[appengine-java] Why is it called Google App Engine for Java ?
Hi, this is not Java! The whitelist is ridiculous: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/jrewhitelist.html There is so much missing I don't even know where to start. Is there an issue I can star that extends the whitelist to the full Java6 lib? This is destroying the Java standard and shouldn't be called Java. Every other company that tries to do an implementation of Java and call it Java gets a massive punch from Sun. Why is Google allowed to use Java6 with a whitelist and still call it Java? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Why is it called Google App Engine for Java ?
Well not Java. Android is also not Java. This is the beginning of fragmentation if Appengine is allowed to go down this road. Seemingly Sun struck some deal with Google. I doubt any other company would get the same liberties. Could you give an example of classes in the JRE lib that would be a stability risk and an explanation why that is? I give a simple example that is not possible with this whitelist. We just tried to add an image caption to an image. Loading images is impossible. Doing anything with fonts as well. I have like half a dozen other scenarios where appengine just fails. If you are in the middle of a project and realize that a certain feature is not achievable just drives you crazy. The argument that one should check before using appengine is moot. I checked. Most projects however 'develop' over time and need features nobody could have possibly foreseen. On Nov 27, 7:17 pm, Diana Cruise diana.l.cru...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious which classes you are referring to that are missing and are NOT considered a stability risk running under a shared app server environment. We are developing in Java with this solution so I don't mind the naming...I have yet to need a class not offered, guess I have been lucky :) So, what would you recommend calling it? On Nov 27, 12:04 pm, jago java.j...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, this is not Java! The whitelist is ridiculous:http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/jrewhitelist.html There is so much missing I don't even know where to start. Is there an issue I can star that extends the whitelist to the full Java6 lib? This is destroying the Java standard and shouldn't be called Java. Every other company that tries to do an implementation of Java and call it Java gets a massive punch from Sun. Why is Google allowed to use Java6 with a whitelist and still call it Java? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Why is it called Google App Engine for Java ?
We know use it for 2 month and are finally completely stuck. This means bye-bye appengine and realizing our losses. The Google Web Toolkit is also not called the Google Java Web Toolkit. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/overview.html does not give a peep about a whitelist! They should directly in the paragrah enter a box and write in red: attention, there is a whitelist of usable classes! Be aware of this! Whenever I heard Java before we knew that we dealt with a certain standard. There should be zero mention of the word 'Java' anywhere if it isn't a real Java! What does it mean if they use the Java6 JVM? The Java6 JVM allows multithreading and other things are missing - so not even the JVM claim is true. But the JVM has little to do with the standard 'Java'. What according to Sun deserves the name 'Java'? Answer: Sun is attempting to impose before providing Harmony with Java Compatibility Kit (JCK) technology necessary to demonstrate full Java functionality. Source: http://www.itpro.co.uk/109790/apache-sun-in-java-licensing-clash Does Google Appengine Java pass the JCK? No effing way! So don't call it Java! Call it jAppengine oder AppengineJ. In the end all they support is Java syntax and a couple of classes. On Nov 27, 8:13 pm, Nicolas Melendez nmelen...@getsense.com.ar wrote: i agree. should be called different. call it gJava, googleJava or whatever. bye, NM On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Diana Cruise diana.l.cru...@gmail.comwrote: I'm curious which classes you are referring to that are missing and are NOT considered a stability risk running under a shared app server environment. We are developing in Java with this solution so I don't mind the naming...I have yet to need a class not offered, guess I have been lucky :) So, what would you recommend calling it? On Nov 27, 12:04 pm, jago java.j...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, this is not Java! The whitelist is ridiculous: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/java/jrewhitelist.html There is so much missing I don't even know where to start. Is there an issue I can star that extends the whitelist to the full Java6 lib? This is destroying the Java standard and shouldn't be called Java. Every other company that tries to do an implementation of Java and call it Java gets a massive punch from Sun. Why is Google allowed to use Java6 with a whitelist and still call it Java? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comgoogle-appengine-java%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Why is it called Google App Engine for Java ?
I do not doubt that GAE is also good for big applications. That's not the reason I started this thread. The question is if they should call themselves Java. Even if so if they shouldn't out of pure decency put a big red warning sign at the top of every page telling people about the whitelist. On Nov 27, 9:39 pm, Nicolas Melendez nmelen...@getsense.com.ar wrote: i belive GAE is good for small application. i made one with three forms and it was good. For medium or big applications use your own server and db, and enjoy freedom. maybe in the future will grow up, and will be ok for medium and big. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Re: Why is it called Google App Engine for Java ?
What do you mean with not a problem? On Nov 27, 10:13 pm, ted stockwell emorn...@gmail.com wrote: On Nov 27, 12:17 pm, Diana Cruise diana.l.cru...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious which classes you are referring to that are missing and are NOT considered a stability risk running under a shared app server environment. Well, since you asked, java.lang.Thread is NOT a problem in most shared app server environments. The Google App Engine is 'special' in this regard. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-j...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en.
[appengine-java] Write text on an image..?
Hi, I want the user to fill some text in a textfield and then allow him to hit a 'create' button. The text will written as a title on the top of an image. The image will then be shown in the browser. What I didn't figure out was how to write the text on the image file. Can somebody help me with example code? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine for Java group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine-java+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-java?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
