Re: [Google Maps API For Flash] Re: multiple map engine
Have you looked at mvc 3. This is far superior to anything. You have complete encapsulation of everything. The huge benifit of c# is it is used in programming a desktop app or web app or silverlight. It isn't a one compiler compiles all its a one language fits all compliers. Plus you can use free media servers because it is built in to iis7. Using flash sounds cool but really you look yourself into a corner. The base of asp.net web apps is HTML and mvc specifically uses html5 if you prefer. With flash you have no abstraction between the display method. If you need to switch from flash your done. Mvc uses HTML for display so if you want to switch to PHP you keep your markup and redo logic. Once you get started in MVC you are going to think why did I waste my time. Go to my site and submit a form with your email and ill give you a few tutorials to get started on mvc and Bing maps. Anyone who wants help with any of them can do the same. It will take me a little to add a new page but it will be http://www.vindamedia.com/BingMaps/ On Jan 10, 2012 10:35 AM, artisan micp...@gmail.com wrote: You sound like a smart programmer. Heh - lambda calculus chewed me up and spat me out :). I guess that's what I get for using imperative languages for eons. I would just get rid of the flash Google map and build a interface to use a JavaScript interface to controlled the map. That's one possibility I've thought about. The other is going with OpenScales. Or just ditching it all and doing a rewrite in ASP and C#. I'm really loathe to give up itemrenderers however - there is no other language that I know of that supports this idiom directly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en.
Re: [Google Maps API For Flash] Re: multiple map engine
I am in a similar boat with some clients that utilizing the flash API, I was fortunate enough to tell them they would need to switch to javascript in the future. While it would take some work, I could move to another flash based API within the application. If the client is blaming you for something Google did, I am pretty sure you don't want that client anyways. Also comparing a back-end server language is not the same as a connected online API. If you read through bing's map TOS it reads almost identically to the Google TOS. They can cancel services, they are not liable etc.. etc.. Also in scale of course asp.net would have higher quality support then the flash maps api, in the same way the google javascript API has better support, it's about resources. I am pretty sure if you're using a microsoft product that very few people use, you're not going to get the same quality of support as you would with asp.net. I haven't done any form of bench marking yet, but V3 seems fast. Also here is a link to the article http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/20/technology/microsoft_bing/index.htm It sucks you lost a client, however I would be hesitant of judging Google based just on the flash maps API depreciation. It's a big company, not everyone at it decided they wanted to depreciate the flash maps API. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-maps-api-for-flash/-/o6cTyU-pQR8J. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en.
Re: [Google Maps API For Flash] Re: multiple map engine
I didn't lose any clients. I'm just explaining how the method that they used to depreciate the map was horrific and I am sure it will affect many relationships with clients. You can't blame a client that paid $10,000 to get an application built that only works for a few years before it needs to be redone. After 1 year they should be working on version 2 not starting on a new version 1 again. Or all the people that built Android apps with Google Maps using the Flash API because Google said they were expanding support. Now devolpers have a real expensive text file with AS3 code sitting on their computer. Yes Bing can kill the map at anytime but they are a company that strives on developers. They aren't going to kill something unless it is absolutely useless. IE6 lasted forever and XP is still supported for security updates. I wasn't referring to ASP.NET the framework I was talking about the website asp.net that provides help for ASP.NET and other things like Jquery. But that is my point, Microsoft's business is to create tools for developers. They sell them to both the server company and the programmer. Google wants you to make enough stuff that they can use so the can make money off of it. Microsoft is way more likely to kill something slowly and fairly then Google is. Your point about Bing the search engine still doesn't show Microsoft is a sinking ship. They are spending millions to attract new advertisers and build a search engine. They are expanding their business and it costs money. But again that is my point they are a company that favors developers not a marketing company that uses developers. On Jan 8, 2012 9:10 AM, Jonathan Wagner m...@jonathanwagner.ca wrote: I am in a similar boat with some clients that utilizing the flash API, I was fortunate enough to tell them they would need to switch to javascript in the future. While it would take some work, I could move to another flash based API within the application. If the client is blaming you for something Google did, I am pretty sure you don't want that client anyways. Also comparing a back-end server language is not the same as a connected online API. If you read through bing's map TOS it reads almost identically to the Google TOS. They can cancel services, they are not liable etc.. etc.. Also in scale of course asp.net would have higher quality support then the flash maps api, in the same way the google javascript API has better support, it's about resources. I am pretty sure if you're using a microsoft product that very few people use, you're not going to get the same quality of support as you would with asp.net. I haven't done any form of bench marking yet, but V3 seems fast. Also here is a link to the article http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/20/technology/microsoft_bing/index.htm It sucks you lost a client, however I would be hesitant of judging Google based just on the flash maps API depreciation. It's a big company, not everyone at it decided they wanted to depreciate the flash maps API. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-maps-api-for-flash/-/o6cTyU-pQR8J. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en.
Re: [Google Maps API For Flash] Re: multiple map engine
That's where I'm headed. Hopefully I can repurpose the code to take advantage of some of the hard-won functionality I've built - such as an empirical function that maps a scale derived from the screen coordinates of an arbitrary bounding box to a Google map scale. Or the Gudermannian function that maps a y-axis screen coordinate to the appropriate latitude. sigh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-maps-api-for-flash/-/FiFC4OWqifoJ. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en.
Re: [Google Maps API For Flash] Re: multiple map engine
It uses c# but asp.nets mvc3 is pretty useful. It maybe a good option if your not in a huge hurry. It would take about a week to get a hang of it but it offers more than using flash. You can access your data no matter what type it is(sql xml collections) using the exact same code with the entity framework and it will never go away. On Jan 8, 2012 12:46 PM, artisan micp...@gmail.com wrote: Uh, not if I switch APIs, which is probably where I'm headed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en.
Re: [Google Maps API For Flash] Re: multiple map engine
Considering that the Google API is done I would scrap all of the Google code even if it did work. On Jan 7, 2012 11:07 AM, Richard richardcha...@gmail.com wrote: Legality aside, how could the Map API know if you are tiling snapshots? Cheers On Jan 5, 7:52 am, artisan micp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've developed a dynamic multiple mapping engine using an advanced datagrid and a custom item renderer as the key technology components (see the attachment). My problem is that if I try to dynamically add / remove maps from the datagrid, the gc doesn't keep up and the memory usage grows until the browser hangs. My solution - create a single (invisible) google map instance and swap in overlay images appropriate to each cell in the datagrid and then copy the resultant image into each cell with a call to bitmapdata. To my chagrin, I've discovered that doing something this innocent probably violates the TOS - which, in turn, is probably why I get an empty datagrid when I run this app on the 'net. I need help here, otherwise I'm going to have to scrape every last byte of Google technology out of my code and go with... OpenScales? multimap.jpg 205KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en.
Re: [Google Maps API For Flash] Re: multiple map engine
I understand you are angry about them depreciating the flash api, but 2 years is a long time in technology. I am sure you can find some angry cobalt developers. Also I don't know where this illusion about microsoft comes from, they have dumped tons of projects, want to talk about a sinking ship, their online division is currently bleeding a billion dollars a quarter. In reference to their apis, the google Javascript API has always been under development and predates the flash API significantly. Yes Pamela Fox was exceptional, and she was very unique, but when I talked with her at Google IO even she said, no one uses the flash API when I asked why the flash API wasn't getting styled maps at the same time. This is technology dude, if you think microsoft is any different you're really delusional. You might not be aware of this but Google's flash API was actually acquired from the same guys which gave bing it's first flash support (umapper). Two years is more then enough time for a depreciation period, and who knows there might be a good reason for them to pull it out of depreciation. Whenever you use third party anything there is always the chance that this could happen. I will admit, that I do think the depreciation was brought on about 1-2 years too early, ces't la vie. All my future projects are using the Google Javascript API, I am not really concerned about depreciation of that API, and so far it looks like their quotas will actually be cheaper then bing's. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google Maps API For Flash group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-maps-api-for-flash/-/d9HKpn0tA14J. To post to this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-maps-api-for-flash+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-maps-api-for-flash?hl=en.
