Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu (dapper)
On 07/11/07 11:21, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Hi, thanks to Moritz, you can add line deb http://les-ejk.cz/ubuntu dapper multiverse to your /etc/apt/sources.list in Ubuntu Dapper Drake (6.10) AFAIK, Dapper Drake is 6.06. 6.10 is Edgy Eft. Moritz ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu (dapper)
Moritz Lennert píše v St 07. 11. 2007 v 11:33 +0100: deb http://les-ejk.cz/ubuntu dapper multiverse in Ubuntu Dapper Drake (6.10) AFAIK, Dapper Drake is 6.06. 6.10 is Edgy Eft. Moritz of course, you are right :) sorry for the mess j -- Jachym Cepicky e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://les-ejk.cz GPG: http://www.les-ejk.cz/pgp/jachym_cepicky-gpg.pub signature.asc Description: Toto je digitálně podepsaná část zprávy ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
gary wrote: This is probably a dumb comment, but I assume users should be running the released revision of grass, not the current CVS, so I don't see the need to provide binaries for a moving target. Or does the development team believe users should run the CVS? As Hamish says, it's up to the users whether they want to use a release or the CVS version. The CVS version has the latest features, but is subject to change without notice. It's hard to say which version has fewer bugs; bug fixes will appear in the CVS version before they appear in a release. OTOH, any new bugs will also appear in CVS first. Obviously, it's better for GRASS development if people use the CVS versions. We need all the beta-testers that we can get. It's debatable whether users should be using binaries from CVS. If you're going to use a CVS version, you may as well take advantage of the ability to update it regularly without having to download a completely new binary package each time. OTOH, native Windows and MacOSX support will typically be significantly further advanced in the CVS version compared to the latest release, and building from source on those platforms is probably more problematic than it is on Linux. -- Glynn Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Hi, as English is not my native language, I was not able to find place where in GPL is such requirement. GPL 2.5 section 3. only says something about providing source with binary version OR provide source on request for next 3. years OR this part I was not able fully understand, but it seemed to me, that if I distribute Debian (binary)+add-ons, I have to provide source for add-ons only. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IMHO Darrel needs to keep only GRASS/QGIS source at hand or inside VM image, no download servers et.al. Sorry for disturbia, me do not spik inglis. Maris. 2007/11/5, Glynn Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is that the source code is available from the same place as the binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a different site). If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous. The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue. -- Glynn Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Maris Nartiss wrote: The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is that the source code is available from the same place as the binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a different site). If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous. The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue. as English is not my native language, I was not able to find place where in GPL is such requirement. GPL 2.5 section 3. only says something about providing source with binary version OR provide source on request for next 3. years OR this part I was not able fully understand, but it seemed to me, that if I distribute Debian (binary)+add-ons, I have to provide source for add-ons only. Correct me if I'm wrong, but IMHO Darrel needs to keep only GRASS/QGIS source at hand or inside VM image, no download servers et.al. No. Note that Darrel was talking about providing a VM image, i.e. a complete system including the OS as well as GRASS/QGIS: I have built an Ubuntu/GRASS6.3/QGIS VM for virtual box which I could upload to my website for downloading if anyone is interested? The contents would be roughly similar to an ISO image for a LiveCD, except that it's designed to be used directly rather than as a source from which to install. -- Glynn Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote: Hi All, Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input. On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote: Hi All, Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input. I created grass 6.2.2 packages for Dapper for our student computer lab. I can make them available to you if you still need them (just don't have access to the machine where they are at the moment). Moritz ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Hi, I could add your packages to les-ejk's repository, if you don't might jachym Moritz Lennert píše v Út 06. 11. 2007 v 17:08 +0100: On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote: Hi All, Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input. On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote: Hi All, Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input. I created grass 6.2.2 packages for Dapper for our student computer lab. I can make them available to you if you still need them (just don't have access to the machine where they are at the moment). Moritz ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser -- Jachym Cepicky e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://les-ejk.cz GPG: http://www.les-ejk.cz/pgp/jachym_cepicky-gpg.pub signature.asc Description: Toto je digitálně podepsaná část zprávy ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
RE: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
I am currently running GRASS on Ubuntu 7.04 in a virtual machine using virtual box (also free) running under Vista x64 ultimate- not free :). This is a great way to run GRASS if you want seemless integration with a windows host. They can share directories. I have built an Ubuntu/GRASS6.3/QGIS VM for virtual box which I could upload to my website for downloading if anyone is interested? I'm assuming I can do this legally? Cheers Darrel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patton, Eric Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:47 PM To: M Jones; grassuser@grass.itc.it Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu Hi Matt, I've run Grass on every version of Ubuntu from 5.10 to 7.10, with no problems (other than those attributed to user error ;) ) There are users on this list running Grass on every flavor of *nix, so it all comes down to your own preference. ~ Eric. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of M Jones Sent: Fri 11/2/2007 9:08 PM To: grassuser@grass.itc.it Subject: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu Hi All, Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input. Thanks, Matt ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
RE: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Darrel Maddy wrote: I am currently running GRASS on Ubuntu 7.04 in a virtual machine using virtual box (also free) running under Vista x64 ultimate- not free :). This is a great way to run GRASS if you want seemless integration with a windows host. They can share directories. I have built an Ubuntu/GRASS6.3/QGIS VM for virtual box which I could upload to my website for downloading if anyone is interested? I'm assuming I can do this legally? The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is that the source code is available from the same place as the binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a different site). If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous. The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue. -- Glynn Clements [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
On Nov 5, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Glynn Clements wrote: The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is that the source code is available from the same place as the binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a different site). If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous. I've been a bit lazy about this myself with my OSX binaries. I used to have a GRASS source snapshot download on my site, but it got tiresome, especially now that I update from CVS instead of using the weekly snapshots. Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS site? - William Kyngesburye kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com http://www.kyngchaos.com/ Time is an illusion - lunchtime doubly so. - Ford Prefect ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
RE: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Dear Glynn, The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is that the source code is available from the same place as the binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a different site). If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous. The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue. Thanks for the info - I suspected it might be an issue. I just thought it might be useful, alas it is not to be. I would still recommend the Virtual route though as I have already managed to screw-up one clone but care - I do not! Darrel ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
William Kyngesburye wrote: Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS site? If you have write access to the grass6/ CVS, you also have write access to the web/ dirs. http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/web/grass63/binary/macosx/ remember to do cvs add -kb I need to reread the GPL before commenting further. Hamish __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
On Nov 5, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Hamish wrote: William Kyngesburye wrote: Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS site? If you have write access to the grass6/ CVS, you also have write access to the web/ dirs. http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/web/grass63/binary/macosx/ Ah, right. It's been a while since I worked in the web area. So, using the linux downloads as a sample, it appears that if there is a README.html, the folder contents are shown before the README.html. Though I don't see any binaries in CVS, is that really where I would put them? Or is there a definitive description of how that works? - William Kyngesburye kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com http://www.kyngchaos.com/ Theory of the Universe There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarrely inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. -Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 2nd season intro ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
This is probably a dumb comment, but I assume users should be running the released revision of grass, not the current CVS, so I don't see the need to provide binaries for a moving target. Or does the development team believe users should run the CVS? William Kyngesburye wrote: On Nov 5, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Hamish wrote: William Kyngesburye wrote: Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS site? If you have write access to the grass6/ CVS, you also have write access to the web/ dirs. http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/web/grass63/binary/macosx/ Ah, right. It's been a while since I worked in the web area. So, using the linux downloads as a sample, it appears that if there is a README.html, the folder contents are shown before the README.html. Though I don't see any binaries in CVS, is that really where I would put them? Or is there a definitive description of how that works? - William Kyngesburye kyngchaos*at*kyngchaos*dot*com http://www.kyngchaos.com/ Theory of the Universe There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarrely inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. -Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy 2nd season intro ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Gary wrote: This is probably a dumb comment, but I assume users should be running the released revision of grass, not the current CVS, so I don't see the need to provide binaries for a moving target. Or does the development team believe users should run the CVS? IMO, Users should use the stable branch. Curious users who don't mind bugs and power users who require the latest greatest features are encouraged to try the development branch. The more testing the development branch gets, the fewer bugs it will have when stable users start to use it. Also for new development like the native MS Windows port, some important features are only available in the devel version, so it is the only choice. There is no official recommended version, use what is best for you. Or use a mix of both if you like. As for development branch binaries- The development branch is usually usable for day to day work, so it is a nice service for packagers to provide a snapshot version if they like to. As long as there is a stable version too, it doesn't hurt to have the extra choice. Hamish __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
Re: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Hi Matt, currently on my Ubuntu Distro this GRASS Versions are running: GRASS6.0.2 GRASS6.2 GRASS6.3 GRASS 6.2 and 6.3 are compiled from source. As you can see, GRASS runs on this distro and there's not a proposed Distro. Malte GRASS6 M Jones schrieb: Hi All, Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input. Thanks, Matt ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser ___ grassuser mailing list grassuser@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/grassuser
