[h-cost] 1957 wedding dress price
I found this http://home.att.net/~design-house/vintage_brides/vintage_brides_we_love_3.htm. I also asked my mom (she was married in 1957) her mother made her dress and she could not remember the cost, however she said that maybe cost $20.00 in materials. - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content)
I saw the exhibit in Los Angeles and enjoyed it very much. I hadn't seen previous exhibits, though I've seen the magazine pictures and the gold mask was there. In terms of history and costume (particularly jewelry) it was very nice. I would recommend the effort! Kathy - Original Message From: Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:42:06 PM Subject: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content) On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote: The King Tut exhibit in Philadelphia in mid Sept. Has anyone been to it? I would like to know if it is worth the trip. I was going to see the exhibit in Florida when it was there. A friend told my sister that this tour was not that good. I would like some feedback from someone who has seen it in PA, CA, or FL. Co-workers of mine who went to see it were disappointed, mostly (I gathered) because they hadn't realized beforehand that some of the most spectacular artifacts stayed home this time, such as the famous gold mask. Reading between the lines, though, it sounded pretty interesting to me as long as you go with an open mind and don't assume it's necessarily designed for maximum splash like previous Tut exhibits. (Old armchair Egyptophile speaking here.) OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1957 wedding dress price
I made mine in 1955 and it cost between ten and fifteen dollars. That was complete with hoop and veil. Lalah, Never give up, Never surrender --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: juliana foulare [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [h-cost] 1957 wedding dress price Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:19:35 -0700 (PDT) I found this http://home.att.net/~design-house/vintage_brides/vintage_brides_we_love_3.htm. I also asked my mom (she was married in 1957) her mother made her dress and she could not remember the cost, however she said that maybe cost $20.00 in materials. - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New York City Shopping. Was: Some Comments
Excellent! A wonderful resource. Thanks. - Hope Saragrace Knauf wrote: Here is a link to some information about shopping there: http://www.paulanadelstern.com/fabric/guides/index.htmlhttp://www.paulanadelstern.com/fabric/guides/index.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content)
I also went while it was in L.A., and I saw it as a 20-something (22?) when the exhibit was in San Francisco at the de Young in the 70s. Yes, this tour doesn't have the mask, but it has more, much more than I remember at the first show. It has the ebony throne with insets you've seen all your life while looking at the Tutankhamon books. The chest with the Pharoah in the chariot hunting is there and even more lovely than in the best photograph you've ever seen. It has a leather dog collar, showing the fine work that was done on this everyday object. I was lucky enough to be walking with a man who does leather work and a woman who works with natural dyes. Their input on this little object make it alive. The way the exhibit was set up was very nice; it gave some good history and actually showed a decent map of the whole Valley of the Kings and the Valley of the Queens with the more famous tombs listed. It merged my picture of the Valley and what I had learned together and made more sense. I spent the extra money and rented the audio package offered; imagine my pleasure to hear both Omar Shariff and Dr. Hawass, Head of the Department of Egyptian Antiquitites (or something like that) on this package. This whole exhibit brought tears to my eyes several times - especially the canoptic jar with the lioness lounging on the top with her tongue out and the walking cane with the handle carved as a Nubian slave. I rode to LACMA on a bus with a tour from Costume College, and I actually had to skip the last room and the shop in order to get to the bus at the appointed time, I had spent so much time looking at the objects on display. The exhibit that toured in the 1970s was an exhibit of objects, lovely objects but there was no attempt to put them into perspective of the time when they were in use; they were in display cases under lights under guard with small notes saying what they were, when given to the collection, etc., the ususal stuff in a museum. This current exhibit really explains them to those people who haven't been, as Chris said, an armchair Egyptophile for 40 years as I have. I'm sure this is also a process of change from what a museum was in 1970-something to now. Also, as a tour it has been underwritten by companies who have put big bucks into the display of these gorgeous objects. SO, the bottom line? Yeah, I think it would be worth it to see the exhibit. If you've ever read any book about Tutankhamon and seen any pictures, you can almost guarantee that you'll see it in the exhibit -- and things you've never seen before. Except the mask. LynnD On 8/22/07, Gytha Stonegrinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the exhibit in Los Angeles and enjoyed it very much. I hadn't seen previous exhibits, though I've seen the magazine pictures and the gold mask was there. In terms of history and costume (particularly jewelry) it was very nice. I would recommend the effort! Kathy - Original Message From: Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:42:06 PM Subject: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content) On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote: The King Tut exhibit in Philadelphia in mid Sept. Has anyone been to it? I would like to know if it is worth the trip. I was going to see the exhibit in Florida when it was there. A friend told my sister that this tour was not that good. I would like some feedback from someone who has seen it in PA, CA, or FL. Co-workers of mine who went to see it were disappointed, mostly (I gathered) because they hadn't realized beforehand that some of the most spectacular artifacts stayed home this time, such as the famous gold mask. Reading between the lines, though, it sounded pretty interesting to me as long as you go with an open mind and don't assume it's necessarily designed for maximum splash like previous Tut exhibits. (Old armchair Egyptophile speaking here.) OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Walmart cloth...good news/bad news...
The little one in Dade City, Florida is keeping theirs. Good thing too, it's 50 miles to the closest JoAnns! However, many others in the state closed their out. ** I was in our Norfolk, Va. Walmart last week, and also noticed that the $1.00 bolt table was restocked. I found my favorite sales lady and she said that indeed, they were keeping their fabric department and were replacing the racks that had been removed! YIPPPE! She said that everything was planned to go back to the way it used to be. -- ** Aspasia Moonwind ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: King Tut Exhibit
On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote: The King Tut exhibit in Philadelphia in mid Sept. Has anyone been to it? I would like to know if it is worth the trip. I was going to see the exhibit in Florida when it was there. A friend told my sister that this tour was not that good. I would like some feedback from someone who has seen it in PA, CA, or FL. Co-workers of mine who went to see it were disappointed, mostly (I gathered) because they hadn't realized beforehand that some of the most spectacular artifacts stayed home this time, such as the famous gold mask. Reading between the lines, though, it sounded pretty interesting to me as long as you go with an open mind and don't assume it's necessarily designed for maximum splash like previous Tut exhibits. (Old armchair Egyptophile speaking here.) I saw it in Chicago last year, and I agree - a lot of the best stuff is still in Egypt, including Tut's death mask. However, they had a ton of cool things from a wide variety of tombs. The exhibit wasn't all just King Tut - it actually covered more of the family situation leading up to the reign of King Tut, as well as his own time. Do keep an open mind, though, particularly in regards to the parts about how Tut restored the old religion after he gained the throne. Remember that he was only 9 or 10 years old at the time, so to my mind it's rather unlikely that he was doing anything without the guidance/influence/control of his advisors! -Martha ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: King Tut Exhibit
Seconding what Martha said - a lot of the more famous items did stay home (I'm still irked that the death mask is used in the promotional material, but is not included in the exhibit), but a lot of the items included are those that seldom leave Egypt and are in what in my untutored mind is an astoundingly good state of preservation, especially the furniture. The exhibit also provides a broader context of Tut's reign, including artifacts from his predecessors (I especially enjoyed some of Akhenaten's artifacts that I'd only seen in books before). I recommend going, if only to relive some of the nostalgia for the glitzier 1970s touring exhibit (which I saw when I was 4 and still remember parts of). Obligatory textile/costume content: there is a statue that contains in it's varnish the imprint of whatever textile (linen, I think) that it was veiled with at the time of burial. Allison T. On 8/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 1 Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:26:46 -0400 From: Martha Oser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Re: King Tut Exhibit To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote: The King Tut exhibit in Philadelphia in mid Sept. Has anyone been to it? I would like to know if it is worth the trip. I was going to see the exhibit in Florida when it was there. A friend told my sister that this tour was not that good. I would like some feedback from someone who has seen it in PA, CA, or FL. Co-workers of mine who went to see it were disappointed, mostly (I gathered) because they hadn't realized beforehand that some of the most spectacular artifacts stayed home this time, such as the famous gold mask. Reading between the lines, though, it sounded pretty interesting to me as long as you go with an open mind and don't assume it's necessarily designed for maximum splash like previous Tut exhibits. (Old armchair Egyptophile speaking here.) I saw it in Chicago last year, and I agree - a lot of the best stuff is still in Egypt, including Tut's death mask. However, they had a ton of cool things from a wide variety of tombs. The exhibit wasn't all just King Tut - it actually covered more of the family situation leading up to the reign of King Tut, as well as his own time. Do keep an open mind, though, particularly in regards to the parts about how Tut restored the old religion after he gained the throne. Remember that he was only 9 or 10 years old at the time, so to my mind it's rather unlikely that he was doing anything without the guidance/influence/control of his advisors! -Martha -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 6, Issue 391 * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content)
I must have been on the bus with you! Kathy - Original Message From: Lynn Downward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:04:10 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content) I also went while it was in L.A., and I saw it as a 20-something (22?) when the exhibit was in San Francisco at the de Young in the 70s. Yes, this tour doesn't have the mask, but it has more, much more than I remember at the first show. It has the ebony throne with insets you've seen all your life while looking at the Tutankhamon books. The chest with the Pharoah in the chariot hunting is there and even more lovely than in the best photograph you've ever seen. It has a leather dog collar, showing the fine work that was done on this everyday object. I was lucky enough to be walking with a man who does leather work and a woman who works with natural dyes. Their input on this little object make it alive. The way the exhibit was set up was very nice; it gave some good history and actually showed a decent map of the whole Valley of the Kings and the Valley of the Queens with the more famous tombs listed. It merged my picture of the Valley and what I had learned together and made more sense. I spent the extra money and rented the audio package offered; imagine my pleasure to hear both Omar Shariff and Dr. Hawass, Head of the Department of Egyptian Antiquitites (or something like that) on this package. This whole exhibit brought tears to my eyes several times - especially the canoptic jar with the lioness lounging on the top with her tongue out and the walking cane with the handle carved as a Nubian slave. I rode to LACMA on a bus with a tour from Costume College, and I actually had to skip the last room and the shop in order to get to the bus at the appointed time, I had spent so much time looking at the objects on display. The exhibit that toured in the 1970s was an exhibit of objects, lovely objects but there was no attempt to put them into perspective of the time when they were in use; they were in display cases under lights under guard with small notes saying what they were, when given to the collection, etc., the ususal stuff in a museum. This current exhibit really explains them to those people who haven't been, as Chris said, an armchair Egyptophile for 40 years as I have. I'm sure this is also a process of change from what a museum was in 1970-something to now. Also, as a tour it has been underwritten by companies who have put big bucks into the display of these gorgeous objects. SO, the bottom line? Yeah, I think it would be worth it to see the exhibit. If you've ever read any book about Tutankhamon and seen any pictures, you can almost guarantee that you'll see it in the exhibit -- and things you've never seen before. Except the mask. LynnD On 8/22/07, Gytha Stonegrinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the exhibit in Los Angeles and enjoyed it very much. I hadn't seen previous exhibits, though I've seen the magazine pictures and the gold mask was there. In terms of history and costume (particularly jewelry) it was very nice. I would recommend the effort! Kathy - Original Message From: Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:42:06 PM Subject: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content) On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote: The King Tut exhibit in Philadelphia in mid Sept. Has anyone been to it? I would like to know if it is worth the trip. I was going to see the exhibit in Florida when it was there. A friend told my sister that this tour was not that good. I would like some feedback from someone who has seen it in PA, CA, or FL. Co-workers of mine who went to see it were disappointed, mostly (I gathered) because they hadn't realized beforehand that some of the most spectacular artifacts stayed home this time, such as the famous gold mask. Reading between the lines, though, it sounded pretty interesting to me as long as you go with an open mind and don't assume it's necessarily designed for maximum splash like previous Tut exhibits. (Old armchair Egyptophile speaking here.) OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mailp=graduation+giftscs=bz ___ h-costume
Re: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content)
Must be! I was the person running to the bus like a crazy person, wishing I looked less like a woman who is old enough to remember the exhibit at the de Young and more like Indiana Jones running for the plane. Thank goodness Annie, in charge of the tour, and I are old friends and I knew she'd wait for me. Lynn On 8/22/07, Gytha Stonegrinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must have been on the bus with you! Kathy - Original Message From: Lynn Downward [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:04:10 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content) I also went while it was in L.A., and I saw it as a 20-something (22?) when the exhibit was in San Francisco at the de Young in the 70s. Yes, this tour doesn't have the mask, but it has more, much more than I remember at the first show. It has the ebony throne with insets you've seen all your life while looking at the Tutankhamon books. The chest with the Pharoah in the chariot hunting is there and even more lovely than in the best photograph you've ever seen. It has a leather dog collar, showing the fine work that was done on this everyday object. I was lucky enough to be walking with a man who does leather work and a woman who works with natural dyes. Their input on this little object make it alive. The way the exhibit was set up was very nice; it gave some good history and actually showed a decent map of the whole Valley of the Kings and the Valley of the Queens with the more famous tombs listed. It merged my picture of the Valley and what I had learned together and made more sense. I spent the extra money and rented the audio package offered; imagine my pleasure to hear both Omar Shariff and Dr. Hawass, Head of the Department of Egyptian Antiquitites (or something like that) on this package. This whole exhibit brought tears to my eyes several times - especially the canoptic jar with the lioness lounging on the top with her tongue out and the walking cane with the handle carved as a Nubian slave. I rode to LACMA on a bus with a tour from Costume College, and I actually had to skip the last room and the shop in order to get to the bus at the appointed time, I had spent so much time looking at the objects on display. The exhibit that toured in the 1970s was an exhibit of objects, lovely objects but there was no attempt to put them into perspective of the time when they were in use; they were in display cases under lights under guard with small notes saying what they were, when given to the collection, etc., the ususal stuff in a museum. This current exhibit really explains them to those people who haven't been, as Chris said, an armchair Egyptophile for 40 years as I have. I'm sure this is also a process of change from what a museum was in 1970-something to now. Also, as a tour it has been underwritten by companies who have put big bucks into the display of these gorgeous objects. SO, the bottom line? Yeah, I think it would be worth it to see the exhibit. If you've ever read any book about Tutankhamon and seen any pictures, you can almost guarantee that you'll see it in the exhibit -- and things you've never seen before. Except the mask. LynnD On 8/22/07, Gytha Stonegrinder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the exhibit in Los Angeles and enjoyed it very much. I hadn't seen previous exhibits, though I've seen the magazine pictures and the gold mask was there. In terms of history and costume (particularly jewelry) it was very nice. I would recommend the effort! Kathy - Original Message From: Chris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 10:42:06 PM Subject: [h-cost] King Tut exhibit (WAS: More Comments: Costume Content) On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Penny Ladnier wrote: The King Tut exhibit in Philadelphia in mid Sept. Has anyone been to it? I would like to know if it is worth the trip. I was going to see the exhibit in Florida when it was there. A friend told my sister that this tour was not that good. I would like some feedback from someone who has seen it in PA, CA, or FL. Co-workers of mine who went to see it were disappointed, mostly (I gathered) because they hadn't realized beforehand that some of the most spectacular artifacts stayed home this time, such as the famous gold mask. Reading between the lines, though, it sounded pretty interesting to me as long as you go with an open mind and don't assume it's necessarily designed for maximum splash like previous Tut exhibits. (Old armchair Egyptophile speaking here.) OChris Laning [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Davis, California + http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com
RE: [h-cost] Walmart cloth...good news/bad news...
There are (and I don't know why) 3 super Walmarts in our little ol' College town. The oldest is keeping thier's for a while the other ones are keeping the bare minimum. De -Original Message- The little one in Dade City, Florida is keeping theirs. Good thing too, it's 50 miles to the closest JoAnns! However, many others in the state closed their out. ** I was in our Norfolk, Va. Walmart last week, and also noticed that the $1.00 bolt table was restocked. I found my favorite sales lady and she said that indeed, they were keeping their fabric department and were replacing the racks that had been removed! YIPPPE! She said that everything was planned to go back to the way it used to be. -- ** Aspasia Moonwind ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Prices in 1957
Try looking at the department store ads in the microfilm of your local newspaper for '57. I'd start in April or May. If you're lucky, there will have been a bridal shop advertising, as well. Or your library might have hung on to Vogue, or Harper's Bazaar. I can't recall whether Seventeen was pubbing in '57. I'm home sick, or I'd check. There were lots of fashion ads in the New York Times, if your library has that. It is a rare library that did this, but ask if they have a catalog collection. No, not the library catalog, grin Sears, or Montgomery Ward, etc. pause Ah, I found a source. Yes, Seventeen existed in 1957. Mary Piero Carey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] 1955 wedding gown price
I just got off the phone with Mom, who got married in Nov 1955. Her gown cost about $200. Floor length with short train, 3 tiers of lace, lace bodice sleeves. One of the Chantilly floral patterns, but I don't think it was true Chantilly from France. Utterly gorgeous, and it took me _days_ to iron it to display at their 50th anniversary party. Anyhow, going by that, $200 got you a real wow of a wedding dress in the midwest in the mid 50s. Mary Piero Carey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Costuming patterns soon?
With the Fall-Winter release of Elizabeth I: The Golden Age and The Other Boleyn Girl--well, okay the costuming isn't accurate and the headdresses for the women in OBG are worse(way, way too small, like they are Tudor headbands or something)than the saucer French hoods in Anne of the Thousand Days--(and that was 1968!)are pattern companies like Simplicity, McCalls, or Butterick planning their own versions/uhm ripoffs? I can appreciate the kind of out-there legend/fantasy of what I've seen of Elizabeth I's garb for The Golden Age, but The Other Boleyn Girl looks totally off--fabric and the aforementioned headbandy excuses for gable and French hoods. I know we have to see the actors' faces, but most actors now like to look more accurate in historic films and TV. Of course The Other Boleyn Girl has Mary younger than Anne, kind of playing Gennifer Flowers to Henry VIII's Bill Clinton and Anne as a more knowing and plotting Monica Lewinsky. Cindy Abel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of otsisto Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:12 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: RE: [h-cost] Walmart cloth...good news/bad news... There are (and I don't know why) 3 super Walmarts in our little ol' College town. The oldest is keeping thier's for a while the other ones are keeping the bare minimum. De -Original Message- The little one in Dade City, Florida is keeping theirs. Good thing too, it's 50 miles to the closest JoAnns! However, many others in the state closed their out. ** I was in our Norfolk, Va. Walmart last week, and also noticed that the $1.00 bolt table was restocked. I found my favorite sales lady and she said that indeed, they were keeping their fabric department and were replacing the racks that had been removed! YIPPPE! She said that everything was planned to go back to the way it used to be. -- ** Aspasia Moonwind ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
