Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
Yikes! My apologies for not editing the previous 2 posts. I forgot that this particular e-mail client renders links as spelled out URLs when one chooses send as text. Here I didn't want to complicate member e-mailboxes by sending as HTML and I ended up cluttering the messages with URLs. Ah well... - Hope ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: Elizabeth Reviews
What you said. It also seems that the director's vision was NOT one of historical reality, either in costume or content: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/05/AR2007100500694.html I am hoping that the acting will be good, at least! Allison T. On 10/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:14:26 -0500 From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Hope Greenberg wrote: Judging by the picture that accompanies the article (a heavy purple moire gown cut beautifully but lacking any decoration), the reviewer is spot-on. The costumes are certainly fabulous. Historically accuratewell...what do we expect?? I expect some escapist fantasy and some pretty costumes, historical or not, and an evening out with my husband. Same as I'd get from any movie. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] flapper era headband
In the 'teens, the headdress consisting of a band worn across the forehead was called a headache band, the popularity of which is attributed to Irene Castle. Katy On 10/12/07, Charlene Charette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm asking this for someone on another list. Is there a specific term for the flapper era headband (I'm assuming she means in the US) other than headband? TIA, --Charlene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] flapper era headband
I'm asking this for someone on another list. Is there a specific term for the flapper era headband (I'm assuming she means in the US) other than headband? TIA, --Charlene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
Hope Greenberg wrote: Judging by the picture that accompanies the article (a heavy purple moire gown cut beautifully but lacking any decoration), the reviewer is spot-on. The costumes are certainly fabulous. Historically accuratewell...what do we expect?? I expect some escapist fantasy and some pretty costumes, historical or not, and an evening out with my husband. Same as I'd get from any movie. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
Desson Thomson of the Washington Post has even more to say about the use of costumes in 'Elizabeth': Just in time for Halloween, Elizabeth: The Golden Age is here to tell us that evoking England http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/United+Kingdom?tid=informline's greatest queen is just a matter of finding the right gown, ruffled collar and frizzy wig. That seems to be the only purpose of this much-anticipated follow-up to 1998's Elizabeth, which thrilled audiences with its spirited embrace of history and the introduction of a fiery newcomer named Cate Blanchett http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Cate+Blanchett?tid=informline . Unfortunately, director Shekhar Kapur http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Shekhar+Kapur?tid=informline has doffed that sensual primacy for a bloated costume opera, in which the characters are essentially dress-up dolls, and Elizabeth has evolved from our favorite royal ingenue to a lifeless, chalk-faced runway diva. Complete, and scathing, review at: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/11/AR2007101102296.html?wpisrc=newsletterwpisrc=newsletterwpisrc=newsletter - Hope --- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Academic Computing, U of Vermont ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1830s mens' patterns
On Oct 11, 2007, at 11:11 AM, Barbara -_- M aren wrote: 1. Hill and Bucknell, The Evolution of Fashion, Pub. B.T.Batsford. I would recommend that you do not use this book for patterns. Not only are the patterns sketchy, they're sometimes completely wrong. You'll need FAR more and better information than you can get from this book to make men's clothing from the 19th century. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] flapper era headband
Fillet, isn't it? ~ M. == ~ Twinkle, dammit! ~ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] To the lady who had the idea about the fleas and the thong
I was just thinking: If your ex is using your joint credit card, it could be a legal process to untangle. What if you reported it stolen, so he can't use it, and apply for another card under your own name? Fran ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
Just saw Manohla Dargis's review of 'Elizabeth: The Golden Age' in the New York Times. Here's a sample: A kitsch extravaganza aquiver with trembling bosoms, booming guns and wild energy, “Elizabeth: The Golden Age” http://movies.nytimes.com/gst/movies/movie.html?v_id=335198inline=nyt_ttl tells, if more often shouts, the story of the bastard monarch who ruled England with an iron grip and two tightly closed legs. It’s the story of a woman, who, as played by the irresistibly watchable Cate Blanchett http://movies.nytimes.com/person/215038/Cate-Blanchett?inline=nyt-per as David Bowie http://movies.nytimes.com/person/82636/David-Bowie?inline=nyt-per in his Ziggy Stardust period, sublimated her libidinal energies through court intrigue until she found sweet relief by violently bringing the Spanish Empire to its knees. But that’s getting ahead of this story, which begins in 1585 when Queen Elizabeth hit 52, though the film seems to put her closer to 38, Ms. Blanchett’s actual age. The blurring of fact and fancy is, of course, routine with this kind of opulent big-screen production, in which the finer points of history largely take a back seat to personal melodrama and lavish details of production design and costumes. In this regard “The Golden Age” http://movies.nytimes.com/gst/movies/titlelist.html?v_idlist=332151;335198inline=nyt_ttl may set a standard for such an adulterated form: it’s reductive, distorted and deliriously far-fetched, but the gowns are fabulous, the wigs are a sight and Clive Owen http://movies.nytimes.com/person/54491/Clive-Owen?inline=nyt-per makes a dandy Errol Flynn http://movies.nytimes.com/person/90030/Errol-Flynn?inline=nyt-per, even if he’s really meant to be Walter Raleigh, the queen’s favorite smoldering slab of man meat. Remainder at NYTimes (free subscription may be required): http://movies.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/movies/12gold.html?themc=th Judging by the picture that accompanies the article (a heavy purple moire gown cut beautifully but lacking any decoration), the reviewer is spot-on. The costumes are certainly fabulous. Historically accuratewell...what do we expect?? - Hope -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], Academic Computing, U of Vermont ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
On Friday 12 October 2007, Hope Greenberg wrote: [snip] Judging by the picture that accompanies the article (a heavy purple moire gown cut beautifully but lacking any decoration), the reviewer is spot-on. The costumes are certainly fabulous. Historically accuratewell...what do we expect?? Not much. Well, I don't. I saw the first movie, and the costumes ranged from Ren Faire close to What were they thinking! in terms of accuracy. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information available.-- Gregory Benford ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Re: To the lady who had the idea about the fleas and the thong
Actually, I do have one in my own name. I had it long before I had him. I had sterling, well established credit when I met him. It's dubious at best now. So I have taken him off every account I can legally yank his name from. Around here, basics like phone and cable are very expensive start up costs if you have bad credit and no recent history with the company. I had thought about reporting his card stolen, but that would yank my card with it, I would believe- it would freeze the entire account. I could be wrong. But, that is also playing dirty pool. Since I have no official, gainful employment that a bank can confirm, I have no money of my own so I need to keep every option open to me until that circumstance changes. I might be getting underwear revenge, but I could end up shooting myself in the foot in the long run. Besides, the bills come to me, I back track the purchases, and mount up even more proof that he is having an affair with someone who he keeps trying to tell me is just a friend. heh. Not anymore. Playing my cards as carefully as my vengeful urges allow me, Kathy. Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lions head erased gules. It’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. Who you are is contained inside, and no one can change that. They can only assist you in denying who you are, but not indelibly reshape you to their own image. I was just thinking: If your ex is using your joint credit card, it could be a legal process to untangle. What if you reported it stolen, so he can't use it, and apply for another card under your own name? Fran Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:03:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the story of the bastard monarch * It was my impression the Ann and Henry were actually married when Liz was conceived, and that cutting someone's head off for supposed adultery is different from an annulment. Of course in this film anything's possible. I suppose there'll be some females in outrageous full armor like that last one ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
I think the question of her illegitimacy has to do with the fact that he could have still been legally married to Katherine of Aragon when he married Anne. When the Pope wouldn't declare the marriage void, he took over the English church and declared it void himself. Many didn't see that as a valid annulment. And, as I recall, she was pregnant with Elizabeth when they married, but that doesn't make her a bastard as long as they were married by the time she was born. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:03:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the story of the bastard monarch * It was my impression the Ann and Henry were actually married when Liz was conceived, and that cutting someone's head off for supposed adultery is different from an annulment. Of course in this film anything's possible. I suppose there'll be some females in outrageous full armor like that last one ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Who licenses or acts as an agent for textile designs
At 12:52 AM 10/9/2007, you wrote: Personally, I want the butterfly design on a velvet cape (a real shaped cape, not as shown; for which the design would probably have to be re-shaped) as an antique gold butterfly on a warm brown background, maybe with some beaded accents. Fran Wow, those are incredibly beautiful! Dianne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
In the image I saw, it almost looked like it is a shot fabric with what could be black and blue... definitely black. You can see that in the skirt. But... it probably IS a rather later color of purple based on the rest of the costuming in the movie. But... it won't matter. I am sure I will see it and love it. I am always entertained by costume dramas and I adore Cate Blanchett. Jean Waddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first thought was, surely that shade of purple wasn't invented until the 19th century? JEan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:03:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the story of the bastard monarch * It was my impression the Ann and Henry were actually married when Liz was conceived, and that cutting someone's head off for supposed adultery is different from an annulment. She was illegitimised by Act of Parliament (along with Mary) when Henry married Jane Seymour, to make sure any children he had with Jane would take precedence, even if it hadn't been a boy. But that was repealed later, I can't remember when but she would have done it when she came to the throne herself, if it hadn't been done before. Judging by the picture that accompanies the article (a heavy purple moire gown cut beautifully but lacking any decoration)... My first thought was, surely that shade of purple wasn't invented until the 19th century? JEan ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth reviews
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/12/2007 9:03:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the story of the bastard monarch * It was my impression the Ann and Henry were actually married when Liz was conceived, and that cutting someone's head off for supposed adultery is different from an annulment. The exact date of the marriage of Anne Boleyn to Henry VIII is not known-- it was some time during late 1532 or January, 1533. Elizabeth was born in early September, so it's not possible to know with certainty whether she was conceived just before or just after the marriage took place. Her parents were definitely married when she was born, though, which is what matters in terms of legitimacy. However, before Anne lost her head, her marriage to the King was annulled on the grounds of the consanguinuity of a previous sexual relationship between Henry and Anne's sister Mary, for which no dispensation had been granted (or sought, for that matter). Elizabeth was declared a bastard. -- Adele de Maisieres - Habeo metrum - musicamque, hominem meam. Expectat alium quid? -Georgeus Gershwinus - ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
