Re: [h-cost] 1920's headwear

2008-07-29 Thread Shane Sheridan Chabot

Evening formal wear for preference. :0)

S



From: Katy Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:08:56 -0400

Dear Sheridan,

Are you looking for pictures of fancy dress as in costumes for costume
parties or as in evening formal wear?

Katy

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Shane Sheridan Chabot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!

 I have been trying to figure out how to search for pictures of 1920's 
ladies
 in fancy dress and was wondering if anyone here had a favorite source 
for

 pictures.

 I'm specifically looking for pictures that have women wearing headbands 
or

 tiara type headdress.

 You are all such a great resource for my varied oddball projects, thanks
 again! :0)


 Sheridan P


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Re: [h-cost] 1920's headwear

2008-07-29 Thread Shane Sheridan Chabot


These are wonderful!

I had stumbled on this site in the past, but that was at least one broken 
computer ago. Thanks!


S



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Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 16:27:04 -0500

http://www.antiquedress.com/item6279.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item6488.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item6336.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item6348.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item6280.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item3451.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item535.htm
http://www.antiquedress.com/item535.htm

Hope this helps
De

-Original Message-

Hello!

I have been trying to figure out how to search for pictures of 1920's 
ladies

in fancy dress and was wondering if anyone here had a favorite source for
pictures.

I'm specifically looking for pictures that have women wearing headbands or
tiara type headdress.

You are all such a great resource for my varied oddball projects, thanks
again! :0)


Sheridan P



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[h-cost] Silver Fox Fur Repair

2008-07-29 Thread Carletta da Nicolosi
I have recently acquired a Vintage silver fox shoulder wrap that is in need of 
repair.  I was going to use it in its entirety over an outer cloak, but the fur 
stitching is so old, it is disintegrating.  I think if I can repair it before 
it tears any more, it will be okay.  How can I stabilize the ripping and get 
the fur back to where I can sew the lining back to it?  The strips of pelts are 
about 2 in. wide.  If I cannot stop the tearing, then I guess I will just be 
forced to use it as strips of trim which is a different set of questions. ;D
 
Thanks to everyone on this list for your help and ideas!
 
Carletta


  
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Re: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A.

2008-07-29 Thread Maggie
Los Angeles, Robin? Yes yes YES Please! I'll be there--with troops of
friends.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Two items of note for those of you interested in my lectures on medieval
 dress, and are within range of either Ohio or Southern California:

 -- I will be giving a full day of lectures (five in all) in Oxford, Ohio,
 at Miami University, on Saturday, Oct. 11, 2008. The website for
 registration isn't quite ready yet, but I figured some people would
 appreciate advance notice of the date and place for your calendar. My topics
 will be as follows:
1. The Gothic Fitted Dress
2. The Greenland Gored Gown
3. Will the Real Sideless Surcoat Please Stand Up?
4. The 15th Century V-Necked Gown
5. When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume
 Sources

 -- I have been approached for a possible appearance in the Los Angeles
 area, early in 2009. This, too, would be a full day consisting of five
 lectures, similar to the above, though probably with some slight variation
 in the lecture lineup. The organizer would like to get a sense of how much
 interest there is so she can choose a suitable venue. If you think you might
 want to attend, please let her know. You can post here and I'll pass the
 word along, or contact her directly (with a copy to me, please): Kerri, at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --Robin




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Re: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A.

2008-07-29 Thread Ginni Morgan
Drat it!  I can't afford to travel very far.  Even Southern California is 
probably outside my budget for the forseeable future.  Will you be doing 
anything in Northern California in the near future?

Ginni Morgan

 Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/28/08 10:35 PM 
Two items of note for those of you interested in my lectures on medieval 
dress, and are within range of either Ohio or Southern California:

-- I will be giving a full day of lectures (five in all) in Oxford, Ohio, at 
Miami University, on Saturday, Oct. 11, 2008. The website for registration 
isn't quite ready yet, but I figured some people would appreciate advance 
notice of the date and place for your calendar. My topics will be as follows:
1. The Gothic Fitted Dress
2. The Greenland Gored Gown
3. Will the Real Sideless Surcoat Please Stand Up?
4. The 15th Century V-Necked Gown
5. When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources

-- I have been approached for a possible appearance in the Los Angeles area, 
early in 2009. This, too, would be a full day consisting of five lectures, 
similar to the above, though probably with some slight variation in the 
lecture lineup. The organizer would like to get a sense of how much interest 
there is so she can choose a suitable venue. If you think you might want to 
attend, please let her know. You can post here and I'll pass the word along, 
or contact her directly (with a copy to me, please): Kerri, at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

--Robin




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Re: [h-cost] Hose lining

2008-07-29 Thread Cin
I know the book very well.  IMHO, you would be better served by using
a more modern bit of research. Harmand's book is c1928.  It's chief
value is the prolific references to all those wonderful illuminations
in the BNF and the quotations from Jeanne d'Arc trial.  May I suggest
you look thru the London excavations books or Fashions in the Age of
the Black Prince for the detailed answers to your question?  If all
you want is a pattern  working method, the the Medieval Tailor is
more up to date than Jeanne d'Arc and accessible in a language you
read.  This really isnt my period, so I cant answer your question
directly.
Best,
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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Subject: [h-cost] Hose lining
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Hi,

I'm solving a little problem, the lining in joined hose in the 15th
century in general. Was there any - if yes, how did it look, did it
cover the whole hose, how often one could see hose with lining and
hose without - and also was there lining in hose in earlier periods? I
could only find something in Adrien Harmand's book, but my French is
not excellent and I'm not sure whether I understand everything...

If there was a thread on this topic, please point me to it by telling
me the name of the subject:-)
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Re: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A.

2008-07-29 Thread Robin Netherton

Ginni Morgan wrote:

Drat it!  I can't afford to travel very far.  Even Southern California is 
probably outside my budget for the forseeable future.  Will you be doing 
anything in Northern California in the near future?


If someone (or group) wants to bring me in, I'm all for it. It's been years 
since I've been out there. I spoke in San Jose in, hmm, 2003 I think. I know 
there are people in Sacramento and Davis who have talked about it, but I 
haven't heard anything from that quarter for a long time.


--Robin
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Re: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A.

2008-07-29 Thread Ginni Morgan
Hmmm, I'll check into it.

Ginni

 Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/29/08 9:35 AM 
Ginni Morgan wrote:
 Drat it!  I can't afford to travel very far.  Even Southern California is 
 probably outside my budget for the forseeable future.  Will you be doing 
 anything in Northern California in the near future?

If someone (or group) wants to bring me in, I'm all for it. It's been years 
since I've been out there. I spoke in San Jose in, hmm, 2003 I think. I know 
there are people in Sacramento and Davis who have talked about it, but I 
haven't heard anything from that quarter for a long time.

--Robin
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[h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A. (Robin Netherton)

2008-07-29 Thread Christine Shamblin
Looking forward to it!
I've already put it on my calendar.

You will let us know when the registration site for Oxford is up, won't you?

Christine Shamblin


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Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 289

2008-07-29 Thread Cin
 Sheridan P wrote:
 I have been trying to figure out how to search for pictures of 1920's ladies
 in fancy dress and was wondering if anyone here had a favorite source for
 pictures.

If fancy dress means costume or maquerade, I dont have any for the
20s.  If fancy dress means all dolled up for a night of dancing, I
have lots.  I collect pics of dancers, you see.   Where?

Definitely the VA
Library of Congress photo archives .. Look for pictures of dancers US
 Europe (not Asian or you get endless natives in feathers  beads).
Movie stills - Mary Pickford, Rudolf Valentino, early Fred Astaire
Google images -- words involving dances
Fashion plate collections
Sheet music  record collections

 I'm specifically looking for pictures that have women wearing headbands or
 tiara type headdress.

 You are all such a great resource for my varied oddball projects, thanks
 again! :0)


Oddly, I have only one out of 100s.  From my photos  fashion plates
the modern concept of the 20s headband seems radically incorrect.  The
vast majority of fashionable ladies are in cloche hats or unadorned
bobbed hair, with or without the Marcel waves.
VA
1920 Princess Alice of Albany aka Countess Athlone

Let me know if you find some, I'm still hunting, too.

I do find lots of headbands starting with Paul Poiret fashion plates
in the early teens, on Irene Castle and other dancers. All of these
are from pre-WWI photos  sheet music.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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Re: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A. (Robin Netherton)

2008-07-29 Thread Robin Netherton

Christine Shamblin wrote:

Looking forward to it!
I've already put it on my calendar.

You will let us know when the registration site for Oxford is up, won't you?


You bet. I was hoping it would be public by now, but I think the planners all 
went off to Pennsic with it half-done. I can assure you I'll be there, though, 
as they've bought my air ticket already.


--Robin
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Re: [h-cost] 1920's headwear (Shane Sheridan Chabot)

2008-07-29 Thread Cin
(resent with the correct subj line... apologies)
 Sheridan P wrote:
 I have been trying to figure out how to search for pictures of 1920's ladies
 in fancy dress and was wondering if anyone here had a favorite source for
 pictures.


If fancy dress means costume or maquerade, I dont have any for the
20s.  If fancy dress means all dolled up for a night of dancing, I
have lots.  I collect pics of dancers, you see.   Where?

Definitely the VA
Library of Congress photo archives .. Look for pictures of dancers US
 Europe (not Asian or you get endless natives in feathers  beads).
Movie stills - Mary Pickford, Rudolf Valentino, early Fred Astaire
Google images -- words involving dances
Fashion plate collections
Sheet music  record collections


 I'm specifically looking for pictures that have women wearing headbands or
 tiara type headdress.

 You are all such a great resource for my varied oddball projects, thanks
 again! :0)



Oddly, I have only one out of 100s.  From my photos  fashion plates
the modern concept of the 20s headband seems radically incorrect.  The
vast majority of fashionable ladies are in cloche hats or unadorned
bobbed hair, with or without the Marcel waves.
VA
1920 Princess Alice of Albany aka Countess Athlone

Let me know if you find some, I'm still hunting, too.

I do find lots of headbands starting with Paul Poiret fashion plates
in the early teens, on Irene Castle and other dancers. All of these
are from pre-WWI photos  sheet music.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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Re: [h-cost] Silver Fox Fur Repair

2008-07-29 Thread Land of Oz
If the fur is going to be a lost cause in the end this is what I would try: 
purchase some very thin pigskin (dress glove weight) and glue it to the hide 
side of the fox. Use a flexible leather glue.


I'm sure that is not the way a conservator would do it, but if you want it 
to be sturdy enough to use it needs a sturdy base.


Otherwise you are faced with restitching all the fur pieces together with 
new thread, I think.


Denise 


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Re: [h-cost] Silver Fox Fur Repair

2008-07-29 Thread lauren . walker
You may end up having to glue it to something anyway -- the skins on my vintage 
mink are so fragile that if I re-stitch it, it just tears again. 

-- Original message -- 
From: Land of Oz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 If the fur is going to be a lost cause in the end this is what I would try: 
 purchase some very thin pigskin (dress glove weight) and glue it to the hide 
 side of the fox. Use a flexible leather glue. 
 
 I'm sure that is not the way a conservator would do it, but if you want it 
 to be sturdy enough to use it needs a sturdy base. 
 
 Otherwise you are faced with restitching all the fur pieces together with 
 new thread, I think. 
 
 Denise 
 
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[h-cost] more fur repair-whitening

2008-07-29 Thread 00217146


While we're on the subject of furs, I have some ermine that has gone  
quite yellow. Is there anything I can do to bring it back to white?


Emma

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Re: [h-cost] 1920's headwear

2008-07-29 Thread Michelle Lee
I will agree with Ms. Barnes.  I just got a cool book  Victorian  
hairstyles: An illustrated History of Hairstyles 1830- 1930. By  
Marian I. Doyle.  They show several pictures of people with the new  
brow band in 1915.  Here is  a link to Theda Bara who wore a lot of  
headbands in her movies in the teens. http://silentladies.com/ 
PBara1.html


My favorite headband wearer is a fictional character:  Ozma of Oz.  
She wears giant  headband as drawn by John R. Neill  http:// 
www.allposters.com/-st/John-R-Neill-Posters_c63916_.htm   these  
images reflect the fashion of the 19teens.  Ozma of Oz was published  
in 1907.


With the introduction of the hair being bobbed and the Marcel wave,  
items in the hair seem to fall out


regards,

michelle lee
owner
Patterns from the Past
www.oldpatterns.com
 
 
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Re: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A.

2008-07-29 Thread Frau Anna Bleucher

Count me in, as well. I'm looking forward to it!

Connie B.

Robin Netherton wrote:
Two items of note for those of you interested in my lectures on 
medieval dress, and are within range of either Ohio or Southern 
California:


-- I will be giving a full day of lectures (five in all) in Oxford, 
Ohio, at Miami University, on Saturday, Oct. 11, 2008. The website for 
registration isn't quite ready yet, but I figured some people would 
appreciate advance notice of the date and place for your calendar. My 
topics will be as follows:

1. The Gothic Fitted Dress
2. The Greenland Gored Gown
3. Will the Real Sideless Surcoat Please Stand Up?
4. The 15th Century V-Necked Gown
5. When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources

-- I have been approached for a possible appearance in the Los Angeles 
area, early in 2009. This, too, would be a full day consisting of five 
lectures, similar to the above, though probably with some slight 
variation in the lecture lineup. The organizer would like to get a 
sense of how much interest there is so she can choose a suitable 
venue. If you think you might want to attend, please let her know. You 
can post here and I'll pass the word along, or contact her directly 
(with a copy to me, please): Kerri, at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


--Robin


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[h-cost] more fur repair-whitening

2008-07-29 Thread Deb Salisbury, the Mantua-Maker
I don't know if this will cure yellowing, but here is some advice from The Complete Dressmaker, published in 1907:  (white fur 
near the end)


 CLEANING FUR

The dark furs, such as seal, mink, sable, etc., respond to mahogany or fine cedar sawdust as a cleanser.  These may be 
purchased from any furrier.  Place the fur on a table with the hairy side up and rub sawdust in by the handful.  Use plenty of 
sawdust and rub vigorously.  Shake the fur over the table to save the sawdust that fall, as it can be used again.  Turn the fur with 
the hair side down on large pillows according to the size of the garment; beat it well with a switch.  Shake the pillows 
occasionally and continue beating until all the sawdust is removed.  White furs are cleaned in a similar fashion with corn meal.


Happy sewing,
  Deb Salisbury
  The Mantua-Maker
  Designer and creator of quality historical sewing patterns
  Renaissance to Victorian
  www.mantua-maker.com


While we're on the subject of furs, I have some ermine that has gone
quite yellow. Is there anything I can do to bring it back to white?



Emma


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Re: [h-cost] Hose lining

2008-07-29 Thread Sunshine . K . Buchler
I haven't done any research on the question myself, but last year at 
Pennsic I attended a class on hosen by Master Emrys Eustace, hight Broom - 
an older version of the handout is available on-line: 
http://www.greydragon.org/library/underwear3.html 

I'd have to check my notes, but I remember him talking about lining - I 
think it was that we have textural references to lining of hose especially 
in Spain, but we don't know what was meant by the lining. Master Broom's 
hypothesis is that it's a rather short lining - that stops above the knee, 
intended to protect against wear as the legs rub together. I think Master 
Broom's e-mail address is in the handout, you might send your question to 
him directly (though he may be at Pennsic, currently...)
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Re: [h-cost] Upcoming lecture plans: Ohio and L.A. (Robin Netherton)

2008-07-29 Thread Ailith
It's up and can be found here:
http://www.greneboke.com/robinnetherton.shtml

Kate
who's planning to go, too!

 Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Christine Shamblin wrote:
  Looking forward to it!
  I've already put it on my calendar.
  
  You will let us know when the registration site for Oxford is up, won't you?
 
 You bet. I was hoping it would be public by now, but I think the planners all 
 went off to Pennsic with it half-done. I can assure you I'll be there, 
 though, 
 as they've bought my air ticket already.
 
 --Robin
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[h-cost] 1920s Bandeau

2008-07-29 Thread Penny Ladnier
I collect in my L'Art et la Mode magazines. These were high fashion 
magazines that I believe were published weekly.  I picked up a handful from 
my collection from 1921-1925 and came up with several styles of bandeau. 
Below is a list of the from the magazines by year.  Fashion designers' names 
and type of bandeau appear after the specific years.


All the examples of bandeau were worn for eveningwear.  Events were parties, 
balls, opera, theatre, and dancing.


I have a larger collection of the magazine from 1905-1919.  I don't have 
time to pull them out.   I do not read French so bare with me.


1921:
Emile: Single strand beads as headband.
Soulie: Same type as above.

1922:
1. Molyneux: Tiara/crown
2. Poiret: scarf headband
3. Tollman: tiara headband
4. Doucet: pearl stranded headband (four strands)
5. Bernard: scarf headband

1923:
1. Lanvin: tiara
2. Worth: A. large taira B. Single strand beads
3. Les Toilettes de Mme Simone Dan-La Courturiere au Theatre de Vaudeville: 
3 models of lg. crown tiaras with a tie at the side of the head.
4. Scavone (not sure if designer or store): A. plain headband B. crown 
headband.
5. Un Dimanche soir au Ritz: Headband crown that wraps around a bun at nape 
of neck.

6. Molyneux: crown/tiara
7. One ad with 7 bandeau for balls from designers Lewis, Marie Crozet, and 
Camille Roger


1924:
1. Soulie: rolled headband with tail with a bow at the end.
2. Madeleine et Madeleine: headband w/o tail.

1925:
1.Tollman (Two bands with a rosette at the side, in same plate two ladies 
with the crown headpiece)

2. Laure (crown like one of Henry VIII's wives)


Penny Ladnier,
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
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