Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?

2013-02-28 Thread annbwass




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From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:11 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?


To me, Seton's headgear appears to be a somewhat wilted version of the  
mob cap, not stiffened like a bonnet, or really much shaped like one.  
Not a poke bonnet because it doesn't hide her face.

 == Marjorie

On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Monica Spence wrote:

 I went to school at Seton Hill College (now Seton Hill University).  
 It is
 run by Mother's Seton's Sisters of Charity, so I've seen the bonnet up
 close. It reminds me of the poke bonnet that became popular in the  
 Romantic
 and Crinoline periods. A bit early, I know, but just a thought that  
 it may
 be an early version of the style.

 Monica Spence

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Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?

2013-02-28 Thread annbwass
Monica, I've seen later versions of the habit, and you are right that the 
headgear did look like a bonnet, which you pointed out wasn't around until 
after Mother Seton's death in 1821. And the dress itself is more in the style 
of the 1840s or 50s. So I think that habit evolved from whatever Mother Seton 
chose, which one assumes would have been more in the style of 1810-20. (Here 
choice COULD, of course, been a style earlier than that, but it couldn't have 
been later!)


As Marjorie points out, this headgear looks like a cap, but I just haven't seen 
references to black caps, even for mourning. That is why I'm asking if it was 
an Italian thing.


Ann Wass



-Original Message-
From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:11 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?


To me, Seton's headgear appears to be a somewhat wilted version of the  
mob cap, not stiffened like a bonnet, or really much shaped like one.  
Not a poke bonnet because it doesn't hide her face.

 == Marjorie

On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Monica Spence wrote:

 I went to school at Seton Hill College (now Seton Hill University).  
 It is
 run by Mother's Seton's Sisters of Charity, so I've seen the bonnet up
 close. It reminds me of the poke bonnet that became popular in the  
 Romantic
 and Crinoline periods. A bit early, I know, but just a thought that  
 it may
 be an early version of the style.

 Monica Spence

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Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?

2013-02-28 Thread annbwass
Sorry for the phantom send. See my next message, please.


Ann Wass



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Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 5:54 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?






-Original Message-
From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com
To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 2:11 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Italian Widow's Dress?


To me, Seton's headgear appears to be a somewhat wilted version of the  
mob cap, not stiffened like a bonnet, or really much shaped like one.  
Not a poke bonnet because it doesn't hide her face.

 == Marjorie

On Feb 27, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Monica Spence wrote:

 I went to school at Seton Hill College (now Seton Hill University).  
 It is
 run by Mother's Seton's Sisters of Charity, so I've seen the bonnet up
 close. It reminds me of the poke bonnet that became popular in the  
 Romantic
 and Crinoline periods. A bit early, I know, but just a thought that  
 it may
 be an early version of the style.

 Monica Spence

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