[h-cost] Fabrics Medieval vs Modern
I have been working on that here in the West Kingdom (Northern California) for many years! I give a class and demonstration on such, So what specific information are you looking for? Like what fibers are still used and what materials? For example, there was a fabric created from Stinging Nettle, we don't currently have this material that I know ofbut you can use silk gauze or organza and soft organza. There are many things when working to find fabrics and fibers that mimic the Medieval look. Then you need to look at your pocket book, because we can get fabrics that are like medieval fabrics but they come at a cost, some as much as $86.00 or more per yard/meter! So What it that you really want? Cilean On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 11:00 AM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-requ...@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-ow...@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of h-costume digest... Today's Topics: 1. Help requested -Medieval Type Fabric Swatch book creation (Angharad ver' Reynulf) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:59:08 -0800 (PST) From: Angharad ver' Reynulf dragonwolf...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Help requested -Medieval Type Fabric Swatch book creation Message-ID: 1362689948.98834.yahoomail...@web164006.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ? *De-Lurking for a bit, yes it's been a long time since I posted here* ? ? ? ? ? I'm looking for help with creating a fabric swatch book geared to help me understand what modern fabrics would be closer in look or feel to recreating historical garments, especially in the medieval period, although not exclusively.? Personally I do most of my costuming in the 14th century, but am also asked to help with everything from early Norse or Rus to Tudor and Elizabethan clothing, and am starting to play with Regency and Victorian outfits.? I have a lot of books, but find it personally challenging to translate the written word and pictures into how the fabric looks and feels in my hand for myself, much less for other people. ? ? ? Since I'm at a point now where I'm wanting to take the time to hand-sew my ensembles, and?even considering hand embroidered badge motifs, I'd like to be a bit more correct on the weights and weaves I'm using for the projects. Especially since I've got a few pieces of wools that are lovely, but I don't know if they are the right weight or style for what I want to do.? For example, picking out what to do with 6 yards of a lovely ultramarine blue angora blend?wool that feels like velvety plush on one side and the other side looks like what I think is a twill (very fine diagonal lines), the 5 yards of a muted blue-green that is lightweight, mostly smooth feeling, with tightly woven threads or the 5 1/2 yards of heavier dark purple (grape) wool that is more like the heavier coat wool. ? I'm willing to pay for swatches and postage-please contact me off-list at celedraug AT gmail DOT com. ? Thank you (and back to lurking), JonnaLyhn Wolfcat aka Angharat verch Reynulf, BAO, An Tir -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 12, Issue 44 * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabrics Medieval vs Modern
Vintage tablecloths made of Chinese grass cloth, made from nettle fibers, are sold on eBay from time to time. It's a cellulose fiber. On the tablecloths, it's like a good grade of handkerchief linen, with that sheen linen gets after ironing, not really like silk. Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com On 3/10/2013 1:34 PM, Simone Bryan wrote: I have been working on that here in the West Kingdom (Northern California) for many years! I give a class and demonstration on such, So what specific information are you looking for? Like what fibers are still used and what materials? For example, there was a fabric created from Stinging Nettle, we don't currently have this material that I know ofbut you can use silk gauze or organza and soft organza. There are many things when working to find fabrics and fibers that mimic the Medieval look. Then you need to look at your pocket book, because we can get fabrics that are like medieval fabrics but they come at a cost, some as much as $86.00 or more per yard/meter! So What it that you really want? Cilean ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabrics Medieval vs Modern
I have seen garments made of nettle in Denmark (recreations of bog clothing). They resembled linen, which is to be expected. Both are bast fibers. Kim http://www.sagnlandet.dk/English.425.0.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Source for buttons?
I am looking for spherical pearl (or pearl-like) buttons--you know, like the kind on long gloves--but in a smoky gray color, not white. Does anyone know of a source? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabrics Medieval vs Modern
I can go into NYC and get medium weight 60 wide pure linen in any color I want for approx $8/yd. I can also go to the local fabric store and find appropriate weave cottons for chemises.. $8.50/yd. One thing I am really looking for is light weight wool for under $10/yd. Even better if it is white or very very light colored. Katheryne On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Simone Bryan cil...@dracolore.com wrote: So what specific information are you looking for? Like what fibers are still used and what materials? So What it that you really want? Cilean From: Angharad ver' Reynulf dragonwolf...@yahoo.com I'm looking for help with creating a fabric swatch book geared to help me understand what modern fabrics would be closer in look or feel to recreating historical garments, especially in the medieval period, although not exclusively.? Personally I do most of my costuming in the 14th century, but am also asked to help with everything from early Norse or Rus to Tudor and Elizabethan clothing, and am starting to play with Regency and Victorian outfits.? I ? JonnaLyhn Wolfcat aka Angharat verch Reynulf, BAO, An Tir ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fabrics Medieval vs Modern
On 03/10/2013 06:35 PM, Purple Kat wrote: I can go into NYC and get medium weight 60 wide pure linen in any color I want for approx $8/yd. I can also go to the local fabric store and find appropriate weave cottons for chemises.. $8.50/yd. One thing I am really looking for is light weight wool for under $10/yd. Even better if it is white or very very light colored. This is a wool gabardine which may not be what you want. But it's $10.75 per yard and pale yellow: http://www.fashionfabricsclub.com/p/12515/Pale-Yellow-Wool-Gabardine -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com (610) 805-9542 Remember that time is money. --Benjamin Franklin \ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Source for buttons?
Get regular white ones, then dye. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:55 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Source for buttons? I am looking for spherical pearl (or pearl-like) buttons--you know, like the kind on long gloves--but in a smoky gray color, not white. Does anyone know of a source? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Source for buttons?
Not sure how many you need, but I found these vintage ones on Etsy. They only have 10 though. (Disclaimer: not affiliated with seller in any way.) http://www.etsy.com/listing/123790859/vintage-grey-half-dome-pearl-buttons Teena From: annbw...@aol.com annbw...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:54 PM Subject: [h-cost] Source for buttons? I am looking for spherical pearl (or pearl-like) buttons--you know, like the kind on long gloves--but in a smoky gray color, not white. Does anyone know of a source? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Source for buttons?
How do you permanently dye pearls? I.E. dye them so that they do not bleed on your fabric and do not fade if you wash your garment? Franchesca Magnus Crepitus Theoria -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:00 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Source for buttons? Get regular white ones, then dye. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:55 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Source for buttons? I am looking for spherical pearl (or pearl-like) buttons--you know, like the kind on long gloves--but in a smoky gray color, not white. Does anyone know of a source? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Source for buttons?
I don't dye them myself, but you can buy dyed pearls from places like Fire Mountain Gems. But if I did try, I'd get the dyes and fixatives from Dharma Trading Co. in Berkeley, CA. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Franchesca Havas Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 6:34 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Source for buttons? How do you permanently dye pearls? I.E. dye them so that they do not bleed on your fabric and do not fade if you wash your garment? Franchesca Magnus Crepitus Theoria -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:00 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Source for buttons? Get regular white ones, then dye. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:55 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Source for buttons? I am looking for spherical pearl (or pearl-like) buttons--you know, like the kind on long gloves--but in a smoky gray color, not white. Does anyone know of a source? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
