Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 12, Issue 65

2013-03-31 Thread . .


Fran,

Thank you for showing your true colors once again.  I'm sure those on this list 
that know exactly who I am are laughing hysterically right now at the idea that 
I somehow don't know what I'm talking about.  We all needed that good belly 
laugh.

After all, it's not like having a garment from every decade since the founding 
of the United States plus some is an antique collection at all.  ;-)  But since 
I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about, according to you, I won't go 
into it until you actually get off this list and stop educating people with 
your 40 years of experience that has so clearly made you an expert on all.  
Since that won't happen, and you have an inability to not comment on something 
and an inescapable need to get the last word please, go ahead.  I'm sure we are 
all waiting while the Easter Eggs are getting dyed.  

Now, on to the historical costuming side and not Fran's over inflated ego, what 
is everyone working on?  Anyone else doing the Historical Fortnightly?

-Isabella
  
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[h-cost] Children's fashions.

2013-03-31 Thread Maggie Koenig
Something I've been pondering. In what era/decade/year/location/something else 
do you consider there to be a development of a separate fashion for children. 
By children I mean potty trained age and over. 

In the early 19th century there seemed to be a separate fashion for boys but 
not girls with the so called skeleton suit.  But by the mid19th century they 
did a brief stint in pants and tunic then it was on to miniature adult styles. 
For girls I start seeing the separate styles by the 1840s and they were 
definitely there by the 1860s. However, I severely lack knowledge of earlier 
periods. Am I just not seeing the kids styles? 

It also strikes me that we are moving back to kids wearing miniature adult 
styles. 

Maggie Koenig

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Re: [h-cost] Children's fashions.

2013-03-31 Thread annbwass
Actually, girls' dresses developed in the last quarter of the late 18th century 
and then, it appears, their mothers copied THEM. The Lady's Magazine in 1789 
observed, All the sex now--from fifteen to fifty upwards (I should rather say 
downwards) appear in their white muslin frocks with broad sashes. Marie 
Antoinette's son appears to have been one of the first to appear in a 
distinctive little boy's suit.


The writings of Enlightenment philosophers, such as John Locke and (that great 
hypocrite) Jean Jacques Rousseau, may have influenced how people dressed their 
children--giving them distinctive styles rather than dressing them as miniature 
adults.


Ann Wass



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From: Maggie Koenig hhalb94...@aol.com
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Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 6:38 am
Subject: [h-cost] Children's fashions.


Something I've been pondering. In what era/decade/year/location/something else 
do you consider there to be a development of a separate fashion for children. 
By 
children I mean potty trained age and over. 

In the early 19th century there seemed to be a separate fashion for boys but 
not 
girls with the so called skeleton suit.  But by the mid19th century they did a 
brief stint in pants and tunic then it was on to miniature adult styles. For 
girls I start seeing the separate styles by the 1840s and they were definitely 
there by the 1860s. However, I severely lack knowledge of earlier periods. Am I 
just not seeing the kids styles? 

It also strikes me that we are moving back to kids wearing miniature adult 
styles. 

Maggie Koenig

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Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 12, Issue 65

2013-03-31 Thread Jill Hadfield


I normally keep out of things like 
this  ..  BUT  you're being really nasty.She has 
her opinions and you have yours -  END IT.  Be an adult.


At 11:19 31/03/2013, you wrote:



Fran,

Thank you for showing your true colors once again.  I'm sure those 
on this list that know exactly who I am are laughing hysterically 
right now at the idea that I somehow don't know what I'm talking 
about.  We all needed that good belly laugh.


After all, it's not like having a garment from every decade since 
the founding of the United States plus some is an antique collection 
at all.  ;-)  But since I clearly have no idea what I'm talking 
about, according to you, I won't go into it until you actually get 
off this list and stop educating people with your 40 years of 
experience that has so clearly made you an expert on all.  Since 
that won't happen, and you have an inability to not comment on 
something and an inescapable need to get the last word please, go 
ahead.  I'm sure we are all waiting while the Easter Eggs are getting dyed.


Now, on to the historical costuming side and not Fran's over 
inflated ego, what is everyone working on?  Anyone else doing the 
Historical Fortnightly?


-Isabella

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[h-cost] repurposing vintage textiles

2013-03-31 Thread Julie
Come on ladies, this has degenerated into a cat fight.  Move on to some far
more interesting topic.

I would have a problem with someone repurposing  wearing something from
400+ years ago.  Those textiles are scarce and I, personally, would rather
see them in a museum  full size pictures shared on the web. But that's me.
There's certainly no law against using them.

However with Victorian and 20th century textiles, I can't get too excited
against repurposing them.  Unless there's something unique about it these
textiles are plentiful. If I were a smaller lady I'd occasionally wear
(carefully and with undergarments) Victorian garments.  I'm not, so I buy
things I like as study pieces. I bought some beautiful Victorian handmade
lace that I intend to put on a blouse I made...but fastened with snaps so it
doesn't get washed with the blouse. I like to display the beautiful
artifacts from the past.  I also collect old needleworking tools  jewelry 
buttons.  In addition I'm learning how to do some of the lost arts like
tatting, bobbin lace, bead knitting and hairwork.  We honor  value the arts
of the past in our own ways.

Julie

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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Cin
I'm woefully under-inspired by my half-completed ragtime ballgown.  So
under-inspired that I have my nose in the Cosimo di Medici book (Moda
Italia #2).
Glad of a change of topic,
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
cinbar...@gmail.com

 At 11:19 31/03/2013, you wrote:

 Now, on to the historical costuming side and not Fran's over inflated ego,
 what is everyone working on?  Anyone else doing the Historical Fortnightly?

 -Isabella
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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Beteena Paradise
I'm finishing up my 18th century stays this weekend and a bum pad. Not very 
exciting, but necessary in order to move on to the pretties!

Teena
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[h-cost] Polyester is the great new fiber

2013-03-31 Thread Lavolta Press

The Wall Street Journal says so!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120430818244003421.html?mod=slideshow_overlay_mod

Fran
Lavolta Press
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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Jacqueline Johnson
Not costuming related I'm afraid, hopefully this summer. This weekend it
was arguing with bra patterns.

J~

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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Lavolta Press
In my lifelong effort to find something that looks pre-1930 to wear when 
that is not in style, Victorian/Edwardian and medieval-inspired 
lagenlook and daytime (watered-down) steampunk.  Also I have really 
gotten into using Japanese sewing pattern books.


Fran
Lavolta Press
Books of historic clothing patterns
www.lavoltapress.com





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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread annbwass
Two Regency era tailcoats--one a linen check, for a June event in Virginia, and 
one navy blue wool, just because every man needs one in his wardrobe.


Want to get started on a red velvet reticule for a reenactment in May. Then to 
finish the accessories for my red and yellow gown--finish the belt, decorate a 
bonnet with the ribbon I bought in England, and make a neck handkerchief--I 
actually do not own a plain white one and have decided I need one.


Would also like to make a nankeen habit for June, but don't know if I'll get 
that far.


Ann Wass


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Sent: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?


I'm woefully under-inspired by my half-completed ragtime ballgown.  So
under-inspired that I have my nose in the Cosimo di Medici book (Moda
Italia #2).
Glad of a change of topic,
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
cinbar...@gmail.com

 At 11:19 31/03/2013, you wrote:

 Now, on to the historical costuming side and not Fran's over inflated ego,
 what is everyone working on?  Anyone else doing the Historical Fortnightly?

 -Isabella
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Re: [h-cost] Polyester is the great new fiber

2013-03-31 Thread annbwass
My new-old Easter dress is polyester (a thrift store purchase), and I have to 
say, I'm glad the pleats in the skirt could be permanently set.


Ann Wass


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Subject: [h-cost] Polyester is the great new fiber


The Wall Street Journal says so!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120430818244003421.html?mod=slideshow_overlay_mod

Fran
Lavolta Press
Books on making historic clothing
www.lavoltapress.com
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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Aylwen Gardiner-Garden
I am finishing off the cuffs on a hand-embroidered frock coat and then
trying to make my too-big 18th century gown fit me for a dance display next
weekend. Wish me luck - I've got an exam on Tuesday night so can't do any
more sewing once I've done these cuffs.
Then I'm back to organising/promoting my overseas historical costume tour
to England in September - have just a few weeks to fill the remaining 5
places.
Cheers,
Aylwen

*Aylwen Gardiner-Garden*
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*Jane Austen Festival Australia, 18-21 April
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*19th Century Retreat at Yarrangabilly Caves House, 22-25 April
2013http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/dance-events/2013
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*Historic Costume  Dance Tour of England, 1-22 September
2013http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/tours
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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Finally finished hemming a neck kerchief for my colonial. That's one  
long hem, but I insisted on doing a hand hem.


 == Marjorie Wilser

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Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW


On Mar 31, 2013, at 2:07 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:

Two Regency era tailcoats--one a linen check, for a June event in  
Virginia, and one navy blue wool, just because every man needs one  
in his wardrobe.



Want to get started on a red velvet reticule for a reenactment in  
May. Then to finish the accessories for my red and yellow gown-- 
finish the belt, decorate a bonnet with the ribbon I bought in  
England, and make a neck handkerchief--I actually do not own a plain  
white one and have decided I need one.


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Re: [h-cost] Polyester is the great new fiber

2013-03-31 Thread Marjorie Wilser
Polyester. Ick. But it's grown up in the world since the bulletproof  
variety, and SOME things in poly are actually decent feeling.


 == Marjorie Wilser

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Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW


On Mar 31, 2013, at 2:29 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote:

My new-old Easter dress is polyester (a thrift store purchase), and  
I have to say, I'm glad the pleats in the skirt could be permanently  
set.



Ann Wass



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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Lavolta Press
I've always done a lot of hand hemming and hand finishing, but lately I 
am having a hard time not hand sewing.  I started hand sewing everything 
when my Viking's straight stitch went wonky. There was a period of two 
or three months where I took it to repair places who did not fix it 
properly. In the meantime I was doing hand sewing exclusively. Then I 
replaced the Viking with my Bernina and furthermore, found a great 
repair place that fixed the Viking like new, meaning I now have two 
sewing machines in great working order. And I'm still wanting to hand 
seam everything. I just got into it.


Fran
Lavolta Press
Books on making historic clothing
www.lavoltapress.com


On 3/31/2013 4:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser wrote:
Finally finished hemming a neck kerchief for my colonial. That's one 
long hem, but I insisted on doing a hand hem.


 == Marjorie Wilser

=:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:=
   http://3toad.blogspot.com/
Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW


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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Kim Baird
2 sewing machines are the minimum number a real sewer need. And Bernina is
cream of the crop!
Kim

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Subject: Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

I've always done a lot of hand hemming and hand finishing, but lately I am
having a hard time not hand sewing.  I started hand sewing everything when
my Viking's straight stitch went wonky. There was a period of two or three
months where I took it to repair places who did not fix it properly. In the
meantime I was doing hand sewing exclusively. Then I replaced the Viking
with my Bernina and furthermore, found a great repair place that fixed the
Viking like new, meaning I now have two sewing machines in great working
order. And I'm still wanting to hand seam everything. I just got into it.

Fran
Lavolta Press

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Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?

2013-03-31 Thread Lavolta Press
I love my Bernina, but the Viking is also pretty good, now that it has 
been restored to like-new condition. For years I thought having two 
machines was unnecessary, but that was when there were more good local 
repair places that could fix a machine in only a few days. I originally 
planned to sell the Viking. But when I discovered the really good repair 
place I finally found was so popular there was a one-month wait, I 
realized I need two machines now.  Even if the Bernina chugs happily 
along for years, having the backup machine makes me feel more secure.


Fran
Books on making historic clothing
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On 3/31/2013 5:32 PM, Kim Baird wrote:

2 sewing machines are the minimum number a real sewer need. And Bernina is
cream of the crop!
Kim




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