Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
I hit their site but the minimum order is killer! $79??? Not me! Thanks! On May 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Aurora Celeste auroracele...@gmail.com wrote: I've had good luck with Hats by Leko: http://www.hatsupply.com On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I’m looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada…. slower and with duty. I’m in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76— their “low” price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson’s Raiments/ AlterYears but can’t find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Depends on the weekend— 2nd Saturday of course I”m up there. Janet doesn’t list brim wire :( I emailed her hoping it’s just the site’s problem. On May 8, 2014, at 6:02 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.alteryears.net/ See you in July? I'm heading to CoCo. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Thanks!! Naturally it’s out of stock. (sigh) ==Marjorie On May 8, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote: Here too! https://www.judithm.com/ On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Aurora Celeste auroracele...@gmail.comwrote: I've had good luck with Hats by Leko: http://www.hatsupply.com On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Not knowing there was such a thing as brim wire, I used florist wire from the craft store. Much cheaper. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:45 PM To: H-costume Subject: [h-cost] Brim wire! I'm looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada.. slower and with duty. I'm in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76- their low price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson's Raiments/ AlterYears but can't find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Tis site has milliner's wire and plastic brim wire... http://www.hatsupply.com/wire.htm On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada slower and with duty. I'm in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76-- their low price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson's Raiments/ AlterYears but can't find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
I use floral wire too, when I need something in a hurry and don't have time to mail order, but I do like millinery wire better. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 4:23 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Not knowing there was such a thing as brim wire, I used florist wire from the craft store. Much cheaper. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:45 PM To: H-costume Subject: [h-cost] Brim wire! I'm looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada.. slower and with duty. I'm in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76- their low price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson's Raiments/ AlterYears but can't find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
I've ordered from Judithm, too! Great service! Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, May 8, 2014 9:11 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Here too! https://www.judithm.com/ On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Aurora Celeste auroracele...@gmail.comwrote: I've had good luck with Hats by Leko: http://www.hatsupply.com On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I’m looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada…. slower and with duty. I’m in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76— their “low” price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson’s Raiments/ AlterYears but can’t find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -Sg- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Thanks, Sharon! I looked at florist wire but decided for the current application it was much too lightweight! On May 9, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Not knowing there was such a thing as brim wire, I used florist wire from the craft store. Much cheaper. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Thanks Kay, their minimum order is $79 or something. . . alas! On May 9, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Tis site has milliner's wire and plastic brim wire... http://www.hatsupply.com/wire.htm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
You can also find wire in different weights at a hardware store. I've also used picture hanging wire. Again, real millinery wire, with the wrapping, is nicer, but in a pinch or a hurry, I've used what I can get locally. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 10:05 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Thanks, Sharon! I looked at florist wire but decided for the current application it was much too lightweight! On May 9, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Not knowing there was such a thing as brim wire, I used florist wire from the craft store. Much cheaper. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Oh, ouch--I see Leko does now have a $79 minimum. Back when I ordered from them, it was around $25. Bummer. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 10:06 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Thanks Kay, their minimum order is $79 or something. . . alas! On May 9, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Tis site has milliner's wire and plastic brim wire... http://www.hatsupply.com/wire.htm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Evidently California Millinery Supply is under new management (I seem to remember a company with that name years ago, but this site says they are new.) Their website is minimal at this point, so I didn't see information about a minimum order. They encourage you to fax, call, or email them. They list wire in several gauges, both black and white, and both 60 yd and 3 yd quantities. http://www.californiamillinery.net/ Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 10:06 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Thanks Kay, their minimum order is $79 or something. . . alas! On May 9, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Tis site has milliner's wire and plastic brim wire... http://www.hatsupply.com/wire.htm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
I didn't realize it was the same site someone else mentioned... Good Luck! I wish Milliner's Supply in Dallas was still in business or Greenberg Hammer--I miss my old suppliers. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Kay, their minimum order is $79 or something. . . alas! On May 9, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Tis site has milliner's wire and plastic brim wire... http://www.hatsupply.com/wire.htm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Try the LA office of Farthingales: http://www.farthingalesla.com/ I don't see it on their site, but they might have it offline. I?m looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada?. slower and with duty. I?m in the US. Happy sewing, Deb Salisbury The Mantua-Maker Quality Historical Sewing Patterns www.mantua-maker.com New: Victorian Bathing and Bathing Suits: The Culture of the Two-Piece Bathing Dress from 1837 – 1901 https://mantua-maker.com/Victorian_Bathing_Book.html Also available: Elephant's Breath London Smoke: Colour in History Fabric a la Romantic Regency: Regency Era Fabric Usage ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
You could always twist 2 or 3 together. S. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:04 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Thanks, Sharon! I looked at florist wire but decided for the current application it was much too lightweight! On May 9, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Not knowing there was such a thing as brim wire, I used florist wire from the craft store. Much cheaper. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Chemise/Shift question
I'm sure sometime has answered this sometime over the years, but I can't seen to find it... In the 1480-1600 period of time, does anyone know how the edges of the cloth, or seams of under-tunics/shifts/shirts/chemises would have been finished? I figure that as they would have been the most often washed garment, something would have been done to help prevent the edges of the cloth from unraveling...but I haven't been able to figure out what, during that period of time. (Me, I either zigzag or whip-stitch the edges usually...but I'm wondering what would have been done *then*) Thanks! -Elisabeth/Liz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question
Liz, The ones I've seen photos of had very small seams turned (and maybe turned again - I can't remember) on each separate piece and stitched with a blanket stitch. Then the two pieces were joined by something that looks like a ladder stitch. I don't know if my stitches would stand up to the stress of the washing... LynnD On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Liz H. imco...@verizon.net wrote: I'm sure sometime has answered this sometime over the years, but I can't seen to find it... In the 1480-1600 period of time, does anyone know how the edges of the cloth, or seams of under-tunics/shifts/shirts/chemises would have been finished? I figure that as they would have been the most often washed garment, something would have been done to help prevent the edges of the cloth from unraveling...but I haven't been able to figure out what, during that period of time. (Me, I either zigzag or whip-stitch the edges usually...but I'm wondering what would have been done *then*) Thanks! -Elisabeth/Liz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question
I think Arnold covered this in Patterns of Fashion, but I could be wrong. I'm at work and all my costume books are packed up anyway. My guess is a small rolled hem on any cut edge. The openwork stitching that attached one piece of cloth to another needs something to anchor it that won't fray apart under strain. It is my understanding that the garments were often taken apart for washing and sunbleaching. Thus each piece would need to be finished. Ginni -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Liz H. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:55 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question I'm sure sometime has answered this sometime over the years, but I can't seen to find it... In the 1480-1600 period of time, does anyone know how the edges of the cloth, or seams of under-tunics/shifts/shirts/chemises would have been finished? I figure that as they would have been the most often washed garment, something would have been done to help prevent the edges of the cloth from unraveling...but I haven't been able to figure out what, during that period of time. (Me, I either zigzag or whip-stitch the edges usually...but I'm wondering what would have been done *then*) Thanks! -Elisabeth/Liz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question
Yes, Janet Arnold's book on shirts and other linen garments would be THE place to look, at least for English styles. Unfortunately my copy is put on loan at the moment. My educated guess is that, since not every smock or shirt is decorative, there are probably some utilitarian types of covered seams in use as well as the decorative types described. You're quite right from what I remember: linen ravels easily enough that IIRC linen seams were nearly always made so that the raw edges were hidden or stabilized. If they aren't stabilized, then seams are the first things to wear out and need repair. -Original Message- From: Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.gov Sent: May 9, 2014 10:18 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question I think Arnold covered this in Patterns of Fashion, but I could be wrong. I'm at work and all my costume books are packed up anyway. My guess is a small rolled hem on any cut edge. The openwork stitching that attached one piece of cloth to another needs something to anchor it that won't fray apart under strain. It is my understanding that the garments were often taken apart for washing and sunbleaching. Thus each piece would need to be finished. Ginni -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Liz H. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:55 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question I'm sure sometime has answered this sometime over the years, but I can't seen to find it... In the 1480-1600 period of time, does anyone know how the edges of the cloth, or seams of under-tunics/shifts/shirts/chemises would have been finished? I figure that as they would have been the most often washed garment, something would have been done to help prevent the edges of the cloth from unraveling...but I haven't been able to figure out what, during that period of time. (Me, I either zigzag or whip-stitch the edges usually...but I'm wondering what would have been done *then*) Thanks! -Elisabeth/Liz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 0 Chris Laning | clan...@igc.org + Davis, California http://paternoster-row.org - http://paternosters.blogspot.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Thanks, Deb! They seem to have everything to do with corset and hoops but no brim wire. It’s an interesting search though :) ==Marjorie On May 9, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Deb Salisbury, Mantua-Maker d...@mantua-maker.com wrote: Try the LA office of Farthingales: http://www.farthingalesla.com/ I don't see it on their site, but they might have it offline. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Brim wire available through HatSupply.com (Sandra Leko), and California Millinery(downtown L.A., on Spring Street) On Friday, May 9, 2014 11:11 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Deb! They seem to have everything to do with corset and hoops but no brim wire. It’s an interesting search though :) ==Marjorie On May 9, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Deb Salisbury, Mantua-Maker d...@mantua-maker.com wrote: Try the LA office of Farthingales: http://www.farthingalesla.com/ I don't see it on their site, but they might have it offline. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 13, Issue 37
I buy from www.judithm.com She has no minimums for wire. Donna Scarfe Fyne Hats by Felicity -Original Message- From: h-costume-request h-costume-requ...@indra.com To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Fri, May 9, 2014 5:50 am Subject: h-costume Digest, Vol 13, Issue 37 Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to h-costume-requ...@mail.indra.com You can reach the person managing the list at h-costume-ow...@mail.indra.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of h-costume digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: 15th Century pleated gown (Wicked Frau) 2. Brim wire! (Marjorie Wilser) 3. Re: Brim wire! (Cin) 4. Re: Brim wire! (Cin) 5. Re: Brim wire! (Aurora Celeste) 6. Re: Brim wire! (Wicked Frau) 7. Re: Brim wire! (annbw...@aol.com) 8. Re: Brim wire! (Marjorie Wilser) 9. Re: Brim wire! (Marjorie Wilser) 10. Re: Brim wire! (Marjorie Wilser) 11. Re: Brim wire! (Sharon Collier) 12. Re: Brim wire! (Katy Bishop) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:28 -0700 From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] 15th Century pleated gown Message-ID: cahpcgnrw7bkxsf6cgvjf6bspnznqpeuysqufdradadgrfth...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I haven't made it, but from looking at it, I think it presumes you have made the doublet first, and are altering the pattern to create the gown. The slashing is on the pattern, not the cloth. I can see where it would be confusing. Sg On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.comwrote: Has anyone here made the 15th century pleated gown using the pattern on page 154 of The Medieval Tailor's Assistant? I'm confused about the slash lines - why does it need cutting and what do you do once its been cut? Many thanks, Aylwen *Aylwen Gardiner-Garden* *Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au * *Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/* ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -Sg- -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 17:45:13 -0700 From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: H-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Brim wire! Message-ID: b073d0af-020e-45c2-84c5-15e0e2ccd...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I?m looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada?. slower and with duty. I?m in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76? their ?low? price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson?s Raiments/ AlterYears but can?t find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 18:02:38 -0700 From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Cc: H-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Message-ID: CAM1W8K70=azejxxn_8faapea_i-vgjy4uxorcoaungepn+o...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.alteryears.net/ See you in July? I'm heading to CoCo. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada slower and with duty. I'm in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76-- their low price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson's Raiments/ AlterYears but can't find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 18:02:38 -0700 From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Cc: H-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Brim wire! Message-ID: CAM1W8K70=azejxxn_8faapea_i-vgjy4uxorcoaungepn+o...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.alteryears.net/ See you in July? I'm heading to CoCo. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta
Re: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question
This what the Tudor Tailor (TT) has to say about shirts/smocks finishing: The fact that shirts and smocks were intended to survive regular washing is evident in the construction of extant examples. The stitches are very regular and tiny, often so small as to be invisible to the naked eye. The strength of the selvedges was exploited in the long seams down the sides which were butted together. Seams made along a cut edge have the raw part carefully folded under and enclosed with another row of stitching. A number of years ago I picked up a man's shirt at a yard sale in Germany. I took it to the Dennita Sewell, the fashion curator at the Phoenix Art Museum with the idea of donating it to the museum (they were very happy to add it to their collection). She said it was probably 19th century, but certainly constructed just like they had been in the 16th and 17th centuries. As stated in the TT the long side seams are butted with an overcast on the inside. The cut portions are sewn and then folded over. The folded over seams are hardly bigger than an 1/8 . There is a lot of entredeux work on the cuffs, and drawn work on the neck opening. The straight top stitching is so tiny and perfect that it is really hard to imagine it was not done by machine, but as the rest of it is clearly hand sewn, I think it is as well. I have yet to actually turn this garment over to the Museum. I intend to photograph it carefully and post pictures before I do give it to them. I will post pictures as soon as I have done this. Saragrace On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Ginni Morgan ginni.mor...@doj.ca.govwrote: I think Arnold covered this in Patterns of Fashion, but I could be wrong. I'm at work and all my costume books are packed up anyway. My guess is a small rolled hem on any cut edge. The openwork stitching that attached one piece of cloth to another needs something to anchor it that won't fray apart under strain. It is my understanding that the garments were often taken apart for washing and sunbleaching. Thus each piece would need to be finished. Ginni -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Liz H. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:55 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Chemise/Shift question I'm sure sometime has answered this sometime over the years, but I can't seen to find it... In the 1480-1600 period of time, does anyone know how the edges of the cloth, or seams of under-tunics/shifts/shirts/chemises would have been finished? I figure that as they would have been the most often washed garment, something would have been done to help prevent the edges of the cloth from unraveling...but I haven't been able to figure out what, during that period of time. (Me, I either zigzag or whip-stitch the edges usually...but I'm wondering what would have been done *then*) Thanks! -Elisabeth/Liz ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -Sg- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
