Re: [h-cost] The White Queen
The White Queen would have you believe that ALL the men at court, along with about 90% of the women, went around bareheaded all the time. WTF?? On 8/11/2013 11:00 AM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 15:34:07 -0700 From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Review of The White Queen Message-ID: 5206bfdf.3060...@lavoltapress.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Very amusing review of The White Queen, including the costumes: http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/White-Queen-review-Royally-entertaining-romp-4717571.php Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The White Queen
Headwear can be difficult to light, or at least the face under it ... but then Gone With the Wind'd have you believe someone from the 1930s had a time machine and took stuff back, -C. - Original Message - From: Historical Costume To: Cc: Sent:Sun, 11 Aug 2013 13:17:59 -0700 Subject:Re: [h-cost] The White Queen The White Queen would have you believe that ALL the men at court, along with about 90% of the women, went around bareheaded all the time. WTF?? On 8/11/2013 11:00 AM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 15:34:07 -0700 From: Lavolta Press To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Review of The White Queen Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Very amusing review of The White Queen, including the costumes: http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/White-Queen-review-Royally-entertaining-romp-4717571.php Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com www.facebook.com/LavoltaPress ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] The White Queen
As the list seems very quiet at the moment, I thought I'd ask what UK members who know about the Middle Ages think of the costumes in The White Queen? (It's a series based on 3 of Philippa Gregory's novels currently running on the BBC.) I know little about mediaeval costume, but my impression is that they have fallen into the same trap as the designers for The Tudors - the women show too much hair and not enough linen. Only a few older women wear headdresses. I assume this is supposed to make the leading ladies more attractive to modern eyes. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The White Queen
Kate, It's funny. . . you could say the same thing about modern productions of Victorian and Georgian fashions. Bareheaded women (and gloveless, too! the horror!) running around outside, neither properly coifed nor hatted. With so much emphasis on getting the clothing right, why not the hair/hat styles!! == Marjorie Wilser (hoping very much that we get The White Queen over here. . . someday) =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Kate Bunting wrote: As the list seems very quiet at the moment, I thought I'd ask what UK members who know about the Middle Ages think of the costumes in The White Queen? (It's a series based on 3 of Philippa Gregory's novels currently running on the BBC.) I know little about mediaeval costume, but my impression is that they have fallen into the same trap as the designers for The Tudors - the women show too much hair and not enough linen. Only a few older women wear headdresses. I assume this is supposed to make the leading ladies more attractive to modern eyes. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The White Queen
This is a problem even with re-enactors. In my opinion, nothing spoils the look of an outfit as quickly as modern hair. Renaissance hair was parted in the middle. No bangs. If you have bangs---use hairspray! Sure it doesn't look like youthat's the point! Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Marjorie Wilser Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:05 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] The White Queen Kate, It's funny. . . you could say the same thing about modern productions of Victorian and Georgian fashions. Bareheaded women (and gloveless, too! the horror!) running around outside, neither properly coifed nor hatted. With so much emphasis on getting the clothing right, why not the hair/hat styles!! == Marjorie Wilser (hoping very much that we get The White Queen over here. . . someday) =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Kate Bunting wrote: As the list seems very quiet at the moment, I thought I'd ask what UK members who know about the Middle Ages think of the costumes in The White Queen? (It's a series based on 3 of Philippa Gregory's novels currently running on the BBC.) I know little about mediaeval costume, but my impression is that they have fallen into the same trap as the designers for The Tudors - the women show too much hair and not enough linen. Only a few older women wear headdresses. I assume this is supposed to make the leading ladies more attractive to modern eyes. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The White Queen
With so much emphasis on getting the clothing right, why not the hair/hat styles!! Not sure of the excuse for the hats. But Edward Maeder, in his book Hollywood and History, makes the point that hairstyles and makeup are more likely to be contemporary in historical movies than are the costumes themselves. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2013 11:05 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] The White Queen Kate, It's funny. . . you could say the same thing about modern productions of Victorian and Georgian fashions. Bareheaded women (and gloveless, too! the horror!) running around outside, neither properly coifed nor hatted. With so much emphasis on getting the clothing right, why not the hair/hat styles!! == Marjorie Wilser (hoping very much that we get The White Queen over here. . . someday) =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Kate Bunting wrote: As the list seems very quiet at the moment, I thought I'd ask what UK members who know about the Middle Ages think of the costumes in The White Queen? (It's a series based on 3 of Philippa Gregory's novels currently running on the BBC.) I know little about mediaeval costume, but my impression is that they have fallen into the same trap as the designers for The Tudors - the women show too much hair and not enough linen. Only a few older women wear headdresses. I assume this is supposed to make the leading ladies more attractive to modern eyes. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The White Queen
Yes, Dr. Zhivago is a classic example! And I remember a 1950's movie about Elizabeth that had those pointy bras. Hilarious! S. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of annbw...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 8:23 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] The White Queen With so much emphasis on getting the clothing right, why not the hair/hat styles!! Not sure of the excuse for the hats. But Edward Maeder, in his book Hollywood and History, makes the point that hairstyles and makeup are more likely to be contemporary in historical movies than are the costumes themselves. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Jul 24, 2013 11:05 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] The White Queen Kate, It's funny. . . you could say the same thing about modern productions of Victorian and Georgian fashions. Bareheaded women (and gloveless, too! the horror!) running around outside, neither properly coifed nor hatted. With so much emphasis on getting the clothing right, why not the hair/hat styles!! == Marjorie Wilser (hoping very much that we get The White Queen over here. . . someday) =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Kate Bunting wrote: As the list seems very quiet at the moment, I thought I'd ask what UK members who know about the Middle Ages think of the costumes in The White Queen? (It's a series based on 3 of Philippa Gregory's novels currently running on the BBC.) I know little about mediaeval costume, but my impression is that they have fallen into the same trap as the designers for The Tudors - the women show too much hair and not enough linen. Only a few older women wear headdresses. I assume this is supposed to make the leading ladies more attractive to modern eyes. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
