Re: [Haifux] FOSS/Proprietary Debate
Hi all, Clarification - to function as a Haifux member, one needs the following qualifications: 1. Self definition (be willing to state you are a Haifux member, it does not matter where you live, if you are willing to travel, as all preparations will be in Haifa). 2. Be familiar with the topic - the major contribution of the debate club members is knowing how to debate. The major contribution of the Haifux member is to know what (s)he is talking about, regarding FOSS vs. propriatary. Of course familiarity with both fields is an advantage. We have 3 _tentative_ volunteers so far, all with debate+FOSS background, though they may be geographically challenged. :) To make sure we have enough speakers on the day of the event, I hope there are at least two more volunteers. Thanks Orna 2009/11/14 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.com Hello all, and especially the avid argumentative people, The Technion debate club has offered to organize a show-debate on the subject of FOSS vs. proprietary software. They can try and ask well-known people on the industry to represent the proprietary side, if we take the FOSS side. A debate is a formal argument, with judges who decide who won. Each team has 3 speakers, each speaker gets 7 minutes. Since probably neither side is familiar with the rules nor the techniques of debating, people from the Technion debate club and from the HaifaU debate club are willing to assist/take part in the debate. My hope is that, no matter who wins in the debate, such a show-debate will increase awareness to FOSS in general and to Haifux specifically, and also trigger a live and healthy discussion on the debated matter. So what is there to do? 1. At this point we need volunteers to take part in the debate on the FOSS side. 2. Unless the debate club gets a personality to take part in the debate from the proprietary side, one volunteer will be needed to take that side. In that case, each team will be composed of one Haifux member, one Technion debater, and one HaifaU debater 3.As usual, your opinion is welcome. Orna. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
[Haifux] FOSS/Proprietary Debate
Hello all, and especially the avid argumentative people, The Technion debate club has offered to organize a show-debate on the subject of FOSS vs. proprietary software. They can try and ask well-known people on the industry to represent the proprietary side, if we take the FOSS side. A debate is a formal argument, with judges who decide who won. Each team has 3 speakers, each speaker gets 7 minutes. Since probably neither side is familiar with the rules nor the techniques of debating, people from the Technion debate club and from the HaifaU debate club are willing to assist/take part in the debate. My hope is that, no matter who wins in the debate, such a show-debate will increase awareness to FOSS in general and to Haifux specifically, and also trigger a live and healthy discussion on the debated matter. So what is there to do? 1. At this point we need volunteers to take part in the debate on the FOSS side. 2. Unless the debate club gets a personality to take part in the debate from the proprietary side, one volunteer will be needed to take that side. In that case, each team will be composed of one Haifux member, one Technion debater, and one HaifaU debater 3.As usual, your opinion is welcome. Orna. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] FOSS/Proprietary Debate
Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: Hello all, and especially the avid argumentative people, The Technion debate club has offered to organize a show-debate on the subject of FOSS vs. proprietary software. They can try and ask well-known people on the industry to represent the proprietary side, if we take the FOSS side. A debate is a formal argument, with judges who decide who won. Each team has 3 speakers, each speaker gets 7 minutes. Since probably neither side is familiar with the rules nor the techniques of debating, people from the Technion debate club and from the HaifaU debate club are willing to assist/take part in the debate. My hope is that, no matter who wins in the debate, such a show-debate will increase awareness to FOSS in general and to Haifux specifically, and also trigger a live and healthy discussion on the debated matter. So what is there to do? 1. At this point we need volunteers to take part in the debate on the FOSS side. How I wish I had the time to volunteer. Good luck, everyone. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] FOSS/Proprietary Debate
i'll hapilly voulenteer as the technion debater. either side. 2009/11/14 Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.biz Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: Hello all, and especially the avid argumentative people, The Technion debate club has offered to organize a show-debate on the subject of FOSS vs. proprietary software. They can try and ask well-known people on the industry to represent the proprietary side, if we take the FOSS side. A debate is a formal argument, with judges who decide who won. Each team has 3 speakers, each speaker gets 7 minutes. Since probably neither side is familiar with the rules nor the techniques of debating, people from the Technion debate club and from the HaifaU debate club are willing to assist/take part in the debate. My hope is that, no matter who wins in the debate, such a show-debate will increase awareness to FOSS in general and to Haifux specifically, and also trigger a live and healthy discussion on the debated matter. So what is there to do? 1. At this point we need volunteers to take part in the debate on the FOSS side. How I wish I had the time to volunteer. Good luck, everyone. Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.http://www.lingnu.com ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Marie von Ebner-Eschenbachhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/marie_von_ebnereschenbac.html - Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] FOSS/Proprietary Debate
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 06:01:27PM +0200, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: Hello all, and especially the avid argumentative people, The Technion debate club has offered to organize a show-debate on the subject of FOSS vs. proprietary software. Could you please be more specific? There are a number of quite different questions: * Is FOSS useful for the economy? * Is proprietary software good for the economy? * Is proprietary software immoral? etc. Here is an example of a more focused question: Should FOSS be preffered to proprietary software in goverenment contracts? Note that this question mostly ignores moral aspects. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] FOSS/Proprietary Debate
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote: On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 06:01:27PM +0200, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda wrote: Hello all, and especially the avid argumentative people, The Technion debate club has offered to organize a show-debate on the subject of FOSS vs. proprietary software. Could you please be more specific? There are a number of quite different questions: * Is FOSS useful for the economy? * Is proprietary software good for the economy? * Is proprietary software immoral? etc. Here is an example of a more focused question: Should FOSS be preffered to proprietary software in goverenment contracts? The specific question was not decided yet. Given the resignation of Boaz Dolev of the ministry of finance, who is a supporter of FOSS in gov, it is a good time for the gov question, IMHO. Another battlefield is the user's perspective - should I prefer to install FOSS on my machine(s) (as opposed to should I prefer to develop FOSS). Note that this question mostly ignores moral aspects. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
