[HCDX] Fw: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .

2023-03-21 Thread DF5SX

ARMENIA/BULGARIA/UZBEKISTAN/TURKEY/TAJIKISTAN

17460.000 even fq on Tue March 21 at 12.40 UT today still  from
Bulgaria or Armenia bcast center


on Tue March 21 at 12.40 UT both programs on co-channel 17460 kHz
b a dc h a n n e l   px mixture together.

17460even Denge Welat likely viaUNID location instead,
and
17460.010 kHz TRT Osmanic music of Turkish national intelligence
Organisation (MIT).

Denge Welat radio better AHEAD signal in Greece and India remotedly, 
S=9+10dB,


but TRT stronger S=9+20dB in KWT and Doha Qatar ME remotedly instead.

[selected SDR options, span 12.5 kHz RBW 15.3 Hertz]
(wb  df5sx, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 21)

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: df...@darc.de

Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2023
To: _ WOR ; HCDX ; _ BCLNEWS
Subject: [HCDX] Fw: Fw: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .

ARMENIA/UZBEKISTAN/TURKEY

on Sunday March 19 at 09.40 UT both programs on co-channel 17460 kHz
bad channel px mixture together.

17460even Denge Welat likely via Gavar Armenia instead,
and
17460.014 kHz TRT Osmanic music of Turkish national intelligence
Organisation (MIT).

D.W. radio better AHEAD signal in Greece and India remotedly, S=9+10dB,

but TRT stronger S=9+20dB in KWT and Doha Qatar ME remotedly instead.

[selected SDR options, span 12.5 kHz RBW 15.3 Hertz]
(wb  df5sx, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 19)

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- 
From: df...@darc.de

Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023
Subject: [HCDX] Fw: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .

UZBEKISTAN   re: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz ...
One of the new Kurdish radio "Denge Welat" test fqs are 15480, 17460 etc.
noted on Friday March 17:

17459.751 kHz Denge Welat Kurdish outlet at 14.54 UT on S=9+20dB level in
 Doha Qatar, Kuwait, and Athens Greece SDR units this afternoon.

17480.011 TUR  TRT Emirler program, drums and trumpet NE mx type, S=7 only
fair on 16 mb at 14.58 UT.  {thanks Alan: "National Intelligence
Organisation
(MIT), who forwards the information to TRT's Emirler station ..."

[selected SDR options, span 12.5 kHz RBW 15.3 Hertz]
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[HCDX] Fw: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .

2023-03-17 Thread DF5SX
UZBEKISTAN   re: Denge Welat on 17470 kHz ...
One of the new Kurdish radio "Denge Welat" test fqs are 15480, 17460 etc. 
noted on Friday March 17:

17459.751 kHz Denge Welat Kurdish outlet at 14.54 UT on S=9+20dB level in
  Doha Qatar, Kuwait, and Athens Greece SDR units this afternoon.

17480.011 TUR  TRT Emirler program, drums and trumpet NE mx type, S=7 only
fair on 16 mb at 14.58 UT.  {thanks Alan: "National Intelligence Organisation
(MIT), who forwards the information to TRT's Emirler station ..."

17600even ALG  RTA Bechar, Arabic mx to Sahel target zone, S=9+15, at 15.16 UT
17630even MLI  CRI Africa relay site Bamako II relay, En 14-16, 15.13 UT, 
S=9+5dB
  100 Hertz main power sring seen on screen.
17660even ARS  SBA Saudi Internat. Riyadh, French at 15.12 UT, S=6 poor in NE.
17720.015 TUR  TRT Emirler in Arabic language, S=8 at 15.10 UT.
17790even ROU  RRI Bucharest via Galbeni, weekend mx magazine in Romanian,
  S=9+25dB at 15.09 UT.
17894.993 STP  US AGM relay site Pinheira Sao Tome, En, Algerian item talk,
  ID at 15.07 UT.

also in 19 mb:
15030.004 IND  AIR Bangalore 500kW beast, Swahili program, S=9+10dB at 13.03UT
  fidel singer mx of South Asia subcontinent.
15120even KWT  US AGM of RFA Kuwait 12.30-13.30 UT, S=8 at 13.05 UT Burmese.
15154.998 MRA  US AGM Tinian island, RFA in Khmer language, S=8 at 13.07 UT.
15170even ROU  CARRIER empty ONLY, RRI Tiganesti - no Arabic modulation at all
  foulty 13.00-13.30 UT transmission S=9+35dB in GRC and KWT, in Doha 
Qatar,
  at 13.09 UT.
15190.015 BRA  R Inconfidencia, S=6 at 13.11 UT on March 17.
15460even ROU  RRI Galbeni bcast site, Ar at 13.12 UT, S=9+30dB in Near East.
15629.836 UZB  II-TV in Persian via Tashkent, S=9+15dB, at 13.14 UT, -14.30 UT
15185even UNIDentified, WRMI FL-USA ? parked here?, 14.32 UT, S=9 no modulation
15270even D__  US AGM VoA Biblis in Kurdish 14-15 UT, S=9 at 14.34 UT.
15340even mixture and
15340.028 TWN  SOH Mandarin and CHN  CNR1 Mandarin jamming, S=7 at 14.36 UT.
15370even ROU  RRI Galbeni site, Romanian sce at 14.38 UT, S=9+25dB powerful.
15410even ALG  RTA Ourgla to western Sahel zone in Arabic, S=9+15dB 14.39 UT
15420even UAE  BBC London in Somali, via ENC Al Dhabbaya, S=9 at 14.40 UT.

15450 / 15445 - 15465 OTHR broadband radar scatter S=9+20dB, 14.41 UT.
and 15495 - 15515 kHz too.

15515even TJK  AWR Dushanbe relay txion in English , S=9+10dB, at 14.42 UT.
15530.014 GUM  AWR KSDA Facpi Point relay, Burmese, 14.30-15.00 UT, S=8 14.45
15574.994 KOR  KBS Kimjae txion, 14-15 in Korean language, S=8 at 14.46 UT.
15580.002 BOT  US AGM relay site VoA Moepeng Hill, En, S=7-8, 14.47 UT.
15689.989 D__  US AGM relay site Lampertheim, R Farda in Persian to Iran target
  S=9+25dB 14.50 UT. 100 Hertz buzz string of German mainpower seen.
15700.009 DNK  Likely WMR Randers mini power private mx program, S=4 14.51 UT.
15704.872 CLN  scheduled AWR Trinco SLBC relay in Mandarin, but likely instead
  via Tashkent bcast center in Uzbekistan ? due of  o d d  fq 14.53 UT.

[selected SDR options, span 12.5 kHz RBW 15.3 Hertz]
(wb  df5sx, wwdxc BC-DX TopNews March 17)


From: Zach Liang
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [WOR] Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .
Well just looking at the twente spectrum analysis denge welat started 
on 17460 on 1415 with turkish stoppin from 17480 on 1555 as shown in the photo 
below.
Right now on 1635 a signal  of -35dbm is transmitting on 17459.75 (vai twente )
and 51/23 ghood () in my PL330 in litohoron MT olympus with
the 20 m external antenna< due to shidt i can assume this is Welat -70 in 
Thessaloniki

My previous report ca 1510

On 1505 denge welat is on 17460 with 34/10. Signal
Erdogan on 17480 with 40/20
Reception on mountain Olymp village

On 1505 denge welat is on 17460 with 34/10. Signal
Erdogan on 17480 with 40/20. Reception on mountain Olymp village
Zacharias Liangas

From: Arthur Pozner
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2023 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WOR] Denge Welat on 17470 kHz .
Well - they changed to 17460 kHz when I found it at around 14:00 UTC. 
Seems to be using the same transmitter in Tashkent (off be about - 275 Hertz). 
The Turkish jammer is still on 17480 kHz at 15:00 UTC !

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 7:11?AM Zach Liang  wrote:
Erdogan  -59dbm 17470.01 kHZ
Welat-59dbm 17478.781 kHZ
CGTN -49dbm 17490.0 kHZ all via Twente on 1130 17/3

 ??? 17 ??? 2023  12:44??.?., ?/? Alan Holder via groups.io ??:
Denge Welat has moved to 17480 kHz - heard when I was checking today 
at 10:35 UT. The Erdogan jammer remains on 17470 kHz (so far).

I would expect the jamming is not very effective in nearby Kurdish speaking 
regions
of Turkey and Syria in particular, due to the higher frequency skipping over.

The Turks were quick to find Denge's frequency change from 11 to 17 MHz.
I wonder who in Turkey is monitoring the station? - presumably someone in the
National Intelligence Organisation (MIT), who forwards the