Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
This really needs to be scripted !!! Going to bed now On 7/21/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Box:vol issue is one that trips up many newcomers (including myself). Nancy can usually walk people through it. The parameters will not be the same in your system as they are in the example. I.e. the Bonez,morphix etc needs to be replaced with the hostname for your linux box. That is why Nancy asked for your hostname -s result. Kevin P.S. For most people it takes at least a week to get up and running, so hang in there. --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROU:BONEZ is what the instructions to input. ROU:Morphix was already configured. Am I'm making sense ? Darnn. I thought I was getting somewhere with this stuff. On 7/20/05, Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled down the OpenVistASemiVivAVADemo0.1.tgz form Sourceforge about 3 hours ago,, untarred/zipped and began to configure it. Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR Choose from: ROU:BONEZ ROU:Morphix You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:vista Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:vista Are you adding 'ROU:vista' as a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS (the 3RD)? No// (No) ?? According to the directions, I was suppoe to enter ROU:vista. The ROU:Morphix was already there. Then I tried ROU:vista thinking that the output from D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y was what I was really suppose to enter. Either option,, I'm asked if I want to add the pair. Confuesd,, On 7/20/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run the GETENV etc, that gives you the box volume pair you need to use for your box in general, but I have a suspicion something odd is happening here. What version of VistA are you using, and when you are asked to select the box volume pair, put ?? and see what pairs it lists. Also, what is the result of the command at the Linux prompt hostname -s? On Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:05 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote: I'm having issues with the instuctions on that link Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:bonez Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez// RESERVED: ^ Are what the instructions advised to do, however when I try those options, I'm asked it I would like to add a new Taskman site parameter D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y yields this output VAH^ROU^vista^ROU:vista I tried ROU:vista same results. Everything worked fine from there. Help On 7/19/05, Bhaskar, KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as an OpenVistA SemiVivA package is concerned, no. -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ruben Safir Sent: Tue 7/19/2005 10:03 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions IS debian different from any other GNU/Linux system? Ruben --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=Click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t
The host file is for name resolution. If a user puts in a name worksrv a program could look into the host file and find out that it has to connect to the IP address 38.113.0.251. You could also use DNS, it depends on how you set up your machine to do name resolution if it uses DNS first or the host file to translate a name into an IP address. The entries below look fine just remember anything with a # sign is a comment. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 4:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t There is a way to create a secure tunnel CPRS to Linux with GTM with the new GTM and the new one-port CPRS, but it is going to be tricky with Cache without a VPN. On Wednesday 20 July 2005 03:36 pm, Tomlinson, Steven B wrote: Just as a caution to anyone attempting to use CPRSChart/VistA in thsi manner ... all patient data as well as Access and Verify codes will be sent through the Internet in clear-text. We wrestled with this problem for several months and never got a HIPAA compliant solution without resorting to using a VPN or Citrix. Steven B. Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui www.PacificHui.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thurman Pedigo Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:06 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote client This is, I presume, the new broker. The client is 1.0.25.28 and I have it running fine in a LAN environment. We want to create an accessible connection, outside the LAN, using CPRS across the internet. The firewall here is 3COM hardware, programmable, and tested on several outside connections. What this boils down to is VistA/CPRS is working fine, and we want to create a connection accessible via internet. It seems to me this is a pure play of proper host-file sync. Gregory Woodhouse alerted us to netstat, which seems a powerful tool, if I can figure how to use it over the net. The other issue grown out of this experiment is whether one can have more than one host file address for remote connections. For instance - how does the following work? #38.25.63.10 x.acme.com # x client host 67.104.173.198 vistasrv 127.0.0.1 localhost 38.113.0.251worksrv Works ok? Conflict? Corrections? Thanks, thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:04 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote client Are you running the new broker or the old broker? If you are running the old broker, you must open ALL the ports on the client machine. The old broker (from the server) tasks off a sub-task which chooses a random port to re-connect with on the client machine. Also, you must make sure the the client machine has a routable address from the server. (if they are both in the same IP range, even if they are non-routable addresses, its okay. Most routers refuse to route 192.168.x.x addresses as well as 10.x.x.x addresses. This is the Ethernet equivalent of calling someone on the telephone, and leaving your extension number for them to call back without telling them the main trunk line number. The server may have an address (non-routable) but there is no possible way to use the address to reconnect to the client. David (713) 870-3834 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C58D08.6F366DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi If I run CPRSchart 1.0.5.28 on the same machine as VistA, I am able to connect. If I run from a remote machine, the login screen never appears. I have a port listener on the server, and I see the client reaching it so I think my HOSTS file (on the client) is OK. I have the same port open on my client firewall. what else should I check? Thank you, Renee --=_NextPart_000_00F2_01C58D08.6F366DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable html xmlns:o=3Durn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office =
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t
The message below makes sense. By the same token, would the following configuration have problems resolving? 67.104.173.198 vistasrv 127.0.0.1 localhost 38.113.0.251vistasrv Does VistA require resolving to vistasrv, or will it resolve to another name (such as worksrv)? As in the following: 67.104.173.198 vistasrv 127.0.0.1 localhost 38.113.0.251worksrv And: We use DNS for WWW only, not our LAN. Does that impact the above configuration? I think I am starting to get it. Thanks, thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:22 AM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t The host file is for name resolution. If a user puts in a name worksrv a program could look into the host file and find out that it has to connect to the IP address 38.113.0.251. You could also use DNS, it depends on how you set up your machine to do name resolution if it uses DNS first or the host file to translate a name into an IP address. The entries below look fine just remember anything with a # sign is a comment. Thanks Marc Aylesworth --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story (long live the HardHats). Alberto, Odor, MD -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Ignacio Valdes Enviado el: Jueves, 21 de Julio de 2005 08:56 a.m. Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net; openhealth@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System http://www.linuxmednews.com/1121956528/index_html --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes
Go to the NY Times site and look on the right hand side of the page for the link, complete with a screen shot of the cover sheet of CPRS and Kevin Toppenberg's photo. http://www.NYTimes.com -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page! -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story (long live the HardHats). Alberto, Odor, MD --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t
I think it will pick the first one. BTW, I know configuring BIND sounds like work you'd rathert not do, but there are a lot advantages to running DNS on your LAN. --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The message below makes sense. By the same token, would the following configuration have problems resolving? 67.104.173.198 vistasrv 127.0.0.1 localhost 38.113.0.251vistasrv Does VistA require resolving to vistasrv, or will it resolve to another name (such as worksrv)? As in the following: 67.104.173.198 vistasrv 127.0.0.1 localhost 38.113.0.251worksrv And: We use DNS for WWW only, not our LAN. Does that impact the above configuration? I think I am starting to get it. Thanks, thurman === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes
Funny...he looks just like Tony Blair. Okay, okay, wrong photo. --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to the NY Times site and look on the right hand side of the page for the link, complete with a screen shot of the cover sheet of CPRS and Kevin Toppenberg's photo. http://www.NYTimes.com -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes
Thanks Nancy, I saw the article and I am interested in business opportunities related to the upcoming roll-out to physicians. I was recently laid off from a pharmaceutical job and have good contacts in physician offices in my region. Can you give me any tips on sites to visit for training opportunities? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:08 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes Go to the NY Times site and look on the right hand side of the page for the link, complete with a screen shot of the cover sheet of CPRS and Kevin Toppenberg's photo. http://www.NYTimes.com -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
Nice to chat with the Start - cheers for Nancy/Kevin. And thanks to everyone for all the help./t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maury Pepper Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:33 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System The long-expected article by Gina Kolata about VistaOffice is in today's NY Times. www.nytimes.com/ Under the HEALTH heading, click on the title: U.S. Will Offer Free Electronic Records System. You should be able to access this without a logon, at least for today. Later, when logon is required, you can register for FREE. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=ick ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes
The Indianapolis VAMC was named one of the 25 Most Wired hospitals in the United States by HHN magazine, and it also won one of 3 Innovator Awards given out annually by the magazine for the implementation of the Tele-Diabetic Eye Screening Program. You can read about it here. http://www.hhnmag.com/hhnmag/jsp/articledisplay.jsp?dcrpath=HHNMAG/PubsNewsA rticle/data/0507HHN_CoverStory_Landing_Pagedomain=HHNMAG It seems like Vista is getting a lot of ink, these days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:08 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes Go to the NY Times site and look on the right hand side of the page for the link, complete with a screen shot of the cover sheet of CPRS and Kevin Toppenberg's photo. http://www.NYTimes.com -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t
It shouldn't but traditionally the 127.0.0.1 is the first line of the host file. I am unsure if it is a rewuirment orjust a practice. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thurman Pedigo Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 10:43 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t The message below makes sense. By the same token, would the following configuration have problems resolving? 67.104.173.198 vistasrv 127.0.0.1 localhost 38.113.0.251vistasrv Does VistA require resolving to vistasrv, or will it resolve to another name (such as worksrv)? As in the following: 67.104.173.198 vistasrv 127.0.0.1 localhost 38.113.0.251worksrv And: We use DNS for WWW only, not our LAN. Does that impact the above configuration? I think I am starting to get it. Thanks, thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:22 AM To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net' Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t The host file is for name resolution. If a user puts in a name worksrv a program could look into the host file and find out that it has to connect to the IP address 38.113.0.251. You could also use DNS, it depends on how you set up your machine to do name resolution if it uses DNS first or the host file to translate a name into an IP address. The entries below look fine just remember anything with a # sign is a comment. Thanks Marc Aylesworth --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Fwd: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes]
Original Message Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:30:48 -0400 From: Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom, Go to the WorldVistA website and follow the link to the VVSO pages...here is the direct path: http://www.worldvista.org/vvso/ The VVSO will be providing training for vendors who are interested in providing VistAOffice related services. Cheers, Joseph Program manager, VVSO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Nancy, I saw the article and I am interested in business opportunities related to the upcoming roll-out to physicians. I was recently laid off from a pharmaceutical job and have good contacts in physician offices in my region. Can you give me any tips on sites to visit for training opportunities? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 11:08 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] VistA-Office and more In the NYTimes Go to the NY Times site and look on the right hand side of the page for the link, complete with a screen shot of the cover sheet of CPRS and Kevin Toppenberg's photo. http://www.NYTimes.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)
Very interesting. I look forward to learning more about it when it becomes available. What is the middleware? Perl, Java, other? What is the crossplatform foundation for the client? The split-server configuration is similar to the way that we configure VMACS in production systems except that we also use https for the local connections. Todd Berman wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:25 -0700, Jim Self wrote: This sort of approach would undoubtedly simplify many things. Since SSL is *THE* secure protocol for virtually all secure web services, I imagine that it was simply overlooked not rejected. Could you give us more specifics as to what you (medsphere) are doing and is it available as Open Source? We have implemented 2 things, a crossplatform version of CPRS that runs, and has been tested, on Windows, Linux and OSX. Our goal is to both modernize CPRS in general, and to allow us to integrate and expand on the GUI functionality offered. This application talks to VistA through a piece of middle-ware, that publishes a standards-based SOAP Web Service API instead of RPC calls. This API is available over a HTTPS connection, and the middle-ware then speaks directly to the VistA server, over a lan connection (thus isolating the VistA server from the internet-at-large, and allowing remote connections in a HIPPA compliant manner). We are in the midst of heavy discussions about how to open source the various pieces involved. --Todd --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
I agree. And for about 2-3 months I worked on a scripting system. But then I got my system configured, and others didn't seem to be taking the code and doing anything with it, so I put it on the shelf. I'd be happy to send you what I have if you want. Kevin --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This really needs to be scripted !!! Going to bed now On 7/21/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Box:vol issue is one that trips up many newcomers (including myself). Nancy can usually walk people through it. The parameters will not be the same in your system as they are in the example. I.e. the Bonez,morphix etc needs to be replaced with the hostname for your linux box. That is why Nancy asked for your hostname -s result. Kevin P.S. For most people it takes at least a week to get up and running, so hang in there. --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROU:BONEZ is what the instructions to input. ROU:Morphix was already configured. Am I'm making sense ? Darnn. I thought I was getting somewhere with this stuff. On 7/20/05, Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled down the OpenVistASemiVivAVADemo0.1.tgz form Sourceforge about 3 hours ago,, untarred/zipped and began to configure it. Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR Choose from: ROU:BONEZ ROU:Morphix You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:vista Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:vista Are you adding 'ROU:vista' as a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS (the 3RD)? No// (No) ?? According to the directions, I was suppoe to enter ROU:vista. The ROU:Morphix was already there. Then I tried ROU:vista thinking that the output from D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y was what I was really suppose to enter. Either option,, I'm asked if I want to add the pair. Confuesd,, On 7/20/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run the GETENV etc, that gives you the box volume pair you need to use for your box in general, but I have a suspicion something odd is happening here. What version of VistA are you using, and when you are asked to select the box volume pair, put ?? and see what pairs it lists. Also, what is the result of the command at the Linux prompt hostname -s? On Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:05 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote: I'm having issues with the instuctions on that link Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:bonez Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez// RESERVED: ^ Are what the instructions advised to do, however when I try those options, I'm asked it I would like to add a new Taskman site parameter D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y yields this output VAH^ROU^vista^ROU:vista I tried ROU:vista same results. Everything worked fine from there. Help On 7/19/05, Bhaskar, KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as an OpenVistA SemiVivA package is concerned, no. -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ruben Safir Sent: Tue 7/19/2005 10:03 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions IS debian different from any other GNU/Linux system? Ruben --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=Click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === message truncated === __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Don't forget that there are Cache users, too. I kind of like Red Hat's approach of using a Python script (Anaconda) for system setup, but that's just me. --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. And for about 2-3 months I worked on a scripting system. But then I got my system configured, and others didn't seem to be taking the code and doing anything with it, so I put it on the shelf. I'd be happy to send you what I have if you want. Kevin --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This really needs to be scripted !!! Going to bed now On 7/21/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Box:vol issue is one that trips up many newcomers (including myself). Nancy can usually walk people through it. The parameters will not be the same in your system as they are in the example. I.e. the Bonez,morphix etc needs to be replaced with the hostname for your linux box. That is why Nancy asked for your hostname -s result. Kevin P.S. For most people it takes at least a week to get up and running, so hang in there. --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROU:BONEZ is what the instructions to input. ROU:Morphix was already configured. Am I'm making sense ? Darnn. I thought I was getting somewhere with this stuff. On 7/20/05, Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled down the OpenVistASemiVivAVADemo0.1.tgz form Sourceforge about 3 hours ago,, untarred/zipped and began to configure it. Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR Choose from: ROU:BONEZ ROU:Morphix You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:vista Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:vista Are you adding 'ROU:vista' as a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS (the 3RD)? No// (No) ?? According to the directions, I was suppoe to enter ROU:vista. The ROU:Morphix was already there. Then I tried ROU:vista thinking that the output from D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y was what I was really suppose to enter. Either option,, I'm asked if I want to add the pair. Confuesd,, On 7/20/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run the GETENV etc, that gives you the box volume pair you need to use for your box in general, but I have a suspicion something odd is happening here. What version of VistA are you using, and when you are asked to select the box volume pair, put ?? and see what pairs it lists. Also, what is the result of the command at the Linux prompt hostname -s? On Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:05 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote: I'm having issues with the instuctions on that link Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:bonez Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez// RESERVED: ^ Are what the instructions advised to do, however when I try those options, I'm asked it I would like to add a new Taskman site parameter D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y yields this output VAH^ROU^vista^ROU:vista I tried ROU:vista same results. Everything worked fine from there. Help On 7/19/05, Bhaskar, KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as an OpenVistA SemiVivA package is concerned, no. -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Ruben Safir Sent: Tue 7/19/2005 10:03 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions IS debian different from any other GNU/Linux system? Ruben --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=Click
RE: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
Blush... Kevin --- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page! -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story (long live the HardHats). Alberto, Odor, MD --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t
Lets say we have 30 devices. What is the advantage of DNS/BIND over directly addressing the IP? Thanks, Thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:37 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t I think it will pick the first one. BTW, I know configuring BIND sounds like work you'd rathert not do, but there are a lot advantages to --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)
Medsphere has certainly put money into the development of this technology. And I will understand if they want a return on that investment. Is there any way that we could develop equivalent technology in an opensource fashion? I don't understand the arrangement he described. Kevin --- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting. I look forward to learning more about it when it becomes available. What is the middleware? Perl, Java, other? What is the crossplatform foundation for the client? The split-server configuration is similar to the way that we configure VMACS in production systems except that we also use https for the local connections. Todd Berman wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:25 -0700, Jim Self wrote: This sort of approach would undoubtedly simplify many things. Since SSL is *THE* secure protocol for virtually all secure web services, I imagine that it was simply overlooked not rejected. Could you give us more specifics as to what you (medsphere) are doing and is it available as Open Source? We have implemented 2 things, a crossplatform version of CPRS that runs, and has been tested, on Windows, Linux and OSX. Our goal is to both modernize CPRS in general, and to allow us to integrate and expand on the GUI functionality offered. This application talks to VistA through a piece of middle-ware, that publishes a standards-based SOAP Web Service API instead of RPC calls. This API is available over a HTTPS connection, and the middle-ware then speaks directly to the VistA server, over a lan connection (thus isolating the VistA server from the internet-at-large, and allowing remote connections in a HIPPA compliant manner). We are in the midst of heavy discussions about how to open source the various pieces involved. --Todd --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Senate HELP Committee Approves Joint Health IT Bill
The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee on Wednesday approved by voice vote a measure (S 1418) intended to expand the use of IT among health care providers, CongressDaily reports. http://www.ihealthbeat.org/index.cfm?Action=dspItemitemID=112818 -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
My script was a M script, so it could be made to be platform independant. It took a big XML file that contained data settings to be put into the database, and also code for putting that data in. And could do the entire configuration process in about 2 minutes. The problem is that putting some data fields into the database is dependant on other fields already being present. So one might run the script once and find it to crash. Then run it again immediately, and it would succeed because the first run had partly gotten the required info in. So my next step was to be, before I shelved it, of figuring out the ORDER that data would need to be put in. I would group fields into a pass #1 and pass #2 etc. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that there are Cache users, too. I kind of like Red Hat's approach of using a Python script (Anaconda) for system setup, but that's just me. --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. And for about 2-3 months I worked on a scripting system. But then I got my system configured, and others didn't seem to be taking the code and doing anything with it, so I put it on the shelf. I'd be happy to send you what I have if you want. Kevin --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This really needs to be scripted !!! Going to bed now On 7/21/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Box:vol issue is one that trips up many newcomers (including myself). Nancy can usually walk people through it. The parameters will not be the same in your system as they are in the example. I.e. the Bonez,morphix etc needs to be replaced with the hostname for your linux box. That is why Nancy asked for your hostname -s result. Kevin P.S. For most people it takes at least a week to get up and running, so hang in there. --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROU:BONEZ is what the instructions to input. ROU:Morphix was already configured. Am I'm making sense ? Darnn. I thought I was getting somewhere with this stuff. On 7/20/05, Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled down the OpenVistASemiVivAVADemo0.1.tgz form Sourceforge about 3 hours ago,, untarred/zipped and began to configure it. Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR Choose from: ROU:BONEZ ROU:Morphix You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:vista Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:vista Are you adding 'ROU:vista' as a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS (the 3RD)? No// (No) ?? According to the directions, I was suppoe to enter ROU:vista. The ROU:Morphix was already there. Then I tried ROU:vista thinking that the output from D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y was what I was really suppose to enter. Either option,, I'm asked if I want to add the pair. Confuesd,, On 7/20/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run the GETENV etc, that gives you the box volume pair you need to use for your box in general, but I have a suspicion something odd is happening here. What version of VistA are you using, and when you are asked to select the box volume pair, put ?? and see what pairs it lists. Also, what is the result of the command at the Linux prompt hostname -s? On Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:05 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote: I'm having issues with the instuctions on that link Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:bonez Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez// RESERVED: ^ Are what the instructions advised to do, however when I try those options, I'm asked it I would like to add a new Taskman site parameter D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y yields this output VAH^ROU^vista^ROU:vista I tried ROU:vista same results. Everything worked fine from === message truncated ===
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
I was thinking about going back to the beginning and developing a script to automate the process of installing M (whether it is Cache or GT.M) and loading the database. Once that's done, it would be possible to just call your M script. Of course, that wouldn't be GUI. --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My script was a M script, so it could be made to be platform independant. It took a big XML file that contained data settings to be put into the database, and also code for putting that data in. And could do the entire configuration process in about 2 minutes. The problem is that putting some data fields into the database is dependant on other fields already being present. So one might run the script once and find it to crash. Then run it again immediately, and it would succeed because the first run had partly gotten the required info in. So my next step was to be, before I shelved it, of figuring out the ORDER that data would need to be put in. I would group fields into a pass #1 and pass #2 etc. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that there are Cache users, too. I kind of like Red Hat's approach of using a Python script (Anaconda) for system setup, but that's just me. --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. And for about 2-3 months I worked on a scripting system. But then I got my system configured, and others didn't seem to be taking the code and doing anything with it, so I put it on the shelf. I'd be happy to send you what I have if you want. Kevin --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This really needs to be scripted !!! Going to bed now On 7/21/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Box:vol issue is one that trips up many newcomers (including myself). Nancy can usually walk people through it. The parameters will not be the same in your system as they are in the example. I.e. the Bonez,morphix etc needs to be replaced with the hostname for your linux box. That is why Nancy asked for your hostname -s result. Kevin P.S. For most people it takes at least a week to get up and running, so hang in there. --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROU:BONEZ is what the instructions to input. ROU:Morphix was already configured. Am I'm making sense ? Darnn. I thought I was getting somewhere with this stuff. On 7/20/05, Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled down the OpenVistASemiVivAVADemo0.1.tgz form Sourceforge about 3 hours ago,, untarred/zipped and began to configure it. Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR Choose from: ROU:BONEZ ROU:Morphix You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:vista Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:vista Are you adding 'ROU:vista' as a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS (the 3RD)? No// (No) ?? According to the directions, I was suppoe to enter ROU:vista. The ROU:Morphix was already there. Then I tried ROU:vista thinking that the output from D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y was what I was really suppose to enter. Either option,, I'm asked if I want to add the pair. Confuesd,, On 7/20/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run the GETENV etc, that gives you the box volume pair you need to use for your box in general, but I have a suspicion something odd is happening here. What version of VistA are you using, and when you are asked to select the box volume pair, put ?? and see what pairs it lists. Also, what is the result of the command at the Linux prompt hostname -s? On Wednesday 20 July 2005 11:05 pm, Pkale Robinson wrote: I'm having issues with the instuctions on that link Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:bonez You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:bonez Select TASKMAN SITE
[Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing?
Hello all, Like many people, this morning I heard about VistA for the first time and am trying to get my head around what, exactly, it does. I understand that it handles electronic medical records. Very cool. How about the rest of the functionality needed by a multi-location practice. Specific areas of interest: -Scheduling: Can it handle the day-to-day scheduling of patients? Also, can it schedule alerts and reminders for when staff need to followup with patients? -Billing: I see it does billing, does it produce HIPAA compliant X12 837 claims? Can it handle 835 remits? -I see that the update coming in August is a Windows installer. Is Mac OS X/Linux/Unix support available, if not in the base product? I've looked at http://www.vistasoftware.org/ and http://www.hardhats.organd both talk more about the technology and not the solutions it offers. That this is available and being publicized is very cool and I think this may be a *huge* step forward for the US medical industry, I'm trying to figure out how huge. :) Thanks! Chris Cioffi-- Obviously crime pays, or there'd be no crime. -- G. Gorden Liddy
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
The arrangement is for distributed computing. You would have a web server, some middleware ex. Jboss or websphere application server and finally Vista all running on computers, now these services can be running on the same machine or separate ones. The web request gets accepted by the apache webserver and the request gets sent to the middle ware that then gets the info from vista which returns that information to you through apache. There are other players as well of course. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:57 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...) Medsphere has certainly put money into the development of this technology. And I will understand if they want a return on that investment. Is there any way that we could develop equivalent technology in an opensource fashion? I don't understand the arrangement he described. Kevin --- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting. I look forward to learning more about it when it becomes available. What is the middleware? Perl, Java, other? What is the crossplatform foundation for the client? The split-server configuration is similar to the way that we configure VMACS in production systems except that we also use https for the local connections. Todd Berman wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:25 -0700, Jim Self wrote: This sort of approach would undoubtedly simplify many things. Since SSL is *THE* secure protocol for virtually all secure web services, I imagine that it was simply overlooked not rejected. Could you give us more specifics as to what you (medsphere) are doing and is it available as Open Source? We have implemented 2 things, a crossplatform version of CPRS that runs, and has been tested, on Windows, Linux and OSX. Our goal is to both modernize CPRS in general, and to allow us to integrate and expand on the GUI functionality offered. This application talks to VistA through a piece of middle-ware, that publishes a standards-based SOAP Web Service API instead of RPC calls. This API is available over a HTTPS connection, and the middle-ware then speaks directly to the VistA server, over a lan connection (thus isolating the VistA server from the internet-at-large, and allowing remote connections in a HIPPA compliant manner). We are in the midst of heavy discussions about how to open source the various pieces involved. --Todd --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t
DNS/BIND would provide a central location for the other machines to do lookups. If there is only a few machines then you do not need it but, when the number of machine goes past the I can easily walk to each machine and update the host files on all of them then DNS offers a way to have all the machines point to one server and all you have to update is the central servers DNS files and push them to all the other machines. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thurman Pedigo Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t Lets say we have 30 devices. What is the advantage of DNS/BIND over directly addressing the IP? Thanks, Thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:37 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t I think it will pick the first one. BTW, I know configuring BIND sounds like work you'd rathert not do, but there are a lot advantages to --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t
The two big advantages are flexibility and expandability. Beyond that, DNS is just A records (mapping domain names to IP addresses). Other resource record types you may find useful are CNAME records, which allow you to create aliases for a domain, PTR records allowing you to translate IP addresses back to domain names, MX or mail exchanger records to handle routing of mail and SRV records, which allow you to create named services. There are a few other resource records having to do with DNS administration and lookup, such as SOA (Start of Authority) and NS (name server). Actually, 30 is a big number: that's already 435 pairs of addresses. You may want to make part (or all) of your network non-routable, you may want to set up proxies, you may want to make it possible for people to send mail from outsidwe your facility to one or more systems within your facility. You may have occasion to expand, introduce new technologies or just move systems (all of which can force renumbering), you may want to centralize name administration so that you don't have to set up host files on each of your systems separately. You may want to use a protocol like DHCP to dynamically assign IP addresses. You may want to partition your LAN due to network bottlenecks. I suppose I could keep going, but there are a lot of areas in which use of domain names can make your life easier. --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets say we have 30 devices. What is the advantage of DNS/BIND over directly addressing the IP? Thanks, Thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 9:37 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote clien t I think it will pick the first one. BTW, I know configuring BIND sounds like work you'd rathert not do, but there are a lot advantages to --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Bhaskar has a script to install the database and GTM into Linux, but it is the configuration that is the problem. Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! ( ;-) I just couldn't resist ;-) ) On Thursday 21 July 2005 03:07 pm, Greg Woodhouse wrote: I was thinking about going back to the beginning and developing a script to automate the process of installing M (whether it is Cache or GT.M) and loading the database. Once that's done, it would be possible to just call your M script. Of course, that wouldn't be GUI. --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My script was a M script, so it could be made to be platform independant. It took a big XML file that contained data settings to be put into the database, and also code for putting that data in. And could do the entire configuration process in about 2 minutes. The problem is that putting some data fields into the database is dependant on other fields already being present. So one might run the script once and find it to crash. Then run it again immediately, and it would succeed because the first run had partly gotten the required info in. So my next step was to be, before I shelved it, of figuring out the ORDER that data would need to be put in. I would group fields into a pass #1 and pass #2 etc. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't forget that there are Cache users, too. I kind of like Red Hat's approach of using a Python script (Anaconda) for system setup, but that's just me. --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. And for about 2-3 months I worked on a scripting system. But then I got my system configured, and others didn't seem to be taking the code and doing anything with it, so I put it on the shelf. I'd be happy to send you what I have if you want. Kevin --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This really needs to be scripted !!! Going to bed now On 7/21/05, Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Box:vol issue is one that trips up many newcomers (including myself). Nancy can usually walk people through it. The parameters will not be the same in your system as they are in the example. I.e. the Bonez,morphix etc needs to be replaced with the hostname for your linux box. That is why Nancy asked for your hostname -s result. Kevin P.S. For most people it takes at least a week to get up and running, so hang in there. --- Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ROU:BONEZ is what the instructions to input. ROU:Morphix was already configured. Am I'm making sense ? Darnn. I thought I was getting somewhere with this stuff. On 7/20/05, Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pulled down the OpenVistASemiVivAVADemo0.1.tgz form Sourceforge about 3 hours ago,, untarred/zipped and began to configure it. Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ? Answer with TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR Choose from: ROU:BONEZ ROU:Morphix You may enter a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS, if you wish Answer must be 3-30 characters in length. The value for the current account is ROU:vista Select TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS BOX-VOLUME PAIR: ROU:vista Are you adding 'ROU:vista' as a new TASKMAN SITE PARAMETERS (the 3RD)? No// (No) ?? According to the directions, I was suppoe to enter ROU:vista. The ROU:Morphix was already there. Then I tried ROU:vista thinking that the output from D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y was what I was really suppose to enter. Either option,, I'm asked if I want to add the pair. Confuesd,, On 7/20/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you run the GETENV etc, that gives you the box volume pair you need to use for your box in general, but I have a suspicion something odd is happening here. What version of VistA are you using, and when you are asked to
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
I don't think you're wrong. M2Web is a kind of M based application server. JBoss and Tomcat are open source options for Java based application servers (and both come installed on OS X out of the box, BTW). I don't know that much about M2Web, but from everything I've heard on this list, it's designed to solve basically the same problem, just using different technology. --- Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote: The arrangement is for distributed computing. You would have a web server, some middleware ex. Jboss or websphere application server and finally Vista all running on computers, now these services can be running on the same machine or separate ones. The web request gets accepted by the apache webserver and the request gets sent to the middle ware that then gets the info from vista which returns that information to you through apache. There are other players as well of course. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there has a SOAP library of some form or another). This allows us to write a rich desktop client using any platform/language, or a web-app, or a mobile client, or anything that can speak SOAP. --Todd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Todd Berman wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there has a SOAP library of some form or another). This allows us to write a rich desktop client using any platform/language, or a web-app, or a mobile client, or anything that can speak SOAP. --Todd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
Right, and in principle, an M server could be made to speak SOAP if there were interesdt in doing so. An alternative would be to use a more conventional application server and something like VistaLink for data access. This may be preferable, given that M platforms aren't particularly well suited to handling TCP/IP, and the XML implementation isn't without problems, either. --- Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there has a SOAP library of some form or another). This allows us to write a rich desktop client using any platform/language, or a web-app, or a mobile client, or anything that can speak SOAP. --Todd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing?
Vista does billing, but I believe it is one of the more VA-specific modules. It is that way, because of the eligibility rules, because limits on charges are set by Congress, and because VA cannot bill Medicare. It has also not evolved too much over the past few years, because the VA itself is planning a replacement of it, so it's been in what we call "deep maintenance" mode. Maybe Vista Office is different. I don't know. I don't know if Billing is part of the Suite, or if it has been modified by the contractor, developing Vista Office. What I can tell you is that there is a pretty robust set of routines that goes out and mines the database (nightly) for items to bill. It probably wouldn't take much to make that module less VA-specific, if that is what is needed. It's my belief that a cottage industry of add-ons and enhancements to Vista Office will spring up. Best of breed solutions will be developed, to replace some of the more VA-specific and neglected parts of Vista. We're at the inflection point right now. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Cioffi Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:25 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing? Hello all, Like many people, this morning I heard about VistA for the first time and am trying to get my head around what, exactly, it does. I understand that it handles electronic medical records. Very cool. How about the rest of the functionality needed by a multi-location practice. Specific areas of interest: -Scheduling: Can it handle the day-to-day scheduling of patients? Also, can it schedule alerts and reminders for when staff need to followup with patients? -Billing: I see it does billing, does it produce HIPAA compliant X12 837 claims? Can it handle 835 remits? -I see that the update coming in August is a Windows installer. Is Mac OS X/Linux/Unix support available, if not in the base product? I've looked at http://www.vistasoftware.org/ and http://www.hardhats.organd both talk more about the technology and not the solutions it offers. That this is available and being publicized is very cool and I think this may be a *huge* step forward for the US medical industry, I'm trying to figure out how huge. :) Thanks! Chris Cioffi -- Obviously crime pays, or there'd be no crime. -- G. Gorden Liddy
Re: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing?
VistA does have scheduling, a package it is not noted for. I have never seen it in action, but I find it difficult to believe that a package that is designed to handle a hospital cannot handle a clinic. VistA-Office is virtually certain to be ported to GTM/Linux relatively soon after its release as it has been done for other releases of VistA. See the http://www.WorldVistA.org web site. The VA itself does not submit bills directly. It sends them to a clearing house, but it does have the ability to generate the information needed by the clearing house. I believe the VA uses WebMD. There is interest in working with the FreeBee folks to extend that functionality. FreeBee is an open source billing program that currently is functioning with at least one other open source EMR. The specifics of what has been done with VistA to create the 1.0 release of VistA-Office in early August, likely as soon as 11 days from now, will be discussed at the time of the release. There may be some information that will help you here: www.daou.com/services/VistA_Office_EHR_Brochure.pdf www.himss.org/content/ files/cms_vistaofficeehr_110904.ppt http://www.vista-office.org/ On Thursday 21 July 2005 03:24 pm, Chris Cioffi wrote: Chris Cioffi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection...)
Kevin wrote: Medsphere has certainly put money into the development of this technology. And I will understand if they want a return on that investment. I am sure that they will see a tremendous return if their solution is widely adopted whether Open Source or not. Making it Open Source would help to ensure wide acceptance and adoption. Is there any way that we could develop equivalent technology in an opensource fashion? You know more about the client side of CPRS than I do. On the server side, developing an M2Web/GT.M/Apache based version of the VistA RPC broker seems like a relatively small project. I don't understand the arrangement he described. As I read it, There could be one server running VistA with an unmodified RPC broker and a separate intermediary server running a web server that receives HTTPS requests from the CPRS client and calls a SOAP middleware application that sends them on to the RPC broker and relays back the responses. Kevin --- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting. I look forward to learning more about it when it becomes available. What is the middleware? Perl, Java, other? What is the crossplatform foundation for the client? The split-server configuration is similar to the way that we configure VMACS in production systems except that we also use https for the local connections. Todd Berman wrote: On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 15:25 -0700, Jim Self wrote: This sort of approach would undoubtedly simplify many things. Since SSL is *THE* secure protocol for virtually all secure web services, I imagine that it was simply overlooked not rejected. Could you give us more specifics as to what you (medsphere) are doing and is it available as Open Source? We have implemented 2 things, a crossplatform version of CPRS that runs, and has been tested, on Windows, Linux and OSX. Our goal is to both modernize CPRS in general, and to allow us to integrate and expand on the GUI functionality offered. This application talks to VistA through a piece of middle-ware, that publishes a standards-based SOAP Web Service API instead of RPC calls. This API is available over a HTTPS connection, and the middle-ware then speaks directly to the VistA server, over a lan connection (thus isolating the VistA server from the internet-at-large, and allowing remote connections in a HIPPA compliant manner). We are in the midst of heavy discussions about how to open source the various pieces involved. --Todd --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: ...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client that provides the same feature-set as CPRS. --Todd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based Macintosh and run GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web. (p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks like the others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that context. Good idea. I will have to get one for my Mac ;) NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing?
The HIS version handled scheduling just fine in a small clinic setting( 2 Docs - 2NP 1 dentist) Thanks, Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email:Marc[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Cioffi Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:25 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing? Hello all, Like many people, this morning I heard about VistA for the first time and am trying to get my head around what, exactly, it does. I understand that it handles electronic medical records. Very cool. How about the rest of the functionality needed by a multi-location practice. Specific areas of interest: -Scheduling: Can it handle the day-to-day scheduling of patients? Also, can it schedule alerts and reminders for when staff need to followup with patients? -Billing: I see it does billing, does it produce HIPAA compliant X12 837 claims? Can it handle 835 remits? -I see that the update coming in August is a Windows installer. Is Mac OS X/Linux/Unix support available, if not in the base product? I've looked at http://www.vistasoftware.org/ and http://www.hardhats.organd both talk more about the technology and not the solutions it offers. That this is available and being publicized is very cool and I think this may be a *huge* step forward for the US medical industry, I'm trying to figure out how huge. :) Thanks! Chris Cioffi -- Obviously crime pays, or there'd be no crime. -- G. Gorden Liddy
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based Macintosh and run GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web. (p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks like the others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that context. Good idea. I will have to get one for my Mac ;) NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing?
Chris -- Comments below. -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 14:24 -0500, Chris Cioffi wrote: Hello all, Like many people, this morning I heard about VistA for the first time and am trying to get my head around what, exactly, it does. I understand that it handles electronic medical records. Very cool. How about the rest of the functionality needed by a multi-location practice. Specific areas of interest: -Scheduling: Can it handle the day-to-day scheduling of patients? Also, can it schedule alerts and reminders for when staff need to followup with patients? -Billing: I see it does billing, does it produce HIPAA compliant X12 837 claims? Can it handle 835 remits? [KSB] I'll let others who are using VistA, or who have looked at it, respond to the above. -I see that the update coming in August is a Windows installer. Is Mac OS X/Linux/Unix support available, if not in the base product? [KSB] It should be available shortly thereafter. Meanwhile, if you want to experience VistA (on which VistA Office EHR is built) on Linux, and you already have a Linux system, go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista and download an OpenVistA SemiVivA distribution; if you don't have Linux, get yourself a 512MB USB flash drive, download an OpenVistA VivA distribution (choose based on whether you have a CD drive or a DVD drive), burn it and boot it on a PC with the USB drive plugged in. Getting a VistA (on any platform) installed and booted is the easy part. It's like getting a whiteboard installed in your office, but you have to figure out how to use it. Now, it's up to you to configure it, and configuring VistA takes an interesting amount of effort. Look at http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Installation_How_To_VistA_GT.M_Linux for assistance in getting VistA installed. Look at http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Begin_Configuration_of_Vista on where to go once you have VistA installed. Of course, ask questions on this forum (and search the archives). I've looked at http://www.vistasoftware.org/ and http://www.hardhats.org and both talk more about the technology and not the solutions it offers. [KSB] Look at http://worldvista.org and also at http://www.va.gov/vdl (I think that's the URL - I am having some trouble verifying it right now). --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Now, who came up with THAT name? --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based Macintosh and run GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web. (p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks like the others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that context. Good idea. I will have to get one for my Mac ;) NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing?
VistA handles day-to-day scheduling of patients as well as alerts and reminders. Handling of X12 837 claims and 835 remits is handled in Integrated Billing patch 232 (released around October of last year). It may require extra work external to VistA however as such processing is gathered from and to VistA and aggregated centrally for VA at VAs Austin Automation Center. The VistA-Office EHR coming through CMS provides a relatively easier install for both the server and client-side on the Windows platform. The server side of VistA can also be run on Linux/Unix as well as VMS and several other major OS systems. The key is to have an ANSI M environment for VistA to run in. A number of vendor of the M environment can be found on the Hardhats web site. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Cioffi Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 12:25 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Newbie: VistA billing? Hello all, Like many people, this morning I heard about VistA for the first time and am trying to get my head around what, exactly, it does. I understand that it handles electronic medical records. Very cool. How about the rest of the functionality needed by a multi-location practice. Specific areas of interest: -Scheduling: Can it handle the day-to-day scheduling of patients? Also, can it schedule alerts and reminders for when staff need to followup with patients? -Billing: I see it does billing, does it produce HIPAA compliant X12 837 claims? Can it handle 835 remits? -I see that the update coming in August is a Windows installer. Is Mac OS X/Linux/Unix support available, if not in the base product? I've looked at http://www.vistasoftware.org/ and http://www.hardhats.organd both talk more about the technology and not the solutions it offers. That this is available and being publicized is very cool and I think this may be a *huge* step forward for the US medical industry, I'm trying to figure out how huge. :) Thanks! Chris Cioffi -- Obviously crime pays, or there'd be no crime. -- G. Gorden Liddy
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
M2Web provides a MUMPS based framework and tools for developing and running web applications and serving MUMPS data on the web in various formats including HTML, JSON (Javascript Object Notation), and XML. We (UC Davis VMTH) haven't yet used the XML format very much because the JSON format has been available much longer and it seems to be much easier to work with and more efficient for use in web applications. If a SOAP library is available in every other language, then perhaps it is time we had one in MUMPS as well and perhaps it would not be too difficult to do. Could you give a few examples of some simple SOAP requests and responses for the Vista RPC? Todd Berman wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there has a SOAP library of some form or another). This allows us to write a rich desktop client using any platform/language, or a web-app, or a mobile client, or anything that can speak SOAP. --Todd --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection..
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: ...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client that provides the same feature-set as CPRS. --Todd Todd, I certainly don't want to imply distrust for your statement, however, I'm sure most of the people in this mailing list will ask these questions themselves, so I would like to verbalize what many are thinking... Of course, the following questions can be answered by saying you actually read the CPRS code and re-implemented all of it, but in case you didn't actually do that, I'll bring out some of the capabilities of CPRS as line items. Does that feature set include making orders for medication, lab, radiology, and generic free text orders ? Does that feature set include progress notes, templated as well as free text? Does that feature set include graphing vital signs as well as their data entry? Does that feature set include reporting on lab results and demographic information about the patients? Does it include reporting on a coversheet the active problems, allergies, risks and other postings, clinical reminders, active medications, recent lab results, vital signs and appointments for the currently chosen patient? Does it include reminders for physicians about signing unsigned orders, periodic occurences such as vaccinations, diabetic foot exams, and other recurring care episodes? Does it include patient problems by name, with associated ICD-9 codes? Does it record patient care encounters with date, time, location, provider and diagnoses? Does it associate progress notes with those patient care encounters? Does it allow recording of vaccinations, and other recurring care episodes? Does it notify the doctor when drug interactions occur with allergies, foods, or other prescribed drugs? Does it do most or all of these through definitions on the server side of a VistA system? Well, I'm tired of typing and this should provide an initial checklist that you can answer to tell us more about your system I would assume you are doing this with some kind of http connection which is impressive in and of itself. As Jim Self mentioned, the HTTP RPC Broker is something that has been on our to be done plate for a while. David --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! On Thursday 21 July 2005 04:45 pm, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based Macintosh and run GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web. (p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks like the others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that context. Good idea. I will have to get one for my Mac ;) NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection..
On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:31 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: ...is it correct to infer from this and your earlier post that you have rewritten CPRS? J. Yes, it would be correct to infer that we have a crossplatform client that provides the same feature-set as CPRS. --Todd Todd, I certainly don't want to imply distrust for your statement, however, I'm sure most of the people in this mailing list will ask these questions themselves, so I would like to verbalize what many are thinking... Absolutely understandable. I am an old-hat (well, kinda old ;)) to the opensource world, so I am aware how cheap talk is. There is no offense taken here. Of course, the following questions can be answered by saying you actually read the CPRS code and re-implemented all of it, but in case you didn't actually do that, I'll bring out some of the capabilities of CPRS as line items. Does that feature set include making orders for medication, lab, radiology, and generic free text orders ? Yes. Does that feature set include progress notes, templated as well as free text? Yes. Does that feature set include graphing vital signs as well as their data entry? Yes. Does that feature set include reporting on lab results and demographic information about the patients? Yes, If I understand the question correctly. I assume you mean the functionality in the Reports tab on CPRS. Does it include reporting on a coversheet the active problems, allergies, risks and other postings, clinical reminders, active medications, recent lab results, vital signs and appointments for the currently chosen patient? Yes. Does it include reminders for physicians about signing unsigned orders, periodic occurences such as vaccinations, diabetic foot exams, and other recurring care episodes? Yes. Does it include patient problems by name, with associated ICD-9 codes? Yes. Does it record patient care encounters with date, time, location, provider and diagnoses? Yes. Does it associate progress notes with those patient care encounters? Yes. Does it allow recording of vaccinations, and other recurring care episodes? Yes. Does it notify the doctor when drug interactions occur with allergies, foods, or other prescribed drugs? Yes. Does it do most or all of these through definitions on the server side of a VistA system? Yes. Exactly the same as CPRS. Well, I'm tired of typing and this should provide an initial checklist that you can answer to tell us more about your system I would assume you are doing this with some kind of http connection which is impressive in and of itself. As Jim Self mentioned, the HTTP RPC Broker is something that has been on our to be done plate for a while. David Now, to make sure there is no misunderstanding, we are in the final stages of our initial implementation. The goal of our initial implementation is an application that operates exactly as CPRS would (well, excluding the minor bugs here and there ;)) before we start implementing and integrating new functionality. Some of these pieces are still undergoing finishing touches, but the functionality is a) all planned to be completed and b) all very close to completion. But everything listed above is either 100% functional or 99% functional. For example, we have finished reminder dialog support just recently. The transition from VistA's binary RPC broker to the SOAP broker has not been difficult, absolutely the difficulty faced so far is implementing the rest of CPRS. As you most likely know, the communication layer in CPRS is relatively simplistic. --Todd --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
GT.M for x86 GNU/Linux will not run on OS X or Yellow Dog Linux on Power PC. The reason is that GT.M is a MUMPS compiler that generates machine code. So, the M compiler on GT.M for x86 GNU/Linux would (if it ran at all) generate code for x86 which would not run on Power PC hardware. Of course, one could use an emulator such as bochs (http://bochs.sourceforge.net) or qemu (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/about.html). The easiest way for Greg to learn about GT.M would be to take a USB drive and an OpenVistA VivA live CD/DVD (or the GT.M Acculturation live CD at http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm which is basically just an OpenVistA VivA live CD which also pops up a browser on boot up with a series of exercises for an M person to learn about GT.M). -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:28 -0500, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Right now, through ADC (Apple Developer Connection), Apple is really pushing what they're calling universal binaries. I don'T quite know what the tecchnology does, but I should look into it. Of course, the PowerPC and Pentium are very different architectures. In addition, the binary format is not just a function of the hardware architecture, so you can't assume that GT.M will work when MacOS move over to the Intel platform without at least some work. --- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GT.M for x86 GNU/Linux will not run on OS X or Yellow Dog Linux on Power PC. The reason is that GT.M is a MUMPS compiler that generates machine code. So, the M compiler on GT.M for x86 GNU/Linux would (if it ran at all) generate code for x86 which would not run on Power PC hardware. Of course, one could use an emulator such as bochs (http://bochs.sourceforge.net) or qemu (http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/about.html). The easiest way for Greg to learn about GT.M would be to take a USB drive and an OpenVistA VivA live CD/DVD (or the GT.M Acculturation live CD at http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm which is basically just an OpenVistA VivA live CD which also pops up a browser on boot up with a series of exercises for an M person to learn about GT.M). -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 16:28 -0500, Nancy Anthracite wrote: Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking ==
I have installed the latest SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. While configuring I get: GTM D ^%CD %GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while zlinking %CD %GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File %CD not found Alberto Odor, MD Mexico City
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
TCP/IP handling is a total non-issue with M2Web. Most applications find their input in local variables (most generically htInput(name) ) and either simply write their response to their home device or (even simpler) set it in the local variable htReturn. M2web currently uses a CGI interface from Apache to GT.M. that is ideal for a rapidly developing system like VMACS and it seems to scale easily into the 100's of web requests per second on modest hardware - we haven't yet tested further because that is well beyond our current needs (averaging about 100,000 per day). I assume that you are referring to problems in an XML implementation currently in VistA. Do you need help in debugging that or writing something better? Gregory Woodhouse wrote: Right, and in principle, an M server could be made to speak SOAP if there were interesdt in doing so. An alternative would be to use a more conventional application server and something like VistaLink for data access. This may be preferable, given that M platforms aren't particularly well suited to handling TCP/IP, and the XML implementation isn't without problems, either. --- Todd Berman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 15:45 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: Sounds like M2Web...but I may be wrongit uses Apache.. J. The difference is that our middle-ware publishes a SOAP API that can be used by any SOAP aware client (And basically every language out there has a SOAP library of some form or another). This allows us to write a rich desktop client using any platform/language, or a web-app, or a mobile client, or anything that can speak SOAP. --Todd --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking ==
Alberto -- Let's see if you have a function ^%CD in your environment. (1) what is the result of typing the following at the GTM prompt: W $ZROU (2) What is the output of the following command executed at the Linux shell: find /usr/local -name _CD\* Thanx. -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 17:06 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: I have installed the latest SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. While configuring I get: GTM D ^%CD %GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while zlinking “%CD” %GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File %CD not found Alberto Odor, MD Mexico City --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
All I know is that you Linux users out there seem to have an inordinate fondness for the letter 'k'. I keep expecting to see programs like kat and kron -- not to mention yakk. Just remember that D ^DIK isn't the right way to do a Fileman lookup! --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS HTTPS (was CPRSchart not connection.. .)
No, I've written applications using both the SAX and DOM interfaces of the MXML parser. I actually rather like it. But there are limitations, such as being restricted to 7-bit ASCII and problems with TCP/IP streams. My application have always read and written host files, and I've found that it has worked quite well in those situations. Of course, there is much that I'd like to see that isn't there, notably XSLT and namespace support, not to mention document validation. (The last of these is more of a nice to have, though, because if a document doesn't conform to the schema, that will be discovered soon enough while parsing the document.) The ugly thing, though, is that I've basically had to create my own non-standard templates to drive the parsing process (as an alternative to coding a parser from scratch for every conceivable document type). I've been looking at solutions to this last problem (such as XOM and XML data binding), but this is really orthogonal to the issue of parsing XML in an efficient and robust fashion. --- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume that you are referring to problems in an XML implementation currently in VistA. Do you need help in debugging that or writing something better? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking ==
In Cache, you use ^%CD to change directories. I wasn't aware this command was used in GT.M. At any rate, the proper way to do this in VistA is D ^%ZUCI because this command should invoke the platform appropriate code. --- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alberto -- Let's see if you have a function ^%CD in your environment. (1) what is the result of typing the following at the GTM prompt: W $ZROU (2) What is the output of the following command executed at the Linux shell: find /usr/local -name _CD\* Thanx. -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 17:06 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: I have installed the latest SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. While configuring I get: GTM D ^%CD %GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while zlinking ´%CD¡ %GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File %CD not found Alberto Odor, MD Mexico City --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Nancy wrote: Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? Currently available versions of GT.M for Linux do not, unless perhaps there is an x86 emulator for Mac that will do it. Since Macintosh in the near future will be based on x86 and since the core of OSX is FreeBSD, GT.M should then be able to run on Mac. BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! On Thursday 21 July 2005 04:45 pm, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
I am not sure but it is suppose to be a standard implementation of linux. I am trying to get my hands on my brother-in-laws old G3 and a copy of Yelow Dog myself but things keep coming up so I don't get around to driving to MD to get it. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:20 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions All I know is that you Linux users out there seem to have an inordinate fondness for the letter 'k'. I keep expecting to see programs like kat and kron -- not to mention yakk. Just remember that D ^DIK isn't the right way to do a Fileman lookup! --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
What about FreeBSD? Does GT.M run on FreeBSD for the x86 platform? --- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy wrote: Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? Currently available versions of GT.M for Linux do not, unless perhaps there is an x86 emulator for Mac that will do it. Since Macintosh in the near future will be based on x86 and since the core of OSX is FreeBSD, GT.M should then be able to run on Mac. BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! On Thursday 21 July 2005 04:45 pm, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Good question On 7/21/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about FreeBSD? Does GT.M run on FreeBSD for the x86 platform? --- Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy wrote: Do you know if GTM runs on Yellow Dog on a Power PC? Currently available versions of GT.M for Linux do not, unless perhaps there is an x86 emulator for Mac that will do it. Since Macintosh in the near future will be based on x86 and since the core of OSX is FreeBSD, GT.M should then be able to run on Mac. BTW, is there anything like Knoppix on a CD that runs on a MAC so we can get Greg to try GTM by hook or by crook? That excuse about well, I don't know about GTM, ... ... I wanna fix that! On Thursday 21 July 2005 04:45 pm, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking ==
Alberto; The $ZROU is the System Special Variable that indicates the directories that will be searched for compiled objects or failing that, the text of the routine being accessed so it can be compiled into an object for execution. %CD will not work in GTM because that is a Cache utility. As Greg pointed out, you should stick to the generalized utilities in the ^ZOSF global and kernel tools. That is how we keep the applications platform independant. - Original Message - From: Alberto Odor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking == (1) what is the result of typing the following at the GTM prompt: W $ZROU GTM W $ZROU /home/vista/myVistA/OpenVistA/o(/home/vista/myVistA/OpenVistA/r) /usr/local/OpenVistA/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA/r) /usr/local/gtm_V5.0-00 (2) What is the output of the following command executed at the Linux shell: find /usr/local -name _CD\* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ find /usr/local -name _CD\* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ Alberto On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 17:06 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: I have installed the latest SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. While configuring I get: GTM D ^%CD %GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while zlinking %CD %GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File %CD not found Alberto Odor, MD Mexico City --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=ick ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=ick ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
I understand that after the Mormons were driven from Missouri, Brigham Young said that the western part of the state would be swept so clean that when they returned there would be not so much as a yellow dog to wag its tail. I note that the company is based in Colorado. That just might be it. Who knows? --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The guys name is Kai Staats and the link to Terra Soft solutions which is the company he founded to create yellow Dog linux. I have not found an explanation of why he choose the name but here is the link. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:55 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions Now, who came up with THAT name? --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based Macintosh and run GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web. (p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks like the others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that context. Good idea. I will have to get one for my Mac ;) NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can
RE: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking ==
Thanks, got it Alberto -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Chris Richardson Enviado el: Jueves, 21 de Julio de 2005 05:18 p.m. Para: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking == Alberto; The $ZROU is the System Special Variable that indicates the directories that will be searched for compiled objects or failing that, the text of the routine being accessed so it can be compiled into an object for execution. %CD will not work in GTM because that is a Cache utility. As Greg pointed out, you should stick to the generalized utilities in the ^ZOSF global and kernel tools. That is how we keep the applications platform independant. - Original Message - From: Alberto Odor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking == (1) what is the result of typing the following at the GTM prompt: W $ZROU GTM W $ZROU /home/vista/myVistA/OpenVistA/o(/home/vista/myVistA/OpenVistA/r) /usr/local/OpenVistA/o(/usr/local/OpenVistA/r) /usr/local/gtm_V5.0-00 (2) What is the output of the following command executed at the Linux shell: find /usr/local -name _CD\* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ find /usr/local -name _CD\* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ Alberto On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 17:06 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: I have installed the latest SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. While configuring I get: GTM D ^%CD %GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while zlinking %CD %GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File %CD not found Alberto Odor, MD Mexico City --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=ick ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=ick ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] == Error while zlinking ==
^%CD is a Cache routine. You don't need to use D ^%CD with GTM. Just skip it. On Thursday 21 July 2005 06:06 pm, Alberto Odor wrote: I have installed the latest SemiVivA in a Redhat Enterprise Linux box. While configuring I get: GTM D ^%CD %GTM-E-ZLINKFILE, Error while zlinking %CD %GTM-E-FILENOTFND, File %CD not found Alberto Odor, MD Mexico City -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
I believe Joseph was mentioned in there somewhere also. Goodness gwacious me! All these celebrities - I'm going to have to bring an autograph book to the next meeting!:-) On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page! -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story (long live the HardHats). Alberto, Odor, MD --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Could be Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions I understand that after the Mormons were driven from Missouri, Brigham Young said that the western part of the state would be swept so clean that when they returned there would be not so much as a yellow dog to wag its tail. I note that the company is based in Colorado. That just might be it. Who knows? --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The guys name is Kai Staats and the link to Terra Soft solutions which is the company he founded to create yellow Dog linux. I have not found an explanation of why he choose the name but here is the link. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:55 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions Now, who came up with THAT name? --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based Macintosh and run GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web. (p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks like the others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that context. Good idea. I will have to get one for my Mac ;) NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward
Re: [Hardhats-members] U.S. Will Offer Doctors Free Electronic Records System
The VistA demo server seemed to be down earlier, and the speculation is that it was from being swamped with business since the NY Times article. If that is true, wait until VO is released. On Thursday 21 July 2005 07:46 pm, chuck5566 wrote: I believe Joseph was mentioned in there somewhere also. Goodness gwacious me! All these celebrities - I'm going to have to bring an autograph book to the next meeting!:-) On Jul 21, 2005, at 10:31 AM, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: And there is even a picture of Kevin on the first page! -- Bhaskar On Thu, 2005-07-21 at 10:20 -0500, Alberto Odor wrote: Yes I saw it to. Kevin and Nancy are among the protagonists of the story (long live the HardHats). Alberto, Odor, MD --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Someone did a great job on the search engines. In the south we know yellow dog (democrats) well. http://www.petloveshack.com/yellowdog.html In 1928 when southern democrats left the party because their candidate was Catholic, one US Senator Tom Heflin made the statement he would vote for a yellow dog before he would vote for Herbert Hoover. Was he correct? You know the history - you decide. thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 5:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions I understand that after the Mormons were driven from Missouri, Brigham Young said that the western part of the state would be swept so clean that when they returned there would be not so much as a yellow dog to wag its tail. I note that the company is based in Colorado. That just might be it. Who knows? --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The guys name is Kai Staats and the link to Terra Soft solutions which is the company he founded to create yellow Dog linux. I have not found an explanation of why he choose the name but here is the link. http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/ Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:55 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions Now, who came up with THAT name? --- Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He could always install Yellow Dog Linux. It is compiled for the PowerPc family of chips sets. Thanks Marc Aylesworth C3I Associates AFRL/IFSE Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 525 Brooks Rd Rome, NY 13441-4505 Tel:315.330.2422 Fax:315.330.7009 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 4:45 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions In the next year or so, you should be able to upgrade to Pentium based Macintosh and run GT.M and VistA on it - and M2Web. (p.s. I have a Linux fish on my computer monitor (from ThinkGeek). It looks like the others except for the dorsal fin. I hadn't thought of the Darwin fish in that context. Good idea. I will have to get one for my Mac ;) NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! --- Jim Self Systems Architect, Lead Developer VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself) --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Greg, I believe there is a Cache for OS X available for free download from InterSystems. On Jul 21, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Yes. Now all I have to do is figure out how to install a new cache.dat and set up the mappings without the benefit of the Cache cube. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The policy of being too cautious is the greatest risk of all. --Jawaharlal Nehru On Jul 21, 2005, at 7:27 PM, chuck5566 wrote: Greg, I believe there is a Cache for OS X available for free download from InterSystems. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Would it be possible to transfer an entire gtm and OpenVista directory to a fresh linux machine after you have gotten it configured? I have 2 machines,,, one to test things out. I really hope that IF and WHEN I get this working,,, I won't have to do it anymore. On 7/21/05, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli On Jul 21, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Thurman Pedigo wrote: Someone did a great job on the search engines. In the south we know yellow dog (democrats) well. http://www.petloveshack.com/yellowdog.html In 1928 when southern democrats left the party because their candidate was Catholic, one US Senator Tom Heflin made the statement he would vote for a yellow dog before he would vote for Herbert Hoover. Was he correct? You know the history - you decide. thurman --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
Pkale; Yes, it is possible, but run down the dataset before you copy the files. You must also keep the directory structure instact and make sure you have the setups. Bhaskar, I am sure I have missed something. Now one of the gotcha's is that you have two machines, one with the correct IP address and the second, improperly defined (name an IP adressed). - Original Message - From: Pkale Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions Would it be possible to transfer an entire gtm and OpenVista directory to a fresh linux machine after you have gotten it configured? I have 2 machines,,, one to test things out. I really hope that IF and WHEN I get this working,,, I won't have to do it anymore. On 7/21/05, Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fascinating. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli On Jul 21, 2005, at 7:12 PM, Thurman Pedigo wrote: Someone did a great job on the search engines. In the south we know yellow dog (democrats) well. http://www.petloveshack.com/yellowdog.html In 1928 when southern democrats left the party because their candidate was Catholic, one US Senator Tom Heflin made the statement he would vote for a yellow dog before he would vote for Herbert Hoover. Was he correct? You know the history - you decide. thurman --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=ick ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote client
I'm trying rpctest as well as CPRSchart. If I run the client on the
physical server box, it works. This had me suspecting the network,
firewall, etc. but then I install Windump on the server and the client. The
listener is running on 9210. When I connect from rpctest or CPRSchart I see
the bytes coming into port 9210 on the server:
C:\Software\WinDumpWinDump -i
\Device\NPF_{AD37520C-74AE-4FC6-AE03-EC1965E5E83B
} tcp src port 9210
WinDump: listening on \Device\NPF_{AD37520C-74AE-4FC6-AE03-EC1965E5E83B}
00:33:07.750570 IP kigali.iscinternal.com.9210
pool-71-112-96-121.sttlwa.dsl-w
.verizon.net.50260: S 1673026542:1673026542(0) ack 1437108942 win 16384 mss
146
0,nop,nop,sackOK
00:33:07.878252 IP kigali.iscinternal.com.9210
pool-71-112-96-121.sttlwa.dsl-w
.verizon.net.50260: F 1:1(0) ack 64 win 65472
00:33:08.005950 IP kigali.iscinternal.com.9210
pool-71-112-96-121.sttlwa.dsl-w
.verizon.net.50261: S 142173067:142173067(0) ack 1984794901 win 16384 mss
1460,
nop,nop,sackOK
00:33:08.151908 IP kigali.iscinternal.com.9210
pool-71-112-96-121.sttlwa.dsl-w
.verizon.net.50261: P 1:10(9) ack 65 win 65471
And, I see a response coming back to the client's port 9210:
WinDump: listening on \Device\NPF_{6F458270-4BEC-4299-BB8D-E0D76645F74A}
21:24:47.904346 IP VISTASRV.9210 latituded600.myhome.westell.com.2444: S
29591
66591:2959166591(0) ack 2045510932 win 16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK
21:24:48.032491 IP VISTASRV.9210 latituded600.myhome.westell.com.2444: F
1:1(0
) ack 64 win 65472
21:24:48.159826 IP VISTASRV.9210 latituded600.myhome.westell.com.2445: S
40224
38762:4022438762(0) ack 3884642935 win 16384 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK
21:24:48.305010 IP VISTASRV.9210 latituded600.myhome.westell.com.2445: P
1:10(
9) ack 65 win 65471
Then, nothing else happens, the CPRSchart splash screen hangs and I have
kill the Windows task to end it. Does the fact that I got a successful
round trip mean that it's not a networking problem? I have tried this on my
DSL at home as well as a hotel network and my office network. Also, Thurman
was kind enough to try this. We get the same behavior from each client, on
any network.
I am running Symantec Anti Virus. I've tried turning it off... wouldn't it
have trapped the first round trip if it had a problem with it, anyway?
Thanks, I'll keep trying.
Renee
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 10:04 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRSchart not connection from remote client
Are you running the new broker or the old broker?
If you are running the old broker, you must open ALL the ports on the client
machine. The old broker (from the server) tasks off a sub-task which chooses
a random port to re-connect with on the client machine.
Also, you must make sure the the client machine has a routable address
from the server. (if they are both in the same IP range, even if they are
non-routable addresses, its okay. Most routers refuse to route 192.168.x.x
addresses as well as 10.x.x.x addresses. This is the Ethernet equivalent of
calling someone on the telephone, and leaving your extension number for them
to call back without telling them the main trunk line number. The server
may have an address (non-routable) but there is no possible way to use the
address to reconnect to the client.
David
(713) 870-3834
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Hi
If I run CPRSchart 1.0.5.28 on the same machine as VistA, I am able to
connect. If I run from a remote machine, the login screen never appears.
I
have a port listener on the server, and I see the client reaching it so I
think my HOSTS file (on the client) is OK. I have the same port open on
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client firewall. what else should I check?
Thank you,
Renee
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions
You can download a Cache eval (Cache PC) for Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003(Caché 5.0.2 or better), Mac OS X, Red Hat Linux, and SuSE Linux by going to http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/index.html More info about this eval is at http://www.intersystems.com/cache/downloads/cachepcfaq.html The eval never expires, but it is disabled for access across a network. If you need multiserver, etc., please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will get you what you need. Thanks, Renee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chuck5566 Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 7:28 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: OpenVista instructions Greg, I believe there is a Cache for OS X available for free download from InterSystems. On Jul 21, 2005, at 3:22 PM, Greg Woodhouse wrote: NEVER! NEVER! (Didn't you know all those Darwin fish were really Apple customers bragging about their operating system?) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once we get you to use a Linux box instead of that MAC, Greg, you will find out about these things! === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Design quality doesn't ensure success, but design failure can ensure failure. --Kent Beck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7477alloc_id=16492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration Strategies from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, informative Webcasts and more! Get everything you need to get up to speed, fast. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idt77alloc_id492op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
