Re: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)

2005-08-01 Thread Ruben Safir
Can we do somethingabout ths?



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Re: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)

2005-08-01 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Just hit the delete button. 

He will have some gentle reminders in his mailbox from Hardhat list 
members when he comes home and I am sure it will not happen again after that.

On Monday 01 August 2005 07:45 am, Ruben Safir wrote:
 Can we do somethingabout ths?

 On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:43:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I will be out of the office from Monday 8/1 through Friday 8/5.
 
 
 
  If you need immediate assistance please contact your Quatrex client
  representative.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Thank you.
 
 
 
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  Quatrex Technical Support
 
  800.446.3393 ext. 87
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] (no subject)

2005-08-01 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
Actually yesundortunately I don't have the list admin password. The 
list admin can temporarily disable responses from this email address and 
send the person and email saying they will be reinstated when they 
return to the office. Greg Kreis is traveling from what I know so may 
not be enjoying this like we are.


Joseph

Ruben Safir wrote:

Can we do somethingabout ths?



On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:43:58PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I will be out of the office from Monday 8/1 through Friday 8/5.



If you need immediate assistance please contact your Quatrex client 
representative.







Thank you.



Bill Soler

Quatrex Technical Support

800.446.3393 ext. 87

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[Hardhats-members] HArd Hats Vacation.

2005-08-01 Thread Alric O Connor
Does the Hard hats list have a vacation mode? 
This is my busiest list by far  I don't want the e-mails to overload my
mail box and start causing bounces.

A link to the instructions would be suffiecient.

Also, would someone re-send the link to the discussion forum. I need to
get on that and get OpenVistA set up on my new demo box.

Alric


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Re: [Hardhats-members] HArd Hats Vacation.

2005-08-01 Thread Dennis Ballance

Alric,

Go to the Sourceforge list page (linked at the bottom of every message) 
and set it to digest mode...then you only get one message per day with 
the accumulated traffic. Not *quite* so overwhelming. ;)


--Dennis

Alric O Connor wrote:

Does the Hard hats list have a vacation mode? 
This is my busiest list by far  I don't want the e-mails to overload my

mail box and start causing bounces.

A link to the instructions would be suffiecient.

Also, would someone re-send the link to the discussion forum. I need to
get on that and get OpenVistA set up on my new demo box.

Alric


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Re: [Hardhats-members] HArd Hats Vacation.

2005-08-01 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Unless someone knows about a vacation mode, if you want, you can unsubscribe 
temporarily and I will sign up for the daily summaries and forward them to 
you when you get back.

On Monday 01 August 2005 08:36 am, Alric O Connor wrote:
 Does the Hard hats list have a vacation mode?
 This is my busiest list by far  I don't want the e-mails to overload my
 mail box and start causing bounces.

 A link to the instructions would be suffiecient.

 Also, would someone re-send the link to the discussion forum. I need to
 get on that and get OpenVistA set up on my new demo box.

 Alric


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Re: [Hardhats-members] HArd Hats Vacation.

2005-08-01 Thread Alric O Connor


 Alric,
 
 Go to the Sourceforge list page (linked at the bottom of every message) 
Ummm, duh. Sorry for not reading entire e-mails.

Thanks

Alric


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Re: [Hardhats-members] HArd Hats Vacation.

2005-08-01 Thread Alric O Connor


 Alric,
 
 Go to the Sourceforge list page (linked at the bottom of every message) 
Ummm, duh.

Thanks

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Announcing the VistA Office EHR Discussion Forum

2005-08-01 Thread Gary Pritts
As a new person, I fully support a separate list . . . Which targets a
different audience/participant group . . . For me, evaluating the use of
VistA-Office HER the technical configuration threads are not of interest . .
. Especially since some won't be relevant with the new installation
procedures of VistA-Office EHR.  I would further suggest that -- assuming
that this new list also grows beyond control -- that some thought might be
given to multiple VistA-Office EHR forums . . . For example, a
physician-oriented list, a technical list, etc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thurman
Pedigo
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 11:47 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Announcing the VistA Office EHR Discussion
Forum


From cotton country - gin is correct. .../t

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
 Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 10:10 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Announcing the VistA Office EHR 
 Discussion Forum
 
 Actually, I thought that came from gin as in cotton gin, or is it 
 cotton
 gen ?   (Just checked.  Dictionary say gin, short for engine. )   So I
 have been doing this wrong for a long time.  I can't blame it on a 
 typo.
 
 On Sunday 31 July 2005 11:43 am, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
  Thank you Nancy for taking the time to write thisI think you 
  meant gen up the VVSO not gin up although we are probably more 
  than ready for the second, I checked the number of subscribers a 
  couple of months ago...it was about 320...it is now over 400...it 
  will be interesting to see what the number is in a couple of weeks.
 
  Joseph
 
  (not wearing my VVSO hat)
 
  Nancy Anthracite wrote:
   I just read the article David suggested we read. It must have been 
   a
 long
   talk!  Lots of food for thought and great trepidation.
  
   I am going to take a chance at making people angry and talk about 
   what has gone on behind the scenes and why the gentle attempt to 
   help split off some of the traffic anticipated for this list 
   occurred now.
  
   Greg Kreis, who is on travel and probably will not even see 
   posting,
 was
   on the horn with me about another subject and expressed his 
   concern
 that
   the list was having so many postings that it was getting hard read
 them
   all  and that when he saw the response to the NY Times article, he 
   figured when VO was released that the Hardhats would be inundated 
   with postings.
  
   It was not the inundation he was most concerned about.  It was 
   that
 those
   who came to Hardhats would be rapidly turned off by the technical 
   discussion, it would scare them off, dropping any thought of using
 VistA
   at all.  They would be a permanent loss to the community.
  
   I told him that there were plans to gin up the VVSO (VistA Vendor
 Support
   Organization) web site into something with one or more email lists 
   for users, places to donate interfaces and templates and objects 
   and the like, etc., so that he might talk about it with Maury Pepper
to see if
   the VVSO site  could help.   I suggested Maury because he is part of
 the
   VVSO team but I thought since he was probably not in as much of a
 state
   of severe sleep deprivation as the rest of the VVSO team, he might 
   be able to focus better on the problem at hand.
  
   Maury talked with Greg and invited Greg to briefly join the 
   WorldVistA board meeting conference call Thursday night to see if 
   they could come
 up
   with a plan that might work out.  When a last minute invitation 
   was extended to me as well, I joined in.
  
   I think I can summarize the discussion by saying that everyone was 
   fearful of wrecking what the Hardhats mailing list has, which I 
   will
 not
   attempt to define, but we all know it is really great stuff.  This 
   was just a best guess as to what might be done that would preserve 
   what we have and yet also provide a useful forum for new VO 
   adopters and at
 least
   some of the rest of us who straddle the fence between clinical and 
   technical.
  
   Greg felt the Hardhats began as largely a Kernel, Fileman, 
   Taskman,
 etc.
   infrastructure list so that that dividing line between 
   applications
 and
   infrastructure seemed like a reasonable one.  The plan was to 
   gently encourage folks to move the discussion of a particular 
   topic to the
 most
   appropriate list.  That was it.  Make the new list that was coming
 anyway
   and gently suggest ... nothing more ... and hope that even that is 
   not too much.
  
   I think those of us that have an interest in all aspects of VistA
 would
   do well to join the 

Re: [Hardhats-members] Hard Hats Vacation.

2005-08-01 Thread Alric O Connor
Ok, Never mind the link for OpenVista  Install instructions. I have
found the Wiki. Looks complete.

Which vesion of VistA should I install? I noted Linux  coLinix

Any preferred/eaisier to set up distros? I'm going to try SuSE first.
No need to worry about space or power, 160GB HD, 1GB memory, 64 bit
processor.

Is the Pediatrics portion included in any of the VistA installs or do I
need to add that.

Alric



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[Hardhats-members] Hl7 Setup

2005-08-01 Thread Mark Goudie
Does anyone know of a guide and where to get a HL7 install or is it
allready in open vista?
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Hl7 Setup

2005-08-01 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
There is an HL7 package included in VistA which can be used to  
support v2 interfaces (right now, 2.4), but VistA does not provide  
any direct support for HL7 v3. The package supports scheduling of  
messages for delivery and assignment of received messages to specific  
applications for processing, automatic generation of commit acks, and  
tools supporting generation of application acks. At the segment  
level, VistA HL7 currently builds and parses MSH segments for you,  
but beyond that, it provides an API allowing you to iterate through  
the message a segment at a time and another API allowing you to  
extract specific fields.  There are some strange omissions, such as  
no API to handle escape processing in strings.


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On Aug 1, 2005, at 6:49 AM, Mark Goudie wrote:


Does anyone know of a guide and where to get a HL7 install or is it
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Hl7 Setup

2005-08-01 Thread Chris Richardson
Mark;

   HL7 is already there.   Documentation on activating it can be found on
the VDL (Vista Document Library).   It is an ftp-only site.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Hl7 Setup

2005-08-01 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I should add that it includes lower layer protocol support for both  
TCP/IP (MLLP), and serial connections (HLLP). I've used TCP/IP  
exclusively, but the Lab module makes extensive use of serial links.


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On Aug 1, 2005, at 7:25 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:

There is an HL7 package included in VistA which can be used to  
support v2 interfaces (right now, 2.4), but VistA does not provide  
any direct support for HL7 v3. The package supports scheduling of  
messages for delivery and assignment of received messages to  
specific applications for processing, automatic generation of  
commit acks, and tools supporting generation of application acks.  
At the segment level, VistA HL7 currently builds and parses MSH  
segments for you, but beyond that, it provides an API allowing you  
to iterate through the message a segment at a time and another API  
allowing you to extract specific fields.  There are some strange  
omissions, such as no API to handle escape processing in strings.







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Re: [Hardhats-members] Hl7 Setup

2005-08-01 Thread Nancy Anthracite
The VistA Documentation Library is at www.va.gov/vdl and is not an ftp site.  
ftp.va.gov/vista is an ftp only site where there is the software and some 
documentation. 

On Monday 01 August 2005 10:23 am, Chris Richardson wrote:
 Mark;

HL7 is already there.   Documentation on activating it can be found on
 the VDL (Vista Document Library).   It is an ftp-only site.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Forum Mode for Hardhats NOW?

2005-08-01 Thread TyrusMaynard
I want to do some summary on this thread plus some points found on other recent 
threads that are related (disclaiming that I represent any other)


*when I initiated this topic I mistakenly thought that VistaOffice would be 
deploying the *forum* tools at sourceforge, but instead it has been setup as a 
mailman list and will have  forum in its name only
(I hope that VistaOffice will convert to *true forum* ex post facto(in 
consolation for the likelihood that hardhats will keep it's status quo))


* it is observed that increased traffic at hardhats is ominous and it is 
uncertain if a forum application will make it easier to read the volume of 
content (or  if efficiency for hardhats is substantially a readability problem).


* although some posts  favor switching to forum, others are neutral, and some 
are strongly against it, due to  simplicity of email


* many agree that email reading, and the resulting archive generated, suffers 
from too much *redundant thread history copying* with differing styles of top 
posting or bottom posting. This is automated and configured habit on our client 
tools.
(For an *good* example of someone on hardhats who posts with only judicious use 
of pasted thread copy, sort by Mike Lieman.  To see automated,redundant 
habitual thread copy, look at posting by almost anybody else (including me 
(except for this post)))


*even if hardhats ever converts entirely to a forum there are reasons why 
OpenForum/VA Forum  should not be the choice for interfacing with a variety of 
newcomer traffic (regardless of its good features or the benefit of  its related 
Vista infrastructure)


*  it is unclear whether  a  *forum*  application causes participants to be more 
conscious of presentation (I believe it does, since a forum thread reads more 
like a transcribed dialogue/multilogue and you don't have to click on links to 
see all parts of the dialogue in a single document web document)


* even if wiki is a special application where participants clearly are building 
the de facto final appearance of documents, a massive amount of content will 
continue to reside in the transactions of this hardhats community list or a 
hardhats community forum.
( therefore the community needs to periodically ask whether its accumulated 
content is well presented in final form (not just day to day use). Is it easily 
read in archive form and searchable?)


* everyone wants one dependable location for hardhats content
(so any partial migration of participants or content to any test platform will 
likely fail, there can be no gradual transition) (so why change the status quo?)


* deciding to move from topicA to another email list was easy. Deciding to 
change to another application for the entire community  (whatever the hoped for 
benefits) is not easy and can only be asserted by the formal core leaders of a 
community and those informally recognized by prevailing tradition)

( this thread is only one installment in these types of discussions over time)

Well, this is probably my final post on this thread and I hope I have been fair 
in summary and conjecture... until another installment of this topic on some 
future thread when  someone might dig this thread out of the hardhats 
archives for reference ...there is no easy reading.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Short cut for connection Windows GUI Op enVista Server

2005-08-01 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Just as a hammer doth not a toolkit make, [x]inetd is only one tool in a
toolkit.  There are also tcp wrappers, chroot jails and many more, each
of which has its appropriate use in configuring an environment to meet a
security policy or model.  One cannot make a comment about the
(in)security of [x]inetd any more than one can make a comment about the
(in)ability of a hammer to handle screws.

For what it does, [x]inetd is a suitable component in the complete
implementation of an articulated security model and policy.

-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 11:42 -0500, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
 What about allowing login using authorized keys only with limited
 privileges  
 and limiting the ports that can be accessed and the programs that can
 be run  
 on those ports.
 
 On Monday 01 August 2005 12:05 pm, Aylesworth Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
 wrote: 
  It is considered a security risk by some people because it gives
 anyone 
  that can reach the computer on the LAN you can get a remote desktop
 by 
  guessing username and passwords. It is mostly used fro local
 connections in 
  a LAN that is behind a firewall and has limited access from the
 Internet 
  usually by a firewall. 
  
  Thanks 
  
  Marc Aylesworth 
  
  C3I Associates 
  
  AFRL/IFSE 
  
  Joint Battlespace Infosphere Team 
  
  525 Brooks Rd 
  
  Rome, NY 13441-4505 
  
  Tel:315.330.2422 
  
  Fax:315.330.7009 
  
  Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  -Original Message- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Stephen 
  K. Miyasato 
  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 3:07 PM 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Short cut for connection Windows GUI
  
  
  OpenVista Server 
  
  I know very little about using [x]intetd in Linux and I thought I
 would ask 
  the Linux specialist(s) here if that may be a security risk or if
 there are 
  any downside to using this process. 
  
  Thanks very much for you input. 
  
  Stephen K. Miyasato 
  Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui 
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
  Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 7:58 AM 
  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Short cut for connection Windows GUI
  
  
   OpenVista Server 
   
   On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 12:31 -0500, Nancy Anthracite wrote: 
   There were instructions posted, but I would encourage you to wait
 on 
   trying to 
   implement that as I have been working with this system, we are
 testing 
   it out 
   using different machines and finding some tweaking is desireable.
 As 
   soon as 
   I can, I will post some instructions that will walk you through
 it. 
   However, 
   even if you do that, it has a port specified in advance. 
   
   I'll wait! 
   
   I understand that the port is specified in advance, but unlike the
 pool 
   of servers approach, deploying a service under [x]inetd means
 that you 
   can have as many servers as needed by the clients that actually
 connect. 
   You advertise one port, say, 9200, as the port for CPRS GUI
 clients to 
   connect to, and [x]inetd just fires up a new process for each
 client. 
   Furthermore, the server processes simply terminate when clients 
   disconnect, so shutting down becomes simpler. 
   
   -- Bhaskar 
   
   
   
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM error

2005-08-01 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
John --

From the Messages and Recovery Procedures manual
(http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/V44MsgRecProc/index.htm):

---
REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing database . Must be rundown on 
cluster node 

Run Time Error: This indicates that GT.M could not open database file  
because it was not properly closed on another node in the cluster.


Action: Issue the MUPIP RUNDOWN command from cluster node . A GT.M
process on that node may have been terminated by a method other than
MUPIP STOP. If MUPIP RUNDOWN with no parameters does not work, specify
the region name or file-specification with the qualifier REGION or FILE,
respectively.
---

The computer called vista2 was probably shut down when the database
file /vista/dat/g/mumps.dat was in use by a GT.M process.  Try mupip
rundown -file /vista/dat/g/mumps.dat (MUPIP RUNDOWN is described in the
chapter on MUPIP in the Admin and Ops Guide at
http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/AdminOpsUNIX/5_mup.pdf).

Please do ensure that GT.M processes are shut down cleanly before
shutting down the computer (remember to shut down Taskman / RPC broker
processes).  For automatic recovery after a system crash, please use
journaling.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 13:29 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What does this error mean?
  
 %GTM-E-REQRUNDOWN, Error accessing database /vista/dat/g/mumps.dat.
 Must be run
 down on cluster node vista2.
  
 And how does one rundown a GTM database (running on linux)?
  
 John



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RE: [Hardhats-members] Auto Signon

2005-08-01 Thread Roy Gaber








Just ensure you have the latest client
broker installed.











From:
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Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 2:14
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Auto
Signon






Hi, 

We have noticed unexpected behavior with Auto Sign On: It works in CHUI,
but CPRS GUI makes you log in each time. 

We are using RPC Broker XWB*1.1*40 with CPRS GUI 1.0.25.28 and all seems to be
normal otherwise. Is it possible this is related to XP SP2? Any
thoughts would be appreciated. 

Thanks, Steve 








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