RE: [Hardhats-members] Language standard
My copy says: -- Published by M Technology Association 1738 Elton Road, Suite 205 Silver Spring, MD 20903 (301) 431-4070 Copyright 1995 by The MUMPS Development Committee. All right reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced in any form, in an electronic retrieval system or otherwise, without the prior written permission of the publisher. Printed in the United States of America - If the publisher is MTA, and MTA is gone, then one cannot get "prior written permission" so is it an open document? If MDC owns the copyright, does permission authority revert to them? tjh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory WoodhouseSent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:09 AMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: [Hardhats-members] Language standard I tried searching for X11, X11.1 ANSI/MDC X11.1-1995, MUMPS and even programming languages at www.ansi.org with no success. Apparently, if the standard can still be purchased from ANSI, I can't find it. I tried a Google search, too, and found a link to www.iso.org, but in that case the standard (an older one) was simply listed as "withdrawn". Is the language standard still available for purchase? Where? Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Hardhats-members] Language standard
I'm forwarding a reply which apparently did not get to this list: - Original Message - From: Ed de Moel To: Maury Pepper ; hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Language standard When the MTA closed down, copyright of the ANSI standardreverted back to ISO.Any printed copies left were transferred to NEMUG, who mightstill have copies left for sale.The ISO standard (ISO-11756-1999) is still for sale from ISO.If the document appears to be "withdrawn" that would surprise me,since a vote to re-affirm the existing standard is about to be taken...The other MUMPS related standards are availlable from ISOas ISO-15681-1999 (OMI) and ISO-15682-1999 (MWAPI).Hope this helps,Ed Oh yes.. I should have added:if the ISO website indicates that the ANSIstandard is withdrawn, that is correct of course.When the MTA closed down, all MTA-owned ANSIstandards were automatically withdrawn.Ed Maury Pepper wrote: Ed, any comment? - Original Message - From: Holloway, Thomas (EDS) To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Language standard My copy says: -- Published by M Technology Association 1738 Elton Road, Suite 205 Silver Spring, MD 20903 (301) 431-4070 Copyright © 1995 by The MUMPS Development Committee. All right reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced in any form, in an electronic retrieval system or otherwise, without the prior written permission of the publisher. Printed in the United States of America - If the publisher is MTA, and MTA is gone, then one cannot get "prior written permission" so is it an open document? If MDC owns the copyright, does permission authority revert to them? tjh From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gregory WoodhouseSent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:09 AMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: [Hardhats-members] Language standardI tried searching for X11, X11.1 ANSI/MDC X11.1-1995, MUMPS and even programming languages at www.ansi.org with no success. Apparently, if the standard can still be purchased from ANSI, I can't find it. I tried a Google search, too, and found a link to www.iso.org, but in that case the standard (an older one) was simply listed as "withdrawn". Is the language standard still available for purchase? Where? Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- ** This electronic mail transmission contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by another person is strictly prohibited. **
RE: [Hardhats-members] Language standard
Thanks. --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm forwarding a reply which apparently did not get to this list: - Original Message - From: Ed de Moel To: Maury Pepper ; hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:09 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Language standard When the MTA closed down, copyright of the ANSI standard reverted back to ISO. Any printed copies left were transferred to NEMUG, who might still have copies left for sale. The ISO standard (ISO-11756-1999) is still for sale from ISO. If the document appears to be withdrawn that would surprise me, since a vote to re-affirm the existing standard is about to be taken... The other MUMPS related standards are availlable from ISO as ISO-15681-1999 (OMI) and ISO-15682-1999 (MWAPI). Hope this helps, Ed Oh yes.. I should have added: if the ISO website indicates that the ANSI standard is withdrawn, that is correct of course. When the MTA closed down, all MTA-owned ANSI standards were automatically withdrawn. Ed Maury Pepper wrote: Ed, any comment? - Original Message - From: Holloway, Thomas (EDS) To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Language standard My copy says: -- Published by M Technology Association 1738 Elton Road, Suite 205 Silver Spring, MD 20903 (301) 431-4070 Copyright © 1995 by The MUMPS Development Committee. All right reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced in any form, in an electronic retrieval system or otherwise, without the prior written permission of the publisher. Printed in the United States of America - If the publisher is MTA, and MTA is gone, then one cannot get prior written permission so is it an open document? If MDC owns the copyright, does permission authority revert to them? tjh -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 1:09 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Hardhats-members] Language standard I tried searching for X11, X11.1 ANSI/MDC X11.1-1995, MUMPS and even programming languages at www.ansi.org with no success. Apparently, if the standard can still be purchased from ANSI, I can't find it. I tried a Google search, too, and found a link to www.iso.org, but in that case the standard (an older one) was simply listed as withdrawn. Is the language standard still available for purchase? Where? Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ** This electronic mail transmission contains confidential and/or privileged information intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, distribution, copying or disclosure by another person is strictly prohibited. ** A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Oracle Space Sweepstakes Want to be the first software developer in space? Enter now for the Oracle Space Sweepstakes! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7412alloc_id=16344op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Language standard
I tried searching for X11, X11.1 ANSI/MDC X11.1-1995, MUMPS and even programming languages at www.ansi.org with no success. Apparently, if the standard can still be purchased from ANSI, I can't find it. I tried a Google search, too, and found a link to www.iso.org, but in that case the standard (an older one) was simply listed as "withdrawn".Is the language standard still available for purchase? Where? Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]