Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
I will give this a try hopefully before the week ends. Since I am working midnights It may be a day or two.. Thanks. Those instructions are easy enough to follow. --- Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Butch; KILL works the same way in Cache as it does in MUMPS. There are some settings that Cache has which may mean that you must be in the SYS environment or that whole globals cannot be deleted. If this is the case, you can easily remove teh contents of the global by this code; S N= F S N=$O(^%ZOSF(N)) Q:N= K ^%ZOSF(N) These two lines should clear everything out of the ^%ZOSF global except for the root node, ^%ZOSF, if it was created. Otherwise, K ^%ZOSF would kill off the whole global. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Butch Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill off the %ZOSF global first before running ZTMGRSET for the first time. Also be sure you map the % routines for VistA to be where you want them to be (probably NOT in %SYS or %CACHELIB). Since ZTMGRSET finds ^%ZOSF(UCI) to be defined, it's using that ... and not finding %ZOSV ... which ZTMGRSET establishes along with the %ZOSF global. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Roy, I was doing some checking on the routines listed in my system. I can readily find all the routines that do not begin with a % sign (my system list some 22,000 different routines. Where would the %routines be listed because they are not in the same namespace as the other routines? If I should look for the % routines, can you be a little explicit on where and how to look?? Helps us newbies...:) The other thing I noticed when I was reading the instructions - I was looking at picture that goes with item #34. In that screen shot, I can see at the bottom something that says : Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, saved as %ZOSV. When I click on Explorer and then load all the routines in the NAMESPACE - VISTA, I can click on routine ZOSVONT. When I do, I see that the first line of the routine says the following: %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 I am a little confused? I have yet to do any renaming or commenting out like nancy has suggested, I just want to see if the Cache or VISTA builds are bad before preceeding too far. Any advice.. === Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you map the % routines? The error you are receiving is indicating that the routine %ZOSV is missing. Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:34 PM Nancy wrote: All the new instructions were to be is what is there on Hardhats now plus the changes I suggested you do in the email to the ZU routine. I didn't want to add it unless you confirmed it worked OK. It seems that Mark Street found out the ?ZISF routine was missing as I recall, for his GTM install, so it may be missing for yours as well, but it may not be needed or something. I do not have Cache installed as I just got a new Windows machine, so I am going to post this out for someone who has done this to comment as I am still back working on a much older version with the CPRS/WIne issue. So, please fellow Hardhats, can you please give him some help here? = On Sunday 24 April 2005 07:22 pm, Butch Jones wrote: Nancy, Do you have a copy of the newer instructions that you will post on Hardhats? If so, care to send them to me and lets see if I can follow them to get an install up and running? I have begun my install and have gotten down to #34 of the old install notes and have run into the same problem. I don't want to change any of the routines today.. Was hoping to see the new instructions that you say you have. here is what I got when I attempted to perform step #34.. == USERZN VISTA VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
Hi, Unless you are using the Cache Object stuff... You should think of Cache as being mostly 1995 Standard M[UMPS]. So to kill off a global name MYGBL, you: K ^MYGBL or KILL ^MYGBL just as you would in ANSI Standard M[UMPS]. Cheers, --ldl On 4/26/05, Doctor Bones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell you right now... it isn't Greek I think it is sanscrit. Manolis On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 22:21 -0700, Butch Jones wrote: Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id5hix ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
Books?!? Try this great site. http://www.jacquardsystems.com/Examples/ Kevin --- Butch Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sanscrit?? Is this some ancient cuneiform writing??? LOL.:) I'll get the hang of this sooner or later. Its just been a while since I actually pulled out my old Mumps book and read up. Everything is so vague right now, but it is coming back slowly. :) --- Doctor Bones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell you right now... it isn't Greek I think it is sanscrit. Manolis On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 22:21 -0700, Butch Jones wrote: Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Tell us your software development plans! Take this survey and enter to win a one-year sub to SourceForge.net Plus IDC's 2005 look-ahead and a copy of this survey Click here to start! http://www.idcswdc.com/cgi-bin/survey?id=105hix ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
Chris, Looks like it worked. I was able to enter the Cache Terminal and then enter the VISTA namespace and enter the SET and FOR statement. I then ran the ZTMGRSET but received an additional error as noted below. USERzn vista VISTAs N= VISTAF S N=$O(^%ZOSF(N)) Q:N= K ^%ZOSF(N) VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0 **34,36,69,94,121,127,136,191,275** HELLO! I exist to assist you in correctly initializing the current account. Which MUMPS system should I install? 1 = VAX DSM(V6), VAX DSM(V7) 2 = MSM-PC/PLUS, MSM for NT or UNIX 3 = OpenM for NT, Cache/NT, Cache/VMS 4 = Datatree, DTM-PC, DT-MAX 5 = MVX,ISM VAX 6 = ISM (UNIX, Open VMS) 7 = GT.M (VMS) 8 = GT.M (Unix) System: 3 I entered this I will now rename a group of routines specific to your operating system. Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, ZL @FROM ZS @TO ^ PROTECT^ZOSVONTGetting this now??? VISTA 8x2 == When I open up Cache Explorer and search for the ZOSVONT routine in the VISTA namespace, I am able to find it. When I open the routine in Cache Studio, this is what the first couple of lines look like: * %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 ;;8.0;KERNEL;**34,94,107,118,136,215,293,284**;Jul 10, 1995 ACTJ() ;# Active jobs N %,V,Y S V=$$VERSION() I V5 D Q Y . S %=0 F Y=0:1 S %=$ZJ(%) Q:%= S Y=$system.License.LUConsumed() Q Y AVJ() ;# available jobs I am having trouble understanding why the routine name in Cache Explorer does not match the routine name on the first line (ZOSVONT vs. %ZOSV)? I thought convention dictated that the routine name (File name) should match the routine line tag on the first line? Any additional help?? Thanks, Butch Jones --- Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Butch; KILL works the same way in Cache as it does in MUMPS. There are some settings that Cache has which may mean that you must be in the SYS environment or that whole globals cannot be deleted. If this is the case, you can easily remove teh contents of the global by this code; S N= F S N=$O(^%ZOSF(N)) Q:N= K ^%ZOSF(N) These two lines should clear everything out of the ^%ZOSF global except for the root node, ^%ZOSF, if it was created. Otherwise, K ^%ZOSF would kill off the whole global. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Butch Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill off the %ZOSF global first before running ZTMGRSET for the first time. Also be sure you map the % routines for VistA to be where you want them to be (probably NOT in %SYS or %CACHELIB). Since ZTMGRSET finds ^%ZOSF(UCI) to be defined, it's using that ... and not finding %ZOSV ... which ZTMGRSET establishes along with the %ZOSF global. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Roy, I was doing some checking on the routines listed in my system. I can readily find all the routines that do not begin with a % sign (my system list some 22,000 different routines. Where would the %routines be listed because they are not in the same namespace as the other routines? If I should look for the % routines, can you be a little explicit on where and how to look?? Helps us newbies...:) The other thing I noticed when I was reading the instructions - I was looking at picture that goes with item #34. In that screen shot, I can see at the bottom something that says : Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, saved as %ZOSV. When I click on Explorer and then load all the routines in the NAMESPACE - VISTA, I can click on routine ZOSVONT. When I do, I see that the first line of the routine says the following: %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 I am a little confused? I have yet to do any renaming or commenting out like nancy has suggested, I just want to see if the Cache or VISTA builds are bad before preceeding too far. Any advice
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
You should find that the value of TO is %ZOSV, which is the name under which the ZTMGRSET routine is trying to save the previously named routine ZOSVONT. What I believe you still need to do is establish the proper mapping for the routines that begin with %. Here are the relevant suggested mappings (you may find it any time at ftp://ftp.va.gov/vista/software/readme.html): In the Cache Configuration Manager, open the VISTA namespace, then open the Global Mapping and Routine Mapping sections and add the following respectively: Globals: %Z* location to VISTA %*, etc., to wherever Cache already maps other % globals Routines: %DT* location to VISTA %RCR to VISTA %XU* to VISTA %ZIS* to VISTA %ZO* to VISTA %ZT* to VISTA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:45 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Chris, Looks like it worked. I was able to enter the Cache Terminal and then enter the VISTA namespace and enter the SET and FOR statement. I then ran the ZTMGRSET but received an additional error as noted below. USERzn vista VISTAs N= VISTAF S N=$O(^%ZOSF(N)) Q:N= K ^%ZOSF(N) VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0 **34,36,69,94,121,127,136,191,275** HELLO! I exist to assist you in correctly initializing the current account. Which MUMPS system should I install? 1 = VAX DSM(V6), VAX DSM(V7) 2 = MSM-PC/PLUS, MSM for NT or UNIX 3 = OpenM for NT, Cache/NT, Cache/VMS 4 = Datatree, DTM-PC, DT-MAX 5 = MVX,ISM VAX 6 = ISM (UNIX, Open VMS) 7 = GT.M (VMS) 8 = GT.M (Unix) System: 3 I entered this I will now rename a group of routines specific to your operating system. Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, ZL @FROM ZS @TO ^ PROTECT^ZOSVONTGetting this now??? VISTA 8x2 == When I open up Cache Explorer and search for the ZOSVONT routine in the VISTA namespace, I am able to find it. When I open the routine in Cache Studio, this is what the first couple of lines look like: * %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 ;;8.0;KERNEL;**34,94,107,118,136,215,293,284**;Jul 10, 1995 ACTJ() ;# Active jobs N %,V,Y S V=$$VERSION() I V5 D Q Y . S %=0 F Y=0:1 S %=$ZJ(%) Q:%= S Y=$system.License.LUConsumed() Q Y AVJ() ;# available jobs I am having trouble understanding why the routine name in Cache Explorer does not match the routine name on the first line (ZOSVONT vs. %ZOSV)? I thought convention dictated that the routine name (File name) should match the routine line tag on the first line? Any additional help?? Thanks, Butch Jones --- Chris Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Butch; KILL works the same way in Cache as it does in MUMPS. There are some settings that Cache has which may mean that you must be in the SYS environment or that whole globals cannot be deleted. If this is the case, you can easily remove teh contents of the global by this code; S N= F S N=$O(^%ZOSF(N)) Q:N= K ^%ZOSF(N) These two lines should clear everything out of the ^%ZOSF global except for the root node, ^%ZOSF, if it was created. Otherwise, K ^%ZOSF would kill off the whole global. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Butch Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill off the %ZOSF global first before running ZTMGRSET for the first time. Also be sure you map the % routines for VistA to be where you want them to be (probably NOT in %SYS or %CACHELIB). Since ZTMGRSET finds ^%ZOSF(UCI) to be defined, it's using that ... and not finding %ZOSV ... which ZTMGRSET establishes along with the %ZOSF global. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Roy, I was doing some checking on the routines listed in my system. I can readily find all the routines that do not begin with a % sign (my system list some 22,000 different routines. Where would the %routines be listed because they are not in the same namespace
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
OK gang, I was able to get my install started with some great help from Intersystems. Whomever entered the Help ticket request, I thank you very much. I received a note from Thomas Salander of Intersystems, and it gave me some instructions that are below. It looks like the biggest problem was that I had not entered anything under the routine mapping of the configuration manager. ++ Dear Mr. Jones: Here are a couple suggestions that may help you with your install of VistA on Cache. To enable the killing of a global at the name level, add or change the following line in your .CPF file: [Language] GlobalKillEnabled=1 You can also change this through the Cache Cube: Configuration Manager - Advanced - ObjectScript - Global Kill Enabled Please note that this will not change for terminal session already open. It will take affect for new terminal sessions going forward. For the %* routines and globals, I suggest you add the following mappings in your .CPF file (I'm assuming your namespace is called VISTA): [NspMap.VISTA] GloMap_1=%Z*,VISTA,VISTA,0,-1, RouMap_1=%DT*,ALL,VISTA RouMap_2=%RCR,ALL,VISTA RouMap_3=%XU*,ALL,VISTA RouMap_4=%ZIS*,ALL,VISTA RouMap_5=%ZO*,ALL,VISTA RouMap_6=%ZT*,ALL,VISTA RouMap_7=%ZV*,ALL,VISTA You can also change this through the Cache Cube: Configuration Manager - Namespaces - VISTA - Global Mapping and Routine Mapping These changes should allow the ZTMGRSET program to run properly and will get all the % routines specific to VistA to reside in the same dataset. Please let me know if this helps. Sincerely, Thomas Salander InterSystems Corporation +++ All looks good and I have been able to get through item# 45 of the Installation instructions tonight. Nancy, I will be sending you a separate email later after I complete my install and let you know of the glitches that I ran into. Stay tuned, as it may be next week before I get to complete the whole thing. This weekend we are heading to Columbus, OH have to have some RR Thanks to all for the suggestions and help.. Butch Jones ^ --- Butch Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill off the %ZOSF global first before running ZTMGRSET for the first time. Also be sure you map the % routines for VistA to be where you want them to be (probably NOT in %SYS or %CACHELIB). Since ZTMGRSET finds ^%ZOSF(UCI) to be defined, it's using that ... and not finding %ZOSV ... which ZTMGRSET establishes along with the %ZOSF global. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Roy, I was doing some checking on the routines listed in my system. I can readily find all the routines that do not begin with a % sign (my system list some 22,000 different routines. Where would the %routines be listed because they are not in the same namespace as the other routines? If I should look for the % routines, can you be a little explicit on where and how to look?? Helps us newbies...:) The other thing I noticed when I was reading the instructions - I was looking at picture that goes with item #34. In that screen shot, I can see at the bottom something that says : Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, saved as %ZOSV. When I click on Explorer and then load all the routines in the NAMESPACE - VISTA, I can click on routine ZOSVONT. When I do, I see that the first line of the routine says the following: %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 I am a little confused? I have yet to do any renaming or commenting out like nancy has suggested, I just want to see if the Cache or VISTA builds are bad before preceeding too far. Any advice.. === Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you map the % routines? The error you are receiving is indicating that the routine %ZOSV is missing. Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:34 PM Nancy wrote: All the new instructions were to be is what is there on Hardhats now plus the changes I suggested you do in the email to the ZU routine. I didn't want to add it unless you confirmed it worked OK. It seems that Mark Street found out the ?ZISF routine was missing as I
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
The percent routines are the _* routines when you are working on a GTM system and as I recall, that is how they exported out of Cache as well. Hunt for them using a wild card in front of them in Studio to see what you find like *ZOSV* or something like that. I also think that you cannot see the % routines unless you have a licensed version of Cache as I recall. This is all just a bit fuzzy in my memory, so forgive the mistakes, please. It has been quite a while since I did anything with exporting routines and all of that. On Monday 25 April 2005 03:59 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: Kill off the %ZOSF global first before running ZTMGRSET for the first time. Also be sure you map the % routines for VistA to be where you want them to be (probably NOT in %SYS or %CACHELIB). Since ZTMGRSET finds ^%ZOSF(UCI) to be defined, it's using that ... and not finding %ZOSV ... which ZTMGRSET establishes along with the %ZOSF global. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Roy, I was doing some checking on the routines listed in my system. I can readily find all the routines that do not begin with a % sign (my system list some 22,000 different routines. Where would the %routines be listed because they are not in the same namespace as the other routines? If I should look for the % routines, can you be a little explicit on where and how to look?? Helps us newbies...:) The other thing I noticed when I was reading the instructions - I was looking at picture that goes with item #34. In that screen shot, I can see at the bottom something that says : Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, saved as %ZOSV. When I click on Explorer and then load all the routines in the NAMESPACE - VISTA, I can click on routine ZOSVONT. When I do, I see that the first line of the routine says the following: %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 I am a little confused? I have yet to do any renaming or commenting out like nancy has suggested, I just want to see if the Cache or VISTA builds are bad before preceeding too far. Any advice.. === Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you map the % routines? The error you are receiving is indicating that the routine %ZOSV is missing. Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:34 PM Nancy wrote: All the new instructions were to be is what is there on Hardhats now plus the changes I suggested you do in the email to the ZU routine. I didn't want to add it unless you confirmed it worked OK. It seems that Mark Street found out the ?ZISF routine was missing as I recall, for his GTM install, so it may be missing for yours as well, but it may not be needed or something. I do not have Cache installed as I just got a new Windows machine, so I am going to post this out for someone who has done this to comment as I am still back working on a much older version with the CPRS/WIne issue. So, please fellow Hardhats, can you please give him some help here? = On Sunday 24 April 2005 07:22 pm, Butch Jones wrote: Nancy, Do you have a copy of the newer instructions that you will post on Hardhats? If so, care to send them to me and lets see if I can follow them to get an install up and running? I have begun my install and have gotten down to #34 of the old install notes and have run into the same problem. I don't want to change any of the routines today.. Was hoping to see the new instructions that you say you have. here is what I got when I attempted to perform step #34.. == USERZN VISTA VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0 **34,36,69,94,121,127,136,191,275** HELLO! I exist to assist you in correctly initializing the current account. D UCI^%ZOSV ^ NOROUTINEA+2^ZTMGRSET VISTA 3x2 === I am running Cache version 5.0.13.5607.1 Vista (CACHE.DAT dated 2/27/2005) --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill off the %ZOSF global first before running ZTMGRSET for the first time. Also be sure you map the % routines for VistA to be where you want them to be (probably NOT in %SYS or %CACHELIB). Since ZTMGRSET finds ^%ZOSF(UCI) to be defined, it's using that ... and not finding %ZOSV ... which ZTMGRSET establishes along with the %ZOSF global. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Roy, I was doing some checking on the routines listed in my system. I can readily find all the routines that do not begin with a % sign (my system list some 22,000 different routines. Where would the %routines be listed because they are not in the same namespace as the other routines? If I should look for the % routines, can you be a little explicit on where and how to look?? Helps us newbies...:) The other thing I noticed when I was reading the instructions - I was looking at picture that goes with item #34. In that screen shot, I can see at the bottom something that says : Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, saved as %ZOSV. When I click on Explorer and then load all the routines in the NAMESPACE - VISTA, I can click on routine ZOSVONT. When I do, I see that the first line of the routine says the following: %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 I am a little confused? I have yet to do any renaming or commenting out like nancy has suggested, I just want to see if the Cache or VISTA builds are bad before preceeding too far. Any advice.. === Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you map the % routines? The error you are receiving is indicating that the routine %ZOSV is missing. Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:34 PM Nancy wrote: All the new instructions were to be is what is there on Hardhats now plus the changes I suggested you do in the email to the ZU routine. I didn't want to add it unless you confirmed it worked OK. It seems that Mark Street found out the ?ZISF routine was missing as I recall, for his GTM install, so it may be missing for yours as well, but it may not be needed or something. I do not have Cache installed as I just got a new Windows machine, so I am going to post this out for someone who has done this to comment as I am still back working on a much older version with the CPRS/WIne issue. So, please fellow Hardhats, can you please give him some help here? = On Sunday 24 April 2005 07:22 pm, Butch Jones wrote: Nancy, Do you have a copy of the newer instructions that you will post on Hardhats? If so, care to send them to me and lets see if I can follow them to get an install up and running? I have begun my install and have gotten down to #34 of the old install notes and have run into the same problem. I don't want to change any of the routines today.. Was hoping to see the new instructions that you say you have. here is what I got when I attempted to perform step #34.. == USERZN VISTA VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0 **34,36,69,94,121,127,136,191,275** HELLO! I exist to assist you in correctly initializing the current account. D UCI^%ZOSV ^ NOROUTINEA+2^ZTMGRSET VISTA 3x2 === I am running Cache version 5.0.13.5607.1 Vista (CACHE.DAT dated 2/27/2005) --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
Butch; KILL works the same way in Cache as it does in MUMPS. There are some settings that Cache has which may mean that you must be in the SYS environment or that whole globals cannot be deleted. If this is the case, you can easily remove teh contents of the global by this code; S N= F S N=$O(^%ZOSF(N)) Q:N= K ^%ZOSF(N) These two lines should clear everything out of the ^%ZOSF global except for the root node, ^%ZOSF, if it was created. Otherwise, K ^%ZOSF would kill off the whole global. Hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Butch Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:21 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Cameron, You say to kill off the global, can you be a little more detailed on how this is done on CACHE. Us newbies have limited knowledge and most of this translates into Greek. --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kill off the %ZOSF global first before running ZTMGRSET for the first time. Also be sure you map the % routines for VistA to be where you want them to be (probably NOT in %SYS or %CACHELIB). Since ZTMGRSET finds ^%ZOSF(UCI) to be defined, it's using that ... and not finding %ZOSV ... which ZTMGRSET establishes along with the %ZOSF global. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Jones Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 5:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista Roy, I was doing some checking on the routines listed in my system. I can readily find all the routines that do not begin with a % sign (my system list some 22,000 different routines. Where would the %routines be listed because they are not in the same namespace as the other routines? If I should look for the % routines, can you be a little explicit on where and how to look?? Helps us newbies...:) The other thing I noticed when I was reading the instructions - I was looking at picture that goes with item #34. In that screen shot, I can see at the bottom something that says : Routine: ZOSVONT Loaded, saved as %ZOSV. When I click on Explorer and then load all the routines in the NAMESPACE - VISTA, I can click on routine ZOSVONT. When I do, I see that the first line of the routine says the following: %ZOSV ;SFISC/AC - $View commands for Open M for NT. ;09/22/2004 11:56 I am a little confused? I have yet to do any renaming or commenting out like nancy has suggested, I just want to see if the Cache or VISTA builds are bad before preceeding too far. Any advice.. === Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you map the % routines? The error you are receiving is indicating that the routine %ZOSV is missing. Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:34 PM Nancy wrote: All the new instructions were to be is what is there on Hardhats now plus the changes I suggested you do in the email to the ZU routine. I didn't want to add it unless you confirmed it worked OK. It seems that Mark Street found out the ?ZISF routine was missing as I recall, for his GTM install, so it may be missing for yours as well, but it may not be needed or something. I do not have Cache installed as I just got a new Windows machine, so I am going to post this out for someone who has done this to comment as I am still back working on a much older version with the CPRS/WIne issue. So, please fellow Hardhats, can you please give him some help here? = On Sunday 24 April 2005 07:22 pm, Butch Jones wrote: Nancy, Do you have a copy of the newer instructions that you will post on Hardhats? If so, care to send them to me and lets see if I can follow them to get an install up and running? I have begun my install and have gotten down to #34 of the old install notes and have run into the same problem. I don't want to change any of the routines today.. Was hoping to see the new instructions that you say you have. here is what I got when I attempted to perform step #34.. == USERZN VISTA VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0 **34,36,69,94,121,127,136,191,275** HELLO! I exist to assist you in correctly initializing the current account. D UCI^%ZOSV ^ NOROUTINEA+2^ZTMGRSET VISTA 3x2 === I am running Cache version 5.0.13.5607.1 Vista (CACHE.DAT dated 2/27/2005
[Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
All the new instructions were to be is what is there on Hardhats now plus the changes I suggested you do in the email to the ZU routine. I didn't want to add it unless you confirmed it worked OK. It seems that Mark Street found out the ?ZISF routine was missing as I recall, for his GTM install, so it may be missing for yours as well, but it may not be needed or something. I do not have Cache installed as I just got a new Windows machine, so I am going to post this out for someone who has done this to comment as I am still back working on a much older version with the CPRS/WIne issue. So, please fellow Hardhats, can you please give him some help here? On Sunday 24 April 2005 07:22 pm, you wrote: Nancy, Do you have a copy of the newer instructions that you will post on Hardhats? If so, care to send them to me and lets see if I can follow them to get an install up and running? I have begun my install and have gotten down to #34 of the old install notes and have run into the same problem. I don't want to change any of the routines today.. Was hoping to see the new instructions that you say you have. here is what I got when I attempted to perform step #34.. == USERZN VISTA VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0 **34,36,69,94,121,127,136,191,275** HELLO! I exist to assist you in correctly initializing the current account. D UCI^%ZOSV\ ^ | Not sure what all of this means, but it is what I received NOROUTINEA+2^ZTMGRSET |when I attempted to run ZTMGRSET. VISTA 3x2 / === I am running Cache version 5.0.13.5607.1 Vista (CACHE.DAT dated 2/27/2005) -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista
Did you map the % routines? The error you are receiving is indicating that the routine %ZOSV is missing. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 8:34 PM To: Butch Jones; Hardhats Subject: [Hardhats-members] Re: Trying new install of Cache and Vista All the new instructions were to be is what is there on Hardhats now plus the changes I suggested you do in the email to the ZU routine. I didn't want to add it unless you confirmed it worked OK. It seems that Mark Street found out the ?ZISF routine was missing as I recall, for his GTM install, so it may be missing for yours as well, but it may not be needed or something. I do not have Cache installed as I just got a new Windows machine, so I am going to post this out for someone who has done this to comment as I am still back working on a much older version with the CPRS/WIne issue. So, please fellow Hardhats, can you please give him some help here? On Sunday 24 April 2005 07:22 pm, you wrote: Nancy, Do you have a copy of the newer instructions that you will post on Hardhats? If so, care to send them to me and lets see if I can follow them to get an install up and running? I have begun my install and have gotten down to #34 of the old install notes and have run into the same problem. I don't want to change any of the routines today.. Was hoping to see the new instructions that you say you have. here is what I got when I attempted to perform step #34.. == USERZN VISTA VISTAD ^ZTMGRSET ZTMGRSET Version 8.0 **34,36,69,94,121,127,136,191,275** HELLO! I exist to assist you in correctly initializing the current account. D UCI^%ZOSV\ ^ | Not sure what all of this means, but it is what I received NOROUTINEA+2^ZTMGRSET |when I attempted to run ZTMGRSET. VISTA 3x2 / === I am running Cache version 5.0.13.5607.1 Vista (CACHE.DAT dated 2/27/2005) -- Nancy Anthracite --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595alloc_id=14396op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
