[Hardhats-members] Time for a Metaphor
After reflecting on the Linux/distribution rhetoric some. a simple metaphor is in order for the model we are assembling here with VistA. I have opened the box, emptied all the contents on the table, quickly scanned the directions, assembled the parts and pieces together into a somewhat workable system. It is time for my metaphor. 1. The computer operating system - VAX, UNIX, Linux, Windoze, etc. = A petri dish 2. The database - Cache, GT.M = the blood ager medium for the organisms to grow. 3. VistA, objects, routines, applications - mumps code = the organisms that grow and flourish on and in the medium. As we can see, the OS is merely a container for the medium and the organisms. Which is why it really doesn't matter which distribution of Linux one uses. If you have a consultant or contract with anyone who is experienced or proficient with UNIX/Linux it is not that difficult to get a petri dish out of the packaging. The OS is just a petri dish. ; ) Feel free to clarify or add to this metaphor Now, back to the mumps textbook. This stuff is strange. no wonder you guys have been working with it for 20 years. : | -- Mark Street, RHCE http://www.oswizards.com -- Key fingerprint = 3949 39E4 6317 7C3C 023E 2B1F 6FB3 06E7 D109 56C0 GPG key http://www.oswizards.com/pubkey.asc --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Time for a Metaphor
Couldn't you have a Pot, Good Soil and Beautiful Flowers instead of a petri dish!!! ;-) On Friday 27 May 2005 02:46 pm, Mark Street wrote: After reflecting on the Linux/distribution rhetoric some. a simple metaphor is in order for the model we are assembling here with VistA. I have opened the box, emptied all the contents on the table, quickly scanned the directions, assembled the parts and pieces together into a somewhat workable system. It is time for my metaphor. 1. The computer operating system - VAX, UNIX, Linux, Windoze, etc. = A petri dish 2. The database - Cache, GT.M = the blood ager medium for the organisms to grow. 3. VistA, objects, routines, applications - mumps code = the organisms that grow and flourish on and in the medium. As we can see, the OS is merely a container for the medium and the organisms. Which is why it really doesn't matter which distribution of Linux one uses. If you have a consultant or contract with anyone who is experienced or proficient with UNIX/Linux it is not that difficult to get a petri dish out of the packaging. The OS is just a petri dish. ; ) Feel free to clarify or add to this metaphor Now, back to the mumps textbook. This stuff is strange. no wonder you guys have been working with it for 20 years. : | -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Time for a Metaphor
The problem I have with the metaphor is that the OS isn't a passive thing like a pot or petri dish, it does useful work (though you may not be ware of what it is doing -- scheduling, memory management, etc.) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't you have a Pot, Good Soil and Beautiful Flowers instead of a petri dish!!! ;-) On Friday 27 May 2005 02:46 pm, Mark Street wrote: After reflecting on the Linux/distribution rhetoric some. a simple metaphor is in order for the model we are assembling here with VistA. I have opened the box, emptied all the contents on the table, quickly scanned the directions, assembled the parts and pieces together into a somewhat workable system. It is time for my metaphor. 1. The computer operating system - VAX, UNIX, Linux, Windoze, etc. = A petri dish 2. The database - Cache, GT.M = the blood ager medium for the organisms to grow. 3. VistA, objects, routines, applications - mumps code = the organisms that grow and flourish on and in the medium. As we can see, the OS is merely a container for the medium and the organisms. Which is why it really doesn't matter which distribution of Linux one uses. If you have a consultant or contract with anyone who is experienced or proficient with UNIX/Linux it is not that difficult to get a petri dish out of the packaging. The OS is just a petri dish. ; ) Feel free to clarify or add to this metaphor Now, back to the mumps textbook. This stuff is strange. no wonder you guys have been working with it for 20 years. : | -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Time for a Metaphor
Oh and Hello I'm Ruben Safir, and I was hoping to help with some of the coding and the website. I'm the President of NYLXS, and seasoned programmer, ex-VA Pharmacist, and a practicing Pharmacist. Sorry - I meant to say Hello First :) Ruben On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 20:35, Greg Woodhouse wrote: The problem I have with the metaphor is that the OS isn't a passive thing like a pot or petri dish, it does useful work (though you may not be ware of what it is doing -- scheduling, memory management, etc.) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't you have a Pot, Good Soil and Beautiful Flowers instead of a petri dish!!! ;-) On Friday 27 May 2005 02:46 pm, Mark Street wrote: After reflecting on the Linux/distribution rhetoric some. a simple metaphor is in order for the model we are assembling here with VistA. I have opened the box, emptied all the contents on the table, quickly scanned the directions, assembled the parts and pieces together into a somewhat workable system. It is time for my metaphor. 1. The computer operating system - VAX, UNIX, Linux, Windoze, etc. = A petri dish 2. The database - Cache, GT.M = the blood ager medium for the organisms to grow. 3. VistA, objects, routines, applications - mumps code = the organisms that grow and flourish on and in the medium. As we can see, the OS is merely a container for the medium and the organisms. Which is why it really doesn't matter which distribution of Linux one uses. If you have a consultant or contract with anyone who is experienced or proficient with UNIX/Linux it is not that difficult to get a petri dish out of the packaging. The OS is just a petri dish. ; ) Feel free to clarify or add to this metaphor Now, back to the mumps textbook. This stuff is strange. no wonder you guys have been working with it for 20 years. : | -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Time for a Metaphor
Well, you gave us some fun even it you didn't introduce yourself first. Please tell us about NYLXS. I suggest you just hang around a bit until you find something that catches your fancy. What sorts of things have you done or do you like to do? Perhaps we can tell you some of the sorts of things that are likely to be up your alley. On Friday 27 May 2005 10:39 pm, Ruben Safir wrote: Oh and Hello I'm Ruben Safir, and I was hoping to help with some of the coding and the website. I'm the President of NYLXS, and seasoned programmer, ex-VA Pharmacist, and a practicing Pharmacist. Sorry - I meant to say Hello First :) Ruben On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 20:35, Greg Woodhouse wrote: The problem I have with the metaphor is that the OS isn't a passive thing like a pot or petri dish, it does useful work (though you may not be ware of what it is doing -- scheduling, memory management, etc.) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't you have a Pot, Good Soil and Beautiful Flowers instead of a petri dish!!! ;-) On Friday 27 May 2005 02:46 pm, Mark Street wrote: After reflecting on the Linux/distribution rhetoric some. a simple metaphor is in order for the model we are assembling here with VistA. I have opened the box, emptied all the contents on the table, quickly scanned the directions, assembled the parts and pieces together into a somewhat workable system. It is time for my metaphor. 1. The computer operating system - VAX, UNIX, Linux, Windoze, etc. = A petri dish 2. The database - Cache, GT.M = the blood ager medium for the organisms to grow. 3. VistA, objects, routines, applications - mumps code = the organisms that grow and flourish on and in the medium. As we can see, the OS is merely a container for the medium and the organisms. Which is why it really doesn't matter which distribution of Linux one uses. If you have a consultant or contract with anyone who is experienced or proficient with UNIX/Linux it is not that difficult to get a petri dish out of the packaging. The OS is just a petri dish. ; ) Feel free to clarify or add to this metaphor Now, back to the mumps textbook. This stuff is strange. no wonder you guys have been working with it for 20 years. : | -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Time for a Metaphor
Welcome, Rubin; There are a pretty good number of VA and former-VA folks on this list. You are in good company. Your Linux experience is greatly appreciated. As you watch for a while, you will see a lot of interesting topics go by and some interesting projects in the making. Jump in anywhere you feel comfortable. Best wishes; Chris Richardson - Original Message - From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Time for a Metaphor Well, you gave us some fun even it you didn't introduce yourself first. Please tell us about NYLXS. I suggest you just hang around a bit until you find something that catches your fancy. What sorts of things have you done or do you like to do? Perhaps we can tell you some of the sorts of things that are likely to be up your alley. On Friday 27 May 2005 10:39 pm, Ruben Safir wrote: Oh and Hello I'm Ruben Safir, and I was hoping to help with some of the coding and the website. I'm the President of NYLXS, and seasoned programmer, ex-VA Pharmacist, and a practicing Pharmacist. Sorry - I meant to say Hello First :) Ruben On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 20:35, Greg Woodhouse wrote: The problem I have with the metaphor is that the OS isn't a passive thing like a pot or petri dish, it does useful work (though you may not be ware of what it is doing -- scheduling, memory management, etc.) --- Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't you have a Pot, Good Soil and Beautiful Flowers instead of a petri dish!!! ;-) On Friday 27 May 2005 02:46 pm, Mark Street wrote: After reflecting on the Linux/distribution rhetoric some. a simple metaphor is in order for the model we are assembling here with VistA. I have opened the box, emptied all the contents on the table, quickly scanned the directions, assembled the parts and pieces together into a somewhat workable system. It is time for my metaphor. 1. The computer operating system - VAX, UNIX, Linux, Windoze, etc. = A petri dish 2. The database - Cache, GT.M = the blood ager medium for the organisms to grow. 3. VistA, objects, routines, applications - mumps code = the organisms that grow and flourish on and in the medium. As we can see, the OS is merely a container for the medium and the organisms. Which is why it really doesn't matter which distribution of Linux one uses. If you have a consultant or contract with anyone who is experienced or proficient with UNIX/Linux it is not that difficult to get a petri dish out of the packaging. The OS is just a petri dish. ; ) Feel free to clarify or add to this metaphor Now, back to the mumps textbook. This stuff is strange. no wonder you guys have been working with it for 20 years. : | -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite
