Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM prompt weirdness with FreeBSD
If GT.M works at all on OS X, I would expect it the compiler to run unchanged. This is because while GT.M generates object files in a standard format, it uses its own dynamic loader. In Ismet's case, I suspect that the 1h is coming from some mismatch having to do with terminal characteristics on the server side (e.g., libncurses). I wonder if something like stty sane before going into GT.M might make a difference. GNU screen (http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/) may be a way to deal with the occasional connection freezing or dropping. Regards -- Bhaskar - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM prompt weirdness with FreeBSD
--- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If GT.M works at all on OS X, I would expect it the compiler to run unchanged. This is because while GT.M generates object files in a standard format, it uses its own dynamic loader. Maybe. Obviously, habing your own linker makes a big difference, but what is not obvious to me (due to my ignorance of Mach) is that the operating system interfaces will be compatible, even if the high-level system calls (fork, dup, sbrk, etc.) I'll have to check the developer documentation when I get a chance and see what I can learn. My guess, though, is that if your run BSD over Mach, the fact that schuduling (say) is handled by the microkernel would not be visible at the VM level, and if thazt's the case Bhaskar may well be right here. (I'm certainly no expert.) In Ismet's case, I suspect that the 1h is coming from some mismatch having to do with terminal characteristics on the server side (e.g., libncurses). I wonder if something like stty sane before going into GT.M might make a difference. I'm sure you're right. The thread forked but there's been no exec (new subject line) as yet. :-) === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mathematics is the science of patterns. --Lynn Arthur Steen, 1988 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM prompt weirdness with FreeBSD
In Ismet's case, I suspect that the 1h is coming from some mismatch having to do with terminal characteristics on the server side (e.g., libncurses). I wonder if something like stty sane before going into GT.M might make a difference. I tried that but you still see the GTM1h displayed under stock FreeBSD 6.1, i386. GNU screen (http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/) may be a way to deal with the occasional connection freezing or dropping. That is a great idea! Then I could just resume the session later on a different terminal. Of course I would still like to know if this behavior, i.e. the ssh lockups that I see from console sessions, is hardware (switch-network adapter-cabling, bus, heat etc..) or software related. (send or recv issues or the myriad of possible adjustments to the application or network layers) As time allows I will try to figure it out and report back. Overall I really like to use Debian-Stable as much as possible (the rapidity and package management of security updates being the star feature) however when it comes to networking features and internals and overall system documentation and cohesiveness FreeBSD wins. To really understand something about networks or security I often I will read the FreeBSD manual or better yet the FreeBSD and OpenBSD man pages, which are an invaluable resource. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi -- Ismet B. Kursunoglu, MD, FCCP Medical Director Alaska Clinic, LLC 3750 E. Country Field Circle, STE B Wasilla, Alaska 99654-6659 [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice (907)357-7240 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM prompt weirdness with FreeBSD
We have been using Putty for our remote sites with no problems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ismet Kursunoglu Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 9:32 AM To: Hardhats Subject: [Hardhats-members] GTM prompt weirdness with FreeBSD I see a '1h' displayed immediately following the GTM prompt when I run HUI OpenVistA 4.1 with the Linux compatibility layer under FreeBSD 6.1 for x86. No windowing system is running - i.e. just from the plain console screen via an ssh session I see this; GTM1h I tried various shells with no change in the behavior. I also noticed the same thing when I ssh into and log into our HUI/Debian/GTM/VistA server from a FreeBSD terminal. The '1h' will disappear after commands such as 'D ^XUP' are run and then recalled using the history facility. (i.e. up-arrow). This doesn't happen under Debian/Sarge, NetBSD or OpenBSD. I don't have a Mac around to check OS X. However under Debian/Sarge the history facility doesn't work. The reason I am interested in using FreeBSD is that I have noticed rare lock ups over ssh-terminal sessions with stock Debian/Sarge terminals. And so far in testing this doesn't appear to be the case under FreeBSD. I admire and like the engineering, cohesiveness and rock solid stability that FreeBSD offers so that is why I started testing it for possible production. I like the idea of using just plain terminals for many reasons but the system lock ups as mentioned above are going to be troublesome. I haven't experienced any frozen screens/lock-ups over ssh under KDE using Konsole or xterms with Debian/Sarge - which is also perfectly stable but much more resource intensive. We could certainly run lightweight window managers as an alternative, but for some users I would prefer that all they see is the plain old terminal. Thanks. -- Ismet B. Kursunoglu, MD, FCCP Medical Director Alaska Clinic, LLC 3750 E. Country Field Circle, STE B Wasilla, Alaska 99654-6659 [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice (907)357-7240 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM prompt weirdness with FreeBSD
Could that be part of an escape code sending a terminal control sequence? Have you tried putty? Does it do the same thing? Can you tell us more about the linux compatibility layer for FreeBSD? I wonder how that would work with OS X? Kevin On 10/9/06, Ismet Kursunoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see a '1h' displayed immediately following the GTM prompt when I run HUI OpenVistA 4.1 with the Linux compatibility layer under FreeBSD 6.1 for x86. No windowing system is running - i.e. just from the plain console screen via an ssh session I see this; GTM1h ... - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM prompt weirdness with FreeBSD
Could that be part of an escape code sending a terminal control sequence? Have you tried putty? Does it do the same thing? If it is related to the terminal then why the different behavior with C-VT100 series of terminal emulation from Debian to FreeBSD? My understanding that putty is a terminal emulator for MS Windows only. I have not seen this with putty. Can you tell us more about the linux compatibility layer for FreeBSD? I wonder how that would work with OS X? My very limited understanding is that it works as a loadable kernel module (called the linux KLD for Kernel LoaDable object) which then allows you to access various Linux libraries and applications and run them. You might have to manually link some libraries for things to work but in general it claims to be able to run over 90% of Linux applications. On 10/9/06, Ismet Kursunoglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see a '1h' displayed immediately following the GTM prompt when I run HUI OpenVistA 4.1 with the Linux compatibility layer under FreeBSD 6.1 for x86. No windowing system is running - i.e. just from the plain console screen via an ssh session I see this; GTM1h ... -- Ismet B. Kursunoglu, MD, FCCP Medical Director Alaska Clinic, LLC 3750 E. Country Field Circle, STE B Wasilla, Alaska 99654-6659 [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice (907)357-7240 - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
