[HH] Cubieboard update

2013-06-01 Thread Tom Metro
The Cubieboard was mentioned here last October:
http://www.mail-archive.com/hardwarehacking@blu.org/msg00528.html

back when this Indiegogo funded project was about halfway to reaching
their goal. Apparently they've since met and exceeded the funding
threshold, and the boards are now available for purchase for $50:

http://www.element14.com/community/community/knode/single-board_computers/blog/2013/05/03/cubieboard-offers-hackers-another-low-cost-high-performance-arm-board-option

  This board, designed by Tom Cubie and friends who almost doubled up on
  their crowd-funding goal last year, offers DIYers a completely
  hackable board capable of running Android, Ubuntu, and other Linux
  distributions.
  [...]
  To begin the list of specs, the Cubieboard contains a Cortex-A8 ARM
  processor operating at 1 GHz speed with a Mali400 OpenGL ES GPU.
  [...]
  The Cubieboard comes with 1080P HDMI output support, 10/100M Ethernet
  capability, 2 USB hosts, 1 microSD slot (with SDHC support), 1 SATA
  connection, an IR [receiver] interface, and a 2x48 extend pin for
  external headers.
  [...]
  Some of the team's Cubieboard project suggestions include: an Android
  TV multimedia powerhouse, a home network file server, a lightweight
  Linux desktop, and a network accessible home automation device.


It distinguishes itself from most SBC by including a SATA port, and
apparently one that actually works, as they ship it with a SATA cable,
and the unboxing video at the above pages shows it being hooked up to a
laptop drive.

They do answer the question of whether the SATA port supports port
multipliers:
http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/FAQ#Does_the_Cubieboard_support_SATA_port_multipliers_and_what_is_the_max_limit_of_a_SATA_hard_disk_drive.3F

and the answer is no. So not exactly a cost effective NAS, unless you
only need one drive.

The Indiegogo page claimed it was an open design, but didn't back it up
with anything. I see their site now has links to the board schematic:
http://cubieboard.org/download/

software tools and OS images can be found on the same page. But I don't
see board layout files.

Manufacturer:
http://cubieboard.org/

Store:
https://cubieboard.myshopify.com/products/cubieboard-1gb

A $30 expansion board is also available from another vendor:
http://www.iotllc.com/joomla/index.php/what-is/72-what-is-a-baseboard

which adds VGA, LCD, and touch screen connectors, voltage regulator,
audio amp, and easier access to the Cubieboard's I/O pins.

 -Tom
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[HH] Cubieboard

2012-10-26 Thread Tom Metro
Cubieboard is a Kickstarter project by a Chinese company for a Raspberry
Pi-class single board computer.
http://www.indiegogo.com/cubieboard

Specs:

1G ARM cortex-A8 processor, NEON, VFPv3, 256KB L2 cache
Mali400, OpenGL ES GPU
1GB DDR3 @480MHz
HDMI 1080p Output
10/100M Ethernet
4GB Nand Flash
2 USB Host, 1 micro SD slot, 1 SATA, 1 ir
96 extend pin including I2C, SPI, RGB/LVDS, CSI/TS, FM-IN, ADC,
CVBS, VGA, SPDIF-OUT, R-TP..
Running Android, Ubuntu and other Linux distributions

Aside fro the I/Os, I'm not seeing much here that distinguishes it from
RPi (which recently boosted its RAM to 512 MB).

It's described as an open ARM box but they never elaborate on what
they mean by open.

One of the listed uses is:
  NAS - Cubieboard can drive 2.5 inch hard disk, you can use it as a
  home network file server.

If it is port multiplier compatible, then it might be useful. (Or per an
earlier thread, use it as an AOE-to-SATA converter.)

If you infer pricing from the perks, it looks like it'll sell for
around $50.

This is one of the most bare-bones Kickstarter pages I've seen. Not much
info. They've raised a bit less than half of their $50K goal. The
campaign ends December 7.

 -Tom
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Re: [HH] Cubieboard

2012-10-26 Thread Bennett Marks
Big differences:
  MALI graphics vs. Broadcom
  No CSI or DSI
  SATA connector
  1Gbyte memory vs. 512 Mbyte
  4Gb NAND Flash
  Better/More extender pinouts
  uSD vs. SD
  1Ghz vs. 700Mhz

$59 vs. $35

It'll all come down to if they can deliver, and what kind of support the
dev community generates.

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Tom Metro tmetro+hhack...@gmail.comwrote:

 Cubieboard is a Kickstarter project by a Chinese company for a Raspberry
 Pi-class single board computer.
 http://www.indiegogo.com/cubieboard

 Specs:

 1G ARM cortex-A8 processor, NEON, VFPv3, 256KB L2 cache
 Mali400, OpenGL ES GPU
 1GB DDR3 @480MHz
 HDMI 1080p Output
 10/100M Ethernet
 4GB Nand Flash
 2 USB Host, 1 micro SD slot, 1 SATA, 1 ir
 96 extend pin including I2C, SPI, RGB/LVDS, CSI/TS, FM-IN, ADC,
 CVBS, VGA, SPDIF-OUT, R-TP..
 Running Android, Ubuntu and other Linux distributions

 Aside fro the I/Os, I'm not seeing much here that distinguishes it from
 RPi (which recently boosted its RAM to 512 MB).

 It's described as an open ARM box but they never elaborate on what
 they mean by open.

 One of the listed uses is:
   NAS - Cubieboard can drive 2.5 inch hard disk, you can use it as a
   home network file server.

 If it is port multiplier compatible, then it might be useful. (Or per an
 earlier thread, use it as an AOE-to-SATA converter.)

 If you infer pricing from the perks, it looks like it'll sell for
 around $50.

 This is one of the most bare-bones Kickstarter pages I've seen. Not much
 info. They've raised a bit less than half of their $50K goal. The
 campaign ends December 7.

  -Tom
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Re: [HH] Cubieboard

2012-10-26 Thread Tom Metro
Bennett Marks wrote:
Tom Metro wrote:
 http://www.indiegogo.com/cubieboard
 
 Specs:
 
 1G ARM cortex-A8 processor, NEON, VFPv3, 256KB L2 cache
 Mali400, OpenGL ES GPU
 1GB DDR3 @480MHz
 HDMI 1080p Output
 10/100M Ethernet
 4GB Nand Flash
 2 USB Host, 1 micro SD slot, 1 SATA, 1 ir
 96 extend pin including I2C, SPI, RGB/LVDS, CSI/TS, FM-IN, ADC,
 CVBS, VGA, SPDIF-OUT, R-TP..
 Running Android, Ubuntu and other Linux distributions
 
 Aside fro the I/Os, I'm not seeing much here that distinguishes it from
 RPi (which recently boosted its RAM to 512 MB).

 Big differences:
   SATA connector
   Better/More extender pinouts
 $59 vs. $35

I mentioned those.


   1Gbyte memory vs. 512 Mbyte
   1Ghz vs. 700Mhz

I seem to have glossed over those. Thanks for pointing them out. Those
are notable differences.


   MALI graphics vs. Broadcom

What do you think is the practical consequence of that? I don't know
enough about either GPU to know how they compare. I'm guessing the Mali
GPU might be more openly documented. Perhaps has an open source driver?


   No CSI or DSI

What's that?


   4Gb NAND Flash

Good point, though built-in Flash just adds complication for hobby-scale
use. Now you've got to go through some hoops to load code onto it.
Cheaper in volume, but for one-off projects easier to load code onto an
SD card. And never a problem with bricking a unit.


   uSD vs. SD

Not much practical difference there. The smaller cards are a bit
trickier to handle and usually need an adapter to be mounted on your
desktop/laptop.


 It'll all come down to if they can deliver, and what kind of support the
 dev community generates.

The Kickstarter campaign so far doesn't suggest it is going to go over
big, but we'll see.

I'm sure there will be a half dozen others like this trying to ride on
the coattails of the RPi's success. Eventually one of them will hit on
the right combo of features and price point, while offering better
openness than the RPi.

 -Tom

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