Re: [Haskell-cafe] What is the maturity of Haskell Web Frameworks
On 6/2/08 10:21 AM, Don Stewart wrote: aditya_siram: I am building a web-app that, in broad strokes, allows a leader to assign tasks to team members and allows team members to accept/reject/pick tasks that they want to do. I really like Haskell and I would like to use it to implement the solution. Are frameworks like Happs ready? Not so much in terms of documentation, but in functionality and stability. HAppS is nice (see hpaste.org for example, which is nice and simple, and has been running for over a year). Another nice option in Haskell is using something like HStringTemplate or the xhtml combinators with fastcgi hooked into GHC's concurrency mechanisms. If you're interested in the background of rolling your own web stuff, I like Paul Brown's description of building perpubplat here: http://mult.ifario.us/t/blog HTH, Keith ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANN] Next Bay FP Meeting: Bryan O'Sullivan on Concurrent and multicore programming in Haskell
On 5/2/08 8:50 PM, Vimal wrote: On 03/05/2008, Keith Fahlgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Our next BayFP meeting will be this Thursday, May 8th, 2008 at 7:30pm. We'll feature Bryan O'Sullivan on Concurrent and multicore programming in Haskell. Bryan is a co-author of the upcoming O'Reilly book Real Cant wait for the video! How long before the video comes up on the website? The video is now available: http://www.bayfp.org/blog/2008/05/17/video-and-slides-from-bryan-o%e2%80%99sullivans-talk/ HTH, Keith ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] [ANN] Next Bay FP Meeting: Bryan O'Sullivan on Concurrent and multicore programming in Haskell
On 5/2/08 8:50 PM, Vimal wrote: On 03/05/2008, Keith Fahlgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Our next BayFP meeting will be this Thursday, May 8th, 2008 at 7:30pm. We'll feature Bryan O'Sullivan on Concurrent and multicore programming in Haskell. Bryan is a co-author of the upcoming O'Reilly book Real Cant wait for the video! How long before the video comes up on the website? We've typically been able to get videos up after about a week. Keith ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] [ANN] Next Bay FP Meeting: Bryan O'Sullivan on Concurrent and multicore programming in Haskell
Hi, Our next BayFP meeting will be this Thursday, May 8th, 2008 at 7:30pm. We'll feature Bryan O'Sullivan on Concurrent and multicore programming in Haskell. Bryan is a co-author of the upcoming O'Reilly book Real World Haskell [http://book.realworldhaskell.org/]. (among all sorts of other snazzy endeavors) Talking about multicore is all the rage, so I expect folks to bring a lot of people! :-) Details here: http://www.bayfp.org/blog/2008/05/02/may-8th-meeting-bryan-osullivan-on-concurrent-and-multicore-programming-in-haskell/ Many thanks to Alex Payne at Twitter for hosting this month's meeting. They've been very supportive of BayFP and we appreciate their continued hosting. Twitter's address is: 164 South Park St San Francisco, CA 94107 Alex says: It's a building with a dark green door. People can just come on in and walk to their right to a large conference room. We'll start at 7:30pm. As always, this is a free event. If you want pizza, please select which type here (and bring a few $$s): Pizza Selection Form [http://bayfp.wufoo.com/forms/bryan-osullivan-bay-fp/] Keith ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] haddock as a markdown preprocessor
On 2/21/08 3:57 PM, Duncan Coutts wrote: Consequently there is no support in Cabal etc for those kinds of documentation. GHC, Cabal and c2hs amongst others use docbook but it's a horrible format to write and the tools to process it are very finicky (we apparently have to hard code paths to specific versions of xslt stylesheets). Hi, DocBook authoring tools have progressed tremendously in the past few years, and I disagree that the tools to process it are very finicky. If there are specific questions about making DocBook more palatable for GHC, Cabal, c2hs, others, please send them to me directly or the docbook-apps list: http://www.docbook.org/help Thanks, Keith ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] User groups meeting all over the world
On 2/7/08 3:21 PM, PR Stanley wrote: I will only consider events where they serve free tea and sandwiches, plus if there's a landing pad for the chopper nearby. :-) BayFP's next one _might_ be at a place rhyming with Loogle[1], so that'd be organic tea and I'm certain there's a landing pad HTH, Keith 1. We're still working on the location ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] hxt memory useage
On 1/26/08 3:43 AM, Ketil Malde wrote: I think a good approach would be a TagSoup-like (SAX-like) lazy ByteString parser, with more advanced features (checking for well-formedness, building a tree structure, validation, namespace support..) layered on top. Perhaps a more modern approach would be StAX[1]-like rather than SAX-like? In either case, streaming, non-DOM. I am concerned by the number of people expressing willingness to abandon namespace support, but perhaps I'm being too much of a purist These days, there is a lot of XML around, so solid and performant XML processing could be another step in missing our stated mission goal of avoiding success at all costs. Agreed. Keith 1. http://stax.codehaus.org/ http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2003/09/17/stax.html ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] [ANN] Wadler talk in San Francisco on Jan 9, 2008
Hi all, Philip Wadler will be in San Francisco for POPL '08 so the Bay Area Functional Programmers have asked him to reprise his ICFP '07 talk Well-typed programs can’t be blamed. He's been good enough to set us up with a proper room in the ACM conference hotel. The meeting will take place in the Stanford Room, The Stanford Court Hotel, San Francisco at 7:30pm on Wednesday, January 9th, 2008. Please watch http://groups.google.com/group/bayfp or http://www.bayfp.org/blog/ for more details and pass this along to others in the area that might be interested. Thanks, Keith ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] expanded standard lib
On 11/20/07 7:35 AM, Thomas Schilling wrote: On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 16:00 +0100, Ketil Malde wrote: Thomas Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can all to easily imagine a situation where any documentation is riddled with a plethora of notes, questions, answers, comments etc, with nobody to clean up the mess every now and then. For user-edited documentation, a wiki seems a much better fit - where each author make some effort to leave pages as self-contained consistent documents. Hm. The GHC user's guide currently is generated from a DocBook (XML-based) language, but when I extended the Cabal documentation (which also is DocBook) I wasn't very impressed by DocBook. It isn't particularly well-documented Hi, [Disclosure: I'm a large part of O'Reilly's re-adoption of DocBook internally and a member of the OASIS DocBook SubCommittee for Publishers] I'm particularly surprised by this last sentence on the lack of documentation, as the DocBook standard has a definitive, comprehensive, freely available manual at http://www.docbook.org/tdg/en/html/docbook.html that I've always found very usable. Were there particular things that you missed? and editing raw XML is never fun, even with the right Emacs mode. One could hope that a standard format would come with many tools, but I didn't get the impression that the tools are great, either. The state of GUI XML editors has advanced significantly over the last year with the continued work on both XXE (http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/) and oXygen's latest release (http://www.oxygenxml.com/docbook_editor.html), for example. That said, there are not as many tools for editing DocBook XML as HTML, for example. Using DocBook, however, has some nice advantages. For example, the possibility to generate documentation in different formats. Something more easily accessible (from the internet) would certainly be much more convenient, though. It would be nice, though, to preserve semantic markup. Aren't there some usable web-based WYSIWYG editors that edit XML rather than HTML? Not that I've found. I'd be delighted to hear about possibilities. Most web-based attempts start with the desire of writing in a plain-text wiki language and getting to XML. These seem to always fail on complex markup (tables, nested lists, code with internal markup). Do we need more features from DocBook for GHC or the libraries, or both? I'd be delighted to help anyone interested in extending GHC's docs to allow the sort of flexible commenting system Simon has outlined. Please don't hesitate to contact me directly. Regards, Keith ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] ANN: SF Bay Area Functional Programmers Group
Hi All, I'd like to announce the formation of the Bay Area Functional Programmers group. This group is for anyone using or interested in functional programming and functional programming languages, particularly strongly typed languages such as Haskell, OCaml, SML, etc. The first meeting will be Thursday, September 13th at 7:30pm somewhere in San Francisco. Please join the mailing list at http://groups.google.com/group/bayfp and suggest a location. The initial meeting will be a casual pizza and beer get together, although going forward we'd like to also include speakers, reading and discussion of technical papers, and some hands on coding. Future announcements and the location of the first meeting will be posted to the BayFP mailing list. More information will be available on the website: http://bayfp.org/. Keith (+ Mike Wells) ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
