Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-17 Thread Manuel M T Chakravarty
 1) Who's interested

Interest, yes, but time is a very scarce resource these days...

 2) What dates are good

Midyear break is 29 Jun to 18 Jul at UNSW, but I'm away for a week in that time 
period.

 3) What projects people want to work on

To be honest, I'd probably be in and out and, on a weekend, have one or two 
kids running around me.  So, working with and maybe coaching some people on 
code I'm familiar with is probably the most realistic.  That could be 
Accelerate, GHC, or DPH.

 4) Where we can host this

As Ben said, we should be able to organise a room at UNSW.  Exactly how we get 
people on the network here (esp on a weekend), I'm less sure, but we could try 
to organise some guest accounts on the wireless or wired net — unless people 
want to bring 3G dongles or iPhones to tether.

 OK, so we have a fair number of people indicating interest... so which
 weekend would be preferred?
[..]
 Or should we take this to the wiki rather than the mailing list?

I'd suggest to do the planning of details on a wiki page.

Manuel

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Ivan Miljenovic wrote:

 Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why
 should all those northerners have all the fun)?

Agreed!

  I'm thinking about
 organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.

I'm a working programmer who has no idea when the university semesters
start and end. Please don't leave me out :-).

 * LLVM if David Terei comes

I'm definitely interested in that one. I spent some time last night
starting to package LLVM and its dependencies for Debian.

 So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of:
 1) Who's interested
 2) What dates are good

As the father of a school age child, I have some rather high demands
on my 4 weeks of annual leave. For me, it would be advantageous if
this could be arranged to overlap a weekend or better yet a long
weekend.

 3) What projects people want to work on

Ben's DDC compiler is another interesting project people could work on.

Cheers,
Erik
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Ivan Lazar Miljenovic
Erik de Castro Lopo mle...@mega-nerd.com writes:
 I'm a working programmer who has no idea when the university semesters
 start and end. Please don't leave me out :-).

[snip]

 As the father of a school age child, I have some rather high demands
 on my 4 weeks of annual leave. For me, it would be advantageous if
 this could be arranged to overlap a weekend or better yet a long
 weekend.

At ANU, the holidays are from the 27th June to the 18th July; I have no
idea about UNSW, etc.  The plan was to have it on a weekend, though
there seems to be a dearth of public holidays during that time period.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Alex Mason

 
 * A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for
 people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex
 Mason is interested in this)
 * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.;
 this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff)
 * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along
 * LLVM if David Terei comes
 
 I'd suggest focusing on core Haskell infrastructure, like compilers and 
 tools, rather than individual libraries -- though it all depends on who wants 
 to come along.

I'm not interested too much in organising what we will get done until people 
get there. We'll spend an hour or two discussing which projects people would 
like to work on, and then probably split off into groups of like minded people.

The projects mentioned above are just ones that Ivan and I could think of, to 
give others ideas of the sorts of things they could work on. If people have new 
projects they want to start and have input from others on design and coding, 
then that's fine by me. If they want to hack GHC and make it twice as fast, 
then they're more than encouraged to do so!

Basically, we're just aiming to get a bunch of like minded people together, who 
want to hack on projects with some other people, possibly with the authors of 
the projects (for example, I might want help to work on the Accelerate library 
that Manuel, Gabriele and Sean have been working on, and being able to talk to 
them directly to find out how the code is all laid out and organised would be 
much much easier than trying to do the same thing over IRC for example.)
 
 So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of:
 1) Who's interested
 2) What dates are good
 3) What projects people want to work on
 4) Where we can host this
 
 You'll also want to consider how a proposed OzHaskell might align and/or 
 combine with other events such as SAPLING[1] and fp-syd[2]. There is also the 
 ICFP programming contest in a few months that many people will be interested 
 in...

The more people we can get in touch with, the better, we'd like to hear from 
all these groups, if for no better reason than to get the word out that such a 
thing might be happening... maybe, and to help gauge interest. The more people 
that know, the more pressure we can bring upon ourselves to get something 
organised.

I was planning on forwarding this onto the FP-Syd list, but maybe I could ask 
you to do that Ben? These mailing list things are before my time, and I 
wouldn't have a clue what to do -_-


 Hosting is not a problem. If people want to come to Sydney then I'm sure we 
 can organise a room at UNSW. 

We were kind of hoping that you or Manuel would say something like that ;)

Not sure what more to say, other than if you're in Australia, and like Haskell, 
we'd really _really_ love to meet you. 

Cheers,
-- Alex Mason

 Ben.
 
 
 [1] http://plrg.ics.mq.edu.au/projects/show/sapling
 [2] http://groups.google.com/group/fp-syd
 [3] http://www.icfpconference.org/contest.html
 
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Ben Lippmeier

On 16/03/2010, at 10:45 PM, Alex Mason wrote:

 I'd suggest focusing on core Haskell infrastructure, like compilers and 
 tools, rather than individual libraries -- though it all depends on who 
 wants to come along.
 
 Basically, we're just aiming to get a bunch of like minded people together, 
 who want to hack on projects with some other people, possibly with the 
 authors of the projects (for example, I might want help to work on the 
 Accelerate library that Manuel, Gabriele and Sean have been working on, and 
 being able to talk to them directly to find out how the code is all laid out 
 and organised would be much much easier than trying to do the same thing over 
 IRC for example.)

I meant that with these systems there's more of a chance that people have past 
experience with them, so you can hit the ground running, but it's only a 
suggestion.


 You'll also want to consider how a proposed OzHaskell might align and/or 
 combine with other events such as SAPLING[1] and fp-syd[2]. There is also 
 the ICFP programming contest in a few months that many people will be 
 interested in...
 
 The more people we can get in touch with, the better, we'd like to hear from 
 all these groups, if for no better reason than to get the word out that such 
 a thing might be happening... maybe, and to help gauge interest. The more 
 people that know, the more pressure we can bring upon ourselves to get 
 something organised.
 
 I was planning on forwarding this onto the FP-Syd list, but maybe I could ask 
 you to do that Ben? These mailing list things are before my time, and I 
 wouldn't have a clue what to do -_-

You seem to have worked out haskell-cafe, so it can't be that hard!

Ben.


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Wotton


On 16/03/2010, at 4:28 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:


Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why
should all those northerners have all the fun)?  I'm thinking about
organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.

There was a previous consideration a few years back to have an
OzHaskell group (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/OzHaskell) but
nothing seems to have eventuated out of it.

In terms of projects, here are some ideas:

* A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for
people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex
Mason is interested in this)
* Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.;
this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff)
* Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along


I'm keen. Would be be elated to have some help on Hubris, but happy to  
hack on other stuff too.

Like Erik, weekends are probably better.

mark
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Alex Mason

 
 Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why
 should all those northerners have all the fun)?  I'm thinking about
 organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.
 
 There was a previous consideration a few years back to have an
 OzHaskell group (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/OzHaskell) but
 nothing seems to have eventuated out of it.
 
 In terms of projects, here are some ideas:
 
 * A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for
 people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex
 Mason is interested in this)
 * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.;
 this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff)
 * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along
 
 I'm keen. Would be be elated to have some help on Hubris, but happy to hack 
 on other stuff too.
 Like Erik, weekends are probably better.

Yeah we're aiming for a weekend, possibly a Friday-Sunday meet (so that people 
who are free on Friday can get started early, and those who have work etc. can 
just be there for the weekend. If there was a nicely placed long weekend coming 
up, we'd aim for that, but there isn't :(

Also, it might be a good time to bring some interested rubyists along, and show 
them what we can get done in Haskell, and show them why they might want to use 
Hubris.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Bernie Pope
On 16 March 2010 16:28, Ivan Miljenovic ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com wrote:
 Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why
 should all those northerners have all the fun)?  I'm thinking about
 organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.

Yes, I am interested.

It would have to be overlap a weekend for me due to work commitments.

I'll advertise it in the Melbourne FPU when more details are available.

Cheers,
Bernie.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-16 Thread Hamish Mackenzie
On 16 Mar 2010, at 18:28, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:

 So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of:
 1) Who's interested

I am.

 2) What dates are good

A weekend would be best for me.

 3) What projects people want to work on

Leksah.

 4) Where we can host this

I suppose Wellington is out of the question, so anywhere in Aus is fine with me.

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[Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-15 Thread Ivan Miljenovic
Would other Australians be interested in having our own Hackathon (why
should all those northerners have all the fun)?  I'm thinking about
organising it to be in the July break between university semesters.

There was a previous consideration a few years back to have an
OzHaskell group (http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/OzHaskell) but
nothing seems to have eventuated out of it.

In terms of projects, here are some ideas:

* A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for
people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex
Mason is interested in this)
* Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.;
this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff)
* Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along
* LLVM if David Terei comes

So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of:
1) Who's interested
2) What dates are good
3) What projects people want to work on
4) Where we can host this

Let's get the ball rolling!

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ivan.miljeno...@gmail.com
IvanMiljenovic.wordpress.com
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Proposal: Australian Hackathon

2010-03-15 Thread Ben Lippmeier

On 16/03/2010, at 4:28 PM, Ivan Miljenovic wrote:

 * A plotting library using Ben's newly released Gloss library (for
 people who can't or won't install Gtk2Hs to get Chart working; Alex
 Mason is interested in this)
 * Various graph-related project (graphviz, generic graph class, etc.;
 this assumes someone else apart from me cares about this stuff)
 * Hubris if Mark Wotton comes along
 * LLVM if David Terei comes

I'd suggest focusing on core Haskell infrastructure, like compilers and tools, 
rather than individual libraries -- though it all depends on who wants to come 
along.


 So, at least as an initial listing, we'd need to have a listing of:
 1) Who's interested
 2) What dates are good
 3) What projects people want to work on
 4) Where we can host this

You'll also want to consider how a proposed OzHaskell might align and/or 
combine with other events such as SAPLING[1] and fp-syd[2]. There is also the 
ICFP programming contest in a few months that many people will be interested 
in...

Hosting is not a problem. If people want to come to Sydney then I'm sure we can 
organise a room at UNSW. 

Ben.


[1] http://plrg.ics.mq.edu.au/projects/show/sapling
[2] http://groups.google.com/group/fp-syd
[3] http://www.icfpconference.org/contest.html

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