Re: [Haskell-cafe] executeFile failing on macosx
Quoth David Powell da...@drp.id.au, Indeed System.Process does work for me. I had avoided it because it is a little more awkward to use it when you want the actual PIDs. I don't understand why System.Process.runProcess works for me, but executeFile does not. I did find this issue (for python) http://bugs.python.org/issue6800 which I think is the same thing I'm hitting and they also claim it is fixed in macosx 10.6. Anyway, I'll work with System.Process for now. Thanks for your help. It looks to me like the principal difference between System.Process and executeFile is that the former forks and execs in the same C function, so the GHC runtime doesn't execute in the child process. From the OS, that difference isn't significant, so I wouldn't look for a MacOS bug here. On the platform I'm using right now (Haiku), I see the same problem - -threaded and executeFile fails with `Operation not allowed', but -threaded and runProcess does not fail. I wish I understood this better myself, but the problem appears to be something that the runtime does after fork(). In a C program with multiple threads, I get this error with a direct exec or a fork/exec, but not with a fork/exec from the main thread. With a -threaded Haskell program, +RTS -Nn actually does not make any difference, unless there's another value for n that I should have used. Is there a way to suppress extra GHC runtime threads, when compiled with -threaded? I see three threads running, none of them spawned by the application. Where would this be documented? thanks, Donn Cave, d...@avvanta.com On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Schilling nomin...@googlemail.comwrote: Works fine on 10.6.3. If you run with +RTS -N2, though, you'll get forking not supported with +RTS -Nn greater than 1 The reason for this is that forking won't copy over the threads which means that the Haskell IO manager stops working (you'd have to somehow reinitialise the RTS while leaving heap and runtime stacks in tact -- very tricky). I'm using http://hackage.haskell.org/package/process to run external processes. I haven't had any problems with it. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
[Haskell-cafe] executeFile failing on macosx
executeFile is failing for me on Mac OS X 10.5.8, with ghc 6.12.1 when compiling with -threaded. Compiling without -threaded, or running on linux is fine. When compiled with -threaded, the following snippet produces the error: testProg: /bin/echo: executeFile: failed (Operation not supported) import System.Posix.Process main = do forkProcess $ executeFile /bin/echo False [Ok] Nothing Any suggestions for a work around for this would be appreciated. Cheers, -- David Powell ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] executeFile failing on macosx
Hello David, Sunday, May 16, 2010, 7:18:29 PM, you wrote: executeFile is failing for me on Mac OS X 10.5.8, with ghc 6.12.1 when compiling with -threaded. Compiling without -threaded, or running on linux is fine. forkProcess $ executeFile /bin/echo False [Ok] Nothing afair, forkProcess and -threaded shouldn't work together on any Unix. can you try forkIO or forkOS instead? -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] executeFile failing on macosx
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.comwrote: Hello David, Sunday, May 16, 2010, 7:18:29 PM, you wrote: executeFile is failing for me on Mac OS X 10.5.8, with ghc 6.12.1 when compiling with -threaded. Compiling without -threaded, or running on linux is fine. forkProcess $ executeFile /bin/echo False [Ok] Nothing afair, forkProcess and -threaded shouldn't work together on any Unix. can you try forkIO or forkOS instead? Hi Bulat, Both, forkIO and forkOS fail in the same way for me with -threaded. I believe this is because macosx requires the process to only have a single thread when doing an execv(), which I thought was the purpose of forkProcess? Cheers, -- David ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] executeFile failing on macosx
Works fine on 10.6.3. If you run with +RTS -N2, though, you'll get forking not supported with +RTS -Nn greater than 1 The reason for this is that forking won't copy over the threads which means that the Haskell IO manager stops working (you'd have to somehow reinitialise the RTS while leaving heap and runtime stacks in tact -- very tricky). I'm using http://hackage.haskell.org/package/process to run external processes. I haven't had any problems with it. On 17 May 2010 00:06, David Powell da...@drp.id.au wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello David, Sunday, May 16, 2010, 7:18:29 PM, you wrote: executeFile is failing for me on Mac OS X 10.5.8, with ghc 6.12.1 when compiling with -threaded. Compiling without -threaded, or running on linux is fine. forkProcess $ executeFile /bin/echo False [Ok] Nothing afair, forkProcess and -threaded shouldn't work together on any Unix. can you try forkIO or forkOS instead? Hi Bulat, Both, forkIO and forkOS fail in the same way for me with -threaded. I believe this is because macosx requires the process to only have a single thread when doing an execv(), which I thought was the purpose of forkProcess? Cheers, -- David ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- Push the envelope. Watch it bend. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] executeFile failing on macosx
Indeed System.Process does work for me. I had avoided it because it is a little more awkward to use it when you want the actual PIDs. I don't understand why System.Process.runProcess works for me, but executeFile does not. I did find this issue (for python) http://bugs.python.org/issue6800which I think is the same thing I'm hitting and they also claim it is fixed in macosx 10.6. Anyway, I'll work with System.Process for now. Thanks for your help. -- David On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Thomas Schilling nomin...@googlemail.comwrote: Works fine on 10.6.3. If you run with +RTS -N2, though, you'll get forking not supported with +RTS -Nn greater than 1 The reason for this is that forking won't copy over the threads which means that the Haskell IO manager stops working (you'd have to somehow reinitialise the RTS while leaving heap and runtime stacks in tact -- very tricky). I'm using http://hackage.haskell.org/package/process to run external processes. I haven't had any problems with it. On 17 May 2010 00:06, David Powell da...@drp.id.au wrote: On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Bulat Ziganshin bulat.zigans...@gmail.com wrote: Hello David, Sunday, May 16, 2010, 7:18:29 PM, you wrote: executeFile is failing for me on Mac OS X 10.5.8, with ghc 6.12.1 when compiling with -threaded. Compiling without -threaded, or running on linux is fine. forkProcess $ executeFile /bin/echo False [Ok] Nothing afair, forkProcess and -threaded shouldn't work together on any Unix. can you try forkIO or forkOS instead? Hi Bulat, Both, forkIO and forkOS fail in the same way for me with -threaded. I believe this is because macosx requires the process to only have a single thread when doing an execv(), which I thought was the purpose of forkProcess? Cheers, -- David ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe -- Push the envelope. Watch it bend. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
