Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-12-02 Thread shelarcy
Good. That new .dll works, too.

Best Regards,

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:13:01 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry. I was sleeping and I uploaded it to darcs.haskell.org instead
 to haskell.org. Try it now.

 On 12/2/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:14:26 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols
  but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether
  it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version.
 
http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip

 Is this file updated one?
 I downloaded it from above url again. But file size is same.
 So, I checked hash. It noticed that current and previous files
 are same.

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-12-01 Thread shelarcy
Hi Krasimir,

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:56:02 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1998-04/msg00133.html

 I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new
 vs_haskell.dll here:

 http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip

 It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try
 to replace it in your installation?

I tried to replace vs_haskell.dll after Windows Installer (MSI),
no error occur during devenv.exe /Setup command or using
Visual Haskell.

I can make new Haskell project.

 On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the
  commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About 
  dialog,
  I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to
  an English copy, however.

And I can open Studios Help | About dialog without any error.

After exit Visual Haskell, Microsoft Development Environment opened
error dialog about devenv.dll sometimes. Anyway, this error is
harmless and I reported to Microsoft by form.

Best Regards,

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-12-01 Thread Krasimir Angelov

Thanks. In the mail that I mentioned there was a sugesstion to use -s
option during dll linking. This has the advantage that the produced
dll will be smaller but still correct. I will try to build a new dll
again with this option this time. If it works I will prepare a new
installer with the updated dll.

Cheers,
  Krasimir

On 12/1/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Krasimir,

On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:56:02 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1998-04/msg00133.html

 I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new
 vs_haskell.dll here:

 http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip

 It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try
 to replace it in your installation?

I tried to replace vs_haskell.dll after Windows Installer (MSI),
no error occur during devenv.exe /Setup command or using
Visual Haskell.

I can make new Haskell project.

 On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the
  commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About 
dialog,
  I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to
  an English copy, however.

And I can open Studios Help | About dialog without any error.

After exit Visual Haskell, Microsoft Development Environment opened
error dialog about devenv.dll sometimes. Anyway, this error is
harmless and I reported to Microsoft by form.

Best Regards,

--
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http://page.freett.com/shelarcy/


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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-12-01 Thread Justin Bailey

On 11/30/06, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new
vs_haskell.dll here:

http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip

It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try
to replace it in your installation?



That new DLL worked for me, and I can also create new Haskell projects. Very
cool - thanks!

Justin
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-12-01 Thread Krasimir Angelov

The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols
but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether
it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version.


  http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip


Cheers,
  Krasimir
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-12-01 Thread shelarcy
Hi Krasimir,

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:14:26 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols
 but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether
 it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version.

   http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip

Is this file updated one?
I downloaded it from above url again. But file size is same.
So, I checked hash. It noticed that current and previous files
are same.

$ md5sum vs_haskell.dll
\a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Documents and Settings\\
Administrator\\My Documents\\vs_haskell\\vs_haskell.dll

$ md5sum C:\Doc\Haskell\vs_haskell\vs_haskell.dll
\a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Doc\\Haskell\\vs_haskell\\
vs_haskell.dll

Best Regards,

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-12-01 Thread Krasimir Angelov

Sorry. I was sleeping and I uploaded it to darcs.haskell.org instead
to haskell.org. Try it now.

Cheers,
 Krasimir

On 12/2/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Krasimir,

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:14:26 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols
 but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether
 it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version.

   http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip

Is this file updated one?
I downloaded it from above url again. But file size is same.
So, I checked hash. It noticed that current and previous files
are same.

$ md5sum vs_haskell.dll
\a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Documents and Settings\\
Administrator\\My Documents\\vs_haskell\\vs_haskell.dll

$ md5sum C:\Doc\Haskell\vs_haskell\vs_haskell.dll
\a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Doc\\Haskell\\vs_haskell\\
vs_haskell.dll

Best Regards,

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-11-30 Thread Thiago Arrais

On 11/30/06, Johannes Waldmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The main advantage (Visual Haskell  over eclipsefp) at the moment
is that VH uses incremental (on-the-fly) typechecking/compilation
while eclipsefp calls the compiler for whole modules?


I would say this is one of the greatest advantages of VH, don't know if it is
the main one, but it surely is an advantage. I wonder how VH achieves that.
I imagine it manages to run GHC (it uses GHC, right?) inside the .Net VM
or at least access it through some programmatic interface using some kind
of native/VM data conversion. GHC code (and not VH code) do the
typechecking/compilation tricks. Is that right?

Eclipse is Java and I am pretty sure we can do something similar with it
and we actually did something like the second approach prior to version
0.9.1, but just for source code parsing. What do we need for that?

Cheers,

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-11-30 Thread Krasimir Angelov

VSHaskell isn't interfacing with .NET but is a COM server written in
Haskell. The VStudio IDE is actually implemented in C but is using COM
as an interface to the various plugins. That way you can implement the
plugin in C++/.NET/Haskell or what ever you want. For Eclipse you need
a bridge between JVM and Haskell. In addition you have find some way
to build .so library for Linux.

Cheers,
 Krasimir


On 11/30/06, Thiago Arrais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 11/30/06, Johannes Waldmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The main advantage (Visual Haskell  over eclipsefp) at the moment
 is that VH uses incremental (on-the-fly) typechecking/compilation
 while eclipsefp calls the compiler for whole modules?

I would say this is one of the greatest advantages of VH, don't know if it is
the main one, but it surely is an advantage. I wonder how VH achieves that.
I imagine it manages to run GHC (it uses GHC, right?) inside the .Net VM
or at least access it through some programmatic interface using some kind
of native/VM data conversion. GHC code (and not VH code) do the
typechecking/compilation tricks. Is that right?

Eclipse is Java and I am pretty sure we can do something similar with it
and we actually did something like the second approach prior to version
0.9.1, but just for source code parsing. What do we need for that?

Cheers,

Thiago Arrais
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-11-30 Thread Justin Bailey

On 11/30/06, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


You can try to setup it manually using the following commands:

$ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell.dll
$ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_babel.dll
$ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_dlg.dll
$ devenv.exe /Setup



I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the
commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog,
I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to
an English copy, however.
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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-11-30 Thread shelarcy
Hi Krasimir,

 On 11/30/06, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You can try to setup it manually using the following commands:

 $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell.dll
 $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_babel.dll
 $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_dlg.dll
 $ devenv.exe /Setup

Why you always show 8.0 instead of 7.1?


On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the
 commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog,
 I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to
 an English copy, however.

Their commands didn't help for my environment too.
I saw same error dialog that I sent previous mail.


 On 11/30/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It's not good error message. Anyway, I translate it.
 
  Near the end of install process, error dialog opened and says:
 
  ---
  The problem happende, so exit Microsoft Development Environment.
  I'm sorry for causing inconvenience to you.
 
  (under its message, error dialog has form that send error report
  for Microsoft or shows error detail. These messages are not
  important, so I don't translate that.)
  ---
 
  And click form that shows error detail, another dialog opened.
  It shows:
 
  ---
  :Error ditail:
  An unhandled exception has been caught by the VSW exception filter.
  :Error Signature:
  AppName: devenv.exe  AppVer: 7.10.6030.0 ModName: unknown
  ModVer: 0.0.0.0  Offset: 00bbbacc
  :Report Detail:
  (Below meassage attetion to user that error report send what.
  So these messages are not important, too.)
  ---

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Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2

2006-11-30 Thread Krasimir Angelov

Hi Shelarcy,

On 12/1/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why you always show 8.0 instead of 7.1?


Sorry, I thought that you are using VStudio 2005.


On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the
 commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog,
 I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to
 an English copy, however.

Their commands didn't help for my environment too.
I saw same error dialog that I sent previous mail.


I saw this message this morning:

http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1998-04/msg00133.html

I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new
vs_haskell.dll here:

http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip

It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try
to replace it in your installation?

Cheers,
  Krasimir
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