Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
Good. That new .dll works, too. Best Regards, On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 16:13:01 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. I was sleeping and I uploaded it to darcs.haskell.org instead to haskell.org. Try it now. On 12/2/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:14:26 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version. http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip Is this file updated one? I downloaded it from above url again. But file size is same. So, I checked hash. It noticed that current and previous files are same. -- shelarcy shelarcycapella.freemail.ne.jp http://page.freett.com/shelarcy/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
Hi Krasimir, On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:56:02 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1998-04/msg00133.html I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new vs_haskell.dll here: http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try to replace it in your installation? I tried to replace vs_haskell.dll after Windows Installer (MSI), no error occur during devenv.exe /Setup command or using Visual Haskell. I can make new Haskell project. On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog, I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to an English copy, however. And I can open Studios Help | About dialog without any error. After exit Visual Haskell, Microsoft Development Environment opened error dialog about devenv.dll sometimes. Anyway, this error is harmless and I reported to Microsoft by form. Best Regards, -- shelarcy shelarcycapella.freemail.ne.jp http://page.freett.com/shelarcy/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
Thanks. In the mail that I mentioned there was a sugesstion to use -s option during dll linking. This has the advantage that the produced dll will be smaller but still correct. I will try to build a new dll again with this option this time. If it works I will prepare a new installer with the updated dll. Cheers, Krasimir On 12/1/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Krasimir, On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 16:56:02 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1998-04/msg00133.html I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new vs_haskell.dll here: http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try to replace it in your installation? I tried to replace vs_haskell.dll after Windows Installer (MSI), no error occur during devenv.exe /Setup command or using Visual Haskell. I can make new Haskell project. On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog, I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to an English copy, however. And I can open Studios Help | About dialog without any error. After exit Visual Haskell, Microsoft Development Environment opened error dialog about devenv.dll sometimes. Anyway, this error is harmless and I reported to Microsoft by form. Best Regards, -- shelarcy shelarcycapella.freemail.ne.jp http://page.freett.com/shelarcy/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
On 11/30/06, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new vs_haskell.dll here: http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try to replace it in your installation? That new DLL worked for me, and I can also create new Haskell projects. Very cool - thanks! Justin ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version. http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip Cheers, Krasimir ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
Hi Krasimir, On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:14:26 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version. http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip Is this file updated one? I downloaded it from above url again. But file size is same. So, I checked hash. It noticed that current and previous files are same. $ md5sum vs_haskell.dll \a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Documents and Settings\\ Administrator\\My Documents\\vs_haskell\\vs_haskell.dll $ md5sum C:\Doc\Haskell\vs_haskell\vs_haskell.dll \a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Doc\\Haskell\\vs_haskell\\ vs_haskell.dll Best Regards, -- shelarcy shelarcycapella.freemail.ne.jp http://page.freett.com/shelarcy/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
Sorry. I was sleeping and I uploaded it to darcs.haskell.org instead to haskell.org. Try it now. Cheers, Krasimir On 12/2/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Krasimir, On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 02:14:26 +0900, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The zip file is updated with .dll that is with stripped debug symbols but with --optdll-s as it is recommended. Could some one try whether it works? It is about two times smaller than the non stripped version. http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip Is this file updated one? I downloaded it from above url again. But file size is same. So, I checked hash. It noticed that current and previous files are same. $ md5sum vs_haskell.dll \a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Documents and Settings\\ Administrator\\My Documents\\vs_haskell\\vs_haskell.dll $ md5sum C:\Doc\Haskell\vs_haskell\vs_haskell.dll \a968ac130932a9b38bd0da50e9ae865a *C:\\Doc\\Haskell\\vs_haskell\\ vs_haskell.dll Best Regards, -- shelarcy shelarcycapella.freemail.ne.jp http://page.freett.com/shelarcy/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
On 11/30/06, Johannes Waldmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main advantage (Visual Haskell over eclipsefp) at the moment is that VH uses incremental (on-the-fly) typechecking/compilation while eclipsefp calls the compiler for whole modules? I would say this is one of the greatest advantages of VH, don't know if it is the main one, but it surely is an advantage. I wonder how VH achieves that. I imagine it manages to run GHC (it uses GHC, right?) inside the .Net VM or at least access it through some programmatic interface using some kind of native/VM data conversion. GHC code (and not VH code) do the typechecking/compilation tricks. Is that right? Eclipse is Java and I am pretty sure we can do something similar with it and we actually did something like the second approach prior to version 0.9.1, but just for source code parsing. What do we need for that? Cheers, Thiago Arrais -- Mergulhando no Caos - http://thiagoarrais.wordpress.com Pensamentos, idéias e devaneios sobre desenvolvimento de software e tecnologia em geral ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
VSHaskell isn't interfacing with .NET but is a COM server written in Haskell. The VStudio IDE is actually implemented in C but is using COM as an interface to the various plugins. That way you can implement the plugin in C++/.NET/Haskell or what ever you want. For Eclipse you need a bridge between JVM and Haskell. In addition you have find some way to build .so library for Linux. Cheers, Krasimir On 11/30/06, Thiago Arrais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/30/06, Johannes Waldmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main advantage (Visual Haskell over eclipsefp) at the moment is that VH uses incremental (on-the-fly) typechecking/compilation while eclipsefp calls the compiler for whole modules? I would say this is one of the greatest advantages of VH, don't know if it is the main one, but it surely is an advantage. I wonder how VH achieves that. I imagine it manages to run GHC (it uses GHC, right?) inside the .Net VM or at least access it through some programmatic interface using some kind of native/VM data conversion. GHC code (and not VH code) do the typechecking/compilation tricks. Is that right? Eclipse is Java and I am pretty sure we can do something similar with it and we actually did something like the second approach prior to version 0.9.1, but just for source code parsing. What do we need for that? Cheers, Thiago Arrais -- Mergulhando no Caos - http://thiagoarrais.wordpress.com Pensamentos, idéias e devaneios sobre desenvolvimento de software e tecnologia em geral ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
On 11/30/06, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try to setup it manually using the following commands: $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell.dll $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_babel.dll $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_dlg.dll $ devenv.exe /Setup I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog, I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to an English copy, however. ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
Hi Krasimir, On 11/30/06, Krasimir Angelov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try to setup it manually using the following commands: $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell.dll $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_babel.dll $ regsvr32 /i:8.0 /n vs_haskell_dlg.dll $ devenv.exe /Setup Why you always show 8.0 instead of 7.1? On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog, I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to an English copy, however. Their commands didn't help for my environment too. I saw same error dialog that I sent previous mail. On 11/30/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not good error message. Anyway, I translate it. Near the end of install process, error dialog opened and says: --- The problem happende, so exit Microsoft Development Environment. I'm sorry for causing inconvenience to you. (under its message, error dialog has form that send error report for Microsoft or shows error detail. These messages are not important, so I don't translate that.) --- And click form that shows error detail, another dialog opened. It shows: --- :Error ditail: An unhandled exception has been caught by the VSW exception filter. :Error Signature: AppName: devenv.exe AppVer: 7.10.6030.0 ModName: unknown ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 00bbbacc :Report Detail: (Below meassage attetion to user that error report send what. So these messages are not important, too.) --- Best Regards, -- shelarcy shelarcycapella.freemail.ne.jp http://page.freett.com/shelarcy/ ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re: [Haskell-cafe] Re: [Haskell] ANNOUNCE: Visual Haskell prerelease 0.2
Hi Shelarcy, On 12/1/06, shelarcy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why you always show 8.0 instead of 7.1? Sorry, I thought that you are using VStudio 2005. On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:48:49 +0900, Justin Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having similar problems with the Visual Haskell install, and the commands given did not help. When I open Visual Studios Help | About dialog, I get an error about the package failing to initialize. I am installing to an English copy, however. Their commands didn't help for my environment too. I saw same error dialog that I sent previous mail. I saw this message this morning: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/1998-04/msg00133.html I wonder whether this may cause the problem. I have uploaded a new vs_haskell.dll here: http://www.haskell.org/visualhaskell/vs_haskell.zip It is the same dll but without stripped debug symbols. Could you try to replace it in your installation? Cheers, Krasimir ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe