Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Roman, Sunday, June 27, 2010, 3:52:54 AM, you wrote: I fail to see how it will brake programs. Current programs do not use Unicode because it is implemented incorrectly. i use it. current Linux implementation treats String as sequence of bytes, and with manual recoding it allows to use filesystems with any encoding -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Roman, Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:07:47 AM, you wrote: Currently, FilePath is an alias for String. Changing FilePath to a real type Just do not change FilePath, what may be simpler? if FilePath will become abstract type, it will break all programs that use it since they use it as String -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Roman, Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:11:59 AM, you wrote: No! The target encoding is the current locale. It is a no-brainer to not necessarily. current locale, encoding of current terminal and encoding of every filesystem mounted are all different things -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Roman, Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:24:16 AM, you wrote: O'kay, but IMHO few people want to have a headache with recoding. You knew that the implementation was incorrect, why you relied on it? what is alternative? :) on windows i've used low-level open()-styly APIs, on Linux i got the same results with official API -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Roman, Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:28:49 AM, you wrote: Just do not change FilePath, what may be simpler? if FilePath will become abstract type, it will break all programs that use it since they use it as String Hello, do you read me? I said: do not change FilePath. what you mean by abstract type then? :) -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Roman, Sunday, June 27, 2010, 11:37:24 AM, you wrote: No! The target encoding is the current locale. It is a no-brainer to not necessarily. current locale, encoding of current terminal and encoding of every filesystem mounted are all different things And we should stick to the current locale. Problem solved. 6.3 CString The module CString provides routines marshalling Haskell into C strings and vice versa. The marshalling converts each Haskell character, representing a Unicode code point, to one or more bytes in a manner that, by default, is determined by the *current locale*. The Haskell 98 Foreign Function Interface. 1. it doesn't work on practice. ghc provides simple 8-bit conversion and i think a lot of code relies on this behavior 2. when you mount external/network volume, it doesn't necessarily has the same encoding as your current locale -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Felipe, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 4:44:20 PM, you wrote: Even if we said we don't care, we at least should change FilePath to be [Word8], and not [String]. Currently filepaths are silently truncated if any codepoint is beyond 255. and there is no OS except Unix ;) -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
Re[2]: [Haskell-cafe] Core packages and locale support
Hello Felipe, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 4:54:16 PM, you wrote: Even if we said we don't care, we at least should change FilePath to be [Word8], and not [String]. Currently filepaths other OSs worked fine, should I use this API (i.e. type FilePath = String) to its fullest extent, my program will suddently become unportable to all Unix OSs. but what you propose cannot be used in Windows at all! while current FilePath still works on Unix, with manual filenames en/decoding -- Best regards, Bulatmailto:bulat.zigans...@gmail.com ___ Haskell-Cafe mailing list Haskell-Cafe@haskell.org http://www.haskell.org/mailman/listinfo/haskell-cafe
