Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers
I wouldn't dare try to do what you are with a netgear. At a place I worked for a couple years ago I recommended a procurve for our 1Gbps network. They opted for the relatively low cost netgear. Now the thing is under performinging. It can't handle transferring from one port to the other anywhere near 95% without slowing down the rest of the switch ports. The tagging in it has some serious bugs. I would avoid netgear managed switches like the plague. Dell makes some good cheaper managed switches. I'll personally buy used procurve stuff from eBay for my home networks. More reliable, free support and it's just darn easy to use. Oh, and you get console access instead of web based only like netgear (yuck). On Feb 16, 2009, at 1:02 AM, Chad Austin c...@pcchemical.com wrote: Yes, I still avoid ANYTHING with the netgear logo on it. Ook wrote: What model of a Netgear? Historically, Netgear routers have been for low volume browse-the-web home users because of the limited size of their routing table, and not really very usefull for anything that requires a lot of connections. I once tried to run an open-nap server through one, and my user count would ramp up to about 1000 or so, and then everything started timing out. Connections all over my network would fail, and I finally realized it was the router. After going back and forth with Netgear's braindead support reps, I finally found someone at Netgear that admitted that the routing table in the router was like 1024 in size, and they really intended them to be used for AOL level users that just wanted to browse and IM. That was a few years ago...maybe they finally got the idea and increased it? Anyone been here long enough to remember my adventures in crap low end routers several years ago? Netgear was towards the top of the list of routers (and hardware in general) to avoid. Oh, and my butt itches... - Original Message - From: Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise Yeah, I ordered a Netgear that does 1Q tagging and 10k jumbo frames (24 ports total). I figure I can do 2 vlan's for VM's (one for gameserver traffic, the other for web), 1 for vmotion, 1 for iSCSI. Should work nicely. $235 at newegg. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:57 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise Wow. Personally I use a Cisco 6500 switch at home. It can handle a ton of traffic. Rick Payton wrote: The [SPAM] thing was my fault actually - I rearranged the ESXi letters to to say secksi only spelled with the 4 letters - and my company firewall picked it up and labeled it spam. --mauirixxx -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:03 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise I like this [SPAM] tag, but I don't think people will tag their 'OMG VALVE IS EVILL!!11!!1!1' threads with it, maybe a [CHAT] tag or something else would be better for things not directly related to running dedicated servers. J T wrote: 1Q is awesome. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Yeah, I may actually replace all my little home-based switches and get one decent managed switch and just do 1Q myself. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] voice_overdrive control in L4D?
I can't think of a proper greeing, so I will just say get to the meat :P Normally, I am able to solve stuff like this myself via some googling (whether quick or extensive), but I haven't been able to dig anything up on this other than a few hidden CVARs that don't change anything. As most of you hopefully know, there's a cvar in TF2 (among other games) on the client side called voice_overdrive which, when raised, lowers the volume of everything but voice while voice is in use by someone other than yourself. This way, no matter how loud game sounds are (guns, etc), you can still hear someone else telling you something. Seeing as L4D's sounds can get pretty loud, I was hoping to alter the voice_overdrive for myself only to find the cvar gone clientside. I then found it as a hidden cvar (defaulting to 2, where 10 is generally preferable) and hoped changing that on our servers might result in something helpful. It didn't make a lick of difference, however. So, I come to you guys to ask if anyone knows of a way to use voice_overdrive in L4D, whether client- or server-side or perhaps know if it's possible to implement this. I hope this is applicable, seeing as it's partially a clientside issue. However, I'm not sure where else I could ask this and possibly get a good answer (and, it is partially a server-side question, so :v). I Thanks! -Atreus ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers
We used a Procurve switch at work to separate VoIP (tagged) and regular traffic (tagged/untagged) and not once did we have any issues. I was so impressed that I have since purchased used ones on eBay for my home as well. I was extremely surprised when I called for support on one of them and reached a competent person who didn't care where I got the switch from, how old it was, etc. I can't say enough positive things about the Procurve line. You get just as good of a product as you do with Cisco, but without the astronomical cost. There's a reason they put a Procurve in the International Space Station. -- Andy On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:31:08 -0500, Steven J. Sumichrast packh...@gmail.com said: I wouldn't dare try to do what you are with a netgear. At a place I worked for a couple years ago I recommended a procurve for our 1Gbps network. They opted for the relatively low cost netgear. Now the thing is under performinging. It can't handle transferring from one port to the other anywhere near 95% without slowing down the rest of the switch ports. The tagging in it has some serious bugs. I would avoid netgear managed switches like the plague. Dell makes some good cheaper managed switches. I'll personally buy used procurve stuff from eBay for my home networks. More reliable, free support and it's just darn easy to use. Oh, and you get console access instead of web based only like netgear (yuck). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers
Kind of offtopic here, but the latest firmware releases on certain Procurves support LLDP. They put LLDP support on the Cisco IP phones now, so now IP Phones can join the voice networks automatically (much like the switchport voice command worked on the Cisco side of things forever...) I no longer see reason to put Cisco anywhere but the center of my network... On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Please read RFC 5322 if you don't understand the format of an e-mail address valvesoftware@dynamicbits.com wrote: We used a Procurve switch at work to separate VoIP (tagged) and regular traffic (tagged/untagged) and not once did we have any issues. I was so impressed that I have since purchased used ones on eBay for my home as well. I was extremely surprised when I called for support on one of them and reached a competent person who didn't care where I got the switch from, how old it was, etc. I can't say enough positive things about the Procurve line. You get just as good of a product as you do with Cisco, but without the astronomical cost. There's a reason they put a Procurve in the International Space Station. -- Andy On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:31:08 -0500, Steven J. Sumichrast packh...@gmail.com said: I wouldn't dare try to do what you are with a netgear. At a place I worked for a couple years ago I recommended a procurve for our 1Gbps network. They opted for the relatively low cost netgear. Now the thing is under performinging. It can't handle transferring from one port to the other anywhere near 95% without slowing down the rest of the switch ports. The tagging in it has some serious bugs. I would avoid netgear managed switches like the plague. Dell makes some good cheaper managed switches. I'll personally buy used procurve stuff from eBay for my home networks. More reliable, free support and it's just darn easy to use. Oh, and you get console access instead of web based only like netgear (yuck). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers
Apologies - it wasn't netgear. it's D-Link... I always confuse those two for some reason. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817111028 I'll report back on its performance after I carve out a few vlans and see how well it handles that plus jumbo frames. -Karl -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:03 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers Yes, I still avoid ANYTHING with the netgear logo on it. Ook wrote: What model of a Netgear? Historically, Netgear routers have been for low volume browse-the-web home users because of the limited size of their routing table, and not really very usefull for anything that requires a lot of connections. I once tried to run an open-nap server through one, and my user count would ramp up to about 1000 or so, and then everything started timing out. Connections all over my network would fail, and I finally realized it was the router. After going back and forth with Netgear's braindead support reps, I finally found someone at Netgear that admitted that the routing table in the router was like 1024 in size, and they really intended them to be used for AOL level users that just wanted to browse and IM. That was a few years ago...maybe they finally got the idea and increased it? Anyone been here long enough to remember my adventures in crap low end routers several years ago? Netgear was towards the top of the list of routers (and hardware in general) to avoid. Oh, and my butt itches... - Original Message - From: Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise Yeah, I ordered a Netgear that does 1Q tagging and 10k jumbo frames (24 ports total). I figure I can do 2 vlan's for VM's (one for gameserver traffic, the other for web), 1 for vmotion, 1 for iSCSI. Should work nicely. $235 at newegg. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:57 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise Wow. Personally I use a Cisco 6500 switch at home. It can handle a ton of traffic. Rick Payton wrote: The [SPAM] thing was my fault actually - I rearranged the ESXi letters to to say secksi only spelled with the 4 letters - and my company firewall picked it up and labeled it spam. --mauirixxx -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:03 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise I like this [SPAM] tag, but I don't think people will tag their 'OMG VALVE IS EVILL!!11!!1!1' threads with it, maybe a [CHAT] tag or something else would be better for things not directly related to running dedicated servers. J T wrote: 1Q is awesome. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Yeah, I may actually replace all my little home-based switches and get one decent managed switch and just do 1Q myself. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
[hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Interesting. So Scout update soon eh? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.comwrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.comwrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
what the hell is your problem? An update is an update. Don't be so goddamn ungrateful Thank you, Alec Sanger P: 248.941.3813 F: 313.286.8945 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:40:23 +1100 From: dogg...@bigpond.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.comwrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers
Heh - no apology needed - dLink and Belkin are the two brands that I put above Netgear on the avoid-at-all-costs list :) - Original Message - From: Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers Apologies - it wasn't netgear. it's D-Link... I always confuse those two for some reason. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817111028 I'll report back on its performance after I carve out a few vlans and see how well it handles that plus jumbo frames. -Karl -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:03 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] was spam and stuff but now is Routers Yes, I still avoid ANYTHING with the netgear logo on it. Ook wrote: What model of a Netgear? Historically, Netgear routers have been for low volume browse-the-web home users because of the limited size of their routing table, and not really very usefull for anything that requires a lot of connections. I once tried to run an open-nap server through one, and my user count would ramp up to about 1000 or so, and then everything started timing out. Connections all over my network would fail, and I finally realized it was the router. After going back and forth with Netgear's braindead support reps, I finally found someone at Netgear that admitted that the routing table in the router was like 1024 in size, and they really intended them to be used for AOL level users that just wanted to browse and IM. That was a few years ago...maybe they finally got the idea and increased it? Anyone been here long enough to remember my adventures in crap low end routers several years ago? Netgear was towards the top of the list of routers (and hardware in general) to avoid. Oh, and my butt itches... - Original Message - From: Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise Yeah, I ordered a Netgear that does 1Q tagging and 10k jumbo frames (24 ports total). I figure I can do 2 vlan's for VM's (one for gameserver traffic, the other for web), 1 for vmotion, 1 for iSCSI. Should work nicely. $235 at newegg. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 1:57 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: [SPAM] Re: [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise Wow. Personally I use a Cisco 6500 switch at home. It can handle a ton of traffic. Rick Payton wrote: The [SPAM] thing was my fault actually - I rearranged the ESXi letters to to say secksi only spelled with the 4 letters - and my company firewall picked it up and labeled it spam. --mauirixxx -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 11:03 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: [SPAM] Re: [hlds] [SPAM] RE: VMware Advise I like this [SPAM] tag, but I don't think people will tag their 'OMG VALVE IS EVILL!!11!!1!1' threads with it, maybe a [CHAT] tag or something else would be better for things not directly related to running dedicated servers. J T wrote: 1Q is awesome. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:36 AM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Yeah, I may actually replace all my little home-based switches and get one decent managed switch and just do 1Q myself. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Yeah, god forbid valve update the game and fix exploits and bugs. what are they thinking? DogGunn wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.comwrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source UpdateAvailable
I don't know if anyone noticed but now srcds makes a minidump everytime it starts even though its not crashing. --Original Message-- From: 1nsane Sender: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list ReplyTo: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source UpdateAvailable Sent: Feb 16, 2009 7:39 PM Interesting. So Scout update soon eh? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.comwrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds Sent via BlackBerry by ATT ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Anyone else notice that TF2 is now using the new STEAM_1:X: IDs? Anyone running scripts/plugins dependent on SteamID, make sure they are compatible! On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:30 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Yes. Confirmed. Bunch of headaches because of this. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Anyone else notice that TF2 is now using the new STEAM_1:X: IDs? Anyone running scripts/plugins dependent on SteamID, make sure they are compatible! On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:30 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: SourceUpdate Available
Is this related to the new update: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803775 http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803774 Just thought I would post those threads here. Thanks, Daniel -- From: msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com Sent: 17 February, 2009 01:13 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: SourceUpdateAvailable Anyone else notice that TF2 is now using the new STEAM_1:X: IDs? Anyone running scripts/plugins dependent on SteamID, make sure they are compatible! On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:30 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Pfft, Valve couldn't care. I mean they just changed the SteamID format... yet they didn't seem to inform anyone... On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:17 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
- Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional If you have a lot of per-map configs and need to globally swap the cvar names, Linux users can use: perl -pi -w -e 's/mp_stalemate_at_timelimit/mp_match_end_at_timelimit/g' *.cfg (run within your orangebox/tf/cfg directory) Ryan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of DogGunn Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:19 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Pfft, Valve couldn't care. I mean they just changed the SteamID format... yet they didn't seem to inform anyone... On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:17 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote: Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Doesn't fix the stat whores complaining because HLStatsX is showing the wrong rank. Should be fun updating a 60,000 SQL entries. Maybe I'll just wipe them and start over... Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
If you have the MySQL Query Browser you can just do a find and replace all. Doesn't fix the stat whores complaining because HLStatsX is showing the wrong rank. Should be fun updating a 60,000 SQL entries. Maybe I'll just wipe them and start over... Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
I wonder why valve does the whole STEAM_x thing to begin with, theres no point! The ID's are the same! Why cause headaches for no reason? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Anthal Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:32 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Doesn't fix the stat whores complaining because HLStatsX is showing the wrong rank. Should be fun updating a 60,000 SQL entries. Maybe I'll just wipe them and start over... Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Because they're VALVe? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I wonder why valve does the whole STEAM_x thing to begin with, theres no point! The ID's are the same! Why cause headaches for no reason? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Anthal Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:32 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Doesn't fix the stat whores complaining because HLStatsX is showing the wrong rank. Should be fun updating a 60,000 SQL entries. Maybe I'll just wipe them and start over... Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Which works, until valve decides one day... Hey, I think we should give everyone get out of banned free cards, let's change the 1 to a 2 out of the blue and with no real warning. When I first implemented my ID system for players I was considering doing the whole 32 bit int thing rather than storing the ID's as strings, but I figured I'd stick with the standard. So much for that. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lebson Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:34 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available If you have the MySQL Query Browser you can just do a find and replace all. Doesn't fix the stat whores complaining because HLStatsX is showing the wrong rank. Should be fun updating a 60,000 SQL entries. Maybe I'll just wipe them and start over... Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Valve, now that you have brought over this change from L4D to TF2, can we get an explanation of what it means? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:15 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Yes. Confirmed. Bunch of headaches because of this. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 5:13 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Anyone else notice that TF2 is now using the new STEAM_1:X: IDs? Anyone running scripts/plugins dependent on SteamID, make sure they are compatible! On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 16:30 -0800, Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
So hey I hear that downloading and running a server is free, if you don't like Valve and their practices, shut down your servers and walk away. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:38 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Because they're VALVe? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: I wonder why valve does the whole STEAM_x thing to begin with, theres no point! The ID's are the same! Why cause headaches for no reason? -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Anthal Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:32 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Doesn't fix the stat whores complaining because HLStatsX is showing the wrong rank. Should be fun updating a 60,000 SQL entries. Maybe I'll just wipe them and start over... Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
New steamid format did not affect our sourcebans or hlstatsx ranking. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Stickies are Pipes, play more TFC. Grenades are Grenades. On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:55 -0500, Anthal wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Classy. Very classy. I see why you're such an asset to this list :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:18 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Uhm, no. Why did they change in in L4D in the first place. - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Could someone please clarify what exactly has changed in the STEAM ID format, and whether this affects existing banned.cfg entries for STEAM IDs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
If they are SQL based you can always make a query:
UPDATE bans steamid=CONCAT('STEAM_1',SUBSTRING(steamid,8))
or
UPDATE sm_admins SET identity=CONCAT('STEAM_1',SUBSTRING(identity,8))
For older Sourcemod versions.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
Do you use SourceBans 1.4 or greater? If so, no. If not, maybe.
Seach/replace the files and you should be good to go though.
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 13:03 +1100, Arg! wrote:
Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam
id
format has changed?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com
wrote:
This is from the Steam Update Page.
/Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket
Launcher Syringe Gun)
Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units
from the Demoman/
So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O
Jason Ruymen wrote:
A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update
for
Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to
receive the update. The specific changes include:
- Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket
Launcher Syringe Gun)
- Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512
units from the Demoman
- Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend:
- Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling
clients
when the server they're on could not get their loadout
- Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can
see
the value of it on the server they're connected to
- Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit,
to
better explain its function now that stalemate is optional
- Protected several more commands from client exploitation
- Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when
viewmodels
are hidden
- Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the
list
Jason
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Maybe it was causing a conflict in some binary code that read the STEAM ID's
wrong?
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote:
If they are SQL based you can always make a query:
UPDATE bans steamid=CONCAT('STEAM_1',SUBSTRING(steamid,8))
or
UPDATE sm_admins SET identity=CONCAT('STEAM_1',SUBSTRING(identity,8))
For older Sourcemod versions.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:08 PM, msleeper mslee...@cyberwurx.com wrote:
Do you use SourceBans 1.4 or greater? If so, no. If not, maybe.
Seach/replace the files and you should be good to go though.
On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 13:03 +1100, Arg! wrote:
Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the
steam
id
format has changed?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com
wrote:
This is from the Steam Update Page.
/Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like
Rocket
Launcher Syringe Gun)
Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units
from the Demoman/
So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O
Jason Ruymen wrote:
A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional
update
for
Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool
to
receive the update. The specific changes include:
- Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like
Rocket
Launcher Syringe Gun)
- Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies
512
units from the Demoman
- Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend:
- Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling
clients
when the server they're on could not get their loadout
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to
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
I will demonstrate with my own ultra 1337 steamid: STEAM_0:1:1133750 -- STEAM_1:1:1133750 Andrew Armstrong wrote: Could someone please clarify what exactly has changed in the STEAM ID format, and whether this affects existing banned.cfg entries for STEAM IDs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
We are getting steam entry point SteamAPI_GetHSteamPipe could not be located errors when trying to start servers after applying this update. Any tips? Rob C. Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Make sure the steam_api.dll file was updated properly, that export is in that file. - Alfred -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds- boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert C Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:30 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available We are getting steam entry point SteamAPI_GetHSteamPipe could not be located errors when trying to start servers after applying this update. Any tips? Rob C. Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Ahh, you're right. Got a bit confused, been so long since I played TFC... msleeper wrote: Stickies are Pipes, play more TFC. Grenades are Grenades. On Mon, 2009-02-16 at 20:55 -0500, Anthal wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
That creates a problem for people who had already connected, since they now have duplicate entries. Not a huge deal since I just tell them to disconnect before deleting the new and changing the old, but still a pain... Michael Lebson wrote: If you have the MySQL Query Browser you can just do a find and replace all. Doesn't fix the stat whores complaining because HLStatsX is showing the wrong rank. Should be fun updating a 60,000 SQL entries. Maybe I'll just wipe them and start over... Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Yeah, I'm no longer storing the steamid's as strings. I would encourage everyone to abolish using the STEAM_whatever_valve_feels_like_changing_it_to_for_no_reason_at_all string in the STEAMID's and use the 32 bit INT version of their ID's, now that we are forced to update everything anyway. This post http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=60899 will be of great assistance. - voogru. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Thanks, I just did a comparison between my Id in Left 4 Dead and a Half-Life 1 game. It went from STEAM_0 to STEAM_1 as well. 1) Does this mean we should treat these two Ids as the same (what is the 0/1 for?) 2) Why would the prefix be different? The Source SDK says that value is either the Univerise or Account type; not sure why it would change. - Andrew -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Chad Austin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:24 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available I will demonstrate with my own ultra 1337 steamid: STEAM_0:1:1133750 -- STEAM_1:1:1133750 Andrew Armstrong wrote: Could someone please clarify what exactly has changed in the STEAM ID format, and whether this affects existing banned.cfg entries for STEAM IDs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
For more information on how STEAMID's are broken down, please read this wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteamID The article should give you an understanding as to how a steamid is constructed and why valve are making these apparent changes. Regards Matthew Bancroft 2009/2/17 Andrew Armstrong and...@mammoth.com.au: Could someone please clarify what exactly has changed in the STEAM ID format, and whether this affects existing banned.cfg entries for STEAM IDs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Thanks! Yeah I messed something up while pushig the update to our hosts. All good now. Alfred Reynolds wrote: Make sure the steam_api.dll file was updated properly, that export is in that file. - Alfred -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds- boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Robert C Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:30 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available We are getting steam entry point SteamAPI_GetHSteamPipe could not be located errors when trying to start servers after applying this update. Any tips? Rob C. Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
I am a huge assest to this list. Suck it up. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Classy. Very classy. I see why you're such an asset to this list :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:18 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Still rate 30k limitation.. IT LAGS LIKE HELL! Remove please! 2009/2/17 Matthew Bancroft hldsl...@apeximages.org: For more information on how STEAMID's are broken down, please read this wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteamID The article should give you an understanding as to how a steamid is constructed and why valve are making these apparent changes. Regards Matthew Bancroft 2009/2/17 Andrew Armstrong and...@mammoth.com.au: Could someone please clarify what exactly has changed in the STEAM ID format, and whether this affects existing banned.cfg entries for STEAM IDs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Are you really now? Brb walking my dog. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:44 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: I am a huge assest to this list. Suck it up. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Classy. Very classy. I see why you're such an asset to this list :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:18 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
DogGunn wrote: I am a huge asssest to this list. Suck it up./s On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Classy. Very classy. I see why you're such an asset to this list :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:18 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations to its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual universe to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh, Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like to hear that from Valve. Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of the account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that 'Y' actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or whether or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other era- based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'. Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's assigned apparently at random. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Bancroft Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:39 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available For more information on how STEAMID's are broken down, please read this wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteamID The article should give you an understanding as to how a steamid is constructed and why valve are making these apparent changes. Regards Matthew Bancroft 2009/2/17 Andrew Armstrong and...@mammoth.com.au: Could someone please clarify what exactly has changed in the STEAM ID format, and whether this affects existing banned.cfg entries for STEAM IDs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
:) Anyway, enough of me being pissed at VALVe. I promise to post on the list again, unless I have something to contribute. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Kitteny Berk b...@hairy-arse.com wrote: DogGunn wrote: I am a huge asssest to this list. Suck it up./s On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Classy. Very classy. I see why you're such an asset to this list :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:18 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
i dont know if its necesary but i opened the banned_user.cfg and did a find replace just in case. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Kitteny Berk b...@hairy-arse.com wrote: DogGunn wrote: I am a huge asssest to this list. Suck it up./s On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Karl Weckstrom k...@weckstrom.com wrote: Classy. Very classy. I see why you're such an asset to this list :) -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:18 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Because you sound just like Karl with his incessant whining. On Tue, 2009-02-17 at 12:11 +1100, DogGunn wrote: Hmm, why, what's wrong? Valve don't listen to this damn email list, unless something is terribly wrong. And even then, they don't listen to requests that would benefir the server operators. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Shawn Zipay z...@csnation.net wrote: Oh DogGunn, such negativity for no reason. Thanks for the update Valve. Shawn P. Zipay Site Director Total Gaming Network -- http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com MyInternetServices -- http://www.myinternetservices.com CS-Nation -- http://www.csnation.net On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:40 PM, DogGunn dogg...@bigpond.com wrote: Yes... exacly what we wanted... not. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jason Ruymen jas...@valvesoftware.com wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: SourceUpdate Available
People are complaining about this on the Steam Forums, and there should be an official statement about this. Included in the statement should be a fix for the issue. -- From: Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com Sent: 17 February, 2009 03:01 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: SourceUpdateAvailable I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations to its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual universe to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh, Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like to hear that from Valve. Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of the account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that 'Y' actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or whether or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other era- based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'. Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's assigned apparently at random. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Bancroft Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 6:39 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available For more information on how STEAMID's are broken down, please read this wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SteamID The article should give you an understanding as to how a steamid is constructed and why valve are making these apparent changes. Regards Matthew Bancroft 2009/2/17 Andrew Armstrong and...@mammoth.com.au: Could someone please clarify what exactly has changed in the STEAM ID format, and whether this affects existing banned.cfg entries for STEAM IDs? Thanks! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Justin Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2009 1:10 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Probably to make the L4D IDs match with TF2? On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald voo...@voogru.com wrote: You have to change all of the STEAM_0's to STEAM_1's. That's all. But still, what's the purpose of the change in the first place. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:04 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available Does this mean our ban lists are all completely useless because the steam id format has changed? On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Anthal ant...@couchathletics.com wrote: This is from the Steam Update Page. /Sticky bombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) Ultimately reduces damage done by sticky bombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman/ So, which is it. Pipes or stickies? o_O Jason Ruymen wrote: A required update for Team Fortress 2, along with an optional update for Day of Defeat: Source has been released. Please run hldsupdatetool to receive the update. The specific changes include: - Pipebombs now get a reduced close range damage ramp up (like Rocket Launcher Syringe Gun) - Ultimately reduces damage done by pipebombs to enemies 512 units from the Demoman - Moved the unlockable system over to the new item backend: - Added a warning dialog to the loadout screen telling clients when the server they're on could not get their loadout - Made tf_damage_disablespread a replicated convar, so clients can see the value of it on the server they're connected to - Renamed mp_stalemate_at_timelimit to mp_match_end_at_timelimit, to better explain its function now that stalemate is optional - Protected several more commands from client exploitation - Fixed muzzle flashes shell ejections still playing when viewmodels are hidden - Server tags can now be used to include or exclude servers from the list Jason ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that 'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
UPDATE players SET steamid = CAST(MID(authid, 9, 1) AS UNSIGNED) +
CAST(MID(authid, 11, 10) * 2 AS UNSIGNED)
No more steamid strings for me THANK U VERY MUCH.
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fyren
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:21 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the statement
made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the account type
are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number come from
different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the SteamID comes
from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and seems to be
arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that 'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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[hlds] Valve: Plans to migrate all Steam IDs to the new format?
Hi, I just wanted to ask whether there were plans to migrate the IDs to the new format for all existing games (such as CS/Hl1 based games and their mods)? Any info would be appreciated; myself and others no doubt store these IDs for some reason or another and it would be good to know whether we will need to make changes to such systems to view IDs with STEAM_0 and STEAM_1 as the same or not. If you are planning/close to migrating your older games to the new format as well, it would be good to know so we can just wait for the update instead. Cheers, Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
lern2spell.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
voo...@voogru.com wrote:
UPDATE players SET steamid = CAST(MID(authid, 9, 1) AS UNSIGNED) +
CAST(MID(authid, 11, 10) * 2 AS UNSIGNED)
No more steamid strings for me THANK U VERY MUCH.
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fyren
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:21 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] TF2 update now server can not connect to steam
I've seen this fire once on each server after the update, like a run once instance. Seems fine now steamservice.cpp (275) : Assertion Failed: Failed to start in-process Steam Service From: Adam Smith absmi...@gmail.com To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:56:11 PM Subject: [hlds] TF2 update now server can not connect to steam Can anyone help me with this error message from my TF2 server after today's update? [S_API FAIL] SteamAPI_Init() failed; unable to update local steamclient. Continuing with current version anyway. cminterface.cpp (598) : Assertion Failed: NULL != m_hConnection ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
What?
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:08 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
lern2spell.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
voo...@voogru.com wrote:
UPDATE players SET steamid = CAST(MID(authid, 9, 1) AS UNSIGNED) +
CAST(MID(authid, 11, 10) * 2 AS UNSIGNED)
No more steamid strings for me THANK U VERY MUCH.
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fyren
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:21 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd
like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is
inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Oh nothing never mind! Just crazy talk.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
voo...@voogru.com wrote:
What?
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:08 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
lern2spell.
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
voo...@voogru.com wrote:
UPDATE players SET steamid = CAST(MID(authid, 9, 1) AS UNSIGNED) +
CAST(MID(authid, 11, 10) * 2 AS UNSIGNED)
No more steamid strings for me THANK U VERY MUCH.
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Fyren
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:21 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like
Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd
like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying
that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is
inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
If it helps you any, all our admin is still working thanks to the fact
*sourcemod
ignores the first number in the steamid* in case of things like this.
-Atreus
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:23 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote:
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Find and replace. It'll take you 5 minutes.
:|
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:23 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote:
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Anyone using SourceBans and got a quick way to update the Steam ID list?
Love you VALVe...
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote:
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
I agree some warning would have been nice, but you are exaggerating
everything. Hlstats didn't notice or care about the change (for me) and it
took about 30 seconds to start up phpMyAdmin and run an SQL query to convert
everything from STEAM_0 to STEAM_1:
UPDATE `steamidbans` SET `steamid` = REPLACE(`steamid`, 'STEAM_0',
'STEAM_1')
Using a text file? Open it in notepad, CTRL+H. Find and replace works
wonders.
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SmOoThEm
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 9:24 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
UPDATE sb_admins SET authid=CONCAT('STEAM_1',SUBSTRING(authid,8)) WHERE
aid!=0;
UPDATE sb_bans SET authid=CONCAT('STEAM_1',SUBSTRING(authid,8));
DogGunn skrev:
Anyone using SourceBans and got a quick way to update the Steam ID list?
Love you VALVe...
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote:
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
As someone else said, the newer releases of SourceMod handles the change
internally. So updating SourceMod (and possibly SourceBans) should fix
the problem without having to update your admin list/database.
--
Stevo.TVR
TheVille.Org
DogGunn wrote:
Anyone using SourceBans and got a quick way to update the Steam ID list?
Love you VALVe...
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote:
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
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Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update Available
Yes im working on updating now and getting everything back to normal, one
problem after another after another. :(
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of StevoTVR
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 10:03 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
As someone else said, the newer releases of SourceMod handles the change
internally. So updating SourceMod (and possibly SourceBans) should fix
the problem without having to update your admin list/database.
--
Stevo.TVR
TheVille.Org
DogGunn wrote:
Anyone using SourceBans and got a quick way to update the Steam ID list?
Love you VALVe...
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, SmOoThEm ad...@righttorule.com wrote:
Valves update today was uncalled for and completely trashed our services.
For those of you who didn't already know heres the recap.
NO Banlists work
NO Hlstats work
NO admin plugins or reserve slots work
They decided to change everyone's STEAM ID and just unbanned the entire
population from all servers.
Nice job valve, some warning would have saved everyone A LOT of time and
headaches!
This has to be one of the single worst updates of all time, and it
happened
on a Monday.
Valve really needs to make a beta test program or some kind if
announcement
of what's coming, this is absolutely ridiculous.
Here my numbers im sure there are others with like sums.
104834 stats players
Total bans 4331
150+ reserveslots
40+ Admins
All this has to be changed overnight, and some of us have work tomorrow.
I just don't understand what valve thinks about for these updates Lets
see
how much we can fuck up our community today!
WE NEED A WARNING!!!
SmOoThEm
Leader of RightToRule
www.RightToRule.com
-Original Message-
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Tony Paloma
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 7:49 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
I understand the numbers came from the SDK. I'm just saying that the
statement made in the article that the middle number in the SteamID and
the
account type are the same is bogus. The account type and that middle
number
come from different spots of the 64bit SteamID. The middle number of the
SteamID comes from a single bit (the least significant bit, actually) and
seems to be arbitrary.
The entire point of my post is that people make tons of assumptions about
SteamIDs with no proof or statements from Valve. I was hoping Valve could
clarify.
-Original Message-
From: Fyren fyren...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 and Day of Defeat: Source Update
Available
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 22:01, Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com
wrote:
I'd feel better about that article if there was some proof or citations
to
its claims. All of a sudden everyone's ID went from the Individual
universe
to Public? Doesn't really make sense. I would accept something like Oh,
Valve is now trying to adhere to the standard they created. But I'd
like
to
hear that from Valve.
Also the whole bit about how Y (in STEAM_X:Y:Z) represents the type of
the
account where Y can be 0-9 is bogus. Also, if anyone replies saying that
'Y'
actually has to do with the server in which registration occurred or
whether
or not the account was created pre or post-HL2 release (or some other
era-
based explanation) please assume I replied with '/facepalm'.
Furthermore, after looking at it a bit more, that article is
inconsistent
anyways. At one point it says the Y is the type, later it says it's
assigned
apparently at random.
The information about the Y was simply taken straight out of
steamclientpublic.h in the SDK:
// Steam account types
enum EAccountType
{
k_EAccountTypeInvalid = 0,
k_EAccountTypeIndividual = 1, // single user account
k_EAccountTypeMultiseat = 2,// multiseat (e.g.
cybercafe) account
k_EAccountTypeGameServer = 3, // game server account
k_EAccountTypeAnonGameServer = 4, // anonymous game server
account
k_EAccountTypePending = 5, // pending
k_EAccountTypeContentServer = 6,// content server
k_EAccountTypeClan = 7,
k_EAccountTypeChat = 8,
k_EAccountTypeP2PSuperSeeder = 9, // a fake steamid used
by superpeers to seed content to users of Steam P2P stuff
// Max of 16 items in this field
k_EAccountTypeMax
};
-Fyren
Re: [hlds] Valve: Plans to migrate all Steam IDs to the new format?
I guess that this is all related to using Steam cloud, so whenever this is added to another game you can assume the I'd's will change with no warning from valve. Yay, go go communications! On 17 Feb 2009, at 03:59, Andrew Armstrong and...@mammoth.com.au wrote: Hi, I just wanted to ask whether there were plans to migrate the IDs to the new format for all existing games (such as CS/Hl1 based games and their mods)? Any info would be appreciated; myself and others no doubt store these IDs for some reason or another and it would be good to know whether we will need to make changes to such systems to view IDs with STEAM_0 and STEAM_1 as the same or not. If you are planning/close to migrating your older games to the new format as well, it would be good to know so we can just wait for the update instead. Cheers, Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Valve: Plans to migrate all Steam IDs to the new format?
Valve can change ID's to 1337_BANANAS:1:1182 or LOLLERKSKATES:1:1182, or FACEPALM:1:1182. Won't affect me. In fact, I'm considering changing the status command to give random things for STEAM_x to screw with people, and since it's pretty much meaningless anyway. I can't wait to see players say wtf his steamid is 1337_BANANAS - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David Cousins Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:43 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve: Plans to migrate all Steam IDs to the new format? I guess that this is all related to using Steam cloud, so whenever this is added to another game you can assume the I'd's will change with no warning from valve. Yay, go go communications! On 17 Feb 2009, at 03:59, Andrew Armstrong and...@mammoth.com.au wrote: Hi, I just wanted to ask whether there were plans to migrate the IDs to the new format for all existing games (such as CS/Hl1 based games and their mods)? Any info would be appreciated; myself and others no doubt store these IDs for some reason or another and it would be good to know whether we will need to make changes to such systems to view IDs with STEAM_0 and STEAM_1 as the same or not. If you are planning/close to migrating your older games to the new format as well, it would be good to know so we can just wait for the update instead. Cheers, Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
Re: [hlds] Valve: Plans to migrate all Steam IDs to the new format?
You have to do this. Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Valve can change ID's to 1337_BANANAS:1:1182 or LOLLERKSKATES:1:1182, or FACEPALM:1:1182. Won't affect me. In fact, I'm considering changing the status command to give random things for STEAM_x to screw with people, and since it's pretty much meaningless anyway. I can't wait to see players say wtf his steamid is 1337_BANANAS - voogru. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of David Cousins Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:43 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve: Plans to migrate all Steam IDs to the new format? I guess that this is all related to using Steam cloud, so whenever this is added to another game you can assume the I'd's will change with no warning from valve. Yay, go go communications! On 17 Feb 2009, at 03:59, Andrew Armstrong and...@mammoth.com.au wrote: Hi, I just wanted to ask whether there were plans to migrate the IDs to the new format for all existing games (such as CS/Hl1 based games and their mods)? Any info would be appreciated; myself and others no doubt store these IDs for some reason or another and it would be good to know whether we will need to make changes to such systems to view IDs with STEAM_0 and STEAM_1 as the same or not. If you are planning/close to migrating your older games to the new format as well, it would be good to know so we can just wait for the update instead. Cheers, Andrew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
