RE: [Hornlist] Sex, Drugs, and Polka
Blue Diamond is evidently the name of an organization with which I don't
want my music associated. So now I need a new title.
Carl Bangs
Fenwick Parva Press
http://www.fenwickparva.com
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Re: [Hornlist] Riedl
Robert Osmun wrote: > Is it possible that you have Stuart confused with Keith Berg? Bob Osmun According to Stuart's own web site, he studied horn making with Dan Rauch and Rick Seraphinoff. http://www.deharohorns.com/about_me.htm Keith Berg studied with Rauch too. http://www.berghorns.com/keith.htm Greg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Using a Mirror
Donald - As someone who went through some brutal embouchure issues over the past 2 and a half years (focal dystonia), I can tell you that using the mirror did help me. I did have many people advise the use of a mirror, but no one advised me to use it for the purposes of matching another person's embouchure. The primary reasons were to make sure: 1 - That my corners were working correctly (not too tight, not too loose, not moving all over the place) 2 - That my chin was working correctly (staying put for the most part with the obvious exceptions of significant range changes) 3 - That the overall placement was in the ball park. I've definitely found that I can make my embouchure look identical 3 times in a row in the mirror but all 3 times it feels dramatically different (both vertical and horizontal placement, pressure, corners, etc.) The mirror doesn't solve these issues, it only gives visual feedback to make sure that you're on the right track. I will tell you one giant piece of the puzzle that helped for me. A LOT of people advised me to either place the mouthpiece as high on the top lip as possible or showed me places to put it that were simply too high. In the mouthpiece visualizer and in the mirror, it looked "correct." However, ultimately, it was way too high. I found getting the mouthpiece lower (at the advice of Marty Hackleman) made all of my problems nearly disappear! I still keep my upper lip out of the red, but now much more bottom lip is engaged. In the mouthpiece visualizer, I still get a majority of top lip. Is it 2/3-1/3? Maybe, maybe not. It's close. But a combination of extreme relaxation techniques (in my case, hypnosis and acupuncture), proper placement and extreme patience are ultimately what did the job. The mirror was just one of the tools to keep me on track. I hope this helps. Cheers- Jeremy -Original Message- From: Donald Huang [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:59 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Using a Mirror Hello all, Over the past two years, I've been plagued with some embouchure issues and I've read and heard a lot of different view points on lip placement and everything. I'm not asking for any suggestions right now, but I was wondering about one thing that somebody told me. Out of all of the suggestions I've gotten, the most unhelpful was simply to "look in the mirror and fix what's wrong" and to try to copy the embouchures of Stefan Dohr and the Berlin Phil's horns. Now I've used the mirror before just to try to keep the top of the mouthpiece out of the red of my lip and to try to center the mouthpiece, but I don't think that's what the well-wishing suggester meant. Also, I don't see how anybody can copy anything more than mouthpiece placement and possibly which muscles to use from seeing some clips on YouTube. Has anybody here actually benefited from this kind of advice? Donald Huang ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Using a Mirror
Hello all, Over the past two years, I've been plagued with some embouchure issues and I've read and heard a lot of different view points on lip placement and everything. I'm not asking for any suggestions right now, but I was wondering about one thing that somebody told me. Out of all of the suggestions I've gotten, the most unhelpful was simply to "look in the mirror and fix what's wrong" and to try to copy the embouchures of Stefan Dohr and the Berlin Phil's horns. Now I've used the mirror before just to try to keep the top of the mouthpiece out of the red of my lip and to try to center the mouthpiece, but I don't think that's what the well-wishing suggester meant. Also, I don't see how anybody can copy anything more than mouthpiece placement and possibly which muscles to use from seeing some clips on YouTube. Has anybody here actually benefited from this kind of advice? Donald Huang ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Le Chasseur Maudit
Hi Rick, There are two good US recordings; the immortal Charles Munch with the Boston on RCA (I cannot give you the number as my copy is Japanese & bought in Germany); more recently, Muti and the Philadelphia on EMI Classics Red Line 7243 5 73235 2 9 - how about that for an incomprehensible number? And my favourite, on Supraphon 11 0613 - 2011, The Czech Phil under Jean Fournet. The problem in this piece is an acoustic one. Its OK for 1st & 3rd but 2nd and particularly 4th have answering phrases at a lower pitch, below the stave, which must sound as loud. See Farkas on how to develop the sound in the nether regions! Ralph R. Hall (brasshausmusic.com) On 25 Aug 2009, at 20:38, bspence2 wrote: The Oklahoma Community Orchestra is performing Le Chasseur Maudit on our October concert. Anyone have experience with this piece? Advise, suggestions, hints? Who has a good recording out? Rick Spence ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ralph%40brasshausmusic.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Riedl
Hi Greg, Is it possible that you have Stuart confused with Keith Berg? Bob Osmun Greg Campbell wrote: Eric Egle wrote: Mr. Osmun, After I provided the serial number of my horn I was told by it's maker, Dan Rauch, that the ring was made by Riedl of Germany. That's all know! I'm awaiting a response from Mr. Rauch on possible contact information for Riedl, but in the meantime I thought I'd try the list. You might try to contact Stuart de Haro. He apprenticed with Rauch, but I don't know if that means he has any more knowledge of the maker of this ring than anyone else. http://www.deharohorns.com/ He might be able to copy the ring, though I imagine it would require taking it off the bell. It might be easier just to replace it with a more "standard" ring if you are interested in experimenting with bell flares. Greg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rosmun%40osmun.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Horn Choir Pieces
Hi Travis - I have better part of 100 horn fabulous octets available on my website: http://www.vermeulenmusic.com/index.html Go to the sales section and have fun. They are the amazing arrangements of Dick Meyer and there are a bunch of them that would be perfect for the ensemble you describe. They are written to sound even more impressive than their difficulty level. Lots of holiday tunes as well. Enjoy. The PayPal shopping cart is easy to manage as well. All the best, Bill William VerMeulen International Soloist and Recording Artist Professor of Horn - Rice University Shepherd School of Music Principal Horn - Houston Symphony President - VerMeulen Music, L.L.C. 5327 Dora St. Houston, TX 77005-1817 (713) 520-7234 (713) 818-4459 Cellular vermeu...@rice.edu Check out vermeulenmusic.com for great products and services for horn players! -- message: 3 date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:26:08 -0400 from: Travis Bennett subject: [Hornlist] Horn choir pieces? Dear Listers, I was greatly surprised to find that I have 18 eager students in my Horn Ch= oir this year! Only 11 of them are music majors, so there is a wide range = of abilities in the group. I'd love to get some recommendations for pieces= that might work well, with some doubling of parts while not getting too mu= ddy - and nothing too terribly difficult. Any ideas? Thanks for your help! Travis Dr. Travis Bennett Assistant Professor of Horn Western Carolina University Cullowhee, NC 28723 (828) 227-3957 tbenn...@email.wcu.edu http://bennettstenets.blogspot.com http://paws.wcu.edu/tbennett http://www.smbq.com -- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/listinfo/horn End of Horn Digest, Vol 80, Issue 27 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Semi-HR
Probably the Principal horn, John... Walt Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Riedl
Eric Egle wrote: Mr. Osmun, After I provided the serial number of my horn I was told by it's maker, Dan Rauch, that the ring was made by Riedl of Germany. That's all know! I'm awaiting a response from Mr. Rauch on possible contact information for Riedl, but in the meantime I thought I'd try the list. You might try to contact Stuart de Haro. He apprenticed with Rauch, but I don't know if that means he has any more knowledge of the maker of this ring than anyone else. http://www.deharohorns.com/ He might be able to copy the ring, though I imagine it would require taking it off the bell. It might be easier just to replace it with a more "standard" ring if you are interested in experimenting with bell flares. Greg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Horn choir pieces?
Dear Listers, I was greatly surprised to find that I have 18 eager students in my Horn Choir this year! Only 11 of them are music majors, so there is a wide range of abilities in the group. I'd love to get some recommendations for pieces that might work well, with some doubling of parts while not getting too muddy - and nothing too terribly difficult. Any ideas? Thanks for your help! Travis Dr. Travis Bennett Assistant Professor of Horn Western Carolina University Cullowhee, NC 28723 (828) 227-3957 tbenn...@email.wcu.edu http://bennettstenets.blogspot.com http://paws.wcu.edu/tbennett http://www.smbq.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Le Chasseur Maudit
Gotta love YouTube! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPlmh8joOOw Sean ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Semi-HR
So which band member was shooting at him? John Baumgart - Original Message - From: "William.S.Gross" To: "The Horn List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:48:58 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: [Hornlist] Semi-HR On this day in 1917, Arturo Toscanini, 53, conducts an Italian army band under fire to celebrate the capture of Monte Santo on the Bainsizza Plateau. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john.baumgart%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Semi-HR
Gotta love those Italians! I may be a wee bit prejudiced here : ) - Original Message - From: "William.S.Gross" To: "The Horn List" Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 10:48 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Semi-HR On this day in 1917, Arturo Toscanini, 53, conducts an Italian army band under fire to celebrate the capture of Monte Santo on the Bainsizza Plateau. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amegenity%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Semi-HR
On this day in 1917, Arturo Toscanini, 53, conducts an Italian army band under fire to celebrate the capture of Monte Santo on the Bainsizza Plateau. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Sex, Drugs, and Polka
Boy talk about a bad time to get a blank message. Just look at that subject line. At least it's not from Prof. Pizka at this time. -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+bgross=airmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of c...@fenwickparva.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:04 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Cc: h...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Hornlist] Sex, Drugs, and Polka Importance: High ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
