Re: Help settle a job title/role debate
Bob Like you I encountered a couple of exceptionally talented and helpful SE's in the 80's - perhaps it was location dependent. Later, arriving in the Great White North I was saddened to find the position had been reduced to that of a 'Sales Expediter'. James F. Smith -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: 09 May 2007 23:10 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help settle a job title/role debate By 1965 the SE became not much more than the guy you called to order manuals, as all of them with half a brain were pulled into the S/360 development effort. That's a bit harsh. I has two exceptional SEs, one in the early 1980s and one in the late 1980s-early 1990s. Of course, I haven't seen an SE in a long, long time. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISR only with SW contract
I set up an IBM ID for two customers recently. Then began the process of registering for Shopzseries. Didn't get very far as neither customer number was found in the database!!! Gave up. James F. Smith -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: 12 May 2007 01:32 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISR only with SW contract On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 09:32 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: Yes, this sounds very strange to me as well. The only thing you need is an id on ShopzSeries so that you can obtain a certificate that will identify you to the server. I don't believe getting a ShopzSeries id is related to a SW support contract, so I think what you heard is false. Perhaps someone is confusing SMP/E Internet Service Retrieval with some of the fee service offerings (the names of which escape me). Perhaps you might investigate this Kurt. Some little time back (Jan 1, 2005 maybe) things changed. Shopz used to have a simple (well, IBM web-based - you get the idea) registration - for themselves. Was flexible enough for me to use for several different clients. Then they changed to using the one-and-only IBM id. After it changed I was unable to place an order for a (any) customer with my one-and-only id because it has (er had) a non-customer email address. My email address at an IBM business partner who sells these particular customers their processors/services. I now have to get a (valid) email address at each customer - seems it must be in a domain name registered to the client. Then I update my one-and-only id profile, then place the order with the applicable (IBM) customer number, then hope the mail comes through. Rinse and repeat for next customer. Serious PITA. I raised this with ISC here in Australia, and they didn't appear to believe me initially. Finally got through to some-one who was prepared to follow it up and the response was: tough. The process had changed, and we had all better learn to live with it. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zAAP for zip ?
Miklos, You can call Java methods from a C++ program on z/OS. The way you would go about doing that is to use JNI (Java Native Interface). JNI allows Java programs to call native code (e.g. C++ methods), and vice versa. It looks like you'll want the C++ program invoking a Java method (the vice versa). IBM has a redbook (http://www.redbooks.ibm.com) which delves into this topic at least a bit. Here's the direct link: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247291.html One of the examples provided is Enterprise (OO) COBOL invoking Java, and that should give you enough information to get going since it's quite similar. (I did a little searching but didn't find a good C++ invoking Java example.) I think we'd all be interested to learn your results, by the way. Sounds like an interesting project. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Specializing in Software Architectures Related to System z Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan and IBM Asia-Pacific E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
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Re: ISR only with SW contract
On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:23:51 +0800, James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set up an IBM ID for two customers recently. Then began the process of registering for Shopzseries. Didn't get very far as neither customer number was found in the database!!! Gave up. Try to enter customer number without leading zero. Tomas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card)
Mark Zelden wrote: [...] I don't know the actual numbers, but I am going by how many MVCs we send off site each day and how full they are. Do you physically move MVCs offsite ??? Why? I thought, you told us all your data is replicated using VSM Clustering. So, why to move any physical cart ? BTW: Even without clustering it is not necessary to move MVCs, since you can write VTVs on two MVCs in two ACSes (in two locations). -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci opacony) wynosi 118.064.140 z. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISR only with SW contract
Tomas Didn't think to try that - will give it a go next week regards James F. Smith -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tomas Fott Sent: 15 May 2007 16:06 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ISR only with SW contract On Tue, 15 May 2007 14:23:51 +0800, James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I set up an IBM ID for two customers recently. Then began the process of registering for Shopzseries. Didn't get very far as neither customer number was found in the database!!! Gave up. Try to enter customer number without leading zero. Tomas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
Hi, I am attempting to put a disk address offline in a JES3 environment. I tried the commands below but I received the following error messages: $V,9F46,OFFLINE,ALL IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID $V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 (MVS01 is the partition) IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID I looked up the IEE305I message but it didn't help. Any suggestions as to what I am missing. Thanks. - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
On Tue, 15 May 2007 03:41:42 -0700, willie bunter wrote: I am attempting to put a disk address offline in a JES3 environment. I tried the commands below but I received the following error messages: $V,9F46,OFFLINE,ALL IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID $V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 (MVS01 is the partition) IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID I looked up the IEE305I message but it didn't help. It's an MVS message, not a JES3 message. Your commands are not making it to JES3. $ is not the usual JES3 command prefix. * is the default sysplex scope command prefix, though your installation may have changed it. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
I checked with our OPS department and they use *. I tried the command but I got errors for both commands. Could it be that the command cannot be entered via SDSF? *V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD /*vary 9F46,offline,ALL IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 03:41:42 -0700, willie bunter wrote: I am attempting to put a disk address offline in a JES3 environment. I tried the commands below but I received the following error messages: $V,9F46,OFFLINE,ALL IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID $V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 (MVS01 is the partition) IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID I looked up the IEE305I message but it didn't help. It's an MVS message, not a JES3 message. Your commands are not making it to JES3. $ is not the usual JES3 command prefix. * is the default sysplex scope command prefix, though your installation may have changed it. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 05:01 -0700, willie bunter wrote: *V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD Try it with a leading slash - don't know if it's relevant to JES3; *V,/9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
On Tue, 15 May 2007 05:01:46 -0700, willie bunter wrote: I checked with our OPS department and they use *. I tried the command but I got errors for both commands. Could it be that the command cannot be entered via SDSF? *V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD /*vary 9F46,offline,ALL IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD You've gotten closer. This time the command was rejected by JES3. Is 9F46 a JES3 controlled device? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
I tried it but the command failed (command is invalid). Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 05:01 -0700, willie bunter wrote: *V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD Try it with a leading slash - don't know if it's relevant to JES3; *V,/9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
I don't know how to find that out. All I know is that the environment is a JES3 environemnt. Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 05:01:46 -0700, willie bunter wrote: I checked with our OPS department and they use *. I tried the command but I got errors for both commands. Could it be that the command cannot be entered via SDSF? *V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD /*vary 9F46,offline,ALL IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD You've gotten closer. This time the command was rejected by JES3. Is 9F46 a JES3 controlled device? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
Ummm shouldn't that be a space between the 'v' and the unit number... John Compton Phone Cork: +353 (0)21 231 4641; Phone VOIP: 214-775-3641 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter Sent: 15 May 2007 13:02 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT I checked with our OPS department and they use *. I tried the command but I got errors for both commands. Could it be that the command cannot be entered via SDSF? *V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD /*vary 9F46,offline,ALL IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 03:41:42 -0700, willie bunter wrote: I am attempting to put a disk address offline in a JES3 environment. I tried the commands below but I received the following error messages: $V,9F46,OFFLINE,ALL IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID $V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 (MVS01 is the partition) IEE305I $V,9F46, COMMAND INVALID I looked up the IEE305I message but it didn't help. It's an MVS message, not a JES3 message. Your commands are not making it to JES3. $ is not the usual JES3 command prefix. * is the default sysplex scope command prefix, though your installation may have changed it. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card)
Radoslaw, That's true enough, and the MIPS would have to be factored in to the equation. But I would have to ask how much tape activity is happening during the MIPS peak that currently drives your CPU capacity? Is there enough tape activity for the compression MIPS to bring your next upgrade forward? The majority of tape activity is usually backup and archive. It is not my experience to see a large number of tape backups running during the batch or online peak, and DFHSM archive activity is almost always scheduled during the CPU valleys. I rarely find tape jobs in the batch critical path, which makes them a workload that can run in service classes with relatively low importance. I implemented DFSMS compression for DASD in the past, and it did not have a huge impact on MIPS. I hear this is also the case for many IAM users, as well as some of the ISV compression products. I expect VTFM would be similar to these products. Yes, compression will use some extra CPU time, but the cost is measured in how it affects your upgrades. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 7:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card) Ron Hawkins wrote: Mark, A few problems I see with this article: 1) They purchased the tape libraries based on 2:1 compression and the SATA with zero compression. Virtual tape software will compress the data on disk at the same rate as tape. [...] To be fair... AFAIK the compression is made by CPU. *Mainframe CPU*. What resoucre is more expensive ? I know some installation (few dozen Terabytes) of virtual tapes on disk. The most expensive DASD is used to waste the most expensive CPU cycles and store the least important (from the performance point of view) data. Just my observation, I'm not biased to any vendor solution. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped
Thompson, Steve wrote: Folks: Just in case some of you weren't around in the mid-80s doing development and the like, IBM decided to go OCO (we will drop the cause of this decision) and the CEO (Ackers - if I remember the spelling of his name) promised that nothing would go OCO until it had been correctly documented. NaSPA was hot on IBM about this and many of us watched as this promise was, well, given short shrift. I think I've still got my Just say NO to OCO T-shirt that I bought at a NaSTEC. I wore it the next year but the NaSPA hard line against OCO seemed to have evaporated. A NaSTEC attendee pointed to my T-shirt and asked what OCO stood for. How quickly we forget... :) Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
Try issuing the JES3 Inquiry command: *I D,D=9F46 And if you get: IAT8570 DEVICE=9F46 NOT FOUND IAT8500 INQUIRY ON DEVICES COMPLETE You'll know it's not a JES3-managed device and you can just use the MVS VARY command. Larre -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISR only with SW contract
In a message dated 5/15/2007 1:29:04 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Didn't get very far as neither customer number was found in the database!!! Gave up. Seems like they could run Quicken Books and not embarrass themselves so blatantly... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card)
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:51:20 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Zelden wrote: [...] I don't know the actual numbers, but I am going by how many MVCs we send off site each day and how full they are. Do you physically move MVCs offsite ??? Why? I thought, you told us all your data is replicated using VSM Clustering. So, why to move any physical cart ? That was Shane. I never said that. BTW: Even without clustering it is not necessary to move MVCs, since you can write VTVs on two MVCs in two ACSes (in two locations). Correct. We are looking at doing one of the two methods hopefully by the end of this year. Unfortunately at the moment we still work with PTAM (Pickup Truck Access Method). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card)
In a message dated 5/15/2007 8:25:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the end of this year. Unfortunately at the moment we still work with PTAM (Pickup Truck Access Method). Don't the Feds/auditors enforce BPTAM(Bonded PTAM)? ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shared HFS
On Mon, 14 May 2007 23:22:25 -0400, Schramm, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: one. Once you turn it on for a couple of systems .. they are linked. True. I don't have just one SYS1.PARMLIB or just one SYS1.PROCLIB (although we try to keep it down to just a couple). You should try and have (at least) one that is shared between systems in the same sysplex. I had really wanted to be able to share things where it made sense.. like between a couple of systems in that were production... or the /etc between multiple system (have dev share, have prod share) but not all of them ( I have a plex with 2 tech systems, 2 dev systems and 9 prod systems ) No reason why you can't **. That is what the parms are for in BPXPRMxx. You still have to accommodate the HFS names that are used in your non-sharing systems in the sysplex, but they don't have to be part of the sharing group. ** You can't share /etc, /dev, /var, and /tmp - these all get resolved under $SYSNAME. What I ended up doing is mounting all the binary stuff read-only and sharing them. Every other file system is done system by system. The same way we share the root and other HFS files in non-HFS sharing environments - even across sysplexes. Mount read only. I would really like ZFS/HFS files to be managed in some sort of grouping... maybe more like the JES2 XCF group where we give it a name to keep them all separate within the same plex. It is... but one group. So you are limited to one group per plex, but not all systems have to play along. sharing where I can actually define what I want to share and what I don't. snip OKay... now I understand where you are going. You want to share HFS A and B in the sharing group, but not C. You are correct... once a system is in the sharing group... it's all or nothing.But if you think of sysplex as a single image (the way it was intended to be), it makes sense. But why? Is it just because it is HFS (or zFS)? I assume you have shared dasd between those systems you mentioned. Do you any MVS data sets that are shared only between prod systems and not on devl systems? Is the access level of DSN=? any different from the prod systems vs. the development systems? Explain the requirement and why you need it better please. Regards, Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group: G-ITO mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] z/OS and OS390 expert at http://searchDataCenter.com/ateExperts/ Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card)
-- snip -- BTW: Even without clustering it is not necessary to move MVCs, since you can write VTVs on two MVCs in two ACSes (in two locations). Correct. We are looking at doing one of the two methods hopefully by the end of this year. Unfortunately at the moment we still work with PTAM (Pickup Truck Access Method). -- snip -- One of the considerations that needs to be looked at when writing tape to two locations is how it is done. The cheaper method is asynchronous, namely, the logical tape gets written to the physical backend media at some time 'in the near future'. If you don't need any synchronisation between DASD and Tape at your remote location, that's OK. Depending on how busy the VSM boxes are, the writing of the logical volume to the physical media could take a while (many hours). Ensure you carefully define your response time objectives and see if you can meet them. John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Install gripe #11
Hey IBM and vendors: SMPWRK5 has not been used in about 20 years, since SMP4 went away. STOP USING THE DDDEF FOR IT ALREADY! Sheesh, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Shared HFS
On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:10:18 +0200, Víctor de la Fuente wrote: I want to prepare a Monoplex system for a easy migration into a Sysplex. So I want to implement Shared HFS without being in a Sysplex, but the IPL failed when starting USSs. My question is: Can I use the Version parameter while I'm using Sysplex(NO) parameter? Is NFS an option? We use it fairly successfully for sharing across sysplexes, largely for home directories. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
syhchronize tape gdgS
Hi, I create daily tape DR backups. I want to sychronize the GDGs for disaster recovery so that I do not have to code different version numbers in the JCL when I recover DASD. How is the best way to accomplish this? Thanks, Judy Ellis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped
On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:28:49 +1000, Greg Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thompson, Steve wrote: Folks: Just in case some of you weren't around in the mid-80s doing development and the like, IBM decided to go OCO (we will drop the cause of this decision) and the CEO (Ackers - if I remember the spelling of his name) promised that nothing would go OCO until it had been correctly documented. NaSPA was hot on IBM about this and many of us watched as this promise was, well, given short shrift. I think I've still got my Just say NO to OCO T-shirt that I bought at a NaSTEC. Did they ever sell similar T-shirts at any SHARE conferences? What year and city.if anyone remembers? ...mhyI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
As you are no doubt aware there are code page pre-requisites for DB2 V8. I have applied a ptf to SPUFI which shows the incompatibilities in code page betweed SPUFI and the ISPF terminal like this - DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI. TERMINAL CCSID: terminal-ccsid. SPUFI CCSID: spufi-ccsid. NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. In our case the terminal ccsid is 37 and the SPUFI one is 1146 (uk plus euro) in the above message. The SPUFI ccsid is 1146 because I have rebound the program(s) with that value. However, I can't find out where the ISPF ccsid is specified to enable me to change it. Any pointers. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: syhchronize tape gdgS
If you backup the volume(s) containing the catalog entries. Then restore it at DR. Import connect said catalog to the driving floor system at DR. Almost forgot - define alias pointing to usercat for DR HLQs. You won't have to worry about coding jcl pointing to specific GDG. The catalog will do it for you. -Original Message- From: Judy Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: syhchronize tape gdgS Hi, I create daily tape DR backups. I want to sychronize the GDGs for disaster recovery so that I do not have to code different version numbers in the JCL when I recover DASD. How is the best way to accomplish this? Thanks, Judy Ellis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
The SPUFI is checking DSNZPARM and DSNHDECP for the CCSID. The person who installs DB2 set those. It is a good time to review all the CCSID's in all the products because DB2 is now converting between CCSID's if they are different. CCSID conversion is not free. -- Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? -- gil It does: via the restriction who can read or update the dataset, ain't it? Kees. ** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:03:56 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? RACF would support them just fine - it simply has never been asked to do so! SMF would support them just fine, too, but it has never been asked to do so either. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Another migration from the mainframe
SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1254860,00.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FTP space error
I'm trying to FTP a really large file from a Linux FTP server to zOS. I keep ending with a B37-04 end of volume. It appears to me that FTP will not go to a secondary volume. It takes secondary allocations on the one volume and then ends when it fills the volume. The file would be SMS managed and other files that fall in the same naming scheme will go to multiple volumes. I'm wondering if it is an FTP specific problem. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? -- gil Wrong question. The proper question could possibly be: Why doesn't ALLOCATION or maybe ENQ issue a RACF query to determine if a user may use a particular resource? Please remember that RACF only answers a question of the form: Can user ??? access resource ??? in mode ???. The answer can be yes, no, or not defined. It is up to the program which issued the RACROUTE to determine what to do with the answer. Now, as to a dataset access in JCL, a job can attempt to access a dataset in many different modes (ALTER to create or delete, CONTROL for some VSAM options such as ICI, UPDATE for update or READ to read it). Except in the case of creating or deleting a dataset, the access required is not known until the program actually issues the OPEN for it. So the initiator, which allocates the dataset, cannot know before then what ACCESS to request. Now, you could argue that if the ACCESS is NONE, then the initiator could give an immediate JCL error and I would agree. But that is up to the initiator code to check and respond to. It is not up to RACF. RACF is not a traffic cop monitoring everything via some sort of hook. RACF is an information counter and if you don't ask, he doesn't go grabbing you and forcing information upon you (so to speak). -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 08:59 -0500, Mark H. Young wrote: Did they ever sell similar T-shirts at any SHARE conferences? There were buttons, of course. Search Barry Merrill's collection: http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/search.asp for OCO. -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
Assuming TN3270, the ISPF variable ZTERMCID is set by the value specified when the TN3270 session is negotiated. I don't believe you can override this inside ISPF, but I could be mistaken. That might be a question for ISPF-L. Code page Z variables are documented here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ispzdg50/11.1.1 Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Tuesday May 15 2007 07:01 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF As you are no doubt aware there are code page pre-requisites for DB2 V8. I have applied a ptf to SPUFI which shows the incompatibilities in code page betweed SPUFI and the ISPF terminal like this - DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI. TERMINAL CCSID: terminal-ccsid. SPUFI CCSID: spufi-ccsid. NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. In our case the terminal ccsid is 37 and the SPUFI one is 1146 (uk plus euro) in the above message. The SPUFI ccsid is 1146 because I have rebound the program(s) with that value. However, I can't find out where the ISPF ccsid is specified to enable me to change it. Any pointers. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP space error
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FTP space error I'm trying to FTP a really large file from a Linux FTP server to zOS. I keep ending with a B37-04 end of volume. It appears to me that FTP will not go to a secondary volume. It takes secondary allocations on the one volume and then ends when it fills the volume. The file would be SMS managed and other files that fall in the same naming scheme will go to multiple volumes. I'm wondering if it is an FTP specific problem. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems No, it is not ftp specific. I have used the command below to allow up to 20 volumes of output successfully. QUOTE SITE VCOUNT=20 UCOUNT=20 -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
There is no ccsid specified in DSNZPARM, and in our case the ccsid is correctly set to 1146 in DSNHDECP. The DSNE345I message is specifically warning about the discrepancy in the ccsid of the terminal versus the ccsid of SPUFI. The hold data of the ptf say Ensure that the user's TSO terminal configuration is updated to use a CCSID of spufi-ccsid. and in our case our terminal emulator is also using ccsid 1146. Does ISPF have its' own ccsid configured anywhere. Jim McAlpine On 5/15/07, Mike Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SPUFI is checking DSNZPARM and DSNHDECP for the CCSID. The person who installs DB2 set those. It is a good time to review all the CCSID's in all the products because DB2 is now converting between CCSID's if they are different. CCSID conversion is not free. -- Mike -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP space error
Can you specify a volume count on the unit parameter? Else you'll have to talk to the storage admins as to why this file is getting a data class which has volume count set to 1. -Original Message- From: Mark Pace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: FTP space error I'm trying to FTP a really large file from a Linux FTP server to zOS. I keep ending with a B37-04 end of volume. It appears to me that FTP will not go to a secondary volume. It takes secondary allocations on the one volume and then ends when it fills the volume. The file would be SMS managed and other files that fall in the same naming scheme will go to multiple volumes. I'm wondering if it is an FTP specific problem. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
In which case I don't quite understand because the value of ZTERMCID is 37 but our emulator is using 1146. Any further ideas. Jim McAlpine On 5/15/07, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming TN3270, the ISPF variable ZTERMCID is set by the value specified when the TN3270 session is negotiated. I don't believe you can override this inside ISPF, but I could be mistaken. That might be a question for ISPF-L. Code page Z variables are documented here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ispzdg50/11.1.1 Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Tuesday May 15 2007 07:01 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF As you are no doubt aware there are code page pre-requisites for DB2 V8. I have applied a ptf to SPUFI which shows the incompatibilities in code page betweed SPUFI and the ISPF terminal like this - DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI. TERMINAL CCSID: terminal-ccsid. SPUFI CCSID: spufi-ccsid. NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. In our case the terminal ccsid is 37 and the SPUFI one is 1146 (uk plus euro) in the above message. The SPUFI ccsid is 1146 because I have rebound the program(s) with that value. However, I can't find out where the ISPF ccsid is specified to enable me to change it. Any pointers. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP space error
Mark, I'm trying to FTP a really large file from a Linux FTP server to zOS. I keep ending with a B37-04 end of volume. It appears to me that FTP will not go to a secondary volume. It takes secondary allocations on the one volume and then ends when it fills the volume. The file would be SMS managed and other files that fall in the same naming scheme will go to multiple volumes. I'm wondering if it is an FTP specific problem. Use vcount= to specify number of tape volumes and ucount= to specify the number of candidate (dasd) volumes. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? -- gil Wrong question. The proper question could possibly be: Why doesn't ALLOCATION or maybe ENQ issue a RACF query to determine if a user may use a particular resource? Please remember that RACF only answers a question of the form: Can user ??? access resource ??? in mode ???. The answer can be yes, no, or not defined. It is up to the program which issued the RACROUTE to determine what to do with the answer. Agreed. However ENQs sometimes are performance-sensitive. ENQ time is simply to short to be increased by RACF call. From the other hand enq is done BEFORE RACF is checked against dataset authority. This check could be done before enq, thus avoiding unnecessary EMQs. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2007 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci opacony) wynosi 118.064.140 z. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchwa XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for high-availability and business continuance associated with this migration. Probably not. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Another migration from the mainframe SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gc i1254860,00.html LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP space error
On 5/15/07, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, it is not ftp specific. I have used the command below to allow up to 20 volumes of output successfully. QUOTE SITE VCOUNT=20 UCOUNT=20 -- John McKown Thanks, John, and everyone else that replied. UCOUNT was what I needed. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) writes: I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for high-availability and business continuance associated with this migration. Probably not. when we were doing the ha/cmp product, they were one of the customers we called on http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp also, I had been asked to write a section in the corporate continuous availability strategy document. most of my writing got pulled because both Rochester and POK complained (that at the time, they couldn't meet what we were doing in ha/cmp). it was also in this period that we coined the terms disaster survivability and geographic survivability (to differentiate from disaster/recovery) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#available for other drift, old email about what we had been doing about ha/cmp scaleup http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
rexx sample
Hi all, Does anybody out there have a sample in REXX to send a message to console and get a response from operator ,something like WTOR(write to operator with reply) macro in assembly? Any help is highly appretiated. Regards, Ali -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
Richards.Bob wrote: I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for high-availability and business continuance associated with this migration. Probably not. Bob Richards The intangible benefits of the mainframe environment never seem to be factored into the pricing process. Its harder to add these benefits into a proper analysis of course than it is to totally ignore them and just look at the dollars. But the lack of these benefits on the cheaper environments usually bites you in the a** sometime in the future. But by then the people making these decisions have walked away with their bonuses and leave the fallout to the peons to handle. -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- I will accept the rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. Robert A. Heinlein - The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (1966) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx sample
You probably need to run this clist under Netview, not TSO. I have Netview clists that send msgs and get responses, but we also run SA so some of the functions may not work without it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jalili Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:00 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: rexx sample Hi all, Does anybody out there have a sample in REXX to send a message to console and get a response from operator ,something like WTOR(write to operator with reply) macro in assembly? Any help is highly appretiated. Regards, Ali -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:25:39 -0500, McKown, John wrote: Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? Wrong question. The proper question could possibly be: Why doesn't ALLOCATION or maybe ENQ issue a RACF query to determine if a user may use a particular resource? Please remember that RACF only answers a question of the form: Can user ??? access resource ??? in mode ???. The answer can be yes, no, or not defined. It is up to the program which issued the RACROUTE to determine what to do with the answer. Thanks for the clarification; I stand corrected. Now, as to a dataset access in JCL, a job can attempt to access a dataset in many different modes (ALTER to create or delete, CONTROL for some VSAM options such as ICI, UPDATE for update or READ to read it). Except in the case of creating or deleting a dataset, the access required is not known until the program actually issues the OPEN for it. So the initiator, which allocates the dataset, cannot know before then what ACCESS to request. Now, you could argue that if the ACCESS is NONE, then the initiator could give an immediate JCL error and I would agree. But that is up to the initiator code to check and respond to. It is not up to RACF. RACF is not a traffic cop monitoring everything via some sort of hook. RACF is an information counter and if you don't ask, he doesn't go grabbing you and forcing information upon you (so to speak). And now I'll try to clarify my intent. The resource in question here is not the data set proper, but control of use of its name via ENQ. This is a real resource, subject to real contention as evidenced by the OP's problem. It should not be possible for interlopers to preempt it from legitimate users. Consider: //STEP1 EXEC PGM=BPXBATCH,PARM='pgm sleep ' //STEP2 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14,COND=(0,LE) //SYSUT1 DDDISP=MOD,DSN=SYS1.WHATEVER As far as I know, this job will run without error even if the owner has ACCESS=NONE to SYS1.WHATEVER. But for nearly three hours other users will be unable to allocate SYS1.WHATEVER. There ought to be enforcement of a rule against this. And, in my view, that enforcement ought more properly to be done not by allocation nor by the initiator, but by GRS, the most proximate component. And this is different from the current protocol controlling access to data sets: it's quite appropriate that a user should be denied EXC access to a PDSE even though he may have UPDATE access to edit members, for example. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
Am I the only one frightened by these statements? Luckily I don't work there. On Tue, 15 May 2007 05:14:42 -0700 willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :I don't know how to find that out. All I know is that the environment is a JES3 environemnt. :Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 05:01:46 -0700, willie bunter wrote: :I checked with our OPS department and they use *. I tried the command :but I got errors for both commands. Could it be that the command cannot be :entered via SDSF? : *V,9F46,OFFLINE,MVS01 :IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD : /*vary 9F46,offline,ALL : IAT8188 9F46 IS AN INVALID VARY FIELD :You've gotten closer. This time the command was rejected by JES3. Is 9F46 :a JES3 controlled device? -- Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: syhchronize tape gdgS
This (full volume backup/restore) certainly works for tape GDGs. The issue you are left with, if you do not move all your volumes, are the orphaned entries in the catalog for your other datasets. Generating DELETE NOSCRATCH cards and submitting them to IDCAMS can be a very painfully slow process. Several products on the market, of which T-REX is one, can SCRUB the catalogs and synchronize them with the DASD farm quickly. Another option would be to backup your catalog and 'scrub' the entries as they are loaded back into the catalog. By never restoring the entries on the reload, you never have to scrub them. Larry Crilley Dino Software Corp. Home of REORGadon: The world's first REORG While-OPEN tool for HSM http://www.dino-software.com/ 412.366.3566 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: syhchronize tape gdgS If you backup the volume(s) containing the catalog entries. Then restore it at DR. Import connect said catalog to the driving floor system at DR. Almost forgot - define alias pointing to usercat for DR HLQs. You won't have to worry about coding jcl pointing to specific GDG. The catalog will do it for you. -Original Message- From: Judy Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: syhchronize tape gdgS Hi, I create daily tape DR backups. I want to sychronize the GDGs for disaster recovery so that I do not have to code different version numbers in the JCL when I recover DASD. How is the best way to accomplish this? Thanks, Judy Ellis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
I would prefer that Dani get another babysitter. Dan Ternosky Systems Integrator - Mainframe Capacity Planner IBM Global Services - The Hartford Account Office Phone: 330-699-1630 IBM Tieline: 378-9633 Internet Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information or otherwise protected by law. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx sample
Jalili, try with this site: http://www.sscmainframe.com/freeware.htm and download program ALXRWTOR. Then assemble it and make the use you need. Hope this helps. _ Paolo Cacciari Business Continuity and Resiliency Services, IBM Global Services - South Region, EMEA --- Hi all, Does anybody out there have a sample in REXX to send a message to console and get a response from operator ,something like WTOR(write to operator with reply) macro in assembly? Any help is highly appretiated. Regards, Ali -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
On 15 May 2007 08:02:21 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Jacobs) wrote: But the lack of these benefits on the cheaper environments usually bites you in the a** sometime in the future. But by then the people making these decisions have walked away with their bonuses and leave the fallout to the peons to handle. One big problem with our big businesses (those so big that the individual stockholder doesn't have much control), is that bonuses are typically given for current profits, not long term profits. I'd like to see stock options given every year to the CEO - cashable a decade in the future. I'd give the same bonuses to GMs of sports teams, depending on team performance in the future. Athletes have to wait to join their Halls of Fame (except Vijay Singh). We don't know how good a company was run until we check the long run. It may be cheaper to buy computers that won't fit 5 years from now - when someone else is running the company. That would mean that gutting a company for current profits wouldn't pay, but investing wisely would. I'd also like to see that with politics, but politician's pay is power, and that cannot be deferred.But it is more important for a President's policy to work for the long term than for a CEO's policy. Neither should be measured by not on my term, but both should be measured by leaving a legacy that lasts.Build for the future - when the other guys are running the company/country. That said, I don't know whether it might be better in the long term to design around a powerful mainframe now - or to throw out my new system before then and replace it with new technology and a new direction. I don't see that IBM is trying to sell us on either direction, maybe because it doesn't know either. My bias is to value the system that matches my current skills. I *like* big iron. But I need to disregard my bias and prepare for the reality that will come. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes: I'd also like to see that with politics, but politician's pay is power, and that cannot be deferred.But it is more important for a President's policy to work for the long term than for a CEO's policy. Neither should be measured by not on my term, but both should be measured by leaving a legacy that lasts.Build for the future - when the other guys are running the company/country. i think that the comptroller general has suggested something similar for legislation ... that metrics are defined associated for any claimed benefits justifying some legislation ... and if the results fail to meet the metrics ... poof, its gone. however, in speeches that the comptroller general has given over the past yr or so on some aspects of medicare/medicaid legislation ... he has commented that he doesn't believe any congressman in the last fifty yrs has been capable of middle-school arithmatic. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
You may have to look at your terminal emulator as being the culprit. I don't know how ISPF sets ZTERMCID; I assume it's going out and retrieving the information from a TSO or VTAM terminal-related control block. Normally I run IBM PCOMM 5.8 with CP 1140 (37 + Euro), and here's what I get: DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI - TERMINAL CCSID: 1140 - SPUFI CCSID : 37 NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. PRESS: ENTER to continue END to return If I open a session that specifies CP 1047 (Open Systems, required to get the C brackets right), I get DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI - TERMINAL CCSID: 1047 - SPUFI CCSID : 37 NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. PRESS: ENTER to continue END to return The only difference between the two session definitions is the code page. ISPF thinks you are using CP 37. Unfortunately I don't know of a way in native TSO to find out what CCSID TSO thinks you are. Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Tuesday May 15 2007 07:37 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF In which case I don't quite understand because the value of ZTERMCID is 37 but our emulator is using 1146. Any further ideas. Jim McAlpine On 5/15/07, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming TN3270, the ISPF variable ZTERMCID is set by the value specified when the TN3270 session is negotiated. I don't believe you can override this inside ISPF, but I could be mistaken. That might be a question for ISPF-L. Code page Z variables are documented here: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ispzdg50/11.1.1 Later, Ray -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Tuesday May 15 2007 07:01 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF As you are no doubt aware there are code page pre-requisites for DB2 V8. I have applied a ptf to SPUFI which shows the incompatibilities in code page betweed SPUFI and the ISPF terminal like this - DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI. TERMINAL CCSID: terminal-ccsid. SPUFI CCSID: spufi-ccsid. NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. In our case the terminal ccsid is 37 and the SPUFI one is 1146 (uk plus euro) in the above message. The SPUFI ccsid is 1146 because I have rebound the program(s) with that value. However, I can't find out where the ISPF ccsid is specified to enable me to change it. Any pointers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server
Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal certificate. Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is updated? Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is started, so that some action is necessary to reload it? And if it has to be reloaded, what is the least disruptive way to do it? I assume restarting the TCP/IP system would do it, but that tends to make the phones ring. -- Matt Simpson -- z/OS Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 http://jms.cc.uky.edu/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server
Here are my notes to install a new certificate (port 23001 is my SSL port). TO load this certificate without recycling. 1) Take the port offline: V TCPIP,tcpip,T,STOP,PORT=23001 2) Now activate it: v tcpip,tcpip,obeyfile,dsn=SYS1.TCPPARMS($$dennis) v tcpip,tcpip,obeyfile,dsn=SYS1.TCPPARMS($$dennit) for Test LPAR Where the obeyfile member has the necessary begin VTAM and TELNETPARMS section in it. If you need more detailed examples, send me a note. Dennis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Simpson Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 8:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal certificate. Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is updated? Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is started, so that some action is necessary to reload it? And if it has to be reloaded, what is the least disruptive way to do it? I assume restarting the TCP/IP system would do it, but that tends to make the phones ring. -- Matt Simpson -- z/OS Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 http://jms.cc.uky.edu/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple Clusters
-snip--- OK. You present a cogent case for the customer's not installing ISV products into the z/OS CSIs. But if the customer chooses to be so imprudent, there's little the ISV can (or should) do to forestall it. Sprinkle in a few NPREs for selected IBM FMIDs? I think not. But, yes, supply tailorable JCL that does not presume installation in z/OS's CSIs. But is there yet a desire for placing the ISV's TARGET and DLIB zones in CSI(s) separate from the ISV's own GLOBAL zone, or am I misreading between the lines? --unsnip-- Since I'm usually maintaining multiple images, I almost always separate the target zones in separate CSI's from the GLOBAL zone. Separating the DLIB zones into separate CSI's depends on GLOBAL ZONE CSI space considerations; if the CSI starts expanding too fast, I might break out the DLIB zone(s). ---snip Does declustering zones into separate CSIs have any effect on the proliferation of SMPTLIBS? ---unsnip- Note that I've ever noticed. They belong to the GLOBAL zone. But by assigning a separate GLOBAL zone, I can assign different names and thusly different SMS attributes; This allows me to better control where they're allocated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
In a message dated 5/15/2007 10:33:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: has commented that he doesn't believe any congressman in the last fifty yrs has been capable of middle-school arithmatic. Yeah, that's the ticket put 'em on 'Are you smarter than a Fifth grader' and watch the ashes... ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx sample
Ali, You can use some code similar to this: /* REXX */ CONSOLE ACTIVATE CONSPROF SOLDISPLAY(NO) SOLNUM(100) ADDRESS CONSOLE console command DISPMSG = '' MCODE = GETMSG('DISPMSG.','SOL',,,10) DO UNTIL DISPMSG.1 = '' SAY DISPMSG.1 DISPMSG.1 = '' MCODE = GETMSG('DISPMSG.','SOL',,,10) END EXIT 0 Kurt Gramling Hi all, Does anybody out there have a sample in REXX to send a message to console and get a response from operator ,something like WTOR(write to operator with reply) macro in assembly? Any help is highly appretiated. Regards, Ali -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
On 5/15/2007 10:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? RACF does not own the SYSDSN ENQ (Allocation does), and therefore it is not RACF's job to protect who can issue those ENQs. If it is anyone's job, it is Allocation's. Allocation could, perhaps, issue a RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH to see if the user is authorized to read the data set, assuming it is an existing data set. Things get more tricky if it is a new data set, however. I can't tell for sure, but are you suggesting that a user should need higher authority (such as UPDATE) before ENQing a data set with DISP=OLD? I'm not sure I agree with that. And, of course, the OP's problem could come from a user who has it ENQed SHR, if the OP is trying to get it exclusively. By the way, gil, I don't recall seeing anything in this thread suggesting that an inappropriate user has the data set ENQed, though I suppose that is possible. Walt Farrell, CISSP z/OS Security Design, IBM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
On 15 May 2007 07:04:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? If they can open the data set, they need to be able to enqueue it for the type of access they are doing. It might be a good idea to have RACF called at allocation time to see if the requester is allowed to access the data set and if the request is exclusive possibly make sure that the requester can update it. Other than that change, system integrity requires things work as they do. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS
Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ on protected data set names? It does: via the restriction who can read or update the dataset, ain't it? No. It does not. You can grab a DSN with old or share, without opening it. The read/update is not checked until you open it. So, if you never open it, you can still lock it up. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Microsoft Claims It All
I'd rather see M$ get slapped down BIG TIME on this one. How will they ever prove We had it first against a system whose hstory predates M$ ??? Thomas Kern wrote: Or management might see that MS really does know the only way to use computers and finally get rid of all of the dinosaurs. Good luck on your interview. /Tom Kern On Mon, 14 May 2007 09:29:28 -0500, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This almost sounds like in 1999 when someone claimed a patent on a date conversion routine, and wanted to charge anyone who was converting dates in their Y2K efforts. I'm sure MS has very good lawyers working on this, but how are you going to sue millions of LInux users. The people that work on the Linux Kernel don't profit on any of it, although IBM and many of the other software companies make software for Linux that they sell for profit. This should be very interesting. If on the off chance that MS would win, how would that affect z/OS users? I can see that it might help. People might get pissed off enough at MS, and convert to a mainframe. (Oh well, its a good thought). I'm off to a job interview, and then I have to clean my Dodgeville house, so I won't be reading the list till tomorrow evening. Eric Bielefeld Milwaukee, Wisconsin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Longnecker, Dennis) wrote: TO load this certificate without recycling. 1)Take the port offline: V TCPIP,tcpip,T,STOP,PORT=23001 2)Now activate it: Thanks. Does this disrupt existing sessions? Or does it just prevent new connections for the brief time that the port is being restarted? -- Matt Simpson -- z/OS Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 http://jms.cc.uky.edu/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple Clusters
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:52:42 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: Since I'm usually maintaining multiple images, I almost always separate the target zones in separate CSI's from the GLOBAL zone. Separating the DLIB zones into separate CSI's depends on GLOBAL ZONE CSI space considerations; if the CSI starts expanding too fast, I might break out the DLIB zone(s). I've used the same CSI for the Target and DLIB zones. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:37:49 -0400, Matt Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal certificate. Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is updated? Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is started, so that some action is necessary to reload it? And if it has to be reloaded, what is the least disruptive way to do it? I assume restarting the TCP/IP system would do it, but that tends to make the phones ring. Matt, First things first. Did you update RACF or gskkyman with the new certificate? Make no mistake, varying the port offline will kill existing sessions, but it is less disruptive than recycling all of TCP/IP. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Virtual Tape Stacking Software
Lizette, VDR (Virtual Data Recovery) is much more then a just a tape stacker. Automating the stacking of VTL data to hi-density tape using a different dataset name prevents any impact on production tape processes. The recovery side of VDR allows you to recover/unstack the stacked datasets to another VTL, native tapes or disk. You can also have VDR do an INPlace recovery, which renames the VDR datasets to the original dataset name, no data movement, and allows applications to access the data directly from the stacked tape. Of course, the ICF and Tape management catalogs are updated. By the way, if you are writing HSM ML2 to Virtual VDR can also copy those and recover them at the DR site and automatically update HSM about the new tape VOLSER. Please give me a call to discuss the many features available. Regards, Don Don Bolton Director Technical Services Development 800-460-3011 Phone www.OpentechSystems.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Virtual Tape Stacking Software Gentle Listers - I have searched the archives and found a lot of discussion but nothing I was looking for. We currently have Open Tech to stack virtual tapes on one physical 3590 tape (VDR). Are there any other equivilents or is Open Tech it. We are running z/OS V1.7 with DFSMShsm. We also have DFDSS and a couple of CA products (CA1). We need to compare the Open Tech process with other vendor(s) to ensure we have the right tool for the right function. Any ideas will be appreciated. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx sample
--snip- Does anybody out there have a sample in REXX to send a message to console and get a response from operator ,something like WTOR(write to operator with reply) macro in assembly? Any help is highly appretiated. -unsnip- I have a Assembler Language routine that you can use in a CLIST for that function, if you want to try to adapt it for REXX usage. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
On 15 May 2007 09:05:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris) wrote: On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the lights on. There is almost nothing left over for either new development, or for exploitation of feature function, even if that would ultimately save money. That has become the dominant issue for most customers and probably drives the behaviors we are all seeing. They may be nuts, but they're not stupid :-) That leaves an opening for an effective way of IBM directing their RD money.And of their marketing.Energy efficiency can be done by re-using computer room heat, or by not having as much computer room heat. Getting these results from a server farm can be much harder to accomplish. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
3270 EMU settings Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF As you are no doubt aware there are code page pre-requisites for DB2 V8. I have applied a ptf to SPUFI which shows the incompatibilities in code page betweed SPUFI and the ISPF terminal like this - DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI. TERMINAL CCSID: terminal-ccsid. SPUFI CCSID: spufi-ccsid. NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. In our case the terminal ccsid is 37 and the SPUFI one is 1146 (uk plus euro) in the above message. The SPUFI ccsid is 1146 because I have rebound the program(s) with that value. However, I can't find out where the ISPF ccsid is specified to enable me to change it. Any pointers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
That leaves an opening for an effective way of IBM directing their RD money.And of their marketing.Energy efficiency can be done by re-using computer room heat, or by not having as much computer room heat. System z9 marketing has focused on energy efficiency for some time. This is not new news. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
Howard Brazee said Craddock, Chris wrote: On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the lights on. That leaves an opening for an effective way of IBM directing their RD money.And of their marketing.Energy efficiency can be done by re-using computer room heat, or by not having as much computer room heat. Getting these results from a server farm can be much harder to accomplish. When I said keeping the lights on, I meant all of the day-to-day operational costs associated with keeping the existing IT environment up and running. Energy is just one of those costs, albeit a rapidly increasing one. The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting though. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#18 Another migration from the mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another migration from the mainframe as an aside ... all the vendors that support server farms at least in the form of blade/GRID technology have done significant amounts of work on energy and cooling efficiency. in fact, cooling was one of major concerns working on ha/cmp scaleup related to these old emails http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/lhwemail.html#medusa small sample re blade/grid energy efficiency CIO Challenge: Energy Efficiency http://www.wallstreetandtech.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=192202377 from above: Like Fidelity, Wachovia has been targeting energy efficiency initiatives for the last 12 to 18 months or so. The initial spur was a move by the firm's traders in January to a new building in New York. The three trading floors have relatively low ceiling heights, where it was not possible to put in a lot of air distribution, which meant we had to think creatively to ensure we don't have an unhealthy environment for the traders, ... snip ... and: IBM Unveils New Energy-Efficient Blades http://www.hpcwire.com/hpc/1379801.html IBM to focus on energy efficiency http://www.bladewatch.com/2007/05/10/ibm-to-focus-on-energy-efficiency/ Blade innovations highlight energy efficiency opportunities http://www.it-director.com/business/content.php?cid=9135 IBM defends blades' energy efficiency http://green.itweek.co.uk/2006/10/ibm_defends_bla.html IBM Data Center and Facilities Strategy Services - high density computing data center readiness assessment http://www-935.ibm.com/services/us/index.wss/offering/its/a1025605#spotligt-data-center -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. CAN YOU CLARIFY? Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one frightened by these statements? Luckily I don't work there. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
Chris, I agree with your observations. However, my comments were directed specifically at the NYSE/SIAC situation. Did 9/11 not teach them anything? One would hope that the SEC, OCC, etc. have imposed upon them some form of regulatory guidance as it relates to HA and business continuity. If that is a valid assumption, then it can't be as valid a business case as they are presenting. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another migration from the mainframe And Bob Richards asked I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for high- availability and business continuance associated with this migration. Probably not. Well that's a fine question. Here's what I think, based on just a little bit of experience :0) with z customers... There are a small number of customers at the high end for whom the System z and parallel sysplex is the only alternative. Those are the customers who spend the time and effort to configure coupling facilities, data sharing and all of the other dozens of failure avoidance/failure mitigation features of the platform. Those (high-end) customers are NOT migrating away from the platform, but even they are being very judicious about new work that goes on the box(es). It has become a pure cost containment exercise for most - see my last paragraph below. The rest of the customers, by-and-large, have not bought into the parallel sysplex story and they still run their systems like its 1985. The only reasonable conclusion you can draw is that their availability requirements really aren't all that demanding. In effect, they don't think its worth spending the extra money and resources to get true high availability and disaster survivability. Now we could all argue over whether that's really wise, but the fact remains that those customers have made a business judgement. And those are the same customers who are, little by little, deserting the platform. For customers with less demanding requirements, there are plenty of alternatives and the fact that so many have switched and NOT gone back ought to be sobering to this community. On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the lights on. There is almost nothing left over for either new development, or for exploitation of feature function, even if that would ultimately save money. That has become the dominant issue for most customers and probably drives the behaviors we are all seeing. They may be nuts, but they're not stupid :-) LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. SunTrust and Seeing beyond money are federally registered service marks of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting though. We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the heat for the data center came from the processors. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:23:17 -0400, Gary Green wrote: SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1 254860,00.html I saw a similar story a couple months ago concerning the start of this project. I see they are making progress. I made myself an appointment to follow up with Mark Fontecchio, News Writer in 6 months for a follow up story on how it's going and whether SIAC is realizing the savings they anticipated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe
Do you really think we will get the real story/facts about the savings? On Tue May 15 12:31 , Dave Kopischke [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:23:17 -0400, Gary Green wrote: SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1 254860,00.html I saw a similar story a couple months ago concerning the start of this project. I see they are making progress. I made myself an appointment to follow up with Mark Fontecchio, News Writer in 6 months for a follow up story on how it's going and whether SIAC is realizing the savings they anticipated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
The vendor handling migration seems to be the new owner of UniKix which used to be owned by Sun a little while ago. Sun wasn't able to do much with this product, let's see how much success Clerity will have with it. Mohammad -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe
On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:34:12 -0400, Gary Green wrote: Do you really think we will get the real story/facts about the savings? No, but if you don't ask, you can't complain about the FUD they're generating with a story like this, can you I've already sent follow up requests on 3 or 4 of these kinds of stories and got nothing. But I'm not giving up. All it takes is 5 minutes and an E-Mail account. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#18 Another migration from the mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another migration from the mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#22 Another migration from the mainframe lots of old posts mentioning working on our ha/cmp product ... and/or some loosely-coupled (dating back to at least when my wife had been con'ed into going to POK to be in charge of loosely-coupled architecture) http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#hacmp when she was in POK, in charge of loosely-coupled architecture, she developed peer-coupled shared data architecture, which didn't see a lot of uptake (except for ims-hotstandby) until parallel sysplex http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#shareddata and a little followup of financial industry using blades/grids at the high-end ... including enabling them to do real-time trading algorithms ... something that they haven't been able to do before Lots of Blade Server articles http://www.eweek.com/category2/0,1874,1658862,00.asp IBM Grid Computing Solutions - financial industry http://www-03.ibm.com/grid/solutions/by_industry/financial.shtml from above: Optimized Analytic Infrastructure Drive higher margins and revenue growth by: * Turning creative quantitative insight into tested, supported, tradable investment products * Achieving near real-time and intraday decision making for on demand valuations and complex risk reporting in minutes * Reducing costs and enhancing standardization of existing analytic infrastructures ... snip ... Grid Computing for Financial Services 2007 http://www.iqpc.com/cgi-bin/templates/genevent.html?topic=233event=12603; from above: 70% of firms now deploy enterprise grids in key business areas to maximise CPU power and business capability – but are you really driving its development forward in your IT strategy? ... snip ... Grid computing: Accelerating the search for revenue and profit for financial markets http://www-03.ibm.com/industries/financialservices/doc/content/landing/973028103.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:34:12 -0400, Gary Green wrote: Do you really think we will get the real story/facts about the savings? No, but if you don't ask, you can't complain about the FUD they're generating with a story like this, can you I've already sent follow up requests on 3 or 4 of these kinds of stories and got nothing. But I'm not giving up. All it takes is 5 minutes and an E-Mail account. SNIP If you get no answer, perhaps it would be good to have a plan B, wherein you provide the LACK of results to some analyst group so they can report on the apparent failure of the initiative. It would be very interesting to get a bit more light on these things so that publicly held companies have to disclose results. [Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility. She has a full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of those too). She has commented to me many times about how the fast trackers in a company have about 3 years to show results. No results, no further upward mobility [promotions]. So she watched these fast trackers come in to a department and re-organize, change to new procedures or whatever and make lots of noise so that they had 2 or 3 completed projects to show for their time. Mind you, they didn't have to have positive results, just results.] So perhaps somehow forcing a disclosure of these hit and run tactics might get more of the analysts looking at the end results -- beyond the current quarter (I will not hold my breath). Regards, Steve Thompson -- STD disclaimers: My opinions, not necessarily those of my employer. This is not legal advice any attempt to use it as such makes the whole posting null and void. Bugs Bunny did not approve of this posting etc. etc. ab nauseum. -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:12:44 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote: The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting though. We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the heat for the data center came from the processors. At Comten in St. Paul, Minnesota, some 25+ years ago, we REMOVED the furnace completely and heated the entire headquarters building from the front- end processors, two small mainframes and plethora of terminals (plus humans and lighting fixtures). It didn't hurt that half of the building was partially underground via earthen berms. St. Paul gets a LOT colder than 32 F. but the building was always toasty. -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe
On 15 May 2007 11:06:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) wrote: [Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility. She has a full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of those too). She has commented to me many times about how the fast trackers in a company have about 3 years to show results. No results, no further upward mobility [promotions]. So she watched these fast trackers come in to a department and re-organize, change to new procedures or whatever and make lots of noise so that they had 2 or 3 completed projects to show for their time. Mind you, they didn't have to have positive results, just results.] I guess life is like school.When I was in AFROTC a few decades ago, the cadets had an organization like a USAF base. Except there wasn't much of a mission, at least not that the students had. So every term, when there were new student commanders, there was a reorganization. The requirement was to do *something*, and the skill of reorganization is a useful one. In real life, sometimes the decision to do nothing is the best one - but that decision doesn't get noticed.We notice our great leaders because bad things happened on their watch that they had to overcome. We don't know who had policies that resulted in those bad things not happening. A CIO who decides that the current direction is just fine won't get noticed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF
Jim, The PTF you describe (putting out message DSNE345I) was a part of DB2 V7, this was an enforcement PTF, eg. The exposure was always there now DB2 is telling you. We had a similar problem using CCSID 1140 (US plus euro). If you cruise IBM link or DB2-L looking for DSNE345I you will find a different solution, rebind the SPUFI plans using CCSID 37. The PTF also added an extra screen where you can tell SPUFI what you want to change the plan to. If you do not wish to do that solution, I believe there is a VTAM option of the VBUILD macro that will let you set the code page for your 1146 CCSID. The exact parm escapes me at this time. We did not do this since this would pretty much be global for all TSO users. Thanks, Fletch Dilbert - I ask for so little..and boy do I get it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF As you are no doubt aware there are code page pre-requisites for DB2 V8. I have applied a ptf to SPUFI which shows the incompatibilities in code page betweed SPUFI and the ISPF terminal like this - DSNE345I WARNING: DB2 DATA CORRUPTION CAN RESULT FROM THIS SPUFI SESSION BECAUSE THE CCSID USED BY THE TERMINAL IS NOT THE SAME AS THE CCSID USED BY SPUFI. TERMINAL CCSID: terminal-ccsid. SPUFI CCSID: spufi-ccsid. NOTIFY THE DB2 SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR. In our case the terminal ccsid is 37 and the SPUFI one is 1146 (uk plus euro) in the above message. The SPUFI ccsid is 1146 because I have rebound the program(s) with that value. However, I can't find out where the ISPF ccsid is specified to enable me to change it. Any pointers. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
VTOC FULL
Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so what utility would work? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:08:39 -0500, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I the only one frightened by these statements? No you're not ! Bruno Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve [ snip ] [Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility. She has a full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of those too). She has commented to me many times about how the fast trackers in a company have about 3 years to show results. No results, no further upward mobility [promotions]. So she watched these fast trackers come in to a department and re-organize, change to new procedures or whatever and make lots of noise so that they had 2 or 3 completed projects to show for their time. Mind you, they didn't have to have positive results, just results.] Sounds a lot like the politicians' credo: Good press, bad press; it doesn't matter, as long as you get press. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTOC FULL
Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so what utility would work? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html If you are running ICKDSF V17. Of course you need free space after the vtoc/index to expand it. The following is an example of expanding the VTOC and the Index using the EXTVTOC and EXTINDEX parameters. //EXAMPLE JOB // EXEC PGM=ICKDSF //VOLDD DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3380,VOL=SER=TMP121 //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=A //SYSIN DD* REFORMAT DDNAME(VOLDD) VERIFY(TMP121) EXTVTOC(200) EXTINDEX(16) /* -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- I will accept the rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. Robert A. Heinlein - The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (1966) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RMM web service web server(s)
I just read RMM IC Guide. It says: go to the administrative console of your z/OS WebSphere Application Server. Q: Does it require WAS *or* HTTP Server ? Background is quite obvious IMHO: HTTP is no-cost feature of the system, while WAS is fee based. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2007 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości opłacony) wynosi 118.064.140 zł. W związku z realizacją warunkowego podwyższenia kapitału zakładowego, na podstawie uchwał XVI WZ z dnia 21.05.2003 r., kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA może ulec podwyższeniu do kwoty 118.760.528 zł. Akcje w podwyższonym kapitale zakładowym będą w całości opłacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM loses employee data
FUD from PC auditors and software/hardware sales folks. Such mainframe files are encoded. Every file is in a unique, propriety, unpublished format. Decoding is near impossible without an intimate knowledge of and access to record layout documentation. Even then, intimate knowledge of exactly how the file was created would be a critical first step. Of course the file could eventually be decoded and the content compromised. But the same is true for encrypted files. I daresay cracking the encryption is somewhat more viable because there is ample software available to do just that. My $0.02 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Duane Reaugh Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBM loses employee data If you work for IBM and have worked for IBM in the past, you might want to look at this URL http://www-1.ibm.com/afteribm/us/inquire.shtml It appears a vendor lost some tapes containing IBM employee data with things like SSN, DOB, Address. The tapes were not encrypted. Maybe IBM should look into a product like FDRcrypt from Innovation. Duane Reaugh DTS Software NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISR only with SW contract
This is exactly the point. I've been told that if a customer does not have a SW support contract, he won't be able get a ShopzSeries id anymore; no id, no PTFs via ISR. Weird. (No ServerPac either. Very weird.) This all sounds very fishy, but I'll see what I can find out and report back to the list. OK, I verified with someone in IBM Fulfillment. He assures me there are no requirements for any kind of Software Support Contract in order to register for a ShopzSeries userid. For the userid to be authenticated you will of course need to have a valid IBM Customer Number, but no other requirements exist. Therefore, to use SMP/E Internet Service Retrieval you do not need to have a SW Support contract. If anyone experiences something different, or is told something different, please let me know, with details such as customer name and country, so I may follow up appropriately. (Sorry Shane, but Business Partners are a different story, and that issue remains as is.) Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM web service web server(s)
R.S. wrote: I just read RMM IC Guide. It says: go to the administrative console of your z/OS WebSphere Application Server. Q: Does it require WAS *or* HTTP Server ? Background is quite obvious IMHO: HTTP is no-cost feature of the system, while WAS is fee based. Ahhh, yes. This is why I built my suite of courses to build a webserver on your z/OS system using HTTP: no need to get WebSphere until you need some fancy dancy features, such as EJBs. A little training and some work and your running a sophisticated website. From an earlier post: FastPath to z/OS-hosted Web Sites Host a Web site on your z/OS platform, without buying WebSphere. Use your existing COBOL (or PL/I or Assembler) programmers to develop and maintain a web site on your z/OS system (no need to hire new staff). In just 10 days (instead of 26 days) we can train a dozen or so of your z/OS developers (or a small, select team) how to do this! For a one time charge, with some special benefits (read on). To implement the FastPath approach, we have extracted just the essential courses needed to bring experienced z/OS developers up to speed. In 10 days (two weeks) we would teach this sequence of courses: * Introduction to z/OS UNIX * You and z/OS and The World Wide Web * Introduction to CGIs on z/OS * one of our language-specific CGI writing courses (COBOL, PL/I, Assembler, or REXX) What the students will learn: + How to run under the z/OS UNIX shell (omvs) + The UNIX HFS file system + Environment variables: what they are, how to use + 50+ UNIX commands + Copying files between HFS and classic MVS formats + oedit, obrowse, and ishell + How to access HFS files from non-UNIX apps + ISPF 3.17, the UNIX Directory List utitlity (z/OS 1.8+) + Basic flow of data on the Web + Building a web site on z/OS UNIX + HTML and XHTML - extensive, standards based + X/HTML style: attributes, elements, style sheets + CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) + Client side maps + Embedding multimedia + JavaScript - solid, practical introduction + DOM - the Document Object Model - solid, practical intro. + Forms and controls + Frames and Framesets + Creating and using cookies + Writing and using CGI programs (COBOL, PL/I, Assembler, or REXX) which is enough to create an interesting web site, running under z/OS, which can serve static pages as well as dynamically build and serve web pages using CGI technology. Note also that many of these skills are transferable to other UNIX and Web-related environments. One time price: * In the continental US: $22,000 * Outside the US:$25,000 Price is _all inclusive_: * Tuitions for up to 16 students * Instructor travel and living Student materials: * We ship you pdf files, you do the printing * AND you get to keep the pdf files for the print masters! (over 1200 pages of content) (but no instructor notes nor lecture versions) Option: two sets of sessions (total four weeks) * Two offerings run in parallel (morning afternoon) * Train twice as many people for less than twice the price * All students can work half days and be in class half days * Price: $40,000 anywhere in the world Here's a chance to give the technology a trial run at a very reasonable price and low investment of time. z/OS: not just for batch, CICS, and IMS any more. What's missing? Well, to get all the details, bells, and whistles, students would normally take a much fuller curriculum; for the FastPath we have chosen the central courses that students can use to build on, copying and modifying code to meet their needs. The fuller curriculum provides deeper and wider coverage of the underlying skills. Any FastPath student who feels they need more in-depth information can always go back to specific courses in the full curriculum as needed. The standard, full curriculum would be something like this: * Using LE Services in z/OS - 3 days * Language specific updates (Enterprise COBOL, HLASM 1.5, etc.) (2-4 days, depending on language) * Secrets of Inter-Language Communication in z/OS (w/ DLLs) - 3.5 days * Introduction to z/OS UNIX - 3 days * Shell script programming in z/OS UNIX - 3 days * You and z/OS and the World Wide Web - 5 days * Developing Applications for z/O UNIX - 3 days * Introduction to CGIs in z/OS - 1 day * Language-specific CGI courses - 1 day each Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET
Re: VTOC FULL
Thanks all. Have to mount it PRIVATE and should be ok. Thanks again. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Mark Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VTOC FULL Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so what utility would work? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html If you are running ICKDSF V17. Of course you need free space after the vtoc/index to expand it. The following is an example of expanding the VTOC and the Index using the EXTVTOC and EXTINDEX parameters. //EXAMPLE JOB // EXEC PGM=ICKDSF //VOLDD DD DISP=SHR,UNIT=3380,VOL=SER=TMP121 //SYSPRINT DDSYSOUT=A //SYSIN DD* REFORMAT DDNAME(VOLDD) VERIFY(TMP121) EXTVTOC(200) EXTINDEX(16) /* -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- I will accept the rules that you feel necessary to your freedom. I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. Robert A. Heinlein - The Moon is a Harsh Mistress (1966) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: VTOC FULL
Bob, I think your answer is to offload all datasets to tape, clip/init the pack with a bigger VTOC and then reload everything back down. If it is SMS managed, then you would QUINEW the pack, allow it to drain and then do the clip/init and put it back in the storage group. Or make a new volumes with the size you need and use DFDSS to migrate the data set (including recataloging the data sets) to the new volumes. Then clip/init with a bigger VTOC. I am not aware of a vendor product that could do that on the fly. However, if they could it would rely on the tracks next to the vtoc being empty (ie. no data sets on them.) Lizette Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so what utility would work? Thanks all. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Another migration from the mainframe
I was ajust about to say, I had seen the computer room heat used to heat the building, but I couldn't remember the site. Thanks Bill From: Bob Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another migration from the mainframe Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 13:12:44 -0400 The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting though. We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the heat for the data center came from the processors. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ Catch suspicious messages before you open themwith Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_protection_0507 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html