Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
And the question of potential zIIP savings is rapidly getting complicated
because of recent announcements from IBM and CA, notably, about additional
workload that will run on the zIIP.  (And zAAP for that matter.)

I think the most realistic way (if you can do it) is to take a look at RMF
reports to see what's eligible in your actual environment.

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Re: Shared ICP between 2 SYSPLEXES

2007-05-17 Thread Cwi Jeret
Hello Steve,

Thanks for Your reply,  I found the document You pointed to, and the
restriction You talked about is written there .

Best regards.  Cwi jeret

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Which concatenated DD a member was found in after a FIND macro.

2007-05-17 Thread MASSIMO BIANCUCCI
After issuing a FIND macro (svc 18), I'd like to know which is the dsname 
(concatenated DD) the macro found the member in.
 
Manual states that FIND macro, after a successful completion causes the system 
to use the address of the first block of a specified partitioned data set 
member as the starting point for the next READ macro for the same data set.
 
So I think somewhere in the system there's a control block or whatever that 
make me able to find out which dsname is the member in.
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Best regards.
 

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IT- Operations - CSS - MSY

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Re: Duplicate CTC addresses

2007-05-17 Thread Errol Van staden
Thanks Rick and Chris. 

maybe I should rather look at a networking solution such as Enterprise 
Extender on APPN to avoid the CTCs for LPAR to LPAR communication 
altogether. Messing around with duplicate addresses on unattached LPARs on 
HCD is probably too risky.

Thanks again

Errol

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Convert HFS to ZFS in z/os 1.7

2007-05-17 Thread Jose Luis Fernandez
Hi, 

We are doing the conversion HFS to ZFS with the utility BPXWH2Z in  
batch.  
We create ZFS in mode compatibility.
The case that we observed is described as follows:  
HFS files: HFSACB.TEST and HFSACB.TEST.SEQ   
ZFS file: UFSACB.TEST   
Migration parameters: BPXWH2Z -VC HFSACB.TEST UFSACB.TEST   

Process BPXWH2Z first migrates HFSACB.TEST in UFSACB.TEST   
and then migrates HFSACB.TEST.SEQ in UFSACB.TEST too.   
Files with same names are REPLACED in the second migration. 
This is very dangerous because is possible that the process 
REPLACE importants files for any aplications, systems, etc. 

This is the process detail: 

ISPSTART CMD(BPXWH2Z -VC HFSACB.TEST UFSACB.TEST)   
-getting ds list for HFSACB.TEST
-getting ds info for HFSACB.TEST
-getting ds info for HFSACB.TEST.SEQ
-getting ds info for UFSACB.TEST
-getting ds info for UFSACB.TEST
Migrating HFSACB.TEST   12:01:23
copying HFSACB.TEST to UFSACB.TEST Blocks to copy: 10   
- cd /tmp/bpxwh2z.T751629.12:01:22.hfs; /bin/pax -rw -peW - 
XCM . /tmp/bpxwh2z.T7   
Migration complete for HFSACB.TEST12:01:24  
Migrating HFSACB.TEST.SEQ   12:01:24
copying HFSACB.TEST.SEQ to UFSACB.TEST Blocks to copy: 11   
- cd /tmp/bpxwh2z.T751629.12:01:22.hfs; /bin/pax -rw -peW - 
XCM . /tmp/bpxwh2z.T7   
Migration complete for HFSACB.TEST.SEQ12:01:24  
T751629.T751629A.JOB04839.D103.? was preallocated (no free was  
done)   
  
Is it the normal process? The are some parameters to avoid this?

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How do I build a stand alone z/OS

2007-05-17 Thread Mohan
Hi,

Here we had activated 2 LPAR's,  need to install the z/OS  subsystems.

As a first step we are planning to install the z/OS, is there any way i
could build a systempac kinda  use it for future LPAR's.

For example there is no need of the samplib  other lib's , etc... in the
new LPAR. 
Also there are other datasets under z17 HLQ which is not required for
running the z/OS. Is there a approach/process needs to be followed for this,
to identify  isolate them, so that only z/OS runtime lib's are copied in to
the new LPAR to make z/OS run. 

Please send me your valuable sugesstions  any process/downloads(from CBT
etc) followed in your previous installations.

Thank you for your time.

Thanks

Mohan

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Re: LRECL of Spanned Records

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:54:58 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

 1 to 32,760 for non-VSAM data sets.

But what is the rationale for that limit?

Anyway, by experiment, that statement is incorrect (or at least
inapplicable).

What experiment?  How is it incorrect or inapplicable?

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Re: Which concatenated DD a member was found in after a FIND macro.

2007-05-17 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Massimo,
I don't believe that this information is returned when using the FIND macro 
with a member name.  If however, you construct a BLDL list for the member, the 
data returned will include the TTR of the member, along with a field K which is 
the concatenation number (0 based).  You can then issue the FIND macro with the 
DE operand pointing at the TTR from the BLDL.
Hope this helps,
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software LLC
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
  

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Subject: Which concatenated DD a member was found in after a FIND macro.

After issuing a FIND macro (svc 18), I'd like to know which is the dsname 
(concatenated DD) the macro found the member in.
 
Manual states that FIND macro, after a successful completion causes the system 
to use the address of the first block of a specified partitioned data set 
member as the starting point for the next READ macro for the same data set.
 
So I think somewhere in the system there's a control block or whatever that 
make me able to find out which dsname is the member in.
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Best regards.
 

Massimo Biancucci

IT- Operations - CSS - MSY

Via degli Ontani, 25

36100 - Vicenza (VI)

Phone: +39 0444558110

Fax: +39 0444558232

Mobile: +39 3482558906

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Re: Enterprise Class? (Was Virtual tape limits)

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:22:12 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote:

    If a vendor tries
telling you that their competitor's product is not Enterprise Class, I
would tend to chalk that up to FUD, and the vendor just trying to get
you to buy their product.

Yes, and that they can't (or won't) give you details about how they differ from 
the competition.

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Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
 
 [ snip ]
 
 I think the most realistic way (if you can do it) is to take 
 a look at RMF reports to see what's eligible in your actual 
 environment.

Thanks, but the problem there is we don't know exactly what to look for.
What constitutes an eligible workload, beyond the too-general SRB
enclave?  And would DB2 v7 show it?

-jc-

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Re: LRECL of Spanned Records

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 16 May 2007 15:37:16 -0700, GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS wrote:

The LRECL is driven by 4 bytes (first two bytes as nulls) inserted in
front of each record to hold the record length as a binary integer.

Huh?  The RDW is included in the LRECL, and the length is in the first two 
bytes of that word.

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Re: Top 10 software install gripes

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 May 2007 00:23:23 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:

For 15 years I have allocated at least one cylinder for directory space.
Never had a STOW problem.

Really?  You never allocate less than 674 directory blocks?

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Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
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The only way to get an idea o how much of your DB2 version 7 work is
zIIP-eligible that I know of is to get IBM involved and trust them to
give you good numbers.  Because DB2 version 8 is the first DB2 to have
zIIP-eligible work, those fields in the RMF report will stay zero until
DB2 v8 is up and running.

I know its not the answer you wanted but it's the one I got when I
asked.

Jim Horne
Lowe's Companies, Inc.

John Chase wrote:
Thanks, but the problem there is we don't know exactly what to look for.
What constitutes an eligible workload, beyond the too-general SRB
enclave?  And would DB2 v7 show it?

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Re: Top 10 software install gripes

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:44:28 -0400, Pinnacle wrote:


 My gripe is that there is NO REASON for a vendor to be stingy with
 directory blocks. I hate it when the initial install goes OK, then the
 first maintenance tape causes me 5 runs because 4 datasets run out of
 directory blocks.

THANK YOU  I took so much crap for this one.  Guess you and I are
the only ones that think running out of directory blocks during maintenance
because the initial install specified 10 is stupid.


I agree completely with this.  I did question the multiple of 45, but PDS 
directories should be allocated with plenty of space.  For a very small 
directory 
(maybe under 20 blocks) I like to see at least double what is used.  For a 
large 
directory (maybe 500 blocks) I like to see at least 20% free.  Maybe a little 
less if it is a load library and no growth is expected.

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Re: Top 10 software install gripes

2007-05-17 Thread R.S.

Tom Marchant wrote:

On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:44:28 -0400, Pinnacle wrote:


My gripe is that there is NO REASON for a vendor to be stingy with
directory blocks. I hate it when the initial install goes OK, then the
first maintenance tape causes me 5 runs because 4 datasets run out of
directory blocks.

THANK YOU  I took so much crap for this one.  Guess you and I are
the only ones that think running out of directory blocks during maintenance
because the initial install specified 10 is stupid.



I agree completely with this.  I did question the multiple of 45, but PDS 
directories should be allocated with plenty of space.  For a very small directory 
(maybe under 20 blocks) I like to see at least double what is used.  For a large 
directory (maybe 500 blocks) I like to see at least 20% free.  Maybe a little 
less if it is a load library and no growth is expected.




I think everyone agrees that directory should have safe margin for 
updates. However the discussion was about magic numbers like 44,45, or 
46. Spare directory blocks are obvious, any of the numbers above not. 
Despite of discussion noone explained why these numbers (or at least any 
of them) are so magic. Hint: fit in the track is absolutely not 
reasonable.



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Re: How do I build a stand alone z/OS

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 May 2007 04:46:12 -0500, Mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Here we had activated 2 LPAR's,  need to install the z/OS  subsystems.

As a first step we are planning to install the z/OS, is there any way i
could build a systempac kinda  use it for future LPAR's.

For example there is no need of the samplib  other lib's , etc... in the
new LPAR.
Also there are other datasets under z17 HLQ which is not required for
running the z/OS. Is there a approach/process needs to be followed for this,
to identify  isolate them, so that only z/OS runtime lib's are copied in to
the new LPAR to make z/OS run.

Please send me your valuable sugesstions  any process/downloads(from CBT
etc) followed in your previous installations.

Thank you for your time.


I have some examples on my cbt file - file 434 and in the JOBs section
of my web site (URL below in my signature).  

If you don't need TCPIP then you can use the ONEPAK* examples - 
otherwise you need the TWOPAK* examples (which can fit on
a single 3390-9).  I last updated them for z/OS 1.6 but was just considering
updating them for z/OS 1.8.  If you are running z/OS 1.7, there are only
minor changes that need to be made (new LNKLST lib for example).  You
can get those from the migration manual and / or looking at one of your
1.7 systems.

Cheers,

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Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 16 May 2007 13:13:00 -0500, Chase, John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi, All,

Looking for (pointers to) real-world data on software license cost
savings attributable to zIIP processors:  Percentage reduction in
chargeable MSUs or VWLC dollar costs, and specific types of 
workloads
that qualified for execution on the zIIP.  Currently running z/OS 1.7
and getting ready to upgrade to DB2 v8, with z/OS 1.9 on the plate 
for
early next year.  z9-EC and z9-BC in parallel sysplex.

Hi John,
Have a look at the following url (http://www-
03.ibm.com/systems/z/ziip/about.html) which describes a new FMID 
JBB77S9 (z/OS 1.6) and JBB772S (z/OS 1.7) which allows for the 
specification of keyword PROJECTCPU=YES in IEAOPTxx. This then 
allows you to estimate the amount of workload that could be offloaded 
onto a zAAP/zIIP. You can then use the RMF Workload Activity report to 
review the information.

The above functionality will be standard in z/OS 1.8.

I am in the process of installing the above FMID on to my z/OS 1.7 
environment.

Hope this helps.

Roger

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Re: RMM web service web server(s)

2007-05-17 Thread R.S.

Mike Wood wrote:
Radoslaw, Yes, the book is correct; the web service for DFSMSrmm is shipped 
as a Enterprise ARchive for deployment under WAS. It requires a Java run-time 
and the WAS environment to get to the web service.  We ship a sample client 
that makes it real easy to demonstrate...  But yes, assumption is you 
already have a WAS environment.  That is all we tested.  I would not expect 
anyone to purchase WAS for the sole purpose of hosting our web service.


We understand the requirement for something that would work with a non-
WAS environment and know that it is quite straightforward (for those with the 
knowledge and RAD skills) to use the code we ship and adapt it to create a 
Web ARchive instead that can be deployed for example under Tomcat.

I have no requirements, just wanted to evaluate new features.

An HTTP server is required, but is not enough to handle web services. 

Just out of interest, do you have ideas about how/where you would use the 
web service ?


Mike,
I don't know. First I want to see it and learn a little bit, then I 
could say something about it. Unfortunately it's not an option, because 
the installation I work on, has no WAS.
The other new feature I found is TCP/IP client/server solution. Sounds 
very promising.


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Re: LRECL of Spanned Records

2007-05-17 Thread Bill Wilkie
Though the maximum record length is 32767, you need an LLBB for the BDW and 
an LLBB for the RDW.


Bill


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Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:38:25 -0600

 3 //STEP EXEC  PGM=IEFBR14
 4 //SYSUT1DD   UNIT=SYSALLDA,RECFM=VBS,DSORG=PS,SPACE=(1,1),
   //  LRECL=32767
   //*
  STMT NO. MESSAGE
 -
 4 IEF638I SPECIFIED NUMERIC EXCEEDS MAXIMUM ALLOWED IN THE LRECL 
SUBPARAMETER OF THE DCB FIELD


Why?

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z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread David Day
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to some doc 
pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would someone try this 
link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to view the page? 

Thanks, 

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
I was able to access the link without a problem.

Has your firewall changed on your system that allows you out to the internet?

Lizette

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http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to some doc 
pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would someone try this 
link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to view the page? 

Thanks, 

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Hardee, Charles H
I can get there just fine using the link you supplied.

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http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to
some doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would
someone try this link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to
view the page? 

Thanks, 

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Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Shane
I'm inclined to go along with Jim.
Rogers solution will be good for DB2 V8+ shops - John mentioned a V7
environment.
I am similarly constrained.

Shane ...

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:57:46 -0500, David Day wrote:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to some
doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would someone try
this link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to view the page? 

Worked once for me.  Now broken.

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
No problems in Indiana.

Thanks,

Fletch 

Dilbert - I ask for so little..and boy do I get it.
 

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http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to
some doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would
someone try this link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to
view the page? 

Thanks, 

 

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Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roger Lowe
 
 
 Hi John,
 Have a look at the following url (http://www-
 03.ibm.com/systems/z/ziip/about.html) which describes a new FMID
 JBB77S9 (z/OS 1.6) and JBB772S (z/OS 1.7) which allows for 
 the specification of keyword PROJECTCPU=YES in IEAOPTxx. This 
 then allows you to estimate the amount of workload that could 
 be offloaded onto a zAAP/zIIP. You can then use the RMF 
 Workload Activity report to review the information.

Thanks!

I wonder if it can give any projections before we get DB2 v8 up and
running?  (Currently running DB2 v7.)

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Day
 
 http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/
 
 Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems 
 getting to some doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to 
 the above.  Would someone try this link and let me know if 
 you get an error, or am able to view the page? 

No problems at all from Chicagoland USA.

-jc-

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
No problem 


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On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:57:46 -0500, David Day wrote:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to 
some doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would 
someone try this link and let me know if you get an error, or am able
to view the page?

Worked once for me.  Now broken.

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:07:31 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:57:46 -0500, David Day wrote:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to some
doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would someone try
this link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to view the page?

Worked once for me.  Now broken.

Seems to be intermittent, or maybe it's fixed.  Too bad they don't put it on an 
enterprise class server.

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Jon Brock
It isn't just those pages.  Just about every time I have gone to ibm.com for 
any reason over the past week or so I have had problems retrieving pages.  It 
has been a source of great frustration for me.  (Oddly enough, IBMLink is the 
only thing I have found to be halfway reliable over that time span.)  

I don't know what has been going on over there, but it isn't making them look 
good.

Jon

  


snip
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to some doc 
pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would someone try this 
link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to view the page? 
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S01D abend Reason Code CF050311 while importing Dump

2007-05-17 Thread Ankur Batra
Hi Shane,

IEFUSI SMF exit is in place on our system. I am not sure this is affecting the 
jobs and what should be changed.

Please advise.

Thanks.
Ankur Batra

IEFUSI in play ???

Shane ...
 
 I am getting S01D abend Reason Code CF050311 while trying to import a 
Dump 
 in Dumpmaster. The explaination of the reason code says : The new 
current 
 size exceeds the maximum size for the data space and Hiperspace. 
 Can you suggest what should be done to correct this?

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Re: Report on TSO usage

2007-05-17 Thread Marty French
File 19 on CBT, Program FLSMFJOB will report TSO logon's.  You can 
mask the jobs on the batch JCL so that only TSO ID's will be reported.  
Of course, this is after they logon and then logoff.  

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Getting to publications web pages now.

2007-05-17 Thread David Day
I re-booted the modem, router, and PC.  Guess something had changed.  Router 
supposedly has a built in firewall, but I don't understand how it would have 
let me get to some pages, and not others.  Anyway, thanks all who responded for 
the help.

--Dave Day

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Re: Top 10 software install gripes

2007-05-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Really?  You never allocate less than 674 directory blocks?

At the price of today's disk, why not?
I have better things to occupy my time than worry about directory problems.

One cylinder it is!

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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread John Eells

David Day wrote:

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/

Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to some doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would someone try this link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to view the page? 


snip

I don't pretend to understand why or how all of our websites are 
set up.  But my understanding is that for at least the System z 
web pages the numbers in the URLs (such as the -03 in www-03) 
route you to specific servers.


When this happens you might try using www instead to see whether 
you get directed to a different (e.g., backup) server.


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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Larry DiCioccio
Works fine... 

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David Day wrote:
 http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/
 
 Fro the past two days I've been having on and off problems getting to
some doc pages.  This morning I can't even get to the above.  Would
someone try this link and let me know if you get an error, or am able to
view the page? 
 
snip

I don't pretend to understand why or how all of our websites are 
set up.  But my understanding is that for at least the System z 
web pages the numbers in the URLs (such as the -03 in www-03) 
route you to specific servers.

When this happens you might try using www instead to see whether 
you get directed to a different (e.g., backup) server.

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Re: LRECL of Spanned Records

2007-05-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:56:57 +, Bill Wilkie wrote:

Though the maximum record length is 32767, you need an LLBB for the BDW and
an LLBB for the RDW.

Re-read the Subject line.  The JCL RM states clearly that for spanned records
the LRECL may _exceed_ the BLKSIZE.  And the LLBB for the RDW is _included_
in the LRECL, so neither subtraction should be performed.

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Subject: LRECL of Spanned Records

  4 //SYSUT1DD   UNIT=SYSALLDA,RECFM=VBS,DSORG=PS,SPACE=(1,1),
//  LRECL=32767

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Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Horne, Jim - James S
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John Chase wrote:
I wonder if it can give any projections before we get DB2 v8 up and
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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/17/2007 8:16:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Too bad  they don't put it on an 
enterprise class  server.




Probably don't have anybody left with enterprise class  education!



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Re: z/os publications...can't get to website...help wanted

2007-05-17 Thread Thompson, Steve
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In a message dated 5/17/2007 8:16:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Too bad  they don't put it on an
enterprise class  server.




Probably don't have anybody left with enterprise class  education!
SNIP

Wonder if this has to do with Best Practices?

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Re: Report on TSO usage

2007-05-17 Thread Matthew Stitt
If you have the COBOL compiler, file 529 will also report on the type 30's.
 You will also need file 527 for some subprograms.

On Thu, 17 May 2007 08:30:10 -0500, Marty French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

File 19 on CBT, Program FLSMFJOB will report TSO logon's.  You can
mask the jobs on the batch JCL so that only TSO ID's will be reported.
Of course, this is after they logon and then logoff.


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Re: Enterprise Class? (Was Virtual tape limits)

2007-05-17 Thread Howard Brazee
Maybe we should ask this over in the Star Trek newsgroup...

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Big Blue goes Green

2007-05-17 Thread Ed Finnell
Eggs and ham not withstanding. All part of the current eNews letter.
 
_http://www.ibm.com/ibm/ideasfromibm/us/datacenter/?sa_campaign=message/ideas/
leadspace/all/energyefficiencyflash_ 
(http://www.ibm.com/ibm/ideasfromibm/us/datacenter/?sa_campaign=message/ideas/leadspace/all/energyefficiencyflash)
  
 
or tiny'd
 
_www.tinyurl.com/34bhaf_ (http://www.tinyurl.com/34bhaf) 



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Adding a zAAP or zIIP

2007-05-17 Thread McKown, John
I know that the characterization of a CP as a general purpose or IFL
or CFL or zAAP or zIIP is simply a matter of which microcode is loaded
into it. Is is possible to non disruptively add a zAAP or zIIP to a
z9BC? I.e. does the machine need to be down or a POR done? What about
the LPAR that I want to use it on? Does that require a DEACTIVATE
followed by a change to the LPAR defination followed by an ACTIVATE
(yes, most likely a stupid question).

Related: what about a totally new crypto card? Does it require a
hardware outage or it is hot installable? If it is hot installable, can
I then just start using it, or does the LPAR defination need to be
messed with?

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Re: Payback on zIIPs

2007-05-17 Thread Ray Mullins
No, it can't.  DB2 V7 doesn't have the ability to build zIIP eligible
enclaves.

My understanding of PROJECTCPU=YES is that if the zIIP-eligible bit is on
for the enclave definition but thou hast no zIIP installed, the appropriate
buckets are incremented.  (Based on discussions with those who had
discussions with the right IBM folks.)

Later,
Ray

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Subject: Re: Payback on zIIPs

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Roger Lowe
 
 
 Hi John,
 Have a look at the following url (http://www-
 03.ibm.com/systems/z/ziip/about.html) which describes a new FMID
 JBB77S9 (z/OS 1.6) and JBB772S (z/OS 1.7) which allows for 
 the specification of keyword PROJECTCPU=YES in IEAOPTxx. This 
 then allows you to estimate the amount of workload that could 
 be offloaded onto a zAAP/zIIP. You can then use the RMF 
 Workload Activity report to review the information.

Thanks!

I wonder if it can give any projections before we get DB2 v8 up and
running?  (Currently running DB2 v7.)

-jc-

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Re: Getting to publications web pages now.

2007-05-17 Thread Chris Mason

David

In other words you flicked the switch on the surge suppressor into which the 
plugs for the modem, router and PC are plugged. g


If you are having the sort of problem you described, you should have a 
procedure which is more machine-friendly that the universal re-boot 
procedure habitually described in fora such as this as the general remedy 
for all ills with the toy boxes.


One I have, which - unless someone can produce a better suggestion - ticks 
all the boxes, is to ping my name server. If this works, it means the boxes 
in my office are working, the ISP router is working and the ISP's name 
server - which may or may not be separate from the router - is working. I 
then round this off for good measure with calling up the web site of the ISP 
organisation which I assume won't be too far away from the ISP router.


If all this works, there's nothing I can do about a problem with a 
particular site - or, as would appear to be the case with IBM - a collection 
of sites.


Chris Mason

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I re-booted the modem, router, and PC.  Guess something had changed. 
Router supposedly has a built in firewall, but I don't understand how it 
would have let me get to some pages, and not others.  Anyway, thanks all 
who responded for the help.


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Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Yuhas
In response to SCR, I am so glad to discover that I am not alone in my
'unappreciation' of the product.  I am installing 1.7 via ServerPac.  I
was able to download the manuals and extract them.  I had some extra
work to do, but, I am using the PDF versions and am quite happy just
'pointing  clicking' to read the manual.

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Re: Alias

2007-05-17 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Steely
 
 I have a load module which I would like to make several alias 
 mods. What is the best way to accomplish this?
  
 We are z/OS v1r7.

Not sure I understand the question, but in the simple case just
re-linkedit the load module specifying the desired aliases (and
optionally entrypoints) using the ALIAS control statement.

See
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2B150/7.2
.

-jc-

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Re: Alias

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Jacobs

Mark Steely wrote:

I have a load module which I would like to make several alias mods. What
is the best way to accomplish this?
 
We are z/OS v1r7.
 
Thank You


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Re-Linkedit the load module to add aliases.

Include oldloadmod
Entry entrypt
other controlcards if needed
Alias x,y,z
Name oldloadmod


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Re: Alias

2007-05-17 Thread Bruce Black


I have a load module which I would like to make several alias mods. What
is the best way to accomplish this?
You can add binder control statements to assign aliases when you link 
the load module.  If you don't want to recompile, you can relink the 
module and assign aliases.


The IBM utility IEBUPDTE says it can assign aliases in a PDS or PDSE but 
they don't provide any examples.


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Mod54 Users

2007-05-17 Thread Craig Bakken
We experienced data loss on 3390 mod54 described by APAR OA20333.  This APAR is 
now closed.  If you are a user of mod54s you should review this APAR.  We have 
applied the fix and it does correct the problem.  
   
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Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card)

2007-05-17 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 16 May 2007 20:47:49 -0500, Russell Witt wrote:

Actually, CA announced last February at Share that both CA-Vtape and CA 
Tape Encryption will be using the zIIP (if available) for both compression and 
encryption. So, while a zIIP is not free; it is much cheaper then main CPU 
cycles. Plus, since a zIIP doesn't count as mainframe cycles you don't have to 
pay software upgrade fee's.


It's interesting that IBM would allow that kind of workload to be diverted to a 
zIIP. I would have thought they'd prefer you utilize the cryptographic 
coprocessor and thus sell another expensive specialty engine.

Doesn't IBM specify the type of work that can go to a specialty engine ??? My 
impression is IBM wants to control that fairly tightly. Maybe not ???

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Re: Adding a zAAP or zIIP

2007-05-17 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
CP's of any type can be added dynamically to the processor without any
POR required. Depending on the LPAR activation profile you can use the
CP's immediately if you have reserved the correct types in the
activation profile. (we have a standard that any CP field that allows
reservation we will reserve at least 2 for dynamic activation.

Haven't tried to add crypto cards dynamically as we order the boxes with
them.  

Jerry Whitteridge
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 I know that the characterization of a CP as a general purpose or IFL
 or CFL or zAAP or zIIP is simply a matter of which microcode is loaded
 into it. Is is possible to non disruptively add a zAAP or zIIP to a
 z9BC? I.e. does the machine need to be down or a POR done? What about
 the LPAR that I want to use it on? Does that require a DEACTIVATE
 followed by a change to the LPAR defination followed by an ACTIVATE
 (yes, most likely a stupid question).
 
 Related: what about a totally new crypto card? Does it require a
 hardware outage or it is hot installable? If it is hot 
 installable, can
 I then just start using it, or does the LPAR defination need to be
 messed with?
 
 Sorry for the stupid questions, and thanks for any answers.

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Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-17 Thread Heloisa
ICKDSF Release 17 can expand a VTOC. I've never tried though.
This is what the manual says:
//SYSIN DD * 
REFORMAT DDNAME(VOLDD) VERIFY(TMP121) EXTVTOC(200) EXTINDEX(16)

The example above expands both VTOC and VTOC INDEX.

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Re: Adding a zAAP or zIIP

2007-05-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
we have a standard that any CP field that allows
reservation we will reserve at least 2 for dynamic activation.

We had a standard, recommended by IBM, that the sum of active and reserved add 
up to the maximum configurable.
It doesn't cost anything, and makes life a lot easier.

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Re: How do I build a stand alone z/OS

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 May 2007 07:42:31 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


As a first step we are planning to install the z/OS, is there any way i
could build a systempac kinda  use it for future LPAR's.


snip



I have some examples on my cbt file - file 434 and in the JOBs section
of my web site (URL below in my signature).

If you don't need TCPIP then you can use the ONEPAK* examples -
otherwise you need the TWOPAK* examples (which can fit on
a single 3390-9).  I last updated them for z/OS 1.6 but was just considering
updating them for z/OS 1.8.  If you are running z/OS 1.7, there are only
minor changes that need to be made (new LNKLST lib for example).  You
can get those from the migration manual and / or looking at one of your
1.7 systems.

snip

These are the changes that are required from my 1.6 samples to work
with z/OS 1.7 and z/OS 1.8.   I will update my CBT file soon - but you
can easily make them yourself if you plan on using my samples:

CHANGES FROM Z/OS 1.6 VERSION FOR Z/OS 1.8:
  
1. DEL REFERENCES TO SISPSASC (1.8 CHANGE)  
2. DEL SHASLINK AND REPLACE WITH SHASLNKE (1.7 CHANGE)  
3. ADD SIEAMIGE TO COPY/ALTER/LNKLST/APF IN PROG00 (1.7 CHANGE) 
4. REMOVE RDINUM= FROM JES2PARM (1.7 CHANGE)
5. ADD SCEERUN2 TO COPY/ALTER/LNKLST/APF IN PROG00 (1.7 CHANGE?)
   (ABEND IN CEEBINIT AT IPL WITHOUT SCEERUN2 - OMVS RELATED)   
6. CHANGE TMP HFS TO A TFS (UNRELATED TO OS LEVEL CHANGE)   


5 and 6 are only for the 2 pack system that includes OMVS and TCP/IP.
SCEERUN2 is a large DSN, so it is going on the 2nd volume. 

Regards,

Mark
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Re: Alias

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 May 2007 10:37:54 -0500, Mark Steely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a load module which I would like to make several alias mods. What
is the best way to accomplish this?
 
We are z/OS v1r7.
 

Best?  Probably binder (linkage editor).  Easiest?  Probably PDS86.  Another 
way is also TSO RENAME - but I think you need exclusive use of the library.

Mark
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Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-17 Thread Robert Pelletier
It works as long as there is space to expand into otherwise you have to
move files.  Thanks all. 


Have a Nice Day !
 
Bob Pelletier
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-Original Message-
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: VTOC FULL

ICKDSF Release 17 can expand a VTOC. I've never tried though.
This is what the manual says:
//SYSIN DD *
REFORMAT DDNAME(VOLDD) VERIFY(TMP121) EXTVTOC(200) EXTINDEX(16)

The example above expands both VTOC and VTOC INDEX.

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Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-17 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Subject: Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

We use Quick-Ref which has the Data Areas as well.  I asked if Quick-Ref
was going to supply the Data Areas after IBM drops them.  Here is the
reply:

'IBM is not removing the z/OS Data Areas manuals from public
availability entirely. They only intend to remove the BookManager form
of the manuals from their z/OS public documentation web site. PDF
versions of the Data Areas manuals will continue to be available on the
public IBM web sites.
.
.
.
Comments on IBM-MAIN seem to have caused the misunderstanding on future
z/OS data areas availablity. The data areas manuals are not going away.
We got this information directly from IBM. The BookManager versions of
z/OS data areas are being dropped for IBM business reasons. PDF copies
of the manuals will be around for many years to come, ...'
SNIP

Seems that the ID people involved do not understand what they stated in
the ETR I have open. And, they also said that JES2/3 Data Areas are
available via PDF. However, I can't seem to find those for z/OS 1.7 thru
1.9. Anyone have a link to the JES2/3 Data Areas for these levels?

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am trying to find a way that is simple and will go from one upgrade to 
another with little effort.

As PF6 is defaulted to BOOK in SDSF, we are a shop that does not have Bookmgr.  
So I will like to globally replace it with having to create a process to be 
used for each operating system upgrade.

Has anyone done this, if so, what did you do?

Thanks much.

Lizette

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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Field, Alan C.
Lizette: PF6 isn't BOOK on my system e.g.:

PF1 . . . HELP  
PF2 . . . SPLIT 
PF3 . . . END   
PF4 . . . RETURN
PF5 . . . IFIND 
PF6 . . . FIND '- COND CODE'
PF7 . . . UP
PF8 . . . DOWN  
PF9 . . . SWAP  
PF10  . . LEFT  
PF11  . . RIGHT 
PF12  . . CURSOR 

But why not create a REXX exec or a little program that just returns if
your users hit PF6. It could even display a message BOOKMGR not
available on this system.

Alan   


I am trying to find a way that is simple and will go from one upgrade to
another with little effort.

As PF6 is defaulted to BOOK in SDSF, we are a shop that does not have
Bookmgr.  So I will like to globally replace it with having to create a
process to be used for each operating system upgrade.

Has anyone done this, if so, what did you do?

Thanks much.

Lizette

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Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Steely
I believe the answer is no and that's what I told the customer, but I
will ask any way. Is there a way to dynamically add the current date and
time to a dataset through JCL ? We are z/OS V1R7.
 
Thank You

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SMTP Question

2007-05-17 Thread Robert Pelletier
Is there a way to see what e-mail is queued to go or a log to see what
goes on after an e-mail is sent from the frame? Thanks all. 


Have a Nice Day !
 
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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 17 May 2007 13:14:18 -0400, Lizette Koehler 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am trying to find a way that is simple and will go from one upgrade to 
another with little effort.

As PF6 is defaulted to BOOK in SDSF, we are a shop that does not have 
Bookmgr.  So I will like to globally replace it with having to create a process 
to 
be used for each operating system upgrade.

Has anyone done this, if so, what did you do?

Thanks much.

Lizette

What about the *KEYS* command in ISPF?
Type KEYS and your PFKey settings (either 12 or 24) will pop up.
You can customize to your heart's content.
After making changes, just PF3 to back out and save in your ISPF Profile.

.mhyI

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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Pinnacle
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From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?


I am trying to find a way that is simple and will go from one upgrade to 
another with little effort.


As PF6 is defaulted to BOOK in SDSF, we are a shop that does not have 
Bookmgr.  So I will like to globally replace it with having to create a 
process to be used for each operating system upgrade.


Has anyone done this, if so, what did you do?

Thanks much.


Lizette,

Hack ISFPROF by removing BOOK in SDSF, then take that member and usermod it 
into ISF.SISFTENU or whatever the SDSF table library is.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: LOADxx PARMLIB statement, can dsname include SYSR1 symbol?

2007-05-17 Thread Peter Relson
No, the dsname cannot include SYSR1.

Nor is such functionality likely to be implemented.

There is no full system symbol support for any symbol including SYSR1 (so
substrings are not supported, for example).

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Jack Kelly
I really thought that this would be a simple parm update but since SDSF is 
involved I should have known better. I couldn't find anything in the 
'docm' nor a scan of its libs. What a terrible product, it certainly makes 
me miss (e)jes even more.

Jack Kelly
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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:30:52 -0500, Mark Steely wrote:

I believe the answer is no and that's what I told the customer, but I
will ask any way. Is there a way to dynamically add the current date and
time to a dataset through JCL ? We are z/OS V1R7.
 
 
Through JCL?  YES! 
 
 
Through BATCH JCL?  No.  
 
(Started Job, sure, and started tasks are easily done, too.  Batch is where it 
gets pesky... like current time by which means of counting (RDR,C/I,INIT).) 
 
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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:30:52 -0500, Mark Steely 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I believe the answer is no and that's what I told the customer, but I
will ask any way. Is there a way to dynamically add the current date and
time to a dataset through JCL ? We are z/OS V1R7.
 

This *topic* was just covered recently (I think in May).  Check the archives.

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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread McKown, John
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 I believe the answer is no and that's what I told the customer, but I
 will ask any way. Is there a way to dynamically add the 
 current date and
 time to a dataset through JCL ? We are z/OS V1R7.
  
 Thank You

The answer to this question is still NO. And Charles DeGaulle is still
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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/17/2007 12:48:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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This  *topic* was just covered recently (I think in May).  Check the  
archives.




 
Comes up repeatedly. First choice is Scheduling PKG, second choice is ISPF  
SKELs, more choices include Rexx, CLIST, HLASM to generate JCL and sub to  
internal reader.



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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:56:13 -0500, McKown, John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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The answer to this question is still NO. And Charles DeGaulle is still
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Re: SMTP Question

2007-05-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 5/17/2007 12:33:54 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Is there  a way to see what e-mail is queued to go or a log to see what
goes on after  an e-mail is sent from the frame? Thanks all. 





smsg smtp queue
 
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Re: SMTP Question

2007-05-17 Thread Robert Pelletier
Thanks. I sent all logs to SYSOUT. Going to look at them now. 


Have a Nice Day !
 
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Is there  a way to see what e-mail is queued to go or a log to see what
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Re: SMTP Question

2007-05-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
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Thanks.  I sent all logs to SYSOUT. Going to look at them now.  




You'll see a file spooled to SMTP then in SMTP log you'll see a  disposition.
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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Jon Brock
deadhorsebeat
. . . and none of those choices are really good, at least for a non-sysprog.  I 
know the reasoning behind not having it as a batch JCL, but it seems a case of 
you might burn yourself, so you can't do it.  

There's a reason it comes up frequently; many people would find it useful.

/deadhorsebeat


Jon



snip
Comes up repeatedly. First choice is Scheduling PKG, second choice is ISPF  
SKELs, more choices include Rexx, CLIST, HLASM to generate JCL and sub to  
internal reader.
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Re: SMTP Question

2007-05-17 Thread Robert Pelletier
We are trying to send the mail to a server ##.#.##.## and it tries to
send the mail but says undeliverable:
TEST.CSLF.ORG unable to deliver following mail to recipient(s):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TEST.CSLF.ORG unable to connect for 1 days to recipient host.

   ** Text of Mail follows **
Received: from CSLFTEST by TEST.CSLF.ORG (IBM MVS SMTP CS V2R10)
   with BSMTP id 7683; Wed, 16 May 07 12:30:42 EST


I have  IPMAILERADDRESS 10.1.2.54 in SMTP. Do I need to comment out all
NSINTERADDR statements in my TCPIP.DATA file to get it to go to this
specific address?  


 
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Thanks.  I sent all logs to SYSOUT. Going to look at them now.  




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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
You are right...It would be VERY useful. I'm surprised that IBM can't
come up with a way to handle system symbols (Perhaps via the SET
parameter). Something like:

//  SET   DATE=SYSSYMBOL(LDATE)  


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deadhorsebeat
.. . . and none of those choices are really good, at least for a
non-sysprog.  I know the reasoning behind not having it as a batch JCL,
but it seems a case of you might burn yourself, so you can't do it.  

There's a reason it comes up frequently; many people would find it
useful.

/deadhorsebeat


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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
What about the *KEYS* command in ISPF?

The OP was asking for global control.
I cannot remember the name of the ISPF config utility, but that should meet the 
need.

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Virtual Tape hardware

2007-05-17 Thread Mainframe
A while back someone posted a link to a small unit that could be used for 
Virtual Tapes.


I've searched the archives but am unable to locate it.  Does anyone remember 
this unique piece of hardware?


Thanks.
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3350 failures

2007-05-17 Thread William Donzelli

I have a lead on a few 3350s - obsolete, but that is the point - and
the owner mentioned that the typical failure mode is the breakdown and
failure of the seals, letting crud get on the platters. Can any of the
oldtimers here elaborate? Does anyone still service 3350s?

Also, does anyone know the weight of these 3350s?

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Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-17 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
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If we can believe Bill Gates last pronouncement that Microsoft has 
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as vista sales even if the have not been sold and even if they wind up
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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Howard Brazee
On 17 May 2007 10:57:42 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Comes up repeatedly. First choice is Scheduling PKG, second choice is ISPF  
SKELs, more choices include Rexx, CLIST, HLASM to generate JCL and sub to  
internal reader.

Is there a place to look at common questions  recommendations from
this listserv/newsgroup?

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RES: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
The utility is ISPCCONF, but i don't think you could do
such change using it. 


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

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What about the *KEYS* command in ISPF?

The OP was asking for global control.
I cannot remember the name of the ISPF config utility, but that should
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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Howard Brazee
On 17 May 2007 11:01:57 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark H. Young)
wrote:

And Charles André Joseph Marie de Gaulle is *STILL* French.dontchya 
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I didn't know he was a Marie.   I know of a some (José María)s, and
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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Weidt, James
It can be done, at least I'm doing it on my single LPAR machine.

HOW!!!??

1.  Create a script to use unix services date command to build set cards
for date and time.  Put the set cards into a PDS that will be
concatenated in a JES2 PROC DD.

Contents of /usr/local/bin/datetime -
#!/bin/sh
#
# script to update the current date and time 
#
echo //   SET DATE=`date '+%m%d%y'`  /tmp/datetime
echo //   SET TIME=`date '+%H%M'`  /tmp/datetime 
cp /tmp/datetime //'SYS1.SETVAL.PROCLIB(DATETIME)' 
rm /tmp/datetime 


2.  Create a file for loading the crontab to run the datetime script
once per minute.

Contents of /cronfile -
0-59 * * * * /usr/local/bin/datetime

3.  Load /cronfile into crontab -
crontab /cronfile

This tells cron to run the script will run once per minute, at the top
of the minute.

4.  Concatenate the PDS containing the DATETIME member in the JES2 PROC
DD.

//JES2 PROC MEMBER=00 
//IEFPROC  EXEC PGM=HASJES20, 
//DPRTY=(15,15),TIME=1440,PERFORM=9   
//PROC00   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.PROCLIB    BATCH PROCS ***
// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SETVAL.PROCLIB

5.  Start the cron daemon (there are different ways to do this, we use
JCL to which gives a consistent jobname in the d a,l displays)'  Also
remember to configure the cron daemon to start at IPL.

The userid that is used to run the cron daemon should have a uid=0.

//$PDACRON  JOB ($PROD),'$PDACRON',MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=I,
// MSGLEVEL=(1,1) 
//* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
//IEFPROC EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=50   
//SYSEXEC  DD DSN=SYS1.SBPXEXEC,DISP=SHR  
//SYSTSPRT DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=X
//SYSTSIN  DD *   
  oshell /usr/sbin/cron   

6.  Add the //INCLUDE MEMBER=DATETIME card after the JOB card.
Code the date and time variables in your DSN name.

//$USER19A  JOB (BATCH),IEFBR14,MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=I,
//  MSGLEVEL=(1,1),NOTIFY=SYSUID  
//INCLUDE MEMBER=DATETIME  
//STEP01  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//VDSBYPAS DD DUMMY
//DD1DD DSN=$USER19.DDATE..TTIME,
//  UNIT=SYSALLDA,DISP=(,CATLG),  
//  SPACE=(CYL,(1)),   
//  DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920)  

Thus, the variables resolve to the current date and time -

01 //$USER19A  JOB (BATCH),IEFBR14,MSGCLASS=X,CLASS=I,
02 //  MSGLEVEL=(1,1),NOTIFY=SYSUID  
=NOTE= --  MSGLEVEL=(1,1),NOTIFY=$USER19  
03 //INCLUDE MEMBER=DATETIME  
=NOTE=   I1//   SET DATE=051707   
=NOTE=   I1//   SET TIME=1348 
04 //STEP01  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 
05 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
06 //VDSBYPAS DD DUMMY
07 //DD1DD DSN=$USER19.DDATE..TTIME,
=NOTE= --DD1DD DSN=$USER19.D051707.T1348, 
08 //  UNIT=SYSALLDA,DISP=(,CATLG),  
09 //  SPACE=(CYL,(1)),   
10 //  DCB=(LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=27920)  

Possible gotcha's

1.  Running jobs that create the same date/time stamp in less than one
minute can result in 'not cat 2' files.  (or within the same day with a
date stamp only.)

2.  The pds where the DATETIME member is stored must be compressed
regularly.  In our case, once a day is plenty on a 7 cylinder file.

Thanks,

Jim Weidt

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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 17 May 2007 12:30:15 -0500, Mark H. Young wrote:


What about the *KEYS* command in ISPF?
Type KEYS and your PFKey settings (either 12 or 24) will pop up.


There's a separate set of key lists for ISPF and SDSF. They KEYS command 
works for either environment. If you're looking to make one change and cover 
every user, that might be tough. In my profile dataset, the member that 
controls it is ISFPROF.

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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 May 2007 14:06:55 -0500, Weidt, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It can be done, at least I'm doing it on my single LPAR machine.

HOW!!!??

huge snip

Way overly complicated.  Not to mention all the things that could
go wrong.

If you only have a single LPAR, that eliminates most (not all) of the
caveats and ambiguities surrounding the reasons that IBM has never
allowed system symbols in batch jobs.   So instead of jumping though
hoops, you can  code a fairly simple IEFUJV exit that calls ASASYMBM 
to resolve the symbols.   

As already mentioned by several people, this subject comes up often.
PLEASE check the archives.  You'll find a reference to sample IEFUJV
code also. 

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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 May 2007 14:06:55 -0500, Weidt, James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

2.  The pds where the DATETIME member is stored must be compressed
regularly.  In our case, once a day is plenty on a 7 cylinder file.


Why not make it a PDSE?

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Re: RES: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Mark H. Young
On Thu, 17 May 2007 16:12:48 -0300, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

The utility is ISPCCONF, but I don't think you could do such change using it.



ISPCCONF is a REXX Exec in ISP.SISPEXEC.

[DESCRIPTIVE_NAME:= Configuration table main driver]
[FUNCTION  = Main driver exec for the configuration table dialog]


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Re: Virtual Tape hardware

2007-05-17 Thread McKown, John
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 A while back someone posted a link to a small unit that could 
 be used for 
 Virtual Tapes.
 
 I've searched the archives but am unable to locate it.  Does 
 anyone remember 
 this unique piece of hardware?
 
 Thanks.
 Dan

I know of three:

Bustech http://www.bustech.com
FlexCUB http://www.funsoft.com
IDG9480 http://www.secureagent.com/securevts/VTStech.htm


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Re: Date Time in JCL

2007-05-17 Thread Weidt, James
The system is OS/390 2.9, we've never used PDSE and we don't change what
we don't have to.

Thanks,

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2.  The pds where the DATETIME member is stored must be compressed
regularly.  In our case, once a day is plenty on a 7 cylinder file.


Why not make it a PDSE?

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Re: Adding a zAAP or zIIP

2007-05-17 Thread Roger Lowe
On Thu, 17 May 2007 09:41:08 -0500, McKown, John 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Related: what about a totally new crypto card? Does it require a
hardware outage or it is hot installable? If it is hot installable, can
I then just start using it, or does the LPAR defination need to be
messed with?


John,
Haven't hot-installed a Crypto card as our boxes already came 
with them. But at a minimum, you will need to update the LPAR 
definitions to setup the Crypto Domains which will require a 
deactivate/activate of the lpar(s). Also, ICSF on z/OS will require 
configuring.

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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 17 May 2007 13:35:22 -0400, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?


I am trying to find a way that is simple and will go from one upgrade to
another with little effort.

 As PF6 is defaulted to BOOK in SDSF, we are a shop that does not have
 Bookmgr.  So I will like to globally replace it with having to create a
 process to be used for each operating system upgrade.

 Has anyone done this, if so, what did you do?

 Thanks much.

Lizette,

Hack ISFPROF by removing BOOK in SDSF, then take that member and usermod it
into ISF.SISFTENU or whatever the SDSF table library is.

Regards,

That will only help people who have never used SDSF and don't
have ISFPROF already in their own profile, right?  

Try creating a CLIST called BOOKMGR with this in it:

/* REXX */   
Address ispexec  
VGET ZAPPLID   
/* Say 'current applid =' ZAPPLID */ 
If ZAPPLID = 'ISFB' | ZAPPLID = 'ISF' then do
  If zapplid  'ISF' then SELECT CMD(%BOOKMGR) NEWAPPL(ISF)   
  Else   
  Say 'PF6 and PF18 have been changed to FIND ''- COND'''  
  ZPF06=FIND '- COND'  
  ZPF18=FIND '- COND'  
  VPUT ZPF06 PROFILE   
  VPUT ZPF18 PROFILE   
End  

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Re: Virtual Tape hardware

2007-05-17 Thread R.S.

McKown, John wrote:

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Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:47 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Virtual Tape hardware


A while back someone posted a link to a small unit that could 
be used for 
Virtual Tapes.


I've searched the archives but am unable to locate it.  Does 
anyone remember 
this unique piece of hardware?


Thanks.
Dan


I know of three:

Bustech http://www.bustech.com
FlexCUB http://www.funsoft.com
IDG9480 http://www.secureagent.com/securevts/VTStech.htm


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Luminex
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Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-17 Thread Matthew Stitt
Go into SDSF.  Type the command KEYS.  Change them to whatever you want and
save.  New keys will be stored in the users ISPF Profile dataset.

On Thu, 17 May 2007 15:00:06 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

On Thu, 17 May 2007 13:35:22 -0400, Pinnacle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

- Original Message -
From: Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:14 PM
Subject: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?


I am trying to find a way that is simple and will go from one upgrade to
another with little effort.

 As PF6 is defaulted to BOOK in SDSF, we are a shop that does not have
 Bookmgr.  So I will like to globally replace it with having to create a
 process to be used for each operating system upgrade.

 Has anyone done this, if so, what did you do?

 Thanks much.

Lizette,

Hack ISFPROF by removing BOOK in SDSF, then take that member and usermod it
into ISF.SISFTENU or whatever the SDSF table library is.

Regards,

That will only help people who have never used SDSF and don't
have ISFPROF already in their own profile, right?

Try creating a CLIST called BOOKMGR with this in it:

/* REXX */
Address ispexec
VGET ZAPPLID
/* Say 'current applid =' ZAPPLID */
If ZAPPLID = 'ISFB' | ZAPPLID = 'ISF' then do
  If zapplid  'ISF' then SELECT CMD(%BOOKMGR) NEWAPPL(ISF)
  Else
  Say 'PF6 and PF18 have been changed to FIND ''- COND'''
  ZPF06=FIND '- COND'
  ZPF18=FIND '- COND'
  VPUT ZPF06 PROFILE
  VPUT ZPF18 PROFILE
End

Mark
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Re: 3350 failures

2007-05-17 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 17 May 2007 15:01:48 -0400, William Donzelli wrote:

I have a lead on a few 3350s - obsolete, but that is the point 

What point its that?  By today's standards they are very slow.  And at 635 MB 
per unit, you can get the capacity of several strings for a couple of hundred 
dollars and carry it in your pocket.

 Does anyone still service 3350s?

Also, does anyone know the weight of these 3350s?

No, but you might look here
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3350.html

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Re: Virtual Tape hardware

2007-05-17 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 17 May 2007 14:44:54 -0500, McKown, John wrote:

Bustech http://www.bustech.com
FlexCUB http://www.funsoft.com
IDG9480 http://www.secureagent.com/securevts/VTStech.htm


There also:
Luminex - http://www.luminex.com
Sepaton - http://www.sepaton.com
Data Domain - http://www.datadomain.com  == This looked like it was 
targeted to open systems rather than z servers, so I didn't look too deeply at 
their offerings.

And I'm still looking at offerings from 3PAR and Diligent and Compellent 
because 
others mentioned they might have something useful.

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Re: 3350 failures

2007-05-17 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip


No, but you might look here
http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3350.html

/snip

Never a good thing when your device shows up in the history section of
IBM's website. :-)

Thanks,

Fletch 

Dilbert - I ask for so little..and boy do I get it.
 

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Re: 3350 failures

2007-05-17 Thread William Donzelli

I have a lead on a few 3350s - obsolete, but that is the point 

What point its that?  By today's standards they are very slow.  And at 635 MB
per unit, you can get the capacity of several strings for a couple of hundred
dollars and carry it in your pocket.


The point is not to put these in any sort of production environment,
but a museum environment. If operational, all the better.

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