How to switch UID under OMVS

2007-08-28 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all,

Anyone know how to switch the UID under OMVs.

I try to use SU but failed.

#id
uid=0(EDPXPER) gid=2(SYS1)

when I invoke using the TSO OMVS with userid TEST001, it always show the
EDPXPER and cannot be changed to other TEST001. Anything need to be set...

thanks for help

Tommy

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CRC checksum generation on COBOL for the full file

2007-08-28 Thread Amlan Prasad
Hi,

I have got a requirement to calculate the checksum of the full file for COBOL 
based application running on a mainframe.
I have the CRC checsum calculating assembler routine which can calulate the 
checksum for one record or for a portion of working-storage but I need the 
checksum to be calculated on the whole file after it has been complteley 
created.
The number of records in the file also is not fixed so how many bytes the file 
is occupying can not be fixed in the begining.

Thanks,
Amlan

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Re: Send a IODF file in a email

2007-08-28 Thread Jim McAlpine
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 4. transmit from PC file to PS dataset
 5. RECEIVE INDA(PS_dataset)
 6. DSS RESTORE


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Re: IBMLink SEV1 Ticket 32927263 ETA 12:20PM

2007-08-28 Thread Kim Goldenberg

Ed Gould wrote:

On Aug 27, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Ed Finnell wrote:


tergiversates


OK Ed... That is the first time I have heard of that word. Looked it 
up in the dictionary and still don't understand it, Please enlighten. 
TIA.


Ed


Beats around the bush, waffles, straddles the fence, etc.

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Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

2007-08-28 Thread Jim Marshall
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/27/forklift_ibm_server/

It looked to me like it was a mainframe that fell but its somewhat
vague.

Could the US Patent  Trade Office be coming back into the mainframe FOLD. 
Back in the 1990s, the PTO (with great fanfare) kicked out the ugly mainframe 
in favor of running SUN UNIX. So most likely this had to be a System P 
although if anyone hears anything, would be interested. Maybe it could be 
something for running Linux on z. 

jim

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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
 
 McKown, John wrote:
  COMMAND JCL is the JES-neutral way to do this.
 
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  Why even bother with COMMAND?
 
  // VARY cuu,OFFLINE
 
  works for me.
 
 Hmph! I didn't know you could do that! Where is it documented?

It's sort of documented here (z/OS 1.7 MVS JCL Reference):

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2B661/3.1

First entry in table 3.1 is an example.

Been working that way for at least a decade that I know about; only
recently (past 3 - 4 years) have I see our programmers start using the
COMMAND keyword.

-jc-

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Re: Strange behavior of START command(Keyword parms)

2007-08-28 Thread Peter Relson
IIRC, I had the same error on a START LLA,SUB=MSTR before.  I think I
blamed it on automation.

The only error case appears to be when you specify the device type / device
number on the command.

There must be some good reason to specify that, it just does not come to me
at the moment..
So if you don't need to, don't, and you won't encounter the error.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: How to switch UID under OMVS

2007-08-28 Thread Lou Losee
Hi Tommy,
It appears that both EDPXPER and TEST001 have a uid=0.  If this is the case,
then what you are seeing is working as designed.  If there are multiple
uid's with the same value (0 in this case), the name associated with the
display of the uid (for instance with as ls -l command) is only guaranteed
to be one with that numeric uid.  There is no guarantee for the name to be a
name associated with a specific instance of the numeric uid.

Lou Losee

On 8/28/07, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 Anyone know how to switch the UID under OMVs.

 I try to use SU but failed.

 #id
 uid=0(EDPXPER) gid=2(SYS1)

 when I invoke using the TSO OMVS with userid TEST001, it always show the
 EDPXPER and cannot be changed to other TEST001. Anything need to be set...

 thanks for help

 Tommy

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Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

2007-08-28 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Marshall
 
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/27/forklift_ibm_server/
 
 It looked to me like it was a mainframe that fell but its somewhat 
 vague.
 
 Could the US Patent  Trade Office be coming back into the 
 mainframe FOLD. 
 Back in the 1990s, the PTO (with great fanfare) kicked out 
 the ugly mainframe in favor of running SUN UNIX. So most 
 likely this had to be a System P although if anyone hears 
 anything, would be interested. Maybe it could be something 
 for running Linux on z. 

Sadly typical of the general litigiousness of the US corporate mindset
these days.  It's the manufacturer's fault that our forklift driver hit
a bump and dropped the load.

No wonder prices keep rising...

-jc-

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Re: CRC checksum generation on COBOL for the full file

2007-08-28 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:37:52 -0500 Amlan Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:I have got a requirement to calculate the checksum of the full file for COBOL 
:based application running on a mainframe.
:I have the CRC checsum calculating assembler routine which can calulate the 
:checksum for one record or for a portion of working-storage but I need the 
:checksum to be calculated on the whole file after it has been complteley 
:created.
:The number of records in the file also is not fixed so how many bytes the 
file 
:is occupying can not be fixed in the begining.

You do not need the entire file to be in memory to calculate a checksum.

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Real storage usage in *MASTER*

2007-08-28 Thread Frank Allan Rasmussen
Hi

 

After deploying DB2 v8 in production we seem to use alot of real storage
in *MASTER*

 

Current value is 480 MB, Before we were under 150 MB.

 

Is this just DB2 v8 or is the something else?

 

Venlig hilsen

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Re: IBMLink SEV1 Ticket 32927263 ETA 12:20PM

2007-08-28 Thread Kelman, Tom
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:28 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: IBMLink SEV1 Ticket 32927263 ETA 12:20PM
 
 On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 13:38:43 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote:
 
 Yeah, yeah...there have been some constructive ideas too! Think what
gets
 everybody's goat is that they broke their word about IBMLINK and
 availability
 and pulled the plug before it was stable. In a commercial world if we
did
 something like that the four horsemen of the Apocalypse would descend
on
 our
 cubicles. They got bad design or bad software and there just ain't
enough
 tergiversates in the world to remedy the  problem
 
 Are you suggesting that IBM is not a commercial concern?
 
 The second source problem.
 
 There is always the hazard of becoming so enthralled to a supplier,
 be it IBM, Microsoft, or other, that one can not mount a plausible
 threat of taking ones custom elsewhere.
 
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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread John Eells

Rob Scott wrote:

In the old days, issuing lots of vary operator commands could cause system 
problems - I am not sure if that has been fixed yet.

snip

In z/OS R7, the code was changed to attach up to 32 subtasks to process 
VARY OFFLINE commands in parallel.  In z/OS R8, it was changed to do the 
same for VARY ONLINE.  We think this should have done a lot to relieve 
contention for, e.g., SYSIEFSD Q4 (and if I remember right--always a 
dangerous assumption--SYSIEFSD VARYDEV) while also processing VARYs for 
a large number of devices in considerably less time.


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Re: Real storage usage in *MASTER*

2007-08-28 Thread Ediger Mark - medige
Frank,

I don't believe it is DB2 V8.  You would see DB2 storage consumed
elsewhere.  V8 has no Data Spaces and my monitors do not show any of the
DB2 subpools in *MASTER*

Mark Ediger
Acxiom

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After deploying DB2 v8 in production we seem to use alot of real storage
in *MASTER*

Current value is 480 MB, Before we were under 150 MB.

Is this just DB2 v8 or is the something else?

Venlig hilsen

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LE jcl override?

2007-08-28 Thread Stead, Joe
How do I over-ride some language environment parameters with jcl for a
quick test?

 

 


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Re: Send a IODF file in a email

2007-08-28 Thread Jack Kelly
If you're going to FTP  the IODF file, you can FTP from one HMC to another
HMC, at least at level 1.9.



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SV: Real storage usage in *MASTER*

2007-08-28 Thread Frank Allan Rasmussen
Hi

I were thinking about page and segment table ect. I think that DB2 v8 is the 
first thing we have that uses storage over the bar.

Venlig hilsen

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Frank,

I don't believe it is DB2 V8.  You would see DB2 storage consumed
elsewhere.  V8 has no Data Spaces and my monitors do not show any of the
DB2 subpools in *MASTER*

Mark Ediger
Acxiom

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in *MASTER*

Current value is 480 MB, Before we were under 150 MB.

Is this just DB2 v8 or is the something else?

Venlig hilsen

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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:12:15 -0400, John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rob Scott wrote:
 In the old days, issuing lots of vary operator commands could cause
system problems - I am not sure if that has been fixed yet.
snip

In z/OS R7, the code was changed to attach up to 32 subtasks to process
VARY OFFLINE commands in parallel.  In z/OS R8, it was changed to do the
same for VARY ONLINE.  We think this should have done a lot to relieve
contention for, e.g., SYSIEFSD Q4 (and if I remember right--always a
dangerous assumption--SYSIEFSD VARYDEV) while also processing VARYs for
a large number of devices in considerably less time.



The problems Rob was probably referring to had more to do with
commands backing up and blowing away the commtask (console).
The console restructure took care of that problem.Although 
obviously if you can do the commands in parallel,  there is a much 
less chance of them backing up.   But the same (console) problem 
could happen in the old days from commands other than VARY also. 
 
Our vary offline at IPL program still has a .2 second delay built 
into it between commands because of the problem (changed from
.5 second delay several years ago due to the speed of modern
machines).

I remember a similar issue under MVS/XA where MSTJCL00 had a
region size coded of 32M and ran out of virtual storage.

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Re: LE jcl override?

2007-08-28 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
snip

How do I over-ride some language environment parameters with jcl for a
quick test?

/snip 

 

Joe,

I think you can do this on the EXEC PGM=PARM='LE OPTIONS/USER PARMS'
but there is a length restriction (I think 100 bytes).

here is a sample

//PS010EXEC PGM=FWA00502, 
// PARM='ERRCOUNT(0)/FDV(SWLI:FORM:SWLI:TEST)',   
// REGION=8M  

Thanks,
 
Fletch

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Re: LE jcl override?

2007-08-28 Thread Steve Comstock

Stead, Joe wrote:

How do I over-ride some language environment parameters with jcl for a
quick test?



Depends on what you want to override and what version of
LE / z/OS you're running. Simplest approach is:

//STEPxx  EXEC  PGM=,
//  PARM='program_parms/LE_parms'   -- if program is COBOL

//  PARM='LE_parms/program_parms'   -- other languages

In both cases, the slash (/) is what delimits the two kinds
of parms.

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Re: DFDSS versus FDR

2007-08-28 Thread Jim McAlpine
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  I presume you use the VSAM component names as opposed to the cluster
 name. I keep getting -

 RESTORE DS(INC(QMF311.DSQPNLE.DATA)) -
 00130099
 INDDNAME(BACKUP) -
 00170099
 OUTDYNAM(WRKP01)
 00171099
 DR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
 DR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2007.236 16:07:14 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL
 STATEMENTS COMPLETED.
 DR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
 DR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2007.236 16:07:14 EXECUTION BEGINS
 DR780I (001)-TDDS (01), THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL
 VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
 RELEASE 3 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0
 DR327W (001)-FDSRS(01), NO DATA SETS PROCESSED FROM LOGICAL VOLUME ESAIPO
 DR388W (001)-TDDS (01), DATA SET QMF311.DSQPNLE.DATA NOT ON ANY VOLUME
 DR415W (001)-TDDS (02), NO DATA SETS WERE COPIED, DUMPED, OR RESTORED FROM
 ANY VOLUME
 DR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2007.236 16:08:45 EXECUTION ENDS
 DR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2007.236 16:08:45 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE
 0004
 DR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2007.236 16:08:45 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE.
 HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 0004 FROM:

 Jim McAlpine




OK, if I use a generic name it seems to work like this -

 RESTORE DS(INC(QMF311.DSQPNLE.**)) -
 INDDNAME(BACKUP) -
00170099
 OUTDYNAM(WRKP01)
00171099
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'RESTORE '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2007.240 15:02:04 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL
STATEMENTS COMPLETED.
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2007.240 15:02:04 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR780I (001)-TDDS (01), THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL
VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
 RELEASE 3 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0
ADR396I (001)-SB105(01), DATA SET CLUSTER QMF311.DSQPNLE COMPONENT
QMF311.DSQPNLE.DATA ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): WRKP01
ADR396I (001)-SB105(02), DATA SET CLUSTER QMF311.DSQPNLE COMPONENT
QMF311.DSQPNLE.INDEX ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): WRKP01
ADR418I (001)-SB105(01), THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS FOR CLUSTER
QMF311.DSQPNLEON WRKP01 MAY HAVE TO BE CATALOGED IN CATALOG
 CATALOG.VESAIPO
  COMPONENT QMF311.DSQPNLE.DATA
  COMPONENT QMF311.DSQPNLE.INDEX
ADR378I (001)-TDDS (02), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED
FROM VOLUME ESAIPO
  QMF311.DSQPNLE
QMF311.DSQPNLE.DATA
  QMF311.DSQPNLE
QMF311.DSQPNLE.INDEX
ADR006I (001)-STEND(02), 2007.240 15:03:55 EXECUTION ENDS
ADR013I (001)-CLTSK(01), 2007.240 15:03:55 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE

ADR012I (SCH)-DSSU (01), 2007.240 15:03:55 DFSMSDSS PROCESSING COMPLETE.
HIGHEST RETURN CODE IS 

So I still can't understand why I get an error saying it can't find the
component when I specify a fully qualified name for say the data component.
Not that I would want to just restore the data portion, but it seems a
strange error.

Jim McAlpine

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Re: CRC checksum generation on COBOL for the full file

2007-08-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:37:52 -0500, Amlan Prasad wrote:

I have got a requirement to calculate the checksum of the full file for COBOL
based application running on a mainframe.

Check the archives.  I favor John McKown's suggestion in:

   URL: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0503L=ibm-mainP=65113 

With more recent z/OS, STDOUT and STDERR can be allocated directly to
SYSOUT, eliminating the need for the two IEBGENER steps.

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Re: LE jcl override?

2007-08-28 Thread Miklos Szigetvari

Hi

CEEOPTS DD or parm:
// PARM=('POSIX(ON),TRACE(ON,1024,DUMP,le=3),trap(off,nospie)',
// '/ -tcallstack  ')  



Stead, Joe wrote:


How do I over-ride some language environment parameters with jcl for a
quick test?






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Re: LE jcl override?

2007-08-28 Thread Schneiderwent, Craig
This is documented in the Language Environment Programming Guide for your
version of z/OS.  If you're z/OS 1.7 or later you can use the CEEOPTS DD,
which is probably the easiest.  It's documented for 1.7 at
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/zosv1r7/index.htm
l?BOOKS/ceea2160/1.5.1.3?BOOKMARK=TRUEDN=SA22-7561-06DT=20050713195937SHE
LF=CEE2BK61.bksCASE=zosv1r70.bkcFS=TRUEPATH=/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/
zosv1r7/TB=SCRIPT (mind the wrap).

You can also do this with a PARM= option regardless of z/OS release, but
there are some finicky bits.  That's documented for 1.7 at
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/zosv1r7/index.htm
l?BOOKS/ceea2160/1.5.1.4?BOOKMARK=TRUEDN=SA22-7561-06DT=20050713195937SHE
LF=CEE2BK61.bksCASE=zosv1r70.bkcFS=TRUEPATH=/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/
zosv1r7/TB=SCRIPT.  As always, mind the wrap.

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will anyone confirm ibmlink is slow

2007-08-28 Thread Schramm, Rob
Is anyone else experiencing 30 seconds a page response time for IBMLINK?

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Re: will anyone confirm ibmlink is slow

2007-08-28 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Is anyone else experiencing 30 seconds a page response time for
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Works OK for me at this time. No guarantees that it will stay that way. 


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Re: will anyone confirm ibmlink is slow

2007-08-28 Thread Dean Montevago
No, response time is pretty good.

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Re: will anyone confirm ibmlink is slow

2007-08-28 Thread Robert Justice
the ibmlink green screen is working just fine, thanks for asking. . 


however, the web interface is being its usual self.

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Future date USS

2007-08-28 Thread arun kumar
Hi Listers
  On our test LPAR, development and test team wanted us to set a future date  
to test a particualr scenario. We IPL-ed the system with CLOCKxx as below,
OPERATOR PROMPT
ETRMODE  NO
ETRZONE  NO
  and we were able to set to a future date without any problem from TSO. 
  IKJ56650I TIME-03:29:10 PM. CPU-00:00:00 SERVICE-64068 SESSION-00:37:01 
JANUARY1,2008   
   
  But, when we checked the date from USS, it seem to be displaying the current 
date/time, not the future.
//:date  
Tue Aug 28 15:29:02  2007
  The test team is more interested in USS having a future date. Request your 
suggestion please on how to set the USS time to future date.
TIA
Arun

   
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Re: Real storage usage in *MASTER*

2007-08-28 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:55:27 +0200, Frank Allan Rasmussen wrote:

After deploying DB2 v8 in production we seem to use alot of real storage
in *MASTER*


Current value is 480 MB, Before we were under 150 MB.

Is this just DB2 v8 or is the something else?
 
 
You might be seeing interactions with UNICODE and z/OS.  (What release of 
z/OS are you operating DB2 v8 with?) 
 
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Re: Future date USS

2007-08-28 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Arun,
If a D T from the console of your Test LPAR shows the correct future date,
then you are probably running into the same problem that was discussed here
a few days ago und the heading of COBOL ACCEPT DATE 
Without being able to test this myself right now (I don't have access to a
z/OS system at this time), I suspect that the date command is looking at
the system's hardware clock in the HMC or sysplex timer, not the LPAR's
software clock and therefore returns a seemingly incorrect date. 
In order to retrieve the correct time from the software clock, you need to
use programs, commands, functions and/or subroutine calls that are
documented as obtaining the software clock's date and time.

If your Test LPAR is still IPLed with the future date, what happens if you
do the following:
Create a USS file in the Temp directory or your own USS user directory
List the directory and look at the file's creation/change date
Does it show the future date? IMHO, they should.

Regards,
Ulrich Krueger

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Hi Listers
  On our test LPAR, development and test team wanted us to set a future date
to test a particualr scenario. We IPL-ed the system with CLOCKxx as below,
OPERATOR PROMPT
ETRMODE  NO
ETRZONE  NO
  and we were able to set to a future date without any problem from TSO. 
  IKJ56650I TIME-03:29:10 PM. CPU-00:00:00 SERVICE-64068 SESSION-00:37:01
JANUARY1,2008

  But, when we checked the date from USS, it seem to be displaying the
current date/time, not the future.
//:date  
Tue Aug 28 15:29:02  2007
  The test team is more interested in USS having a future date. Request your
suggestion please on how to set the USS time to future date.
TIA
Arun

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Re: Future date USS

2007-08-28 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:26:20 -0700, arun kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Listers
  On our test LPAR, development and test team wanted us to set a future
date  to test a particualr scenario. We IPL-ed the system with CLOCKxx as below,
OPERATOR PROMPT
ETRMODE  NO
ETRZONE  NO
  and we were able to set to a future date without any problem from TSO.
  IKJ56650I TIME-03:29:10 PM. CPU-00:00:00 SERVICE-64068 SESSION-00:37:01
JANUARY1,2008
  But, when we checked the date from USS, it seem to be displaying the
current date/time, not the future.
//:date
Tue Aug 28 15:29:02  2007
  The test team is more interested in USS having a future date. Request
your suggestion please on how to set the USS time to future date.
TIA


What did the operator respond with at the prompt during IPL (was TOD set)?
What does a D T operator command tell you?

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Re: will anyone confirm ibmlink is slow

2007-08-28 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schramm, Rob
 
 Is anyone else experiencing 30 seconds a page response time 
 for IBMLINK?

WOW!!  How do you get such fast response time on the web interface?

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Re: IBMLink SEV1 Ticket 32927263 ETA 12:20PM

2007-08-28 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/28/2007 5:10:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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Beats  around the bush, waffles, straddles the fence,  etc.





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Re: will anyone confirm ibmlink is slow

2007-08-28 Thread Schramm, Rob
Must be an internal problem here then.  Thanks for the responses.

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Re: Source of COBOL ACCEPT DATE

2007-08-28 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
SNIP
To wrap this up ... what can we recommend that Brian P. and his user
do?
   (1) Change the hardware clock to keep it in sync with the software
clock
   and use PARMLIB TIMEZONE offsets? 
   (2) Change any affected COBOL programs to use a FUNCTION or CALL to
   COBOL- or LE-date/time routines that retrieve their data from the
   software clock, local time, instead of the hardware clock?
   (3) ??? Any other suggestions?
/SNIP

Our shop has been moving to the LE (Cobol Intrinsic Function) (option 2)
for getting the clock, in both Batch and CICS regions.  So that would me
my suggestion.  Sample attached:

MOVE FUNCTION CURRENT-DATE TO SYSTEM-DATE-TIME.

Where

* FILEDS FOR LANG ENV DATETIME FUNCTION   
 01  SYSTEM-DATE-TIME.
 05  SYSTEM-DATE. 
 10  SD-CC   PIC 9(2).
 10  SD-YY   PIC 9(2).
 10  SD-MM   PIC 9(2).
 10  SD-DD   PIC 9(2).
 05  FILLER  REDEFINES SYSTEM-DATE.   
 10  SD-FULL-DATEPIC 9(8).
 05  FILLER  REDEFINES SYSTEM-DATE.   
 10  FILLER  PIC X(2).
 10  SD-PARTIAL-DATE PIC 9(6).
 05  FILLER  REDEFINES SYSTEM-DATE.   
 10  SD-CCYY PIC 9(4).
 10  SD-MMDD PIC 9(4).
  
 05  SYSTEM-TIME. 
 10  ST-HOUR PIC 9(2).
 10  ST-MINS PIC 9(2).
 10  ST-SECS PIC 9(2).
 10  ST-HSEC PIC 9(2).
 05  FILLER  REDEFINES SYSTEM-TIME.   
 10  ST-PARTIAL-TIME PIC 9(6).
 10  FILLER  PIC X(2).
  
 05  GMT-FLAGPIC X(1).
 88  BEHIND-GMTVALUE '-'. 
 88  AHEAD-OF-GMT  VALUE '+'. 
 88  GMT-DISABLED  VALUE '0'. 
  
 05  GMT-OFFSET.  
 10  GMT-HOURPIC 9(2).
 10  GMT-MINSPIC 9(2).

This gives you all the information about local time, and the offset from
GMT.

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Re: Future date USS

2007-08-28 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 08:26:20 -0700, arun kumar wrote:

Hi Listers
  On our test LPAR, development and test team wanted us to set a future 
date  to test a particualr scenario. We IPL-ed the system with CLOCKxx as 
below,
OPERATOR PROMPT
ETRMODE  NO
ETRZONE  NO
  and we were able to set to a future date without any problem from TSO.
  IKJ56650I TIME-03:29:10 PM. CPU-00:00:00 SERVICE-64068 SESSION-
00:37:01 JANUARY1,2008
  But, when we checked the date from USS, it seem to be displaying the 
current date/time, not the future.

You didn't say how you responded to the clock prompt.  If you didn't specify 
GMT, you only set local time.

I agree with Mark.  See what D T tells you.  Both for the value of the TOD 
clock (GMT) and the local time.

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Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

2007-08-28 Thread Craddock, Chris
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/27/forklift_ibm_server/
 
 It looked to me like it was a mainframe that fell but its somewhat
 vague.
 
 Could the US Patent  Trade Office be coming back into the mainframe
FOLD.
 Back in the 1990s, the PTO (with great fanfare) kicked out the ugly
 mainframe
 in favor of running SUN UNIX. So most likely this had to be a System P
 although if anyone hears anything, would be interested. Maybe it could
be
 something for running Linux on z.

Both System p and System z are built on the same line, by the same
people and packaged into the same crates for shipping. And having taken
the tour of the production facility several times, I can tell you they
are -very- thorough at every step of the way. I would be pretty
skeptical that the packaging of the box had anything to do with whatever
really happened here. 

CC

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Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

2007-08-28 Thread Mueller, David
We had a good auditor working for the State of Florida, but she has
since retired.  Her background included application programmer, systems
programmer, and RACF Administrator.  So she knew what she was looking
for and could make it a lot easier to supply.  No 'wool pulling' over
her eyes.  

I liked working with her.  She saved us a lot of hassle and effort on a
couple of audits.  She also made it easy to shut someone up who wanted
to ignore some policies. 

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Good auditors are very helpful! And as rare as atmosphere on Luna.

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CA SupportConnect down

2007-08-28 Thread Brian Peterson
CA's support web site http://supportconnect.ca.com is down.

I called the CA help desk, and they said there are issues right now with the 
web site.  No ETA.

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Re: CA SupportConnect down

2007-08-28 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/28/2007 12:37:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
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and they  said there are issues right now with the 
web site.  No  ETA.




Wonder who's software they're running?



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Re: CA SupportConnect down

2007-08-28 Thread Paul D'Angelo
Have any of these so called computer giants ever here of the term
backup site  or  failover site.





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Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

2007-08-28 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
 

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Behalf Of Craddock, Chris
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Subject: Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/27/forklift_ibm_server/
 
 It looked to me like it was a mainframe that fell but its somewhat 
 vague.
 
 Could the US Patent  Trade Office be coming back into the mainframe
FOLD.
 Back in the 1990s, the PTO (with great fanfare) kicked out the ugly 
 mainframe in favor of running SUN UNIX. So most likely this had to be 
 a System P although if anyone hears anything, would be interested. 
 Maybe it could
be
 something for running Linux on z.

Both System p and System z are built on the same line, by the same
people and packaged into the same crates for shipping. And having taken
the tour of the production facility several times, I can tell you they
are -very- thorough at every step of the way. I would be pretty
skeptical that the packaging of the box had anything to do with whatever
really happened here. 

CC



I've never been to the IBM facility, but I've been on the other end -
running a forklift.  If it happened like the news reports say, it was
definitely operator error, combined with a forklift that was too small
for the pallet that was dropped (which would also have been operator
error - unless some PHB told him to move it anyway...) There is no way a
properly sized forklift should have started rocking by going over a
bump.  If it did start rocking, the operator should have set the load
down - which should have only been a couple inches above the floor to
begin with. 

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Re: Send a IODF file in a email

2007-08-28 Thread R.S.

Jack Kelly wrote:

If you're going to FTP  the IODF file, you can FTP from one HMC to another
HMC, at least at level 1.9.


Huh ?
What is 1.9 ?
There is no HMC 1.9 (however we have 2.9.x), there is (will be soon) 
z/OS 1.9, but it is unrelated to HMC. Last, but not least, HMC does not 
hold IODF. It can manage IOCDS, which is sligthly different animal. 
AFAIK IOCDS is kept on SE.


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Re: CA SupportConnect down

2007-08-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 12:37:54 -0500, Brian Peterson 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

CA's support web site http://supportconnect.ca.com is down.

I called the CA help desk, and they said there are issues right now 
with the
web site.  No ETA.
...

For years I said other vendors should emulate IBM support.
This wasn't exactly what I meant.

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z/Expo questions

2007-08-28 Thread Lionel B Dyck
I have been told that I've permission to attend the ibm z/expo next month.

I'm very familiar with SHARE and that is the basis for my questions:

1) does the z/expo have a scheduling tool like SHARE's  (I found their 
excel worksheet of sessions - nearly worthless for scheduling) ?

2) during their sessions do they have wireless access available to access 
and view the session handouts over the web (or are they still paper 
oriented) ?

3) any hints/tips for a z/expo first timer?

Thanks

(I assume snubbing does not occur at the expo?)

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Re: CA SupportConnect down

2007-08-28 Thread Robert Justice
maybe c/a has started using the world famous web authentication service

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JES2 converter via /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=xxxx

2007-08-28 Thread Mark H. Young
In a JES2 MAS (Multi Access SPOOL) environ with two different levels of z/OS 
running, if you submit a batch job on system , but want it to go thru 
conversion on system  (for correct system symbol resolution), AND for 
execution on system , you would code a:  /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=
correct?

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Re: z/Expo questions

2007-08-28 Thread Al Sherkow
Lionel --

I've been attending z/Expo (now System z Expo) as a speaker since 1999. I
don't believe there is an online tool, though they have very good printed
agenda when you arrive onsite. There are not as many subject areas as at
Share: z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE and Linux. Within these areas sessions are
categorized into 12 groups such as G: General System z Technology, Z: z/OS
System Software and Parallel Sysplex, P: WLM and z/OS Performance, W: z/OS
Transactions, DB and Networking, L: Linux on System z, etc. 

The 'big' difference is that some of the very popular sessions are repeated
during the week. For example Kathy Walsh from the Washington System Center
is presenting WSC z/OS Performance Hot Topics on Wednesday at 4:10 and
Thursday at 2:35. Peter Enrico is presenting WLM - Revisiting Goals in
2008 on Wed at 10:15 and Thur at 1pm. 

Sessions are 1h15m long. I add pages to my sessions and can cover more in
the session than at Share. 

There usually is (and I'm told there will be) a wireless connection
available throughout the conference area. I don't believe the sessions are
online, but you'll receive a CD of the entire conference which I often view
and take notes on during sessions rather than the paper handouts. They are
in PDF format, so to take notes on the files, you need some additional
software. I use Adobe Acrobat, but they may be other tools.  

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Re: JES2 converter via /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=xxxx

2007-08-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
want it to go thru conversion on system  (for correct system symbol 
resolution), AND for 
execution on system , you would code a: 
/*JOBPARM SYSAFF= correct?

No. Symbol resolution is not supported for batch JCL.

This has been discussed many times on the list.

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Re: JES2 converter via /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=xxxx

2007-08-28 Thread Mark H. Young
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 20:01:37 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

want it to go thru conversion on system  (for correct system symbol 
resolution), AND for
execution on system , you would code a:
/*JOBPARM SYSAFF= correct?

No. Symbol resolution is not supported for batch JCL.

This has been discussed many times on the list.


OK, then how do I submit a batch job on system  with z/OS 1.4 and have 
it execute on system  with z/OS 1.7 in that MAS, and have the job 
resolve the dataset names correctly on the EXECUTING system?

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Re: z/Expo questions

2007-08-28 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Al - Thanks.

On the handout CD are the PDF created in such a way that the free adobe 
reader can be used to make notes?

There is a security setting Commenting and if it is enabled I believe 
you can use the free reader to make notes.

Thanks

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Re: JES2 converter via /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=xxxx

2007-08-28 Thread Edward Jaffe

Mark H. Young wrote:
OK, then how do I submit a batch job on system  with z/OS 1.4 and have 
it execute on system  with z/OS 1.7 in that MAS, and have the job 
resolve the dataset names correctly on the EXECUTING system?
  


In JES2, if you code SYSAFF= on the /*JOBPARM statement, conversion, 
interpretation, and execution will occur on the same system image. I'm 
not exactly sure what you mean by resolve the data set names correctly.


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SCLM Puzzlement

2007-08-28 Thread Hal Merritt
I have some new users (created under z/os 1.7) that cannot invoke SCLM
functions. SCLM starts, but an attempt to browse a SCLM controlled
dataset yields:

FLM81204 - ERROR INITIALIZING THE PROJECT DEFINITION, CODE: 8

A trip to the FM found words, but not information:

8 An error occurred while attempting to obtain the specified
project definition or alternate project definition. Verify the project
or alternate project definition..

I was not able to recreate the error by recreating ISPPROF, only by
creating a new user. All can browse the PROJDEFS.LOAD and the member
therein. I see no RACF messages. Older users are not seeing any
problems. 

Do I remember a SCLM command that has to be issued before the very first
invocation? 

Ideas, anyone? 

Thanks. 

 

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Re: JES2 converter via /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=xxxx

2007-08-28 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark H. Young
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:35 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: JES2 converter via /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=

In a JES2 MAS (Multi Access SPOOL) environ with two different levels of
z/OS running, if you submit a batch job on system , but want it to
go thru conversion on system  (for correct system symbol
resolution), AND for 
execution on system , you would code a:  /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=
correct?
SNIP

One method you may want to explore is /*XMIT

The idea is that your job is transmitted to the node where you wish it
to execute. That node then is responsible for Convert/Interpret of the
JCL. I assume you have the JES2 parms/exits set so that only the
addressed system will pick up and process the xmitted stream.

Regards,
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Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

2007-08-28 Thread Kirk Talman
There was a book titled Games People Play.  It can be very effective to 
ask an auditor (in a less than direct way) to play the game found in the 
book called Let's you and him/her fight to achieve your goals that 
involve uncooperative or not knowledgeable persons, particularly those not 
in your chain of command.  One person I work with is very effective at 
this.  Not everyone appreciates her talent.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/28/2007 
12:36:15 PM:

 We had a good auditor working for the State of Florida 
 ...  She also made it easy to shut someone up who wanted
 to ignore some policies. 

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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe

McKown, John wrote:
   


COMMAND JCL is the JES-neutral way to do this.

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Why even bother with COMMAND?

// VARY cuu,OFFLINE

works for me.
 


Hmph! I didn't know you could do that! Where is it documented?
   



It's sort of documented here (z/OS 1.7 MVS JCL Reference):

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2B661/3.1

First entry in table 3.1 is an example.

Been working that way for at least a decade that I know about; only
recently (past 3 - 4 years) have I see our programmers start using the
COMMAND keyword.
 


-unsnip--
Worked in OS/360 R19.6; that's where I first used it to vary tape drives 
offline/online.


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Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

2007-08-28 Thread Mueller, David
In this case, there was no game-playing.  We had an agency using our
system that wanted to create only a small number of IDs and have all
their staff share those IDs.  When we informed them that it was contrary
to our policy, they wanted the chapter and verse.  Due to personnel
turn-over, we were having trouble finding it, so the question was sent
to the auditor.  Her response was relayed to the requestor, and that was
the end of that idea.

I have missed her on the last two audits.

David Mueller | Systems Programmer | DMS/CITS
Phone: 850-414-9134 (Rm 107 SRC) | Fax: 850-921-8343
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Subject: Re: Good Auditors (was: Vary devices online and offline)

There was a book titled Games People Play.  It can be very effective
to 
ask an auditor (in a less than direct way) to play the game found in the

book called Let's you and him/her fight to achieve your goals that 
involve uncooperative or not knowledgeable persons, particularly those
not 
in your chain of command.  One person I work with is very effective at 
this.  Not everyone appreciates her talent.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 08/28/2007

12:36:15 PM:

 We had a good auditor working for the State of Florida 
 ...  She also made it easy to shut someone up who wanted
 to ignore some policies. 

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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread Skip Robinson
There can still be a serious problem with mass VARY commands despite the
huge improvements in CONSOLE and contention management, depending on how
the commands are issued. We experienced some episodes of severe degradation
while installing some new DASD subsystems. Our storage guys ran jobs on
member of a sysplex that issued a large number of commands like this:

ROUTE *ALL,V ,ONLINE or OFFLINE

Command processing got so backed up that automation failed to respond to
some message traps for over an hour! The problem turned out to be
'aggregation', one system's attempt to gather responses from multiple
systems and display them all at once. It turns out that aggregation can
lead to a huge backlog of responses from ROUTEd commands even when the
commands are spaced out. Workaround is a little noticed parameter T=nnn on
the ROUTE command. From System Commands:

RO {sysname,text }
   {[T=nnn,]{*ALL }[,L={a }] }
   {sysgrpname   }{name}
   {*OTHER   }{name-a   }
   {(sysname[,sysgrpname,sysname...])}

T=  Specifies an optional timeout interval. T= is valid with *ALL, *OTHER,
sysgrpname, or a list of system names or sysgrpnames. You can specify a
value from 0 to 999. This value indicates the maximum number of seconds MVS
waits for responses from each system before aggregating the responses.
If you specify T=0, MVS does not aggregate command responses, but
individually sends responses to the originator.

Notes:

1. IBM recommends that you specify T=0 when you are routing the START and
STOP commands to multiple systems. This is because the system does not
collect aggregate responses for routed START and STOP commands. If you
attempt to do so (if T= is nonzero), the system states that there is no
response from all of the systems, and all the START and STOP command
responses are displayed inline.

2. IBM does not recommend that you specify T=0 for most DISPLAY commands.
Command responses from most DISPLAY commands appear in an out-of-line
display area, and the responses from multiple DISPLAY commands can be
written into the same area one right after the other, so that only the last
one is readable. If there is no display area defined, or if L=Z is used,
the responses are inline, but will probably roll off the console. Responses
from ROUTE with T=0 and a DISPLAY command specified could be useful to an
automation program and as a hardcopy record, but not for a human operator.


I myself would add Note 3: If you are issuing commands from within a batch
job, you don't care about aggregation, so please do specify T=0 to save
yourself a lot of grief.

.
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:12:15 -0400, John Eells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rob Scott wrote:
 In the old days, issuing lots of vary operator commands could cause
system problems - I am not sure if that has been fixed yet.
snip

In z/OS R7, the code was changed to attach up to 32 subtasks to process
VARY OFFLINE commands in parallel.  In z/OS R8, it was changed to do the
same for VARY ONLINE.  We think this should have done a lot to 

Re: Future Date USS

2007-08-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
(cross-posted to IBM-MAIN and MVS-OE: the thread seems to have
hyperspaced.)

In a recent note, Paul H Bohannon said:
 
 Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:03:44 -0500
 
 Has anyone put in a Requirement through SHARE users group for an IBM
 response.
 
Has anyone tried zapping CVTLSO?  That should be applied to
both Classic and OMVS environments.  Or is CVTLSO applied only
if Leap Seconds are selected in PARMLIB?

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Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Fochtman

-snip--
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/27/forklift_ibm_server/

It looked to me like it was a mainframe that fell but its somewhat vague.
--unsnip---
Seems to me that the carrier would be responsible for the damages. 
That's why carriers buy insurance! But then again, who supplied the fork 
lift and operator?


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Re: CA SupportConnect down

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Fochtman

snip
Have any of these so called computer giants ever here of the term 
backup site or failover site.

-unsnip
Obviously not. Maybe it's the intellectual paralytics in accounting that 
are driving the ship.


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Jes2 OFFLOAD leaving out some JOBNAME

2007-08-28 Thread Alvaro Quintupray B.
Hi.

  Can I do OFFLOADn,type=transmit  from spool  and   leaving some 
JOBNAME  out   off  Tape ...? 

I'm using Zos 1.6

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Another take on IBM vs. PSI

2007-08-28 Thread Gary Green
http://virtualization.sys-con.com/read/421070.htm



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Re: Each CPU usage

2007-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/26/2007
   at 10:34 PM, Bill Wilkie [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I would suggest that before you do the upgrade, check out SMF for
excessive spin records 

Why would an application, or CICS, acquire a spin lock in the first
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Re: Each CPU usage

2007-08-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I would suggest that before you do the upgrade, check out SMF for excessive 
spin records

I've been working with SMF since 1981.
Please tell me the type that is spin.

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Re: IBM Blamed for Server packaging issue

2007-08-28 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 28, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:

--unsnip---
Seems to me that the carrier would be responsible for the damages.  
That's why carriers buy insurance! But then again, who supplied the  
fork lift and operator?


Microsoft?:)

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Re: Another take on IBM vs. PSI

2007-08-28 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 28, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Gary Green wrote:


http://virtualization.sys-con.com/read/421070.htm



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Gary,

I posted a similar item a few days ago I did not comment on it as I  
thought the reader was up to making his/her own mind.


Having said that probably the only comment that can be made is that  
lawyers will end up winning and the everybody else will be the losers.


I certainly would not like to be judge, jury or connected with the  
case as it seems that there are reasonable arguments on both side of  
the issue. I would like to see PSI win though. Since the DOJ is  
blinded by $$ it cannot be considered independent it might be more  
fair (IMO) to say that the DOJ is in the hip pocket of IBM.


Let the war begin.

Ed

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Re: Another take on IBM vs. PSI

2007-08-28 Thread Gary Green
A couple of days ago...?  Boy, I am falling down on the job. :(

Yeah, the lawyers will win in the end, they almost always seem to.  It
really is sad that it came to this.

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On Aug 28, 2007, at 5:50 PM, Gary Green wrote:

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Gary,

I posted a similar item a few days ago I did not comment on it as I 
thought the reader was up to making his/her own mind.

Having said that probably the only comment that can be made is that 
lawyers will end up winning and the everybody else will be the losers.

I certainly would not like to be judge, jury or connected with the 
case as it seems that there are reasonable arguments on both side of 
the issue. I would like to see PSI win though. Since the DOJ is 
blinded by $$ it cannot be considered independent it might be more 
fair (IMO) to say that the DOJ is in the hip pocket of IBM.

Let the war begin.

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Re: IBMLink (3270) and non-standard screen size

2007-08-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
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   at 08:52 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Does the 3270 interface to IBMLink support non-standard (i.e.,
other than 24x80) screen sizes? 

43x80 is standard, and used to work. For that matter, 62x160 is also
standard and also used to work.

Did you take a VTAM buffer trace to see what was actually going down
the line? Or is the communications through a TN3270 server at the IBM
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IBM System z Expo - Sept 17-21, 2007 San Antonio, TX

2007-08-28 Thread Pamela Christina in sunny Endicott NY
Cross posted to IBMVM, Linux-390, and IBM-MAINfor your reading pleasure

Hello IBM  mainframe enthusiasts,

Are you looking for the next opportunity for System z education ?
If you were unable to attend SHARE, or even if you did, consider
attending the IBM System z Expo in San Antonio, Sept 17-21, 2007.

  IBM System z Expo featuring z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE and Linux on System z
  Sept. 17-21, 2007  (Monday morning through Friday noon)
  San Antonio, TX - Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center

The conference web site has the details on enrollment, agenda, expo:
 http://ibm.com/training/us/conf/systemz

Over 350 in-depth sessions offer insight into:
 IBM System z9 BC and EC server updates
 z/OS  V1.9 improvements
 z/VM  V5.3 enhancements
 z/VSE Version 4 refinements
 Linux on System z developments, Linux Utilities
 WebSphere Application Server for z/OS V6 Implementation
 Server Time Protocol, GDPS and Parallel Sysplex
 Service Oriented Architecture (SOA)
 WebSphere MQ, DB2, CICS, IMS
 Virtualization
 Customer System z User Experiences
 IBM System z Security
 Professional Development

New to the mainframe? Begin with the basics track for those who
are getting started with System z, z/OS, z/VM, z/VSE,
connectivity, virtualization, and Linux on System z

The ever popular hands-on-labs continue to be offered.

After class, wind down at the solutions center
on Monday-Wednesday with discussions and demos from IBM and ISVs.

You can find out how to save on conference fees with the
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This event is not limited to US attendees, it is open to
customers worldwide. All sessions are presented in English.

Thank you.


We look forward to seeing you in San Antonio.
Enroll today at:
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Re: CA SupportConnect down

2007-08-28 Thread Ed Gould

On Aug 28, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote:


snip
Have any of these so called computer giants ever here of the term  
backup site or failover site.

-unsnip
Obviously not. Maybe it's the intellectual paralytics in accounting  
that are driving the ship.





I wonder if TANDEM and Stratus would come up with a good reason.

Ed

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SHARE requirement of possible interest to this group

2007-08-28 Thread Bill Klein
If you are a SHARE member and are not currently registered to participate in
the LNGC requirement process, I would like to suggest that the following
requirement MIGHT be of sufficient interest to you - so that you (or someone
in your installation) will register and participate in LNGC processing.  

The requirement just put in the Open for Discussion status is:

SSLNGC07008 - Exception criteria options for LE SYSMDUMP RTO

The discussion begins,

Need the ability to tell LE to take a SYSMDUMP based off a jobname, abend
code, and additional criteria (such as program name, CSECT name) similar to
what SLIP allows. 

The fact that LE issues abends for application programs limits the
granularity of SLIP from using program/CSECT name. For instance in an IMS
Message Processing Region the jobname may be IMSMPR1. There can be thousands
of programs that execute within IMSMPR1 and millions of transactions
executed. There can be several U40xx abends within IMSMPR1 on a given day.
In an IMS MPR some shops do not allow dumps to be produced, to avoid
bringing the region down. To gather dump information in a MPR, SLIP is set
for the U40xx abend. However, the SLIP is limited by LE in that it can't be
any more granular than abend code because the abend is always being issued
by LE, not the application program. Before LE the SLIP could be set up for
the jobname, abend code and the program/csect that was in control.

  ***

If this (or any other LE, COBOL, PL/I, or C/C++) requirement might be of
interest, please register for our project's requirement processing and give
us your input.

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Re: How to switch UID under OMVS

2007-08-28 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Tommy Tsui wrote:

Hi all,

Anyone know how to switch the UID under OMVs.

I try to use SU but failed.

#id
uid=0(EDPXPER) gid=2(SYS1)

when I invoke using the TSO OMVS with userid TEST001, it always show the
EDPXPER and cannot be changed to other TEST001. Anything need to be set...

thanks for help

Tommy

As Lou stated, this is working as designed.  Based on my experience the 
userid shows based on the lowest name that has that UID.


EDPXPER is lower thatn TEST001, so it shows.  If you had a userid of 
ASUUSER, it would show.


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Re: How to switch UID under OMVS

2007-08-28 Thread Tommy Tsui
I see...thanks Lou Losee

On 8/28/07, Lou Losee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Tommy,
 It appears that both EDPXPER and TEST001 have a uid=0.  If this is the
 case,
 then what you are seeing is working as designed.  If there are multiple
 uid's with the same value (0 in this case), the name associated with the
 display of the uid (for instance with as ls -l command) is only guaranteed
 to be one with that numeric uid.  There is no guarantee for the name to be
 a
 name associated with a specific instance of the numeric uid.

 Lou Losee

 On 8/28/07, Tommy Tsui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  Anyone know how to switch the UID under OMVs.
 
  I try to use SU but failed.
 
  #id
  uid=0(EDPXPER) gid=2(SYS1)
 
  when I invoke using the TSO OMVS with userid TEST001, it always show the
  EDPXPER and cannot be changed to other TEST001. Anything need to be
 set...
 
  thanks for help
 
  Tommy
 
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Re: Vary devices online and offline

2007-08-28 Thread John Ticic
-- snip --

ROUTE *ALL,V ,ONLINE or OFFLINE

Command processing got so backed up that automation failed to respond to
some message traps for over an hour! The problem turned out to be
'aggregation', one system's attempt to gather responses from multiple
systems and display them all at once. It turns out that aggregation can
lead to a huge backlog of responses from ROUTEd commands even when the
commands are spaced out. Workaround is a little noticed parameter T=nnn on
the ROUTE command. From System Commands:

-- snip --

Skip,
'little noticed parameter' seems to apply to me! I've had this problem in
the past, and stopped using *ALL as the Sysplex target of the command.
Instead, I simply directed the command individually to each Sysplex members
(it was generated from a program - so all information was available). This
got around any kind of delay issue.

I'll have to look at T=00.

Thanks

John

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