Re: PPRC Cestpair problem

2012-06-05 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Thanks Gonzalo,

I was completely sure the target devices were offline to all LPARs and it 
turned out I was wrong.

Thanks also to Ron, Clifford and Zaromil for weighing in on this item. 

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From: Gonzalo Cengotita [mailto:gonzaloce...@gmail.com] 
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Dave,

Are you completely sure there is not any other partition using this device?
It happened to me, the device was online in a partition isolated from the one I 
was trying to do the CESTPAIR (there was no shared resources between them). In 
this case you would not see it with the CQUERY command, but the command fails 
alike.

regards,

Gonzalo Cengotita

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Re: PPRC Cestpair problem

2012-05-31 Thread Gonzalo Cengotita
Dave,

Are you completely sure there is not any other partition using this device?
It happened to me, the device was online in a partition isolated from the
one I was trying to do the CESTPAIR (there was no shared resources between
them). In this case you would not see it with the CQUERY command, but the
command fails alike.

regards,

Gonzalo Cengotita

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Re: PPRC Cestpair problem

2012-05-31 Thread Ron hawkins
Zaromil,

The PPRC commands to create a TrueCopy pair in the same Controller with a 
loopback will work as long as you do not have Shadowimage installed.

With Shadowimage installed the controller will note the Primary and Secondary 
have the same Storage Control Unit and will create a Shadowimage pair instead 
of a TrueCopy pair.

Ron

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  (PRIMARY)   (SECONDARY) *
 SSID CCA LSS SSID CCA LSS*
DEVICE   LEVEL  STATE PATH STATUS  SERIAL# SERIAL#*
-- -  --  --- --  *
 1321  .  SIMPLEX...   INACTIVE   1300 21 03   .. *
 ... ...  00045342  1300 21 03*
   ...   ...  *
 PATHS SAID DEST STATUS: DESCRIPTION  *
 - - --  ---  *
   0       00NO PATH  *
       00NO PATH  *
       00NO PATH  *
       00NO PATH  *
  SUBSYSTEM WWNN   LIC LEVEL  *
 ---  --- *
 PRIMARY  96.0.0.0*
***
NTP0001I CQUERY COMMAND COMPLETED FOR DEVICE 1321. COMPLETION CODE: 00
**

  (PRIMARY)   (SECONDARY) *
 SSID CCA LSS SSID CCA LSS*
DEVICE   LEVEL  STATE PATH STATUS  SERIAL# SERIAL#*
-- -  --  --- --  *
 1320  .  SIMPLEX...   INACTIVE   1300 20 03   .. *
 ... ...  00045342  1300 20 03*
   ...   ...  *
 PATHS SAID DEST STATUS: DESCRIPTION  *

I didn't even know that it is possible to establish PPRC pairs in the same 
control unit, always thought SSIDs (control units) have to be different.

The PPRC license for HDS subsystems is also based on capacity, as far as I 
know. Everytime I had no more PPRC capacity available I got some weird 
ANTPmessage, but I would say it was different from what you have got. Now , it 
could also depend of the HDS subsystem that you have. Anyway, what is the 
capacity of your 208 volumes (or, if these are 208 volume pairs and all in the 
same subsystem, you would need the capacity of both all primary and secondary 
volumes) and check the licensed capacity with the storage navigator (or let the 
support person do that).

If you want to check the PPRC messages, set msgid in TSO profile to get message 
ids and look into MVS System Messages
Volume 1 (ABA - AOM) under ANTP (PPRC ANT) messages, although they can be often 
misleading (at least when you have some atypical problems on HDS subsystems).

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Re: PPRC Cestpair problem

2012-05-30 Thread Zaromil Tisler
  (PRIMARY)   (SECONDARY) *
 SSID CCA LSS SSID CCA LSS*
DEVICE   LEVEL  STATE PATH STATUS  SERIAL# SERIAL#*
-- -  --  --- --  *
 1321  .  SIMPLEX...   INACTIVE   1300 21 03   .. *
 ... ...  00045342  1300 21 03*
   ...   ...  *
 PATHS SAID DEST STATUS: DESCRIPTION  *
 - - --  ---  *
   0       00NO PATH  *
       00NO PATH  *
       00NO PATH  *
       00NO PATH  *
  SUBSYSTEM WWNN   LIC LEVEL  *
 ---  --- *
 PRIMARY  96.0.0.0*
***
NTP0001I CQUERY COMMAND COMPLETED FOR DEVICE 1321. COMPLETION CODE: 00
**

  (PRIMARY)   (SECONDARY) *
 SSID CCA LSS SSID CCA LSS*
DEVICE   LEVEL  STATE PATH STATUS  SERIAL# SERIAL#*
-- -  --  --- --  *
 1320  .  SIMPLEX...   INACTIVE   1300 20 03   .. *
 ... ...  00045342  1300 20 03*
   ...   ...  *
 PATHS SAID DEST STATUS: DESCRIPTION  *

I didn't even know that it is possible to establish PPRC pairs in the same 
control unit, always thought SSIDs (control units) have to be different.

The PPRC license for HDS subsystems is also based on capacity, as far as I 
know. Everytime I had no more PPRC capacity available I got some weird 
ANTPmessage, but I would say it was different from what you have got. Now , it 
could also depend of the HDS subsystem that you have. Anyway, what is the 
capacity of your 208 volumes (or, if these are 208 volume pairs and all in the 
same subsystem, you would need the capacity of both all primary and secondary 
volumes) and check the licensed capacity with the storage navigator (or let the 
support person do that).

If you want to check the PPRC messages, set msgid in TSO profile to get message 
ids and look into MVS System Messages
Volume 1 (ABA - AOM) under ANTP (PPRC ANT) messages, although they can be often 
misleading (at least when you have some atypical problems on HDS subsystems).

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Re: PPRC Cestpair problem

2012-05-25 Thread Clifford McNeill
 
 Is it possible I've hit a ceiling for the amount of PPRC Duplex volumes? We 
 are currently duplexing 208 volumes.
 

 
We are licensed by amount of space on our DS8300.  Try issuing the CQUERY 
command against the secondary device.  I'm guessing it is already in a pprc 
session.
Cliff McNeill
 

  
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Re: PPRC Cestpair problem

2012-05-25 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
No, target device is simplex as is the primary device

  (PRIMARY)   (SECONDARY) * 
 SSID CCA LSS SSID CCA LSS* 
DEVICE   LEVEL  STATE PATH STATUS  SERIAL# SERIAL#* 
-- -  --  --- --  * 
 1321  .  SIMPLEX...   INACTIVE   1300 21 03   .. * 
 ... ...  00045342  1300 21 03*
   ...   ...  * 
 PATHS SAID DEST STATUS: DESCRIPTION  * 
 - - --  ---  * 
   0       00NO PATH  * 
       00NO PATH  * 
       00NO PATH  * 
       00NO PATH  * 
  SUBSYSTEM WWNN   LIC LEVEL  * 
 ---  --- * 
 PRIMARY  96.0.0.0* 
*** 
NTP0001I CQUERY COMMAND COMPLETED FOR DEVICE 1321. COMPLETION CODE: 00  
**  

  (PRIMARY)   (SECONDARY) *   
 SSID CCA LSS SSID CCA LSS*   
DEVICE   LEVEL  STATE PATH STATUS  SERIAL# SERIAL#*   
-- -  --  --- --  *   
 1320  .  SIMPLEX...   INACTIVE   1300 20 03   .. *   
 ... ...  00045342  1300 20 03*   
   ...   ...  *   
 PATHS SAID DEST STATUS: DESCRIPTION  *   

But thanks for the suggestion.

Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor

From: Clifford McNeill [sy...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 2:37 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: PPRC Cestpair problem


 Is it possible I've hit a ceiling for the amount of PPRC Duplex volumes? We 
 are currently duplexing 208 volumes.



We are licensed by amount of space on our DS8300.  Try issuing the CQUERY 
command against the secondary device.  I'm guessing it is already in a pprc 
session.
Cliff McNeill



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