[ilugd] [News/Commercial] Accel to set up Linux centers
I dont know what category to put this in. Just heard of this. Sounds like a decent job opportunity for Delhi Linux folk. -- re rahul Accel to set up Linux centers The competency centers, to be set up with an investment of Rs 2 crore, will enable ISVs to simulate client environments and critically analyze the solutions. Monday, March 29, 2004 CHENNAI: Accel ICIM, provider of IT solutions and system integration, will very shortly set up Linux Competency Centers in Chennai and Delhi. These Linux competency centers, to be set up with an investment of Rs 2 crore, will enable ISVs to simulate client environments and critically analyze the solution offered, in terms of ease and performance prior to buying the product. Briefing the media, president and COO of Accel ICIM, SV Sriram, remarked that Linux is gaining ground in India too, especially in the e-governance projects, which are running on the Linux platform. Many of the public sector units and large corporates are shifting to the Linux platform. The key factor in Linux building ground is its cost saving factor. Though in India, the market has already been created for Linux, when it comes to support not many players are there in this space. And Accel will address this segment through its competency center and call center. The competency centers will offer proof-of-concept and development environment, hands-on demonstrations, product benchmarking, Linux and open source consultancy and implementation services, beta testing, Linux and open source software support service. Each Linux competency center will be equipped with Sun x86 range servers. These servers will have the various applications like SendMail, Qmail, Samba, Oracle, MySQL, Apache, Squid and others running in a clustered environment, so that a company may test and analyze the technology before investing the same. According to Sriram, The Linux Competency Centers will generate revenue to the tune of Rs 40 crore. What about the rate of conversion to Linux? Anybody who comes to our competency center will convert, he replied. - End forwarded message - ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] evolution tip: LL to LL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 different versions of the same software might cause incompatibilities in the future and make all your data unusable. rrs On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, linuxlingam wrote: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:10:35 +0530 From: linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ilugd] evolution tip: LL to LL dear all, have successfully managed to create two shell scripts, that automatically mount and unmount LL's RH8 home directory into LL's fedora. works great. but the two shell scripts can only be run by root, manually. any way of running these two shell scripts automatically as root without typing the password, but only when the user LL logs in? okay, here's a small little tip i've discovered. i want to work with LL's evolution folders+contacts+calendar on RH8, while working in fedora's evolution. but i don't want to import. with just linking, i can work in either RH8 or fedora without having two separate archives to synchronize. in the /home/LL directory of fedora, there's a folder called 'evolution.' i deleted it. created a symbolic link to the evolution folder of LL on RH8, in /home/LL of fedora, using the command ln -s. launched evolution. bingo! i can work seamlessly in evolution in either RH8 or Fedora. :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Ritesh Raj Sarraf Email: rrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] researchut.com Web: http://www.researchut.com Phone: +91-9899655651 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFAao2S4Rhi6gTxMLwRAskoAKCK3eXvXNOvfvwkxfCOqlsIbVYsFgCghwB3 Ez0qd3PTf9JPaxiUruMrfp0= =CXHk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] evolution tip: LL to LL
any way of running these two shell scripts automatically as root without typing the password, but only when the user LL logs in? would sudo be of any use to you ? http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/sudo.html -- Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Email server with dual gateways
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/31/2004 01:11 PM, Yashpal Nagar wrote: | I believe you need source based routing. | iproute2 can help you in this. Such that if the src is the | xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ( which is you WAN IP of your Secondary MX server) sent | it via local | interface of your primary mx server. This would not work as the source is not constant. The gateway forwards the source so the mail server sees a connection from whatever mail gateway is trying to send email. We dont want the mail server to see the source as the lan ip of the gateway since the lan is trusted. Also the mail server will do no IP checks on the connection. - - Ankur. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAapk9bR7mO5apBYARAqLQAKDVHG3L4/cYRw0RBr1tsupKXnnwVQCeNaX2 8lMEo3BRX2gUlyN+P2CLOWY= =r1Un -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Minutes of ILUGD March 28, 2004 meeting
raj, really comprehensive summary. thanks. :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
So until now we have the following for the April Meeting 1. Venue: LFY will provide at Okhla Phase I 2. Convenor: Mayank Sharma (LFY) ( We need a ILUGD Meeting Convenor howto: I am not volunteering yet ) 3. Speakers who volunteered till now: 1. Vivek Khurana: Explaining Debian to Redhat Diehards 2. Nirender Awasthi: Presentation on Localization 3. Ankur Rohtangi(has not yet actually volunteered): Desktop Power Tools (i.e. Tasks traditional considered difficult in Linux ) We would love someone to show off a fully loaded Desktop with all the goodies. Would Vivek (exain.net) also volunteer to 4. Standby Speakers: Still needed Now that everyone knows how useful they are in the chaotic world of ILUGD ;-) 5. Suggested Theme: Linux Desktop power tools (This would encompass localization as well) -Tarun PS: Time to start planning the May,June Meets as well ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 16:50, Tarun Dua wrote: So until now we have the following for the April Meeting 1. Venue: LFY will provide at Okhla Phase I 2. Convenor: Mayank Sharma (LFY) [snip] date: 18th april 2004. time: 2pm. temperature:49.5 degrees celcius in the sun. 21 degrees celcius in the aircon meeting room. location: see archive of previous announcement for directions. [insert url here]. okay, i love the topic: desktop power. voices across the industry herald this year as the arrival of linux on mainstream desktops. this topic, as a howto, is a great way of endorsing this. newbies: please add what else you'd like to see and understand on the desktop: a) instant messaging? b) cellphone-to-desktop syncing? c) digital camera thru usb? ... speak up, and be heard. :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] bad apples
how muft and mukt communities really work: http://www.csh.rit.edu/~benjamin/articles/bad_apples.php :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD
--- Pankaj Dekate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, present in any linux distributions.I would indeed stress on day to day utilities and documentation which are much needed.Lify cd's should come up with new libraries and the accompanying dependencies.Otherwise there is no point in coming up with a library which has a dependency on a newer version of other library which is not included with lify cd. Now this is a good idea. can you make a list of newer libs along with dependencies and post it to list. Any way all the tools will carry the latest versions of the softwares which will certainly be newer than the ones provided with a distro. Bugzilla and Doxygen are also a good choice. QMail will also be a good choice in mail server category. Is qmail a development tool IBM Websphere will be a good choice in the application server category. Websphere is a proprietory product. Please do't post proprietory products. Regards VK = Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Minutes of ILUGD March 28, 2004 meeting
Raj Shekhar wrote: I propose that we name Raj Shekhar as official MOM keeper for subsequent ILUGD meets. Note: I do not have the list of attendees. Whoever does please post it in a follow up thread. Well many in the crowd seem to have forgotten to sign the guest book so here's the partial list of attendees. Vishesh Kaul Nirendra Awasthi Ritesh Raj Saraf Abhi Srivastava Ankur Rohatgi Kapil Dua Manpreet Singh Anindya Chakroborty Chandresh Pant Sunit Taneja Yugraj Rai Vivek Khurana Jasmeet Virdi Ankush Mehta Vikas Upadhyay Lokesh Bhog Ankur Tyagi Sunit Taneja Yugraj Rai Rahul Kumar Manish Renuka Sandip Bhattachanya Ashok Appu Eswar Sumit Chaudhary Anand Shankar Rvijayaragaghavan V. Vivek Ritesh Agrawal Nitin Mishra Navneet Tejasvita Sharma J. Sriram Gurpreet Singh Tarun Dua Raj Mathur Shashank Mayank Sharma Niyam Bhushan Raj Shekhar -Tarun PS: Did someone bring the banner to the meet. We didn't display it. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
--- Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Speakers who volunteered till now: 1. Vivek Khurana: Explaining Debian to Redhat Diehards Won't make a sense if the theme is Linux desktop world. I will be concentrating on structural differences and it has nothing to do with desktop(count me as stand by and out-standing speaker in this case) Can any one volunteer to speak on debian server with woody and also debian installation. 5. Suggested Theme: Linux Desktop power tools (This would encompass localization as well) I would say that lets keep this meet focused on Debian and we can incorporate the rest speakers in next meet whose theme i suggesting in following lines. PS: Time to start planning the May,June Meets as well May: Time for NEWBIES MEET. This can incorporate Ankur rohtagi's desktop fun elements and Nirendra's localization regards VK = Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 30 March 2004 16:40, you wrote: [snip] I am adding three more categories 5) Libraries 6) Testing Tools Junit, Ant 7) Misc AgroUML, ORBIT, Bugzilla, Amaya, Webcpp, Doxygen Every one is free to add categories/suggestions How about some desktops/WMs? Esp. the light ones (some of which are pain to download over dial-up) like XPde, XFCE, Fluxbox (not a pain to download, but still, it rocks!) or ROX (well, the things that make up the WM part of it are). Regards VK [snip] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFAaq3Z9mAtgws7e1wRAoi7AJ44Hre/TudsQt4iyBv3VryuV1bQvgCdHjoV jgvO0C+JzY1KBSPdig1xwtI= =kJE3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
vivek khurana wrote: Can any one volunteer to speak on debian server with woody and also debian installation. Time for a quick straw poll ( Why is it called a straw poll ?) 1. Linux Desktop Power ( Or Free Software Desktop power) 2. The Debian, Debian and Debian Meet Vote now and be heard (Quote: LL) -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: New lists: ilugd-dev, ilugd-cd and ilugd-school
Raj Mathur wrote: ilugd-devDevelopment and programming discussion. All languages welcome, but at least TRY to keep the discussions free software and/or Linux-oriented! https://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd-dev Waiting for Sandeep to post the name of the gmane newsgroup. -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 17:24, Tarun Dua wrote: vivek khurana wrote: 1. Linux Desktop Power ( Or Free Software Desktop power) 2. The Debian, Debian and Debian Meet Vote now and be heard (Quote: LL) -Tarun hey! i think both can be done. no big deal. start with 1) and flow into 2). the desktop power talk wouldn't take more than 30 minutes, or even 40 if you cover a whole lot of desktop toys and delights. and then we can move into debian: Seven Steps To Sarge Samadhi: moving from RedHat/Redmond to Debian, for the clueless in a hurry. ;-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
linuxlingam wrote: the desktop power talk wouldn't take more than 30 minutes, or even 40 if you cover a whole lot of desktop toys and delights. and then we can move into debian: Seven Steps To Sarge Samadhi: moving from RedHat/Redmond to Debian, for the clueless in a hurry. ;-) That's what I originally proposed!!! Please read Vivek's post. I think Vivek wants to explain the structural differences (distro specific quirks) which he feels has nothing to do with the Desktop Power. On the other hand I have a feeling that localization has more to do with the desktop. -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Hell of dependencies
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 18:02, Yashpal Nagar wrote: Hey dudes! I Strucked, I need to install one rpm package, why it says it need this .so.0 library instead of saying that This require x rpm/deb to be installed. obviously it should expect one package while installing for dependencies ...then why it ask for SEPARATE library??? Just open http://fr.rpmfind.net and try searching your library there.. you will most probably find it there Please don't tell me apt-get on debian...i know thats better, But i am using redhat based system with apt-get... can apt tell me what package need to be install to have a particular dll ? How/where i can look for libraries which can tell this is contained with this package? Regards, Yash PS: I need one package containing libgdome.so.0 library to have ntop on one of my server. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Hell of dependencies
Searched rpmfind.net already. But found there is nowhere binary available for Redhat9 So what to do now, do i need to compile the source..? Regards, -Yash Manpreet Singh Nehra wrote: On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 18:02, Yashpal Nagar wrote: Hey dudes! I Strucked, I need to install one rpm package, why it says it need this .so.0 library instead of saying that This require x rpm/deb to be installed. obviously it should expect one package while installing for dependencies ...then why it ask for SEPARATE library??? Just open http://fr.rpmfind.net and try searching your library there.. you will most probably find it there Please don't tell me apt-get on debian...i know thats better, But i am using redhat based system with apt-get... can apt tell me what package need to be install to have a particular dll ? How/where i can look for libraries which can tell this is contained with this package? Regards, Yash PS: I need one package containing libgdome.so.0 library to have ntop on one of my server. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Hell of dependencies
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 18:15, Yashpal Nagar wrote: Searched rpmfind.net already. But found there is nowhere binary available for Redhat9 Which binary are you looking for? So what to do now, do i need to compile the source..? Regards, -Yash Manpreet Singh Nehra wrote: On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 18:02, Yashpal Nagar wrote: Hey dudes! I Strucked, I need to install one rpm package, why it says it need this .so.0 library instead of saying that This require x rpm/deb to be installed. obviously it should expect one package while installing for dependencies ...then why it ask for SEPARATE library??? Just open http://fr.rpmfind.net and try searching your library there.. you will most probably find it there Please don't tell me apt-get on debian...i know thats better, But i am using redhat based system with apt-get... can apt tell me what package need to be install to have a particular dll ? How/where i can look for libraries which can tell this is contained with this package? Regards, Yash PS: I need one package containing libgdome.so.0 library to have ntop on one of my server. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] (List of) Linux equivalents of Windows software
One of the most comprehensive lists of this sort on the web. Everyone should really have a look. http://www.security-forums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6545 HTH vik = -- Viksit Gaur http://www.viksit.com me[at]viksit.com viksit[at]linux-delhi[dot]org 'Not all who wander are lost.' - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
On the other hand I have a feeling that localization has more to do with the desktop. I had a plan of starting with desktop and maybe discuss some project ideas if peoples are interested(maybe of desktop apps :)) = Disclaimer: Any resemblance between the above views and those of my employer, my terminal, or the view out my window are purely coincidental. Any resemblance between the above and my own views is non-deterministic. The question of the existence of views in the absence of anyone to hold them is left as an exercise for the reader. The question of the existence of the reader is left as an exercise for the second god coefficient. (A discussion of non-orthogonal, non-integral polytheism is beyond the scope of this article.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: (List of) Linux equivalents of Windows software
Viksit Gaur wrote: One of the most comprehensive lists of this sort on the web. Everyone should really have a look. Actually find it at. http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !!!!!!
Hello Ashwin, Thanks again. I have checked it found modules already there. So I have go to HTB config directly and done all as you suggest. Please go through the following suggest whether I have done it correctly or more modification required? I have IPCHAINS on this server so I have to require to put -m option more in IPCHAINS right? Thanking you, Sandeep Agarwal - - Scenario: Restrict Server, Comp1 Comp2 on given speed. --256kbps---|eth0(203.145.134.112/255.255.255.252) [A] |eth1(Server room) 56kbps (203.145.134.120/255.255.255.248) [B] |eth2(Company2) 80kbps (203.145.134.116/255.255.255.252) [C] (192.168.100.0/255.255.255.0) |eth3(Company1) 120kbps(192.168.200.0/255.255.255.0) [D] - - Now in /etc/sysconfig/htb directory, I have put following files. eth0 DEFAULT=30 R2Q=10 eth0-2.root # root class containing total bandwidth RATE=128kbps BURST=15k eth0-2:1.comp1 # default class for Company1 traffic RATE=120Kbps BURST=15k PRIO=0 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.200.0/24 eth0-2:2.comp2 # default class for Company2 traffic RATE=80Kbps BURST=10k PRIO=1 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.100.0/24 eth0-2:1.server # default class for Server Room traffic RATE=56Kbps BURST=10k PRIO=3 LEAF=sfq RULE=203.145.134.120/29 -- eth1-2:3.root # root class For Server Room containing total bandwidth RATE=56kbps BURST=5k eth1-2:3:30.all # class for Server Room traffic RATE=56Kbps BURST=5k PRIO=3 LEAF=sfq RULE=203.145.134.120/29 MARK=3 -- eth2-2:2.root # root class For Company2 containing total bandwidth RATE=80kbps BURST=8k eth2-2:2:20.all # class for outgoing Company2 traffic RATE=80Kbps BURST=8k PRIO=1 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.100.0/24 MARK=2 -- eth3-2:1.root # root class For Company1 containing total bandwidth RATE=120kbps BURST=15k eth3-2:1:10.all # class for outgoing Company1 traffic RATE=120Kbps BURST=15k PRIO=0 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.200.0/24 MARK=1 - - - Original Message - From: Ashwin Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sandeep Agarwal' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !! First look for the following files in /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/kernel/net/sched sch_htb.o sch_sfq.o cls_fw.o cls_u32.o cls_route.o if these files exist then great you can go directly to HTB config below. Else you will have to compile these. To compile do as follows 1) bash# cd /usr/src/linux-2.4 2) bash# make menuconfig 3) Go to Networking options --- press Enter 4) Go to QoS and/or fair queueing --- press Enter 5) Select * for QoS and/or fair queueing, QoS support, Rate estimator, Packet classifier API and Traffic Policing 6) Select M for HTB packet scheduler, SFQ packet scheduler and all the classifier entries. 7) Compile the kernel bash# make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install (that was one long command) 8) Install the new kernel in boot. Run lilo/grub 9) reboot HTB config Download htb.init and the sample config files from sourceforge Copy htb.init to /etc/init.d Copy sample files to /etc/sysconfig/htb Read the htb.init file to learn how to configure the sample files. It's pretty simple. And Viola! You are done. Best of luck Best regards, Ashwin Shah -Original Message- From: Sandeep Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' Subject: Re: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !! Hello Ashwin, Thank you for your response. I have a RHL9.0 with kernel 2.4.20-8 on i686. Should I require to patch my kernel? If yes, Please suggest which version it OK for this. I have checked the following command # grep htb_qdisc_ops /proc/ksyms But it returns nothing. Thanking you. Sandeep Agarwal - Original Message - From: Ashwin Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sandeep Agarwal' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !! You have to create the htb directory in /etc/sysconfig. Also the format of the files is different. Htb should also be enabled in the kernel either as a module or built into the kernel itself. Though in some ways it is similar to cbq it requires to be compiled into the kernel first. It will take a bit more effort than
RE: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !!!!!!
The files seem to be ok. I am guessing that you must have already tried it out. Ipchains has no relation to this as far as my knowledge goes and I doubt that there would be any relation found. If you have not already done the following please do it. Bash# chmod 500 /etc/init.d/htb.init To start bandwidth management give Bash# /etc/init.d/htb.init start To stop Bash# /etc/init.d/htb.init stop To check status Bash# /etc/init.d/htb.init stat To check bandwidth usage run iptraf Go to LAN station monitor and select the interface You will get the upload and download rates in kbps Best regards, Ashwin Shah -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sandeep Agarwal Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:39 PM To: Ashwin Shah; 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' Subject: Re: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !! Hello Ashwin, Thanks again. I have checked it found modules already there. So I have go to HTB config directly and done all as you suggest. Please go through the following suggest whether I have done it correctly or more modification required? I have IPCHAINS on this server so I have to require to put -m option more in IPCHAINS right? Thanking you, Sandeep Agarwal - - Scenario: Restrict Server, Comp1 Comp2 on given speed. --256kbps---|eth0(203.145.134.112/255.255.255.252) [A] |eth1(Server room) 56kbps (203.145.134.120/255.255.255.248) [B] |eth2(Company2) 80kbps (203.145.134.116/255.255.255.252) [C] (192.168.100.0/255.255.255.0) |eth3(Company1) 120kbps(192.168.200.0/255.255.255.0) [D] - - Now in /etc/sysconfig/htb directory, I have put following files. eth0 DEFAULT=30 R2Q=10 eth0-2.root # root class containing total bandwidth RATE=128kbps BURST=15k eth0-2:1.comp1 # default class for Company1 traffic RATE=120Kbps BURST=15k PRIO=0 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.200.0/24 eth0-2:2.comp2 # default class for Company2 traffic RATE=80Kbps BURST=10k PRIO=1 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.100.0/24 eth0-2:1.server # default class for Server Room traffic RATE=56Kbps BURST=10k PRIO=3 LEAF=sfq RULE=203.145.134.120/29 -- eth1-2:3.root # root class For Server Room containing total bandwidth RATE=56kbps BURST=5k eth1-2:3:30.all # class for Server Room traffic RATE=56Kbps BURST=5k PRIO=3 LEAF=sfq RULE=203.145.134.120/29 MARK=3 -- eth2-2:2.root # root class For Company2 containing total bandwidth RATE=80kbps BURST=8k eth2-2:2:20.all # class for outgoing Company2 traffic RATE=80Kbps BURST=8k PRIO=1 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.100.0/24 MARK=2 -- eth3-2:1.root # root class For Company1 containing total bandwidth RATE=120kbps BURST=15k eth3-2:1:10.all # class for outgoing Company1 traffic RATE=120Kbps BURST=15k PRIO=0 LEAF=sfq RULE=192.168.200.0/24 MARK=1 - - - Original Message - From: Ashwin Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Sandeep Agarwal' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:13 AM Subject: RE: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !! First look for the following files in /lib/modules/2.4.20-8/kernel/net/sched sch_htb.o sch_sfq.o cls_fw.o cls_u32.o cls_route.o if these files exist then great you can go directly to HTB config below. Else you will have to compile these. To compile do as follows 1) bash# cd /usr/src/linux-2.4 2) bash# make menuconfig 3) Go to Networking options --- press Enter 4) Go to QoS and/or fair queueing --- press Enter 5) Select * for QoS and/or fair queueing, QoS support, Rate estimator, Packet classifier API and Traffic Policing 6) Select M for HTB packet scheduler, SFQ packet scheduler and all the classifier entries. 7) Compile the kernel bash# make dep clean bzImage modules modules_install (that was one long command) 8) Install the new kernel in boot. Run lilo/grub 9) reboot HTB config Download htb.init and the sample config files from sourceforge Copy htb.init to /etc/init.d Copy sample files to /etc/sysconfig/htb Read the htb.init file to learn how to configure the sample files. It's pretty simple. And Viola! You are done. Best of luck Best regards, Ashwin Shah -Original Message- From: Sandeep Agarwal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Linux-Delhi mailing list' Subject: Re: [ilugd] Re: Suggestion required on CBQ !! Hello
L10n was [ Re: [ilugd] Re: ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)]
- Original Message - From: Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the other hand I have a feeling that localization has more to do with the desktop. Not really - L10n is specifically aimed at enterprise class deployments through G2C interfaces -SM ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, vivek khurana wrote: Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 03:47:48 -0800 (PST) From: vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ilugd] ILUGD April Meeting (summing up) --- Tarun Dua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3. Speakers who volunteered till now: 1. Vivek Khurana: Explaining Debian to Redhat Diehards Won't make a sense if the theme is Linux desktop world. I will be concentrating on structural differences and it has nothing to do with desktop(count me as stand by and out-standing speaker in this case) Can any one volunteer to speak on debian server with woody and also debian installation. 5. Suggested Theme: Linux Desktop power tools (This would encompass localization as well) As I had posted earlier, I can volunteer to speak on Debian. I would repeat again. I'm ready to speak on: a) Debian and it's Philosophy. b) Structure of Debian and differences from RedHat. c) Latest Development going on in Debian. d) Key features/merits of Debian. rrs I would say that lets keep this meet focused on Debian and we can incorporate the rest speakers in next meet whose theme i suggesting in following lines. PS: Time to start planning the May,June Meets as well May: Time for NEWBIES MEET. This can incorporate Ankur rohtagi's desktop fun elements and Nirendra's localization regards VK = Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Ritesh Raj Sarraf Email: rrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] researchut.com Web: http://www.researchut.com Phone: +91-9899655651 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFAavej4Rhi6gTxMLwRApLQAKC12UYECrkXZzveVxRBDFGkfsKooACfWYLO yzDgqApJDL8QEbuq3sVdgNQ= =vl4x -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 17:14, vivek khurana wrote: --- Pankaj Dekate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, present in any linux distributions.I would indeed stress on day to day utilities and documentation which are much needed.Lify cd's should come up with new libraries and the accompanying dependencies.Otherwise there is no point in coming up with a library which has a dependency on a newer version of other library which is not included with lify cd. Now this is a good idea. can you make a list of newer libs along with dependencies and post it to list. Any way all the tools will carry the latest versions of the softwares which will certainly be newer than the ones provided with a distro. Bugzilla and Doxygen are also a good choice. QMail will also be a good choice in mail server category. Is qmail a development tool Just check the line above your question.I mentioned mail servers.So i guess a mail server isn't a development tool. IBM Websphere will be a good choice in the application server category. Websphere is a proprietory product. Please do't post proprietory products. Sorry for posting a proprietory product.I should have suggested Jrun or JBoss. But i thought since websphere is most widely used than JBoss it would help most of the people to try hands on linux for java development for J2EE. Regards VK You can include memprof,valgrind in the development category. If you are including Kdevelop3.0 and above then I suggest you also include dot program from www.graphviz.org .This program is needed by Kdevelop3.0 and above.Although it will work without dot the developers would miss the graphical class browser functionality in kdevelop. = Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD
the cds must always carry the 'BIG BLOBS' that people can't usually download. these include the latest versions of: 1) libraries. libraries. libraries: 2) QT 3) KDE 4) GNOME 5) Mozilla 6) Evolution (is that possible?) 7) OpenOfficex.x. in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people don't think about, like: 1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice, xmms, GDM, gimp, etc. 2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists in india to submit their classical indian music for instance, as ogg vorbis files, under a creativecommons license, to be distributed on these cds. ditto with photographs, videos, etc. also, i hope LiFY and LFY don't become delhi-mailing list centric. hope they have posted their request for suggestions to major mailing lists across india, and/or to the linux india mailing list as well. :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Hell of dependencies
Yashpal Nagar wrote: Hey dudes! Please don't tell me apt-get on debian...i know thats better, But i am using redhat based system with apt-get... have you tried using yum ? It is really good. A bit of a pain to configure and get going but good. Anyways, try searching at http://rpm.pbone.net/ for your missing file. PS: I need one package containing libgdome.so.0 library to have ntop on one of my server. IIRC there was a utility called iptraf which I found better than the ntop package. You may want to try that too, though your mileage may vary. -- / \__ (@\___Raj Shekhar / O My home : http://geocities.com/lunatech3007/ / (_/My blog : http://lunatech.journalspace.com/ /_/ U ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re: Minutes of ILUGD March 28, 2004 meeting
Tarun Dua wrote: I propose that we name Raj Shekhar as official MOM keeper for subsequent ILUGD meets. Thanks for the kind words LL and Tarun. Will keep the minutes from the next meet :-) -- / \__ (@\___Raj Shekhar / O My home : http://geocities.com/lunatech3007/ / (_/My blog : http://lunatech.journalspace.com/ /_/ U ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re:Lify CDs
hi, I am desparately looking for a linux distribution for a Dec Alpha Station 255 @233 Mhz. I would appreciate it if LFY could include one such thingy in their next issue. The downside is that i might be the only guy who buys that issue! = catch ya later (Ive gotta UnWire Life!!!) shiv __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Re:Lify CDs
I am desparately looking for a linux distribution for a Dec Alpha Station 255 @233 Mhz. I would appreciate You can download Debian for the Alpha architecture: http://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-cd/images/3.0_r2/alpha/ I've heard of some earlier releases of Debian stalling on Alpha boxes, but I think 3.0r2 should be okay -- might want to Google for details. See the following URL as well: http://www.alphalinux.org/intro/ Regards, Avinesh ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Next Meet (Suggestion)
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:10:34 -0800 (PST), vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --- LinuxLingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i like vivek's idea of a debian-based meet, with somethings for newbies with those topixs, and some stuff for techies. what do you guys say? I am ready to speak on how different is debian services from redhat and ready to give a demo of configuration of some services on debian. That will be great, how different is debian from redhat. Even I'm planning to move out of the LaalTopi domain. We can show knoppix as an introduction to debian. Let debian be the introduction to knoppix. Regards VK regards, vijay. -- Vijay Raghavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Send your email first class ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] The ILUGD Developers list (ILUGD-Dev)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The ILUGD Developers list (ILUGD-Dev) is for discussing technical issues relating to programming using FLOSS (Free/Libre and Open Source Software). This mailing list is programming language agnostic (i.e. you can discuss problems in any language - C, C++, C#, Java, Perl/PHP/Python, shell etc.) This list is the right place to discuss: ~ 1. Design and Programming concepts ~ 2. Language flamefests ..err.. discussions ;) ~ 3. Programming tools like compilers, debuggers While you can go ahead and discuss any programming concepts and tools that you want, it would be really appreciated if discussions are in the spirit of the FLOSS movement that ILUGD is all about. In other words discussion on free tools and libraries over proprietary ones would be preferred. The primary aim of having a local developers mailing list is to organize programmers interactions at a local (i.e. city/NCR) level, and to organize developers oriented content for LUG meetings. Subscribe to the list at http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd-dev A big thanks to SRS for hosting the mailing list on his server. - - Sandip - -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAaxUQsaEigKEpD/MRAqhnAKCAxjMPNKoeXQqH6FKI51EO1oOPiACfTCCt svh2C55SeuU+yF6Ed/s+cbU= =kh19 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Fwd: Squid: The Definitive Guide
Original Message Subject: Squid: The Definitive Guide Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 10:59:00 -0800 From: O'Reilly Assoc. Squid: The Definitive Guide, by Squid creator Duane Wessels, draws together complete details on installing, configuring, and running Squid. Newcomers to Squid will learn how to download, compile, and install code. Seasoned users of Squid will be interested in the chapters that tackle advanced topics such as high-performance storage options, rewriting requests, HTTP server acceleration, monitoring, debugging, and troubleshooting Squid. A comprehensive guide to all aspects of web caching with Squid, the book covers the following topics in detail: -Compiling and installing Squid -Running Squid -Using Squid's sophisticated access controls -Tuning disk storage for optimal performance -Configuring your operating system for HTTP interception -Forwarding requests to other web caches -Using redirectors to rewrite user requests -Monitoring Squid with the cache manager and SNMP -Using Squid to accelerate and protect HTTP servers -Managing bandwidth consumption with Delay Pools Considered long overdue by network and sys admins, Squid: The Definitive Guide provides much-needed help to those tasked with setting up and maintaining one or more Squid caches. To order your copy or for more information, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/squid/ or call 1-800-998-9938 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Squid: The Definitive Guide Duane Wessels ISBN: 0-596-00162-2 464 pages, $44.95 US, $65.95 CA http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/squid/ -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Hell of dependencies
Hey dudes! I Strucked, I need to install one rpm package, why it says it need this .so.0 library instead of saying that This require x rpm/deb to be installed. obviously it should expect one package while installing for dependencies ...then why it ask for SEPARATE library??? Please don't tell me apt-get on debian...i know thats better, But i am using redhat based system with apt-get... can apt tell me what package need to be install to have a particular dll ? How/where i can look for libraries which can tell this is contained with this package? Regards, Yash PS: I need one package containing libgdome.so.0 library to have ntop on one of my server. ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Gentoo
arrey! seems like gentoo is the answer to quite a few problems. check out www.gentoo.org this is a new distro that they call a 'meta distribution' as it can be made to fit you, rather than cutting you to fit it, as with other distros. :-) since people are actively looking at life beyond redhat (fedora, debian, knoppix, x) could someone who is using and experienced with gentoo please give us a gentle introduction to gentoo at the next meet, right after the debian talk? would make the meeting quite interesting. mary, you have gentoo and seem to be using it. could you volunteer please? :-) LL ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Gentoo
To summarize the heart of Gentoo, imagine a user sitting in front of a Linux system. What does he or she want do to? The Gentoo philosophy is to allow this user to do what he or she wants to do, without getting in the way... Portage will keep your Gentoo Linux system as up-to-date as you desire. And because of this, experienced Gentoo users don't pay too much attention to new versions of Gentoo Linux -- after all, the latest and greatest version of Gentoo Linux is always available by typing an emerge sync command. There's no need to wait several months for a new version of Gentoo Linux to be released because Gentoo Linux is continually updated and refined and these improvements are immediately made available to you... #Support for x86, PowerPC, UltraSparc, Alpha and MIPS processors #LiveCD-based installation for x86, PowerPC, UltraSparc and Alpha #Latest stable KDE and GNOME #Various optimized Linux kernels #Very modern GNU development environment #Excellent filesystem support: ReiserFS, XFS, ext3, EVMS, LVM #Excellent hardware support: NVIDIA, Creative Labs Live! and Audigy #Modular OpenGL and compiler sub-system (supports multiple co-existing versions) #Clean, dependency-based system initialization scripts #New hardened Gentoo security initiative #6000+ packages of the latest and greatest software #Enhanced Portage capabilities Great Yaar! Awesome for both -- newbie and Gurus. HATS OFF for Daniel Robbins (Chief Architect) How much time will it take to come into the race? ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD
--- linuxlingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the cds must always carry the 'BIG BLOBS' that people can't usually download. these include the latest versions of: 1) libraries. libraries. libraries: 2) QT 3) KDE 4) GNOME 5) Mozilla 6) Evolution (is that possible?) 7) OpenOfficex.x. in addition, the cds must also carry stuff people don't think about, like: 1) templates, clip-art, themes, for openoffice, xmms, GDM, gimp, etc. 2) loads of muft and mukt music. encourage artists in india to submit their classical indian music for instance, as ogg vorbis files, under a creativecommons license, to be distributed on these cds. ditto with photographs, videos, etc. LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although this itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and mukt music. You can get in touch with Lify for this, wait a minute you are already in touch with them. also, i hope LiFY and LFY don't become delhi-mailing list centric. hope they have posted their request for suggestions to major mailing lists across india, and/or to the linux india mailing list as well. I had posted it to LIP as it tries to be be a developers list. Regards VK = Disclamer The facts expressed here belong to everybody, the opinions to me. The distinction is yours to draw... __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: ILUGD April Meeting (summing up)
Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: As I had posted earlier, I can volunteer to speak on Debian. I would repeat again. I'm ready to speak on: a) Debian and it's Philosophy. b) Structure of Debian and differences from RedHat. c) Latest Development going on in Debian. d) Key features/merits of Debian. Lets have a Debian, Localization(and Desktop) meet then!!! Since no one has actually volunteered to talk about the desktop yet. The following speakers have volunteered to talk. 1. VK (Debian) : A guide to debian installation/setup 2. RRS: Debian philosophy,latest developments and key features. 3. NA: Localization We still need a speaker for the introductory talk and standby speakers. -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [ilugd] Gentoo
As a developer who is trying to get juice out of the system gentoo seems very attractive. But one problem I faced is lack of eco-system around the distribution. I would like to see people making binary gentoo packages and exchanging them. I do'nt see any other way to install system in two hours. When I tried it took me 3 days to get and compile all the packages that I needed. And I am not of kind who would try too much stuff anymore. I can list all the stuff I need in one line. galeon, evolution, development tools, gaim, xfce, emacs, some other support utils. Time period required to compile major part of the packages are given below. This I am reporting for a PII with 192 MB RAM XFree86 6 hours Mozilla 5 hours evolution and support tools like bonobo, gnome etc 5 hours linux kernel 45 minutes xfce - 20 minutes glibc - 4 hours Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] (fwd) [RHSA-2004:137-01] Updated Ethereal packages fix security issues
[Please upgrade if you use Ethereal on any distribution. This is a new bug, not to be confused with the one reported toward the end of 2003 -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) -- Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [RHSA-2004:137-01] Updated Ethereal packages fix security issues Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 03:39 -0500 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - - Red Hat Security Advisory Synopsis: Updated Ethereal packages fix security issues Advisory ID: RHSA-2004:137-01 Issue date:2004-03-31 Updated on:2004-03-31 Product: Red Hat Linux Keywords: Cross references: Obsoletes: RHSA-2004:001 CVE Names: CAN-2004-0176 CAN-2004-0365 CAN-2004-0367 - - 1. Topic: Updated Ethereal packages that fix various security vulnerabilities are now available. 2. Relevant releases/architectures: Red Hat Linux 9 - i386 3. Problem description: Ethereal is a program for monitoring network traffic. Stefan Esser reported that Ethereal versions 0.10.1 and earlier contain stack overflows in the IGRP, PGM, Metflow, ISUP, TCAP, or IGAP dissectors. On a system where Ethereal is being run a remote attacker could send malicious packets that could cause Ethereal to crash or execute arbitrary code. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has assigned the name CAN-2004-0176 to this issue. Jonathan Heussser discovered that a carefully-crafted RADIUS packet could cause a crash. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has assigned the name CAN-2004-0365 to this issue. Ethereal 0.8.13 to 0.10.2 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (crash) via a zero-length Presentation protocol selector. The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures project (cve.mitre.org) has assigned the name CAN-2004-0367 to this issue. Users of Ethereal should upgrade to these updated packages, which contain a version of Ethereal that is not vulnerable to these issues. 4. Solution: Before applying this update, make sure all previously released errata relevant to your system have been applied. Please note that this update is available via Red Hat Network. To use Red Hat Network, launch the Red Hat Update Agent with the following command: up2date This will start an interactive process that will result in the appropriate RPMs being upgraded on your system. 5. RPMs required: Red Hat Linux 9: SRPMS: ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/SRPMS/ethereal-0.10.3-0.90.1.src.rpm i386: ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/i386/ethereal-0.10.3-0.90.1.i386.rpm ftp://updates.redhat.com/9/en/os/i386/ethereal-gnome-0.10.3-0.90.1.i386.rpm 6. Verification: MD5 sum Package Name - -- 50c70de14c55d5176ec163545cc49c25 9/en/os/SRPMS/ethereal-0.10.3-0.90.1.src.rpm 48670725bb0b0cd1370fa2819ac69360 9/en/os/i386/ethereal-0.10.3-0.90.1.i386.rpm 6aec3561d6598dd3af9e2e037aa41eee 9/en/os/i386/ethereal-gnome-0.10.3-0.90.1.i386.rpm These packages are GPG signed by Red Hat for security. Our key is available from https://www.redhat.com/security/team/key.html You can verify each package with the following command: rpm --checksig -v filename If you only wish to verify that each package has not been corrupted or tampered with, examine only the md5sum with the following command: md5sum filename 7. References: http://www.ethereal.com/appnotes/enpa-sa-00013.html http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2004-0176 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2004-0365 http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2004-0367 8. Contact: The Red Hat security contact is [EMAIL PROTECTED]. More contact details at https://www.redhat.com/security/team/contact.html Copyright 2004 Red Hat, Inc. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAaoOoXlSAg2UNWIIRAp06AJ9NtE7QIAhaZ1FiYO8WmWHzgL3PVwCfSVhE A3yCUzqhEYRkjMf7yRvCj7I= =T5vg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- End of this Digest ** -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Gentoo
Supreet Sethi wrote: When I tried it took me 3 days to get and compile all the packages that I needed. I was told there is another problem with Gentoo. It tries to use all sorts of tested/un-tested compile time switches when it compiles which doesn't always result in an optimized system as is desired. What was your experience with the gentoo install Supreet, is it worth the time and effort. -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Squid: The Definitive Guide
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: To order your copy or for more information, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/squid/ or call 1-800-998-9938 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have read the sample chapters and a few articles written by the author. I am eagerly waiting for the book. Any idea where I would be able to get it in Delhi? I have asked about it a few time in Galgotia book store at Noida but they did not have idea. -- / \__ (@\___Raj Shekhar / O My home : http://geocities.com/lunatech3007/ / (_/My blog : http://lunatech.journalspace.com/ /_/ U ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Suggestion for Lify CD
Vivek == vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vivek [snip] Vivek LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although this Vivek itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and mukt Vivek music. You can get in touch with Lify for this, wait a Vivek minute you are already in touch with them. Great idea! You can have a WHOLE CD of me singing for muft and mukt! Now doesn't that make you happy? -- Raju -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Transparent SMTP proxy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A client is running NAT on a Linux box for his bandwidth customers. Now he needs to be able to catch spam and virus e-mails at the NAT gateway itself. Is there any way to transparently redirect outgoing SMTP into a local Sendmail (preferred) or other mail server for the Milter-type stuff? Would a simple REDIRECT into a locally-running Sendmail do the trick? Reason I ask is because it doesn't work with Squid for port 80 -- you have to explicitly tell Squid it's acting as a transparent proxy. Thanks, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFAa6NQyWjQ78xo0X8RArZuAJwLBi9P9r+EWbzl789zWzxLk8NCGQCbBUcP +qjeU6XGlRYwwfRXggAdasg= =yITZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Transparent SMTP proxy
At 2004-04-01 10:36:30 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would a simple REDIRECT into a locally-running Sendmail do the trick? Reason I ask is because it doesn't work with Squid for port 80 -- you have to explicitly tell Squid it's acting as a transparent proxy. Likewise, you will need to set up your MTA to relay for your internal network, but after that, just REDIRECTing the relevant traffic should work fine. -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Squid: The Definitive Guide
Raj Shekhar wrote: Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: To order your copy or for more information, see: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/squid/ or call 1-800-998-9938 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have read the sample chapters and a few articles written by the author. I am eagerly waiting for the book. Any idea where I would be able to get it in Delhi? I have asked about it a few time in Galgotia book store at Noida but they did not have idea. Maybe you should check shroffpublishers.com to see if a reprint is being made. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [ilugd] Transparent SMTP proxy
Raj Mathur wrote: Would a simple REDIRECT into a locally-running Sendmail do the trick? Reason I ask is because it doesn't work with Squid for port 80 -- you have to explicitly tell Squid it's acting as a transparent proxy. That is because while using an explicit proxy a HTTP browser behaves differently (sends the complete URL to retrieve) than when it connects directly to the origin server (sends a relative URI to retrieve). I think a simple redirect to the local sendmail should work. Apparently quite a few of these ISP management software is based on this. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] [Canada] Online music swapping legal: court
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 W00t! I hope lots more countries follow this example -- Raju Online music swapping legal: court Last Updated Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:45:24 TORONTO - Individuals who share personal copies of music files on the internet are safe after a Federal Court rejected a motion on Wednesday that would have allowed the music industry to sue them. Justice Konrad von Finckenstein said the Canadian Recording Industry Association hadn't shown copyright infringement by 29 people who had allowed their music files to be uploaded. Making files available in online, shared directories is within the bounds of Canadian copyright law, von Finckenstein ruled. Full story at: http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/03/31/canada/download_court040331 - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFAa6jfyWjQ78xo0X8RAldsAJ9Ca2PpP3Y7YRL8g+tZzCaBFd2TuACbBdFk NoTATya6op3cLGgOBp5o9X8= =qKgr -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] [Fwd: [K12OSN] OO 1.1.1 faster with remote xserver]
For those using OpenOffice this post from another list is worth the read. Many bug fixes reported. -- Sudev Barar Learning Linux ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: Suggestion for Lify CD
vivek khurana wrote: LL how come muft music a development tool??? Although this itself can be a good idea to have cd of muft and mukt music. You can get in touch with Lify for this, wait a minute you are already in touch with them. I have always thought of muft music to be a good development tool ;-) -Tarun ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [LIH]Re: [ilugd] Hell of dependencies
Hi All, Thanks for updating , finally i got ntop working. http://rpm.pbone.net is really nice better than rpmfind.net No flame war PLS Downloaded both gdome2 ntop compiled for Redhat 9, voilla workingcool Thanks again to all. Regards, Yash Sthitaprajna wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:50:32 +0530, Raj Shekhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Please don't tell me apt-get on debian...i know thats better, But i am using redhat based system with apt-get... apt-get on Redhat does'nt have the show option? IIRC there was a utility called iptraf which I found better than the ntop package. You may want to try that too, though your mileage may vary. ntop does more than iptraf. but a long way. closest to ntop is darkstat. anyway, each tool to itself. -- cheers ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Fwd: EFFector 17.11: EFF Opposes RFIDs in Passports
Original Message Subject: EFFector 17.11: EFF Opposes RFIDs in Passports Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 22:25:34 -0800 (PST) From: Effector List EFFectorVol. 17, No. 11March 31, 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Publication of the Electronic Frontier Foundation ISSN 1062-9424 In the 283rd Issue of EFFector: * EFF Opposes Radio Tracking Technology, Biometrics in Passports * Let the Sun Set on PATRIOT - Sections 201 and 805 * EFF's Deep Links - The Weblog * MiniLinks (16): Canada's Copyright Revolution: As Good As It Gets * Staff Calendar: 04.06.04 - Fred von Lohmann speaks at Columbia University Law School, New York, NY * Administrivia For more information on EFF activities alerts: http://www.eff.org/ To join EFF or make an additional donation: https://secure.eff.org/ EFF is a member-supported nonprofit. Please sign up as a member today! : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . : . EFF Opposes Radio Tracking Technology, Biometrics in Passports EFF joined Privacy International, the ACLU and other civil liberties organizations from all around the world this week in opposing a plan to embed radio frequency identification tags (RFIDs) in passports. The new passport standard, developed on behalf of world governments by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), would also include biometric identifiers such as facial maps, and, potentially, fingerprints. Supported by the U.S and E.U. governments, the standard would ultimately create an electronic ID system on hundreds of millions of travelers. Despite serious implications for privacy and personal security, the ICAO process is occurring without public engagement or debate. In January 2004, when the U.S. began fingerprinting and face- scanning foreign visitors and storing this data for over 50 years under the US-VISIT program, many countries responded with alarm, said Dr. Gus Hosein, a senior fellow with Privacy International. With the biometric passport, however, every country may have its own surveillance system, accumulating fingerprints and face-scans and keeping them for as long as they wish with no regard to privacy or civil liberties. EFF signed an open letter asking the ICAO to reject the new standard unless or until the organization: * Follows through on earlier promises to review the privacy implications of biometrics and trans-border personal information transfers; * Releases clear and binding privacy requirements that will reduce the risks of illegal collection, use, retention and transfers of this information; * Upholds national data protection laws or cultural practices, as previously promised; * Prevents, by design or biometric selection, the development of biometric databases; and * Evaluates fully the standard's privacy and surveillance implications, as well as explores alternatives with less potential for privacy invasion or other abuse by surveillance agencies. Open letter to the ICAO: http://www.eff.org/cgi/tiny?urlID=163 (Privacy International; PDF) Privacy International media release: http://www.eff.org/cgi/tiny?urlID=162 (Privacy International) More information about RFIDs: http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/RFID/ -- Sandip Bhattacharya sandip (at) puroga.com Puroga Technologies Pvt. Ltd. Work: http://www.puroga.comHome: http://www.sandipb.net GPG: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[ilugd] Re: [LIH]Hell of dependencies
Binand Sethumadhavan wrote: All that is utter BS. Locating packages is not even required, you just have to run up2date foo and it upgrades foo and ALL its dependencies bar and baz. Corruption of RPM database is yet to happen to me, and I'd blame poor sysadmining for it. And I am yet to see broken RPM dependencies within Redhat shipped packages. Redhat is certainly not responsible for the two-bit packagers distributing badly packaged software. How exactly is debian better? If I distribute fubar.deb without its dependency baz.deb, debian will also refuse to install it. Debian may not be the most bleeding edge (at least if you go for stable), but: - there's a really good response time for patching security problems. - apt/dselect make management simple. - I like the /etc/init.d scripts for all major services rather than dealing with rc.local type stuff. - a lot of very committed packagers, and people who are willing to be helpful. - apt upgrade (ok, that may be redundant). - it's a distro of idealists. This can be a plus or a minus, depending on your viewpoint. Either way, the Debian people are passionate about doing things according to a plan. I know many people who use Debain for its breeze of upgradations...aka aptitude _only_. Regards, Yash There might be other (perfectly valid) reasons to install Debian on production servers, but the one you are giving is just FUD in my opinion. There is no compiled lib for Redhat , even tried rpm of Mandrake distribution...that give me another set of dependencies. Redhat doesn't ship with ntop - so what. It probably has its own reasons. Debian also doesn't ship with a whole lot of stuff. Binand ___ ilugd mailinglist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
