Re: [ilugd] Societification update

2005-04-07 Thread Amit Goel
Raj Mathur wrote:

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Viksit == Viksit Gaur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Viksit Greetings!
 2. India, Delhi and acronyms in the name are not permitted.
 Currently the best we can do is ``Linux Users Group''.

Viksit Hmm.. Are society names valid across the country? If we do
Viksit register something like Linux Users Group, without a more
Viksit specific name, its likely to infringe on practically all
Viksit the others in the country - and we aren't going to be very
Viksit popular after that :)

I brought that point up with the CA who's handling the registration
and he did clarify that the society would be registered in Delhi
only.  So other states can have their own Linux Users Groups.
  

Hi Raj

Although, Linux User Group will be registered in Delhi only, but no
other society in any part of India can be registered with the same name.
Thus other states can not have another society with the same name.

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Re: [ilugd] Societification update

2005-04-07 Thread Ankit Malik
 
 Although, Linux User Group will be registered in Delhi only, but no
 other society in any part of India can be registered with the same name.
 Thus other states can not have another society with the same name.
 
 
how about Delinux Group?

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Re: [ilugd] Societification update

2005-04-07 Thread Ankur Rohatgi
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On 04/06/2005 11:16 PM, Raj Mathur wrote:

| 2. India, Delhi and acronyms in the name are not permitted.  Currently
| the best we can do is ``Linux Users Group''.  There may be special
| circumstances under which we could get ``India Linux User Group,
| Delhi'' or ``ILUG-Delhi''.  We're investigating the nature of those
| circumstances and whether we can get them to apply or not :) but don't
| get your hopes up.  As it stands, expect to see the group named
| ``Linux Users Group''.

Can we get something like Linux Users Group IN-DEL as a name ? So we
dont mess it up for the other LUGs in the country. Its also a
possibility that someone else may have already registered Linux Users
Group .

- - Ankur.

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Re: [ilugd] Creative commons or FDL?

2005-04-07 Thread Linux Lingam
On Apr 6, 2005 7:30 PM, Sandip Bhattacharya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Works like books, documentation, fonts etc. can be offered either under
 GPL/FDL or Creative Commons.
 
 I wanted your advice on this - if someone offers to release fonts, would
 you prefer it to be under CC or under GPL?

fonts are best released as LGPL. thus, they can be used in embedded
systems as well. for instance the symbian os uses opentype fonts, but
the fonts are usually in firmware and others can be loaded in ram as
well. LGPL also makes it legal for you to embed fonts in a pdf even if
the pdf is not itself under a gpl or similar license. pdf under gpl,
you ask? well, someone has to one day discuss that given the scripting
through javascript, and even programming through extensions etc., you
can bring into a pdf document, is a pdf file a simple data file, or is
it a program, which is 'interpreted' by a pdf reader. while we waste
endless time on this discussion, stick to lgpl for the fonts at least.


i also feel fonts could do with a dual-license. with a creativecommons
license attached to it AS WELL. but this has to be sorted out.

 
 What about books? Many people are releasing them under either FDL or CC.
 How would you take a decision in this case?

i have hemmed and hawed at this for months. the FDL has its problems.
even the verbatim is no good, because it does not allow someone to
quote a significant portion in another text. the creativecommons
licenses also fall short of what you 'perceive' should be a fee book,
or a manual. please treat the two as different entities.

fortunately, creativecommons have started a discussion on several
possible license.

the issue of a special license for a developing country also makes
sense, and creativecommons is doing that too.
 
 Personally, I find CC licences to be more flexible, and more to the
 point about its purpose. What do you think?

CC comes in many flavours, so you can custom-fit a license. still it
side-steps issues of controlling on your sentiments. example: 'can a
photo you clicked of mother teresa, be used for an offending poster
which is ironically also published under the same exact CC
license...?'
 
 I am trying to build up a case in asking certain organizations to
 release some of their work to the commons. While I have zeroed in on CC
 licences, I would like to know more about arguments of the other side.

the fdl also has its plus points btw.
interestingly, almost all the licenses never talk about translations.
besides, who gets authorship of the translation, under what license?

in a better world, we would publish everything under the public domain
license. dead authors and dead poets, who have been dead for a helluva
long time, are quite popular due to this reason. living authors and
poets have to figure out how to eke out a living, unless they are
monstrously popular despite being alive.

but then in a better world, there would be no written languages in the
first place, and no need for books and manuals.

and certainly no need for you and me, either.

:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] Linux training

2005-04-07 Thread mano Howladar
Hi Vikramda,

My wife is currently attending Linux training at CIT,
CP, opposite to Narula resturant. She said it is going
quite well. Today is 4th day of the training. If you
require full report wait till the end of the month. My
mobile 9891409150.

Manotosh Howladar

--- Vikram Mandal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi List,
 
 I am looking for some Linux training center/people
 preferably in south 
 Delhi.
 
 Areas to cover are:
 Linux Admin / networking
 Firewall setup
 Proxy
 Symlinks etc.
 
 Would appreciate some quick info.
 
 Thanks
 Vikram. 
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] Linux training

2005-04-07 Thread Arhant Jain
Hi vivek,

just tell abt the books and how to install linux on the machine having WIN98 in 
dos partition and leaving the non dos partition for linux.

Regards
Arhant Jain  


On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 vivek khurana wrote :
hey Vikram,


  I am looking for some Linux training center/people
  preferably in south
  Delhi.
 
  Areas to cover are:
  Linux Admin / networking
  Firewall setup
  Proxy
  Symlinks etc.
 
  Would appreciate some quick info.
 

  Why dont you start it all by yourself. All you need
are
1) A linux machine
2) Internet connection
3) Some book on linux
4) Documentation for the respective software.

  Softwares such as squid, samba, iptables etc have
very good documentations.

  Youcan always ask your queries on this list or at IRC
channels.
  It might be difficult in the starting with very
limited or no success but you will start picking
depending o
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[ilugd] [OT] Dell Desktop

2005-04-07 Thread Mithun Bhattacharya
Does anyone have any experience running Linux on the new DELL Desktop's
more specifically GX280. Any thoughts on customer support - do they at
all acknowledge the existance of Linux or would they make me install
Windows to test their hardware in case of any issues ?



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Re: [ilugd] Linux training

2005-04-07 Thread Arshad Siddiqui
On 7 Apr 2005 17:34:58 -, Arhant Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 just tell abt the books and how to install linux on the machine having WIN98
 in dos partition and leaving the non dos partition for linux.

Get PC Quest magazine, latest edition,
they are giving PC Quest 2005 on CD and you will get installation
instruction in the magazine itself.

Or you may use these links for Red Hat installation -
For recommended partitioning scheme refer...
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/s1-diskpartitioning.html#S2-DISKPARTRECOMMEND

and the complete install guide is available at:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/

Its as simple as switching to CD-ROM from BIOS
as your first boot device.
restarting the PC, with the first installation CD in.

Rest it will do on your own, 
you need to take care while setting up partition.

Arshad.

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Re: [ilugd] Linux training

2005-04-07 Thread Vikram Mandal
Thank you Arshad, Vivek, Manotosh and others for the thoughts.

Vivek, I am looking for some quick crash courses to get to start ASAP, rest 
of the details I can find from books, lists.

Manotosh thanks for your number, I give you a call soon. Meanwhile can 
please mail me the phone number of institute.

I would still appreciate recommendation of any other Linux institute.


Thanks,
Vikram.

- Original Message - 
 Get PC Quest magazine, latest edition,
 they are giving PC Quest 2005 on CD and you will get installation
 instruction in the magazine itself.

 Or you may use these links for Red Hat installation -
 For recommended partitioning scheme refer...
 http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/s1-diskpartitioning.html#S2-DISKPARTRECOMMEND

 and the complete install guide is available at:
 http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/install-guide/

 Its as simple as switching to CD-ROM from BIOS
 as your first boot device.
 restarting the PC, with the first installation CD in.

 Arshad.

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