Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 10:58, Raj Mathur wrote: Hassath Also, how about adding a link to the HOW TO ENCOURAGE Hassath WOMEN IN LINUX which I sent in my earlier posting? At Hassath least that might indicate to members that the list has at Hassath least thought about making things woman-friendly. Can do. Thanks, much appreciated. There isn't much there that applies to a group as a whole -- it's mostly what individuals can do to encourage women to feel comfortable and participate. Apart from the ``Keep meeting is an accessible location'', there's nothing there that the LUG as a whole can do. The attitude of the individual members of the group will make a difference. Anyway, whether as individuals, or as a group- if those suggestions were followed- they would go a long way. And to begin with, if more people would read the HOW TO, it would help. Hassath ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
1. If you reall want a woman in here f**king stop treating them like woman and treat them like other human beings. 2. If Women really think this is helping please look back, it only makes us think you want special treatment THE most sensible post on the thread! Stop asking for 'special treatment' and start behaving normally. Nnow, please, don't go off on a tangent with the argument that 'normal' behaviour is too manly and woman unfriendly, etc. etc. Men women have differences which should be resepected. Move on. Start turning up for meetings. Things will change automagically. Btw - I attended only one ILUG-d meet @ Sarai. That was about 4-5 years back. Have not been able to attend any meeting since then... is this group Saurabh Nanda unfriendly? Probably I should write a HOWTO on how to make Linux Users Group Saurabh Nanda friendly! Did you find that joke offensive? (PS: On second thoughts it's a bad joke... real bad :-p) There's only one 'feminist' I've met in my entire life who's agreed to the fact that women ask for wy too much special treatment. She's fed up of it herself. That's exactly what's happening here. (PS: http://jayajha.blogspot.com) I've been on this list for some time now... and I just can't fathom what exactly it is that stops females from joining and participating in discussion on the *mailing list*! sheesh.. it's just a mailing list!! I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women unfriendly atmosphere there. Rant stops here... go back to work and be more productive. Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Manpreet == Manpreet Singh Nehra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manpreet Would You guys just drop this f**king thread. Manpreet [snip] Hey, if you don't like it don't read it! all people can't be interested in all things, and it's pretty simple to make out which posts belong to this thread and which don't. Regards, - -- Raju - -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iD8DBQFDDA4HyWjQ78xo0X8RAnbLAJ9ztOUs264moBiBAlNp4PB5woAEaACeOfzS Bp+xYDvIu2PR+5Kb63Ym/qI= =vpyq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 11:33, Saurabh Nanda wrote: snip Rant stops here... go back to work and be more productive. Nandz. Just proves people aren't actually reading the HOW TO. This mail, and the one it is responding to (Manpreet's) would be enough to keep women off the list- now I fully understand why no woman has responded to this thread. Evolution, education, civilisation- have got us nowhere... Hassath ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
Saurabh Nanda wrote: 1. If you reall want a woman in here f**king stop treating them like woman and treat them like other human beings. 2. If Women really think this is helping please look back, it only makes us think you want special treatment THE most sensible post on the thread! Sure - shows what attitudes you hold Stop asking for 'special treatment' and start behaving normally. Nnow, please, don't go off on a tangent with the argument that 'normal' behaviour is too manly and woman unfriendly, etc. etc. Men women have differences which should be resepected. Move on. Start turning up for meetings. Things will change automagically. Btw - I attended only one ILUG-d meet @ Sarai. That was about 4-5 years back. Have not been able to attend any meeting since then... is this group Saurabh Nanda unfriendly? Probably I should write a HOWTO on how to make Linux Users Group Saurabh Nanda friendly! Guess you do have a big ego ? Should not be too much of trouble for you Did you find that joke offensive? (PS: On second thoughts it's a bad joke... real bad :-p) There's only one 'feminist' I've met in my entire life who's agreed to the fact that women ask for wy too much special treatment. She's fed up of it herself. That's exactly what's happening here. (PS: http://jayajha.blogspot.com) One does not have to be a feminist to want to not be oppressed. I've been on this list for some time now... and I just can't fathom what exactly it is that stops females from joining and participating in discussion on the *mailing list*! sheesh.. it's just a mailing list!! If you have been reading the mails of this discussion then there is a how to meant specifically for people who can fathom, may be it will help you fathom whats happening again for you kind information kindly go to http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women unfriendly atmosphere there. So don't comment Rant stops here... go back to work and be more productive. Nandz. Sure - wonder if women around you in the wrok place feel comfortable ??? I am not a woman but I am not sure if I would be comfortable working with people with such insensitive and limited attitudes ram ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
At 2005-08-24 11:33:08 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Men women have differences which should be resepected. Move on. Move on is exactly what women are doing, and they don't seem any worse for it. Remember that we're having this discussion because someone asked specifically why women don't participate in LUG activities. Start turning up for meetings. Things will change automagically. Who cares? It's easier to just not turn up for the meetings at all. I've been doing that for years, and it's worked perfectly for me. (Oh, and please disabuse yourself of the notion that only women are put off by crass behaviour. There do exist men who don't think respectful behaviour is special treatment.) Did you find that joke offensive? What joke? I see only yet another attempt to trivialise a document you haven't read by invoking a contrived analogy. It's much more pathetic than offensive. I've been on this list for some time now... and I just can't fathom what exactly it is that stops females from joining and participating in discussion on the *mailing list*! You've been given multiple, highly-specific answers about what exactly it is that discourages women from participating in discussion. So far, apart from your attempt to make fun of them, there is no evidence that you have tried very hard to fathom anything. Might I suggest a remedial reading comprehension course? -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] yum install exits on no Public Key
/etc/yum.conf has a configuration parameter which allows you to make GPG check mandatory or not gpg_check I think HTH Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
again for you kind information kindly go to http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ Been there... read that. Not at all informative. The regular run-of-the-mill stuff! I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women unfriendly atmosphere there. So don't comment Dude - you're worse that me in nitpicking and starting flame wars. I suddenly feel better! Sure - wonder if women around you in the wrok place feel comfortable ??? I am not a woman but I am not sure if I would be comfortable working with people with such insensitive and limited attitudes Way too much extrapolation here. Just so that I don't get labelled an 'insensitive clod' - here goes: At my institude (college, university, whatever) - I tried initiating a LUG. Though the whole thing died within a couple of meets (the group was man *and* woman unfriendly, I guess, he he :-) I noticed something in the first meet. There were some men and women who had come to the first meet just for the heck of it... they wanted to see what's going on, etc. There was one girl, whom I knew, was interested in Linux, and was very enthusiastic in participating in the LUG. She didn't speak up in the first meet, nor in the second - even after being prompted/prodded to raise her opinion/voice. Then she stopped coming. What more does one need to do? Fall on our knees and beg to the females all around the world - PLEASE! Bless us with your benign presence and opinions... why can't they just behave normally rather than having special interest groups and movements, etc. etc. A LUG meet is not a godforsaken place where they're opressed, beaten up, harassed, sexually assaulted, etc. etc. Why the special treatment there? Just organize meets at earthly hours and places, so that females can make it (Delhi is not a nice place to go back late in the night!) Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
(Oh, and please disabuse yourself of the notion that only women are put off by crass behaviour. There do exist men who don't think respectful behaviour is special treatment.) Okay... brings me back to the point - other than making fun of them when they specifically ask for special treatment... what other kinds of disrespectful behaviour takes place on the mailing list? Instead of taking potshots at me, could you actually list out such disrespectful behaviour on the mailing list which causes such a less number of women to participate online? Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] eye for photography
Saurabh u do have an eye for photography. some really cool shots of ur Korean trip, and the moments are also caught well. above the regular stuff. great work. hope to get to see more. Nitin --- Saurabh Nanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: again for you kind information kindly go to http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ Been there... read that. Not at all informative. The regular run-of-the-mill stuff! I haven't been to recent meets... so I can't comment on the women unfriendly atmosphere there. So don't comment Dude - you're worse that me in nitpicking and starting flame wars. I suddenly feel better! Sure - wonder if women around you in the wrok place feel comfortable ??? I am not a woman but I am not sure if I would be comfortable working with people with such insensitive and limited attitudes Way too much extrapolation here. Just so that I don't get labelled an 'insensitive clod' - here goes: At my institude (college, university, whatever) - I tried initiating a LUG. Though the whole thing died within a couple of meets (the group was man *and* woman unfriendly, I guess, he he :-) I noticed something in the first meet. There were some men and women who had come to the first meet just for the heck of it... they wanted to see what's going on, etc. There was one girl, whom I knew, was interested in Linux, and was very enthusiastic in participating in the LUG. She didn't speak up in the first meet, nor in the second - even after being prompted/prodded to raise her opinion/voice. Then she stopped coming. What more does one need to do? Fall on our knees and beg to the females all around the world - PLEASE! Bless us with your benign presence and opinions... why can't they just behave normally rather than having special interest groups and movements, etc. etc. A LUG meet is not a godforsaken place where they're opressed, beaten up, harassed, sexually assaulted, etc. etc. Why the special treatment there? Just organize meets at earthly hours and places, so that females can make it (Delhi is not a nice place to go back late in the night!) Nandz. -- http://nandz.blogspot.com ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] D00d3tt3z on ILUG-d - Solution suggestions
At 2005-08-24 12:29:51 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of taking potshots at me, could you actually list out such disrespectful behaviour on the mailing list which causes such a less number of women to participate online? Certainly. There have been several instances of such behaviour on this thread, and multiple people have objected to them each time. If you'd bothered to read them instead of trying to handwave them all away, it might have helped you to understand why the woman at your LUG stopped attending. -- ams ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] eye for photography
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 12:36, Nitin Chandra wrote: Saurabh u do have an eye for photography. some really cool shots of ur Korean trip, and the moments are also caught well. above the regular stuff. great work. hope to get to see more. Nitin *sigh* i thought there was enough said about hijacking threads? Hassath ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] Python Resources
Supreet and others snake lovers also :-) Suggest some good book(s)/links/web resources on python which covers topic like 1.web designing with python. 2.python + pgsql. 3.secure programming. 4.client/server. TIA Nitin chandra Srivastava Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
On Wednesday 24 Aug 2005 12:56 pm, Nitin Chandra wrote: Supreet and others snake lovers also :-) Suggest some good book(s)/links/web resources on python which covers topic like 1.web designing with python. 2.python + pgsql. 3.secure programming. 4.client/server. python comes 'with batteries included', which means that the online python reference is basically what you need if you are using just python. The only book worth buying is 'Python in a Nutshell' (Oreilly, low priced indian edition available) which is a reference to python and a pointer to other progs that you may need for specialised purposes. for web, explore cheetah, zope, plone, twisted and the new sensation, django database - standard is psycopg -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
Python me. Maybe So here is the list of resources I know of 1) docs.python.org Python is well documented. The library guide is something you can print out and keep as reference 2) Read Source code. Python code is most readable of all programming languages. Possible candidates Zope mailman redhat-admin scripts. 3) For RAD one can try out twisted. Network programming cannot get easier than this. 4) __doc__ is your friend if you do python programming. Just do __doc__ against any function you want to get details of and you will get a printable help. Python has a large self documented library. O'rielly books are good starting point. If you keep one under you pillow, you might get some back pain, but nothing which cannot be resolved with the amount of money you will make after reading this book. 5)Take a look at blender for learning how to write glue code 6) psycopg for connecting to PG. And ending this mail without adding anything that KG as not mentioned already regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
Important Dive into python is a nice book to start off. http://diveintopython.org/download/diveintopython-pdf-5.4.zip its available free. Buy a copy, to keep it that way :) regards Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
On Wednesday 24 Aug 2005 3:12 pm, Supreet Sethi wrote: Important Dive into python is a nice book to start off. http://diveintopython.org/download/diveintopython-pdf-5.4.zip not for the fainthearted - i tried it and nearly drowned -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
Thanks Supreet and Kenneth... had ran out ...therfore delay in response. I am going through Dive Into Python. :) Thank u. In a day or two i shall purchase the o'rielly book. thanks Kenneth. Both blender and 3dmax are programmes where python scripting works. Yeswill start to look under the hood of Blender, Zope, mailman, etc. Will keep your tips in mind. thank u once again. Nitin Chandra Srivastava Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] community project (need contribution)
Hello All, i going to have this project online in couple of days and i need help and contribution of you guys on this . The project is : - i am going to have an online database of the problems with the solutions of different services running on linux based servers like CVS, APACHE , SENDMAIL (OR ANY MAIL SERVER), IPTABLES etc. If a user faced a certain problem and got the exact solution for that he can just come to the website and will register there and can put the problems with solution so if somebody else will face the same problem he will have quick help on that. There will be a searchable index of different services from where one can find the solutions. it will be good for the ppl who are doing administration of linux servers and facing problems on day to day basis. I faced lots of problems while working with the servers and the services so i will put the problems with the solutions soon, same i want from you guys to put on but first i will like to know what you ppl think about this and the ppl who wants to contribute can email me bak on this email id. i will put the domain up in couple of days so pls start sending me the data which i can put into my databse. Please do email me the suggestions also Hope to see some replies from you guys Thanks VIshal ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] community project (need contribution)
in infinite wisdom vishalsharma spoke thus on 08/24/05 15:31: If a user faced a certain problem and got the exact solution for that he can just come to the website and will register there and can ^ Why register ? Neither Yahoo! nor google asks you to register before you can start searching ? Leave it open -- Raj ShekharY!IM : lunatech3007 blog : http://rajshekhar.net/blog home : http://rajshekhar.net Disclaimer : http://rajshekhar.net/disclaimer ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] community project (need contribution)
vishalsharma wrote: Hello All, i going to have this project online in couple of days and i need help and contribution of you guys on this . Though I am not interested in contributing to this project I have a suggestion. you can write a 'bot' which goes through various mailing list archives, sorts it out for you and then you can use a cheap indian labor to find out what was the *perfect* solution. Worth a try ... you'll get a big database of questions and answers, Including, How to get women to use linux /tongue in cheek/ I do not know why you would want to do this, a good search engine is all you need. Luckily for me I know how to use two. P. -- Alas, even today there's little worth thinking and saying that does not grievously wound the state, the gods, and common decency. -Goethe ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Meet in Gurgaon
Im in gurgaon. I could also join. plz advise. Rajendra Mohan Bhargava wrote: I have immensely benefited by shifting to Linux and I want to share my experiences with Gurgaon newbies, This is basically a self help group for desktop users. Mr Jay Kumar has agreed to come and help in the meet, Mr Kishore Bhargava has agreed to give a helping hand in case he is free. Interested persons may e-mail to me if Sunday 28th 5pm will be convenient. R M Bhargava 9811206611 Jay Kumar 9818421636 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] community project (need contribution)
Pankaj kaushal wrote: Though I am not interested in contributing to this project I have a suggestion. you can write a 'bot' which goes through various mailing list archives, sorts it out for you and then you can use a cheap indian labor to find out what was the *perfect* solution. Worth a try ... you'll get a big database of questions and answers, Including, How to get women to use linux /tongue in cheek/ Its like asking people who have failed a exam, what is the trick to pass one. They can only come up with reasons why you will never be able to ... I do not know why you would want to do this, a good search engine is all you need. Luckily for me I know how to use two. P. Supreet ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] community project (need contribution)
Supreet Sethi wrote: Pankaj kaushal wrote: Its like asking people who have failed a exam, what is the trick to pass one. They can only come up with reasons why you will never be able to ... Actually, I have found that mailing-list archives are very helpful in solving a problem, many a times the question is not fully answered but the conversation gives you a fair idea of where to start poking. Reminds me of a story, a guy has a bike and one fine day the bike starts making funny noises. So he takes it to this mechanic chap, this dude is an old guy. He takes a wrench and hits it on the engine. The noise stops. He asks 500 bucks for the job. But all you did was hit it with a wrench protests the young dude. Yes replies the old man, The 500 bucks is for knowing where to hit. Not the hitting. P. -- Alas, even today there's little worth thinking and saying that does not grievously wound the state, the gods, and common decency. -Goethe ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
[ilugd] (fwd) [Fwd: [CoMMERCIAL] [fsc04news] Hiring: Program Manager for Geekcorps Mali]
[Forwarding without prejudice -- Raju] This is an RFC 1153 digest. (1 message) -- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Arun Mehta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Fwd: [fsc04news] Hiring: Program Manager for Geekcorps Mali] Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:23:37 +0400 appropriate forward for ilugd? Arun Original Message Subject:[fsc04news] Hiring: Program Manager for Geekcorps Mali Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:36:18 + From: Ian Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freifunkers, Soon I will be stepping down as the Program Manager/Country Director for Geekcorps Mali. Though I am sad to leave the program I am glad to report that our programs will continue in Mali. We need a new leader, an upgrade from the current leadership ;-) If you speak French, know the difference between 802.11 and 802.3, rpm versus apt, and most importantly you have experience managing a project and personnel, please send us your resume/cv. Here is the ad: While we are constantly looking for ICT experts willing to take volunteer assignments in developing countries, this time around, Geekcorps can offer more than the usual great benefits and that warm fuzzy feeling from doing good. Geekcorps is looking for a new Geekcorps Mali Program Manager - a full-time, fully paid position in Bamako, Mali. Below is the full position description. Please post and pass on to related listserv's and discussion groups, we're looking for a very talented specific candidate that will be a challenge to find. Essentially a French-speaking Linux/networking/FOSS Geek with USAID and management experience. Geekcorps Mali Program Manager The International Executive Service Corps, a 501(c)(3) international development nonprofit organization is looking for a passionate and experienced technology expert and advocate to manage its Geekcorps Mali program in Bamako, Mali. The Geekcorps Mali Program Manager is a full-time two-year position, based in Bamako, Mali, open to qualified candidates of any nationality. Reporting to the Vice President of Field Operations and supported by the Geekcorps staff in Washington, DC, this position will be responsible for the management and growth of the Geekcorps Mali program. Geekcorps Mali is an established program with staff, volunteers, and facilities in Mali. Its main goal is to bring technology solutions to community radio stations in Mali, to increase the quality of information they have at their disposal, and to encourage sharing of information and programs between the radio stations. Due to its success, Geekcorps Mali has an increasing portfolio of projects and partners that include SchoolNet, Africare, and the University of Bamako. Required skills: - Technology Leadership: a deep knowledge and understanding of information and communication technologies, especially Linux programming or administration, connectivity (networking, wireless, satellite), and Free and Open Source Software - Project Management: strong project management experience managing multiple ICT-based projects and staff, familiarity with USAID grants and administration requirements, and advanced French verbal and written language skills - Program Development: previous success in identifying and developing winning ICT-based project opportunities and proposals for USAID and other external funders Previous experience working in Africa, managing volunteers, and negotiating contracts are a plus. Application Process: Email a resume, cover letter, link(s) to online portfolios and current contact information for three references to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NO PHONE CALLS PLEASE. Only finalists will be contacted by IESC. ++ to unsubscribe please visit http://freifunk.net/mailman/listinfo/fsc04news ++ or send email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freifunk.net summer convention fresh air - free networks Djursland, September 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- End of this Digest ** -- Raj Mathur[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/ GPG: 78D4 FC67 367F 40E2 0DD5 0FEF C968 D0EF CC68 D17F It is the mind that moves ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
On Wednesday, 24 Aug 2005 1:30 pm, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: python. The only book worth buying is 'Python in a Nutshell' (Oreilly, low priced indian edition available) which is a Learning python is good too. Twisted is not a RAD. it is just networking application framework(from what I read). For a RAD, take a look at either wxglade/wxpython or glade/pygtk. swaroop's Byte of Python is another free python tutorial. Use the Python doc bundle of Thoutreader. All the docs at your fingertips. - Sandip -- Sandip Bhattacharya *Puroga Technologies * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: http://www.puroga.com * Home/Blog: http://www.sandipb.net/blog PGP/GPG Signature: 51A4 6C57 4BC6 8C82 6A65 AE78 B1A1 2280 A129 0FF3 ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
Re: [ilugd] Python Resources
On Wednesday 24 Aug 2005 9:56 pm, Sandip Bhattacharya wrote: For a RAD, take a look at either wxglade/wxpython or glade/pygtk. boa constructor -- regards kg http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawgon tally ho! http://avsap.org.in ಇಂಡ್ಲಿನಕ್ಸ வாழ்க! ___ ilugd mailinglist -- ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Archives at: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi http://www.mail-archive.com/ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org/
