Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
Hi Ravi, I have sent my contact number and CV on your personal email ID. Thank You Aman ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
What's your contact no#. Also mail me your resume. On 30-Sep-2010 10:08 PM, Aman Thakur aman.thakur.1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks gaurav and karanbir singh ji, for your kind reply and useful information. But is it possible to have interview for the job which have a condition that its needs experience people? Wouldn't they just reject the freshers? Thank You Aman ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
Thanks gaurav and karanbir singh ji, for your kind reply and useful information. But is it possible to have interview for the job which have a condition that its needs experience people? Wouldn't they just reject the freshers? Thank You Aman ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On 09/28/2010 04:32 AM, Shrinivasan T wrote: It depends on how a person gets the RHCE certificate. Most of my friends and known persons, just do a crash course on How to crack RHCE? for 5 days and win the exams. Thats just sad. It would be interesting to see what the course developers at Red Hat would make of that. One can do a similar course in the US / UK as well - but to qualify for the course, one needs to alreayd have some level of experience, and they are not cheap. I guess no certification is cheap. Also, in all fairness, I would not hire someone who had an RHCE, but I would hire someone who knew what they were doing and brought a RHCE along. But most of the RHCE people, have tons of fears on programming. They are ready run away even to read a piece of code. They think that admin is the easiest job and coding is the toughest one. I might argue that its the other way around :) But then RHCE as a course is built towards people doing admin. I dont think there really is something of that nature for people wanting to get into coding. One would need to go down the route of a usual / regular programming course. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But i am a fresher. I am working on LINUX platform for the last 2 and half years. So will i get a job in Open source or not, is there a chance? The answers are here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/how-to-get-a-linux-admin-job/ Very well said. I will use that for any further fresher job request. thanks -Sudhanwa -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! www.projects4students.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Thanks to all guys to replied so fast and sharing their priceless views on the topic. I really appreciate that you people tried to help me and tried to show the way to move on. And yes i agree that there are many people who do crash courses and get RHCE certificates but i am not one of those. Obviously i am not excellent but i know enough and have learnt all the things through experience on the Linux Box only. And i think will clear the exam on 30th on the basis of this knowledge only. Thank You Aman ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, But i am a fresher. I am working on LINUX platform for the last 2 and half years. So will i get a job in Open source or not, is there a chance? The answers are here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/how-to-get-a-linux-admin-job/ Very well said. I will use that for any further fresher job request. Few piece of advice which may help in getting experience and exposure when a fresher is looking for a job. -- Lookout for the avenues where people need some free help on servers, tech suggestions etc. That will give you some real good references and real exposure to real problems. (You should not have any problem in finding freeloaders). -- Talk about your skills among peer groups, colleges , etc. That always helps people to prepare for a big interview and get some good references. -- Go out for a interview , even if it's for experienced ones. I am dead sure you will learn some tips and tricks on the way. -- In the end, never worry on and after a interview. Remember , work just make you more old :D. Ciao.. thanks -Sudhanwa -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd -- ~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~!~! www.projects4students.com ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd Regards, Gaurav Mishra Head- Strategic Planning - Media Redefined - A social media branding consulting studio. # Web: http://www.mediaredefined.com # Blog: http://www.gmishra.com # Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/gmishra # LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/gauravmishra7 # Phone: +91.9911264089 ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
On 09/28/2010 08:25 PM, Gaurav Mishra wrote: Few piece of advice which may help in getting experience and exposure when a fresher is looking for a job. ... all good points, I just want to add another one : - Look at and join the usergroups / mailing lists / forums for applications that you are most interested in and try to work with the issues that people report there. Thats a fantastic way to get right into the track of things for that specific app. Eg, if its webservers you are interested in - get onto the lists for apache / nginx / lighttpd and see what issues come through the deluge. And remember to actually work through some of the issues ( setting up a bunch of VM's and testing specific things is easy ). And get onto more than 1 list, dont get project specific. That would help you get a nice good overview of things in the segment, rather than just about that one app. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
[ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
Hello everyone, I am sending this mail for a query and to have views from different people working in Open Source. I am currently pursuing RHCE and i have my RHCE just after 2 days on 30th sept. I was searching for the job in open source on jobs websites but i have found many but they all want experienced people. But i am a fresher. I am working on LINUX platform for the last 2 and half years. So will i get a job in Open source or not, is there a chance? If anyone can can suggest, i would be great. Thank You Aman Thakur ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
Hi, But i am a fresher. I am working on LINUX platform for the last 2 and half years. So will i get a job in Open source or not, is there a chance? The answers are here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/how-to-get-a-linux-admin-job/ -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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Hi, On 09/27/2010 07:06 PM, Shrinivasan T wrote: But i am a fresher. I am working on LINUX platform for the last 2 and half years. So will i get a job in Open source or not, is there a chance? The answers are here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/how-to-get-a-linux-admin-job/ Thats a good post and something that really gets into the basics of things. Things often overlooked. A couple of things though : - you say that its hard to hire a fresh RHCE holder because they have no experience : I would say you need to perhaps consider how they got the rhce in that case, since a part of the rhce idea is to only let people though who can demonstrate that they have onhands admin ability. If that sytem is broken, someone should be concerned! - There are quite a lot of jobs out there which have nothing to do with admin at all. Remember that one only needs 1 admin to run many machines, services, process instances; but there is always a need to write the code in the first place. - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
Re: [ilugd] Job in Linux Administration
The answers are here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/how-to-get-a-linux-admin-job/ Thats a good post and something that really gets into the basics of things. Things often overlooked. A couple of things though : - you say that its hard to hire a fresh RHCE holder because they have no experience : I would say you need to perhaps consider how they got the rhce in that case, since a part of the rhce idea is to only let people though who can demonstrate that they have onhands admin ability. If that sytem is broken, someone should be concerned! I agree. It depends on how a person gets the RHCE certificate. Most of my friends and known persons, just do a crash course on How to crack RHCE? for 5 days and win the exams. In my personal experience with interviewing those kind of persons for linux admin job for my company, 90% of RHCE people have only certificate, not the real knowledge or experience. There are some real hardworkers and real learners. Kudos to them. - There are quite a lot of jobs out there which have nothing to do with admin at all. Remember that one only needs 1 admin to run many machines, services, process instances; but there is always a need to write the code in the first place. Thats right. But most of the RHCE people, have tons of fears on programming. They are ready run away even to read a piece of code. They think that admin is the easiest job and coding is the toughest one. Again, the above is my own experience on interviewing many RHCE holders. Not to hurt anyone. Thanks. Hope the OP can be a part of community by sharing his knowledge and experience. Wishes. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
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In my opinion a majority of people who do RHCE is with the view that we will do it and the job is ready for us because there is a shortage of skilled linux guys. I would say that its not their fault its rather marketed that way. Of Course the shortage is there but of those people who live beyond the click click next next syndrome and can do their hands dirty with the internal of the system(this includes scripting and programming, if required). Major RHCE coaching institutes just focus on making people equip with the bare minimum so that they clear the exam and get certified and there is hardly any effort on the scripting aspect of system administration. I have been working on Linux for the past 7 years and never felt the need to get certified and in fact most of the linux gurus whom i recall none of them are certified too. Regards Dhiraj Gaur On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: The answers are here. http://goinggnu.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/how-to-get-a-linux-admin-job/ Thats a good post and something that really gets into the basics of things. Things often overlooked. A couple of things though : - you say that its hard to hire a fresh RHCE holder because they have no experience : I would say you need to perhaps consider how they got the rhce in that case, since a part of the rhce idea is to only let people though who can demonstrate that they have onhands admin ability. If that sytem is broken, someone should be concerned! I agree. It depends on how a person gets the RHCE certificate. Most of my friends and known persons, just do a crash course on How to crack RHCE? for 5 days and win the exams. In my personal experience with interviewing those kind of persons for linux admin job for my company, 90% of RHCE people have only certificate, not the real knowledge or experience. There are some real hardworkers and real learners. Kudos to them. - There are quite a lot of jobs out there which have nothing to do with admin at all. Remember that one only needs 1 admin to run many machines, services, process instances; but there is always a need to write the code in the first place. Thats right. But most of the RHCE people, have tons of fears on programming. They are ready run away even to read a piece of code. They think that admin is the easiest job and coding is the toughest one. Again, the above is my own experience on interviewing many RHCE holders. Not to hurt anyone. Thanks. Hope the OP can be a part of community by sharing his knowledge and experience. Wishes. -- Regards, T.Shrinivasan My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd ___ Ilugd mailing list Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org http://frodo.hserus.net/mailman/listinfo/ilugd
