Re: [ilugd] NEWS - Long-writeup - Mobilis vs Microsoft

2005-06-01 Thread Linux Lingam
[HUGE snip]

whew! that was quite a rant.
the truth is, that linux has hadly made any significant moves in india
yet, unlike as in china. of course, there is a lot of fire and
brimstone around it. but clear-cut directives from the government and
policies, are missing.

we do have a lot of positive rhetoric from the indian president, ample
coverage in the media, heavy promotion by the linux-biggies, and
wonderful support by the IT media.

contrast with germany, EU, brazil, china, cuba, where the government
has a more active and tangible role to play as well.

koi baat nahin.
i am only responsible for my self.
i use gnulinux.

whenever possible, i try to share and explain the 'value system'
behind muft and mukt software to friends, clients, colleagues, people.
then leave it to them to adopt or discard.

simple living, good computing.

:-)
LL

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Re: [ilugd] NEWS - Long-writeup - Mobilis vs Microsoft

2005-06-01 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
On Wed, 2005-06-01 at 19:26 +0530, Linux Lingam wrote:
 [HUGE snip]
 
 whew! that was quite a rant.
 the truth is, that linux has hadly made any significant moves in india
 yet, unlike as in china. of course, there is a lot of fire and
 brimstone around it. but clear-cut directives from the government and
 policies, are missing.
 
 we do have a lot of positive rhetoric from the indian president, ample
 coverage in the media, heavy promotion by the linux-biggies, and
 wonderful support by the IT media.
 
 contrast with germany, EU, brazil, china, cuba, where the government
 has a more active and tangible role to play as well.
 
 koi baat nahin.
 i am only responsible for my self.
 i use gnulinux.
 
 whenever possible, i try to share and explain the 'value system'
 behind muft and mukt software to friends, clients, colleagues, people.
 then leave it to them to adopt or discard.
 
 simple living, good computing.
 
 :-)
 LL
Our culture has taught us tolerance and we have mistaken it for
indifference. The problem is precisely this: More  more people are
responsible (sic!) only for themselves and do nothing for the society as
a whole and there we are. I wish that could make responsibleness. We are
called an IT superpower and we can't make a good road, nor a working
toilet.

Smaller nation, with no significant work in IT have done bigger things
on Linux (for example: look at what the LUGs in Pakistan have achieved),
only because the users there work together to achieve something, and not
just to pull legs.
Wonder when will we learn some team-work and stop wasting time-money-
resources on nonsense talk/issues/discussions and stop our 'Chalta hai
attitude'. No, this is not meant to be a lecture or comment, as I don't
wish to join/start one of those useless discussions which some like a
lot.

-- 
  Peace, Force  Joy!   Sudhir Gandotra.  98-101-20918

 You don't need violence to shake the world
Treat Others As You Would Have Them Treat You
 www.humanistmovement.org


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Re: [ilugd] NEWS - Long-writeup - Mobilis vs Microsoft

2005-05-31 Thread vivek khurana
isnt it a good idea to post a link and then write a
small description or your thoughts on the article.
Some people dont like to receive long text which can
easily be read on a website.

reagrds
VK

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[ilugd] NEWS - Long-writeup - Mobilis vs Microsoft

2005-05-30 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
BIG NEWS ON USA MICROSOFT: Slavery to It Is Ending


Por Clayton Hallmark - Saturday, May. 28, 2005
(Reported on Slashdot)
Mass-produced computers can KILL Microsoft and free the
world's computer users. They'll be too cheap to accommodate MS
Windows -- MS's bread and butter. Computers will go the way of
TVs and VCRs -- cheap offshore (non-USA) production. They'll
be cheap, simple, general-purpose (FREE SOFTWARE), all-
electronic (no disk drive) -- in other words, real electronic
computers, finally. READ ABOUT THE OPENING SHOT, MOBILIS,
FIRED IN BANGALORE, INDIA, ON MAY 26, 2005.

If you like this idea, remember, above all, avoid Microsoft
traps like the Windows XP Starter Edition. It's a $30 loss-
leader for developing nations -- with price-gouging to begin
soon after. If you are outside the USA, be like Munich,
Germany -- declare your freedom by going open-source for your
enterprise. Beware of the US spies at the USAID and beware
Microsoft's so-called Local Economic Development Program for
Software, which is insurgent in Brazil and Jordan. Read a US
judge's decision on how MS strangles the US market (http://
www.albion.com/microsoft/) and avoid this for your country.

A respected US group, the Gartner group, warns against the
Windows Starter Edition at http://news.com.com/
Gartner+Steer+away+from+cheap+Windows+XP/2100-1016_3-5309139.
html?tag=st.rn .

To read about Microsoft's designs on your country, see http://
news.com.com/A+billion+PC+users+on+the+way/2100-1003_3-
5290988.html?tag=nl . The head of the USAID (US Agency for
International Development) is Andrew Natsios, a nephew of
famed CIA spy Nicholas Natsios.

For non-US persons looking for freedom from Microsoft for
their enterprise, consider the Munich example at: http://www.
usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2003-07-13-microsoft-
linux-munich_x.htm and Germany's example at http://www.dw-
world.de/dw/article/0,1564,568696,00.html . Bergen, Norway's
second city, is planning to switch its computers to Linux.

For balls, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballsmer has threatened Asian
countries -- sovereign nations, mind you -- with lawsuits if
they employ the Linux open-sourse operating system. He
threatens them under the aegis of the World Trade
Organization. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/
1283010/posts

However, the hundred-dollar Linux computer will be the end of
Microsoft's dominance and possibly the company itself. Do you
care? Can the Indian MOBILIS beat Microsoft? Can Wal-Mart beat
Microsoft in America? Since you are reading this on a
computer, you are a slave to MS and you should care. Freeing
us from MS and its robber baron could raise the US
productivity by several points. It can free foreign
governments from aggression by Microsoft. I'll show how. To
have fun, usable, efficient computers, it is necessary. To
finally realize the dream that Bill Gates aborted, we need a
computer that is: CheapInstant-OnSimpleGeneral
Purpose. Only India has one, for $200 (good globalization).
We (the rest of the world) don't. This might not be the
machine, but more are coming, and they will starve Microsoft.

At $100 or $200 there is no room for Windows, unless MS gives
away its XP Special Edition or its CE -- as a trap.

If the computer becoming a commodity is a threat to MS, the
company is only encouraging that trend with its foray into
home entertainment. They are doing this for one reason: to
keep game consoles from competing with PCs and Windows. That's
why you won't see windows on game boxes. This will backfire.
No American company can long make money in the manufacturing
and marketing of home entertainment. It will be deja vu all
over again: When a new must-have Next Big Thing makes a
market in the US, the Asians make it and take it. (The list is
long and started with the transistor: portable radios, all
radios, BW TVs, color TVs, VCRs, CD players, digital clocks,
watches, cameras -- and now, the computer.) Home entertainment
systems are a booby trap for American companies and they will
be for MS, too. Microsoft's participation in this will help
ensure the commoditization of computing -- the opposite of
what they planned.

At $100 or $200 there is no room for Windows and Microsoft,
because the price charged manufacturers -- $70 to $83 for each
computer using Windows -- precludes it. That is a tax that
most of us have to pay when we buy a computer. Microsoft also
has a $30 Windows XP version for what they call entry
computers in developing countries ONLY -- but it is a trap --
much higher prices, like subscription charges, will follow.
DON'T FALL FOR THE $30 WINDOWS STARTER EDITION TRAP! http://
news.com.com/Gartner+Steer+away+from+cheap+Windows+XP/2100-
1016_3-5309139.html?tag=st.rn

$220 AND FALLING

Today's personal computer is not even a true computer, in
that it is not a general-purpose device but a proprietary
Wintel (Windows and Intel, working in collusion) device. The
PC is a corrupted version of the microcomputer vision that we