Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-09 Thread Tushar Shah
Hi,
 This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why
shouldnot 32 bit stuff  run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any
pointers or a correct google query it will be great :)
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-09 Thread Tanveer Singh
On 3/9/06, Tushar Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
  This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why
 shouldnot 32 bit stuff  run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any
 pointers or a correct google query it will be great :)
 Regards
 Tushar



Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems.
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-09 Thread Shiv
hi,
 What would be the correct ans to this:
 Is it easier for a fat man to wear a thin man's trousers or vice-versa?

Tanveer Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/9/06, Tushar Shah  wrote:

 Hi,
  This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why
 shouldnot 32 bit stuff  run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any
 pointers or a correct google query it will be great :)
 Regards
 Tushar



Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems.
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-09 Thread Anand Kapoor
Actually there are certain applications/modules that do not run if
they detect the environment to be 64 bit. I have encountered, this
problem with the tun drivers on 64 bit (http://vtun.sourceforge.net/)
.. I was forced to move to a 32 bit architecture to run the same.

You'd better check out your requirements, day to day 32 bit
applications work just fine though.

Anand

On 3/9/06, Tanveer Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems.

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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
Tanveer Singh wrote:
 On 3/9/06, Tushar Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
  This seems to be slightly off-topic of this thread but why
 shouldnot 32 bit stuff  run on 64 bit ? If any one can lead to any
 pointers or a correct google query it will be great :)
 Regards
 Tushar

 
 
 Should not? No why here. 32bit stuff runs fine on 64bit systems.

hi Tushar,

32bit apps run fine under the  32bit stuff that the x86_64 
specifications stipulate ( its not 64bit, but thats another conversation 
for another day on another thread ).

one of the reasons a lot of people say it wont run is because either 
their package management system is incapable of handling dual / multilib 
and needs funky chrooting tricks or they run the 'build eveyrthing 
yourself' sort of distro's and lack the ability to cleanly build 
i386/x86_64 pacakges.

look at your options, choose a distro that has the functionality you 
need - and things work fine ( as I type this running thunderbird/i386 on 
a x86_64 laptop ).

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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
Nitin Chandra wrote:
 Hello Everyone
 
 could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux
 OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use;
 CDs/DVD any, will be preferable.
 
 My computer config is :
 
 AMD Sempron 2400+ (it sayes 64bit)
 512 MB RAM
 K8V-MX motherboard
 120GB PATA HDD
 
 and if any one has that distribution, can you make a
 copy available to me in West Delhi.
 
 reply to me off list in this regard Please. 

CentOS ?


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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vaibhav Singh wrote:
 well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u.
 softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed
 Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of
 softwares.
 i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently.
 

if you use a smart enough system, there is no problem with 32bit and 
64bit on the same system - eg. CentOS ( plug! )

give bedian and ubuntoo a few more years, they might have these issues 
resolved in a usable manner.

- K

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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sudev Barar wrote:
 On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u.
 softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed
 Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of
 softwares.
 i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently.
 
 I suggest you get better friends... ;-)
 Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in
 64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash
 on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got
 around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I
 will admit it does not work very well...yet!
 

i didnt think it would be worth spamming this list with a gazzilion pkg 
names that only exist in 32bit userspace.

here is one to get you started : vmware

- K

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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-08 Thread Gaurav


 i didnt think it would be worth spamming this list with a gazzilion pkg 
 names that only exist in 32bit userspace.
 
 here is one to get you started : vmware
 
 - K
 
or get best of the both world ...use xen with 64 bit
host Os and 32 bit OS images 

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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
Gaurav wrote:
 
 i didnt think it would be worth spamming this list with a gazzilion pkg 
 names that only exist in 32bit userspace.

 here is one to get you started : vmware

 - K

 or get best of the both world ...use xen with 64 bit
 host Os and 32 bit OS images 
 

considering Xen is much broken still on x86_64, i'd stay away from that 
option for the time being. The guys seem to be doing a lot of work to 
get it working in a usable manner. Lets see how things pan out.

Xen is cool :)

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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-08 Thread Sudev Barar
On 08/03/06, Mahesh T. Pai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in
  q64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running
  flash on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has
  not got around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash
  project, but I will admit it does not work very well...yet!

 libflash-mozplugin and libflash-swfplugin are available on Debian Sid,
 and I run the AMD 64bit version. You can try it.


Tried this. With libflash-swfpulgin or mozplugin if a web site
containing flash is opened in firefox the browser dies! Any pointers
in this direction? I am using Ubuntu 5.10 on AMD 64 machine. Everythng
else is up and running superbly but flash sites.
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Sudev Barar
On 07/03/06, Nitin Chandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux
 OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use;
 CDs/DVD any, will be preferable.

 My computer config is :

 AMD Sempron 2400+ (it sayes 64bit)
 512 MB RAM
 K8V-MX motherboard
 120GB PATA HDD


Replying online. Ubuntu 64 bit works like charm. ILUG-D has copies,
you will have to move and attend the next meeting to get one.
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Gora Mohanty
--- Nitin Chandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
 could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux
 OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use;
 CDs/DVD any, will be preferable.

Why the RPM-based stipulation? Ubuntu 64-bit is available, and is
a winner on the desktop.

[...] 
 and if any one has that distribution, can you make a
 copy available to me in West Delhi.

Sarai has copies, and I can pick one up if you let me know soon,
and can pick it up in Dwarka.

 reply to me off list in this regard Please. 

Sorry. Post here, read here.

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Gora Mohanty
--- Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 07/03/06, Nitin Chandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  could you please suggest a good rpm based 64bit Linux
  OS with all the latest goodies and ease of use;
  CDs/DVD any, will be preferable.
[...]
 Replying online. Ubuntu 64 bit works like charm. ILUG-D has copies,
 you will have to move and attend the next meeting to get one.
[...]

Ubuntu is not RPM-based, but is indeed a good choice. Sarai has copies,
and I can pick one up for Nitin, if he can collect it from Dwarka. If
RPM-based is required, I would suggest OpenSuSE, but do not have 64-bit
CDs.

Regards,
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Vaibhav Singh
well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u.
softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed
Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of
softwares.
i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently.

bye
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Nitin Chandra
Thanks guys.

Gora i do keep going to Dwarka, to Sector 4  market
of sector 12.

So if u can give me your mobile / ph no. i can call
you and get a 1st hand feedback from you :) , i might
be there tomorrow. 

Thanks n Reg
Nitin

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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Sudev Barar
On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u.
 softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed
 Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of
 softwares.
 i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently.

I suggest you get better friends... ;-)
Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in
64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash
on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got
around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I
will admit it does not work very well...yet!


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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Tanveer Singh
On 3/8/06, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u.
  softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed
  Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of
  softwares.
  i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently.

 I suggest you get better friends... ;-)
 Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in
 64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash
 on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got
 around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I
 will admit it does not work very well...yet!

Flash is not that much of a problem. I run firefox in 32bit mode so I can
use all plugins. Rest everything runs 64bit. But then I use a more 64bit
friendly distro(gentoo). Since precompiled 64bit applications are rare,
gentoo flow works fine.
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Narender Hooda
I have CentOS 4.2 (64 bit).
if you need this then please let me know.

PS: you have to pickup the CD's from Qutub institutional Area.


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On 3/8/06, Tanveer Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 3/8/06, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 07/03/06, Vaibhav Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   well using a 64Bit OS will be very tough for u.
   softwares based on 64 Bit are aren't availble much.My friend installed
   Ubuntu 64Bit but had to install 32Bit again due to unavailability of
   softwares.
   i suggest u to stick on 32Bit presently.
 
  I suggest you get better friends... ;-)
  Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in
  64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running flash
  on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has not got
  around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash project, but I
  will admit it does not work very well...yet!
 
 Flash is not that much of a problem. I run firefox in 32bit mode so I can
 use all plugins. Rest everything runs 64bit. But then I use a more 64bit
 friendly distro(gentoo). Since precompiled 64bit applications are rare,
 gentoo flow works fine.
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Re: [ilugd] Require 64bit Linux OS

2006-03-07 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Which softwares that are available in 32bit Ubuntu did not run in
 q64bit one? The only area where you will find problems is running
 flash on browsers and that is due to the fact that Macromedia has
 not got around to releasing 64bit version. There is OpenFlash
 project, but I will admit it does not work very well...yet!

libflash-mozplugin and libflash-swfplugin are available on Debian Sid,
and I run the AMD 64bit version. You can try it. 

You need a chroot environment to run OpenOfffice.org, however. 

The easy way out for me was to install Koffice, which is a good
substitute for OO.o. (It is good enough for an advanced power user of
Word processing like me, so why would koffice not work for
err.. lesser mortals out there?)

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