[IMGate] MSN and Hotmail

2005-02-02 Thread Donald K. Yocum
Hello,
 

Is anyone having a problem with postfix (Imgate) not delivering
Hotmail and MSN accounts?

I do mailq command and there is about 9,000 messages from hotmail or msn in
there. I see a lot of this in log files too.

 

 

eb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/oqmgr[17910]: 0EE3D2E0577: removed

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17797]: connect to
mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.253.99]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17709]: connect to
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.166.230]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17687]: connect to
mx1.hotmail.com[64.4.50.50]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17772]: connect to
mx4.hotmail.com[65.54.190.179]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17849]: connect to
mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.167.5]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17753]: connect to
mx1.hotmail.com[65.54.166.99]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17676]: connect to
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.190.7]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17715]: connect to
mx2.hotmail.com[65.54.252.230]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17836]: connect to
mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.253.99]: Operation timed out (port 25)

Feb  2 14:28:32 mx1 postfix/smtp[17835]: connect to
mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.253.99]: Operation timed out (port 25)

 

Is there way to get this mail moving again?

 

 

Thank

Don






[IMGate] Re: MSN and Hotmail

2005-02-02 Thread Andrew P. Kaplan
Donald K. Yocum wrote:
 Is anyone having a problem with postfix (Imgate) not delivering
 Hotmail and MSN accounts?
 


I notice the same thing in my logs, however most but not all is being 
delivered. I tried to telnet with no success. It looks like 64.4.50.179 
is not responding but 64.4.50.239 is working.


Feb  2 08:14:28 imgate1 postfix/smtp[46308]: connect to 
mx3.hotmail.com[64.4.50.179]: Operation timed out (port 25)
Feb  2 08:15:17 imgate1 postfix/smtp[46248]: connect to 
mx3.hotmail.com[64.4.50.179]: Operation timed out (port 25)
Feb  2 08:21:19 imgate1 postfix/smtp[46247]: connect to 
mx3.hotmail.com[64.4.50.179]: Operation timed out (port 25)
Feb  2 08:26:20 imgate1 postfix/smtp[46308]: 5C066AC39: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mx3.hotmail.com[65.54.167.5], delay=1, 
status=sent (250  [EMAIL PROTECTED] Queued 
mail for delivery)
Feb  2 08:28:46 imgate1 postfix/smtp[46421]: connect to 
mx3.hotmail.com[64.4.50.179]: Operation timed out (port 25)
Feb  2 08:31:52 imgate1 postfix/smtp[46388]: D8132ABCE: 
to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=mx3.hotmail.com[64.4.50.239], 
delay=44, status=sent (250 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Queued mail for delivery)

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www.cshore.com


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[IMGate] New Virus Attack Technique Bypasses Filters

2005-02-02 Thread Andrew P. Kaplan
Perhaps it's time to block .rar extensions. Does anyone ever email a 
.rar file ?

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1756636,00.asp?kc=ewnws013105dtx1k599
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other

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[IMGate] Re: MSN and Hotmail

2005-02-02 Thread Len Conrad

 Is anyone having a problem with postfix (Imgate) not delivering
Hotmail and MSN accounts?

it happens from time to time. their MXs get very slow, and postfix 
smtp_*_timeouts  timeout when trying to send

smtp_connect_timeout = 30s
smtp_data_done_timeout = 600s
smtp_data_init_timeout = 120s
smtp_data_xfer_timeout = 180s
smtp_helo_timeout = 300s
smtp_mail_timeout = 300s
smtp_quit_timeout = 300s
smtp_rcpt_timeout = 300s
smtp_rset_timeout = 20s

either you wait for msn/hotmail to clean up their mess, or you increase 
your SMTP timeout JUST to handle the msn/hotmail mess.

The problem is that increasing your timeouts affects all postfix sending to 
all MXs, not just msn/hotmail.  If you look for other smtp.*timeout in your
maillog, you will get some feel for the situation.

with 9000 backed up, you better increase your SMTP timeout dramatically 
just to bet the mail delivered.

Len







[IMGate] Re: New Virus Attack Technique Bypasses Filters

2005-02-02 Thread Christopher Checca
I've been blocking .rar files for about two years, as I've seen no true =
need
in our office for that file type.

Also I can't ever remember getting an request to receive an override for
this file type either.

Christopher Checca
Packard Transport, Inc.
IT Department
24021 South Municipal Dr
PO Box 380
Channahon, IL.  60410
815 467 9260
815 467 6939 Fax
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.packardtransport.com
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[IMGate] Hotmail and MSN emails

2005-02-02 Thread Donald Yocum
Hello,
 

Is anyone else having problems with hotmail and msn email
getting held up the mail queue?

I change the SMTP Timeout but they are still getting stopped. Can I just let
hotmail and msn go without being checking for a mail server? 

Just for a short time until this gets resolved. This just start a day or two
ago.

 

Thank for any help

Don






[IMGate] Re: Hotmail and MSN emails

2005-02-02 Thread Len Conrad

I change the SMTP Timeout but they are still getting stopped.

there are serveral SMTP timeouts, you need to increase them all.

smtp_connect_timeout =
smtp_data_done_timeout =
smtp_data_init_timeout =
smtp_data_xfer_timeout =
smtp_helo_timeout =
smtp_mail_timeout =
smtp_quit_timeout =
smtp_rcpt_timeout =
smtp_rset_timeout =

  Can I just let
hotmail and msn go without being checking for a mail server?

what?


Just for a short time until this gets resolved. This just start a day or two
ago.

if it's due to this (see in Imail forum):

http://news.com.com/Zombie+trick+expected+to+send+spam+sky-high/2100-7349_3-5560664.html?tag=nefd.top

(Linford/spamhaus sounds very alarmed.)

 then the problem might last more than a few days, and not be just 
msn/hotmail.


Len





[IMGate] concerning the new attack via ISP outbound relays

2005-02-02 Thread Len Conrad
http://news.com.com/Zombie+trick+expected+to+send+spam+sky-high/2100-7349_3-5560664.html?tag=nefd.top

You are an ISP providing email submission via your mailbox server or 
direct-to-imgate where your IPs are trusted for relaying by IP, instead of 
via SMTP AUTH.  This attack could overwhelm your IMail and/or IMGate.

One short-term tactic would be for IMGate not to trust IMail's IP for 
relaying via mynetworks, but to run SAV/RAV before permit_mynetworks.

If your subscriber networks were infected with this trojan and relaying out 
through IMail + IMGate, pflogsumm would show large quantities of SAV/RAV 
rejects of mail from your mailbox server.  This would keep IMGate from 
being swamped with undeliverable msgs, but the mailbox server would be 
swamped instead, having accepted/queued the msgs as deliverable only to 
find IMGate rejecting them.

Len





[IMGate] Re: concerning the new attack via ISP outbound relays

2005-02-02 Thread Andrew P. Kaplan
Quoting Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 One short-term tactic would be for IMGate not to trust IMail's IP for
 relaying via mynetworks, but to run SAV/RAV before permit_mynetworks.


Any suggestions for an ISP not running SAV/RAV due to high mail volume 250k/day


Andrew P. Kaplan
www.cshore.com


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[IMGate] Re: concerning the new attack via ISP outbound relays

2005-02-02 Thread Len Conrad

  One short-term tactic would be for IMGate not to trust IMail's IP for
  relaying via mynetworks, but to run SAV/RAV before permit_mynetworks.
 

Any suggestions for an ISP not running SAV/RAV due to high mail volume 
250k/day

but of the 250K total, how many are outbound? 10%?  That's really not too 
much for SAV/RAV.  postfix's positive/negative caching for SAV/RAV makes it 
probably the best implementation.

You could set up a separate IMGate for outbound only and do SAV/RAV there.

But just IMGate to prevent the spamming from getting out is IMGate SAV/RAV 
rejects as a symptom of your networks being infected.

Len





[IMGate] Re: concerning the new attack via ISP outbound relays

2005-02-02 Thread Andrew P. Kaplan
Quoting Len Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 You could set up a separate IMGate for outbound only and do SAV/RAV there.

Thanks great idea.

Andrew P. Kaplan
www.cshore.com


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