Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
Hello, On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box. Do you have any hints to 'import' articles from google into gnus ? Thanks ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
On Aug 2, 12:08 am, Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote: *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com: Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem not to show them. Thanks. I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13. Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are hosted here. As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you mentioned. And posting is allowed. You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comtofind news servers carrying your groups, and compare the speed. I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching. Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box. -- Numquam minus solus quam cum solus Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-) It seems anyway pretty difficult to find servers which allow posting! Isn't it? ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
*On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT) * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com: On Aug 2, 12:08 am, Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote: *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com: Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem not to show them. Thanks. I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13. Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are hosted here. As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you mentioned. And posting is allowed. You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comtofind news servers carrying your groups, and compare the speed. I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching. Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box. -- Numquam minus solus quam cum solus Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-) It seems anyway pretty difficult to find servers which allow posting! Isn't it? I dont know. Anyway you can find some. BTW, gmane.emacs.gnus.user seems the same group as gnu.emacs.gnus. So you can use news.gmane.org to post to this group. -- Homo sum, humani being nil a me alienum puto ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Okay. I'll take it into account. BTW, I am very satisfied of news.sunsite.dk. It was exactly what I wanted. - -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAkp1XH8ACgkQM0LLzLt8MhyPLQCePkQu90BmIcb0c5WON8h9aTHq 91AAnigApITqvpnQWi5B39/2TagB6i4J =so3A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
*On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT) * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com: Hello, I looked in various manuals, but I did not find a way to post easily in Usenet groups using Gnus. However, it is the primary role of Gnus. When I use Groups Subscribe Subscribe to a group, typing the Usenet group (i.e. here ``gnu.emacs.gnus'') does not work. How can I manage to make it work, and, evidently, being conserved through Gnus' shutdowns and restarts? Thanks. Something like: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nntp news.gmane.org))) in your .gnus.el. (Change news server to yours). Start Gnus, in *Group* buffer type ^ to open *Server* buffer. Browse group list of your news server, and press u to subscribe to groups. In any group, press a to post new message, f to follow up, and F to followup and yank. These are all in Gnus manual. -- The enemies of Freedom do not argue; they shout and they shoot. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Merciadri wrote: Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? Gmane is an archive of mailing lists (which you can access via nntp), not a news server - you won't find any usenet groups on Gmane. For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find them out. Is it normal? Quite. Best regards, Adam -- So this is what being a morning person is like, I Adam Sjøgren thought. It's like being 80 years old.a...@koldfront.dk ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
*On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com: Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem not to show them. Thanks. I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13. Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are hosted here. As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you mentioned. And posting is allowed. You can use sites like http://newzbot.com to find news servers carrying your groups, and compare the speed. I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching. Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box. -- Numquam minus solus quam cum solus ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
On 1 août, 15:28, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote: *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT) * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com: Hello, I looked in various manuals, but I did not find a way to post easily in Usenet groups using Gnus. However, it is the primary role of Gnus. When I use Groups Subscribe Subscribe to a group, typing the Usenet group (i.e. here ``gnu.emacs.gnus'') does not work. How can I manage to make it work, and, evidently, being conserved through Gnus' shutdowns and restarts? Thanks. Something like: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nntp news.gmane.org))) in your .gnus.el. (Change news server to yours). Start Gnus, in *Group* buffer type ^ to open *Server* buffer. Browse group list of your news server, and press u to subscribe to groups. In any group, press a to post new message, f to follow up, and F to followup and yank. These are all in Gnus manual. -- The enemies of Freedom do not argue; they shout and they shoot. Thanks. It was clear, not like in the manual. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
@CHENG Gao: I do not have a Server buffer available through typing ^ in the Group buffer. I thus cannot retrieve all the groups which would be proposed. Is there a solution? On 1 août, 15:58, a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote: On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:39:33 -0700 (PDT), Merciadri wrote: Thanks. It was clear, not like in the manual. Could you possibly point out where you were expecting to find the bits of information you couldn't? Simply in section 1.5.2 of the manual located at: http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus.pdf. I think that it is a personal suggestion, and it seems not to be interesting. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
@CHENG Gao: I managed to display available groups on your server using Gnus Browse Foreign Server. It seems that we are not using the same version of Gnu: I have v5.11. And you? Thanks. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem not to show them. Thanks. ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english
Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus
On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote: *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT) * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com: Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem not to show them. Thanks. I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13. Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are hosted here. As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you mentioned. And posting is allowed. You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comto find news servers carrying your groups, and compare the speed. I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching. Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box. -- Numquam minus solus quam cum solus Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-) ___ info-gnus-english mailing list info-gnus-english@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/info-gnus-english