Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-04 Thread Francis Moreau
Hello,

On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote:

[...]

 Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
 long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
 in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
 archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.

Do you have any hints to 'import' articles from google into gnus ?

Thanks
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
On Aug 2, 12:08 am, Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote:



  *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
  * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com:

   Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
   I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
   them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
   not to show them. Thanks.

  I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.

  Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
  hosted here.

  As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
  Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
  mentioned. And posting is allowed.

  You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comtofind news servers carrying
  your groups, and compare the speed.

  I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
  faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
  my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching.

  Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
  long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
  in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
  archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.

  --
  Numquam minus solus quam cum solus

 Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-)

It seems anyway pretty difficult to find servers which allow posting!
Isn't it?
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-02 Thread CHENG Gao
*On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT)
* Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com:

 On Aug 2, 12:08 am, Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote:



  *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
  * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com:

   Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
   I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
   them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
   not to show them. Thanks.

  I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.

  Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
  hosted here.

  As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
  Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
  mentioned. And posting is allowed.

  You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comtofind news servers carrying
  your groups, and compare the speed.

  I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
  faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
  my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching.

  Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
  long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
  in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
  archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.

  --
  Numquam minus solus quam cum solus

 Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-)

 It seems anyway pretty difficult to find servers which allow posting!
 Isn't it?

I dont know. Anyway you can find some.

BTW, gmane.emacs.gnus.user seems the same group as gnu.emacs.gnus. So
you can use news.gmane.org to post to this group.

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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Okay. I'll take it into account. BTW, I am very satisfied of news.sunsite.dk. 
It was exactly what I
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread CHENG Gao
*On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT)
* Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

 I looked in various manuals, but I did not find a way to post easily
 in Usenet groups using Gnus. However, it is the primary role of Gnus.
 When I use Groups  Subscribe  Subscribe to a group, typing the
 Usenet group (i.e. here ``gnu.emacs.gnus'') does not work. How can I
 manage to make it work, and, evidently, being conserved through Gnus'
 shutdowns and restarts?

 Thanks.

Something like:

(setq  gnus-secondary-select-methods  '((nntp news.gmane.org)))

in your .gnus.el.
(Change news server to yours).

Start Gnus, in *Group* buffer type ^ to open *Server* buffer. Browse
group list of your news server, and press u to subscribe to groups.

In any group, press a to post new message, f to follow up, and F
to followup and yank.

These are all in Gnus manual.


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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread Adam Sjøgren
On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Merciadri wrote:

 Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane?

Gmane is an archive of mailing lists (which you can access via nntp),
not a news server - you won't find any usenet groups on Gmane.

 For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I
 did not find them out. Is it normal?

Quite.


  Best regards,

Adam

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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread CHENG Gao
*On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
* Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com:

 Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
 I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
 them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
 not to show them. Thanks.

I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.

Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
hosted here.

As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
mentioned. And posting is allowed.

You can use sites like http://newzbot.com to find news servers carrying
your groups, and compare the speed.

I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching. 

Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.


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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread Merciadri Luca
On 1 août, 15:28, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote:
 *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT)
 * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com:

  Hello,

  I looked in various manuals, but I did not find a way to post easily
  in Usenet groups using Gnus. However, it is the primary role of Gnus.
  When I use Groups  Subscribe  Subscribe to a group, typing the
  Usenet group (i.e. here ``gnu.emacs.gnus'') does not work. How can I
  manage to make it work, and, evidently, being conserved through Gnus'
  shutdowns and restarts?

  Thanks.

 Something like:

 (setq  gnus-secondary-select-methods  '((nntp news.gmane.org)))

 in your .gnus.el.
 (Change news server to yours).

 Start Gnus, in *Group* buffer type ^ to open *Server* buffer. Browse
 group list of your news server, and press u to subscribe to groups.

 In any group, press a to post new message, f to follow up, and F
 to followup and yank.

 These are all in Gnus manual.

 --
 The enemies of Freedom do not argue; they shout and they shoot.

Thanks. It was clear, not like in the manual.
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread Merciadri Luca
@CHENG Gao: I do not have a Server buffer available through typing ^
in the Group buffer. I thus cannot retrieve all the groups which would
be proposed. Is there a solution?

On 1 août, 15:58, a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:39:33 -0700 (PDT), Merciadri wrote:
  Thanks. It was clear, not like in the manual.

 Could you possibly point out where you were expecting to find the bits
 of information you couldn't?

Simply in section 1.5.2 of the manual located at: 
http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus.pdf.
I think that it is a personal suggestion, and it seems not to be
interesting.
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread Merciadri Luca
@CHENG Gao: I managed to display available groups on your server using
Gnus  Browse Foreign Server. It seems that we are not using the same
version of Gnu: I have v5.11. And you? Thanks.
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread Merciadri Luca
Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
not to show them. Thanks.
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

2009-08-01 Thread Merciadri Luca
On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao cheng...@gmail.com wrote:
 *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
 * Also sprach Merciadri Luca merciadril...@gmail.com:

  Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
  I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
  them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
  not to show them. Thanks.

 I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.

 Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
 hosted here.

 As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
 Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
 mentioned. And posting is allowed.

 You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comto find news servers carrying
 your groups, and compare the speed.

 I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
 faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
 my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching.

 Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
 long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
 in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
 archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.

 --
 Numquam minus solus quam cum solus

Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-)
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