Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the Netherlands?

2023-10-10 Thread Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond 

No noticeable change on content supplier side:
https://ipv6matrix.org/hosts/country-NL

Kindest regards,

Olivier


On 10/10/2023 11:26, Mat Ford via ipv6-wg wrote:

Pick your outlier:

5abe11939cb84340.jpeg
IPv6 Deployment in NL 

public.flourish.studio 






On 10 Oct 2023, at 10:26, Marco Davids (Private) via ipv6-wg 
 wrote:


Hello,

Is there anyone in this group that would dare to speculate on the 
sudden drop in IPv6 adoption for my country, the Netherlands on this URL?


https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption

The drop is best shown here:

https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/project.php


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Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the Netherlands?

2023-10-10 Thread Geoff Huston 
Because from the 15th to the 26th September the Google Ad system just stopped 
impressing all of our ads. Well not quite all - 1 or 2 snuck through, which was 
enough to make the percentage reports go nuts! Here's the plot of daily total 
delivered ads for the Netherlands across that last year or so.

Geoff




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> On 10 Oct 2023, at 9:28 pm, Robert Kisteleki  wrote:
>
> (It's a conjecture but) I find it plausible that Google does some network 
> engineering in various regions, including the one serving NL, and selectively 
> turning IPv6 on/off for stuff they serve.
>
> If what the Google stats is shown what percentage of traffic *to them* is on 
> IPv6, then these changes may cause the stats to change. "Geoff's ads" are 
> offered by Google but served by Geoff's infra, which is not Google's so it is 
> unaffected.
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 2023-10-10 11:50, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) via ipv6-wg wrote:
>> A measurement issue at Google is probably where to look (or some 
>> peering/routing with Google AS)
>> -éric
>> *From: *ipv6-wg  on behalf of Mikael Abrahamsson 
>> via ipv6-wg 
>> *Date: *Tuesday, 10 October 2023 at 11:35
>> *To: *Marco Davids (Private) 
>> *Cc: *RIPE IPv6 WG 
>> *Subject: *Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the 
>> Netherlands?
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, Marco Davids (Private) via ipv6-wg wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Is there anyone in this group that would dare to speculate on the sudden 
>>> drop in IPv6 adoption for my country, the Netherlands on this URL?
>> https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NL <https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NL> 
>> doesn't show equivalent drop.
>> Last I heard presentation about how APNIC measures this, it's through
>> Google ads served to web browsers, so that sounds like similar method to
>> what google might be using.
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Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the Netherlands?

2023-10-10 Thread Robert Kisteleki 
(It's a conjecture but) I find it plausible that Google does some 
network engineering in various regions, including the one serving NL, 
and selectively turning IPv6 on/off for stuff they serve.


If what the Google stats is shown what percentage of traffic *to them* 
is on IPv6, then these changes may cause the stats to change. "Geoff's 
ads" are offered by Google but served by Geoff's infra, which is not 
Google's so it is unaffected.


Robert


On 2023-10-10 11:50, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) via ipv6-wg wrote:
A measurement issue at Google is probably where to look (or some 
peering/routing with Google AS)


-éric

*From: *ipv6-wg  on behalf of Mikael 
Abrahamsson via ipv6-wg 

*Date: *Tuesday, 10 October 2023 at 11:35
*To: *Marco Davids (Private) 
*Cc: *RIPE IPv6 WG 
*Subject: *Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for 
the Netherlands?


On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, Marco Davids (Private) via ipv6-wg wrote:


Hello,

Is there anyone in this group that would dare to speculate on the sudden drop 
in IPv6 adoption for my country, the Netherlands on this URL?


https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NL 
<https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NL> doesn't show equivalent drop.


Last I heard presentation about how APNIC measures this, it's through
Google ads served to web browsers, so that sounds like similar method to
what google might be using.

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Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the Netherlands?

2023-10-10 Thread Mat Ford via ipv6-wg 
Pick your outlier:


[5abe11939cb84340.jpeg]
IPv6 Deployment in NL
public.flourish.studio


On 10 Oct 2023, at 10:26, Marco Davids (Private) via ipv6-wg  
wrote:

Hello,

Is there anyone in this group that would dare to speculate on the sudden drop 
in IPv6 adoption for my country, the Netherlands on this URL?

https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption

The drop is best shown here:

https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/project.php


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Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the Netherlands?

2023-10-10 Thread Eric Vyncke (evyncke) via ipv6-wg 
A measurement issue at Google is probably where to look (or some 
peering/routing with Google AS)

-éric

From: ipv6-wg  on behalf of Mikael Abrahamsson via 
ipv6-wg 
Date: Tuesday, 10 October 2023 at 11:35
To: Marco Davids (Private) 
Cc: RIPE IPv6 WG 
Subject: Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the 
Netherlands?
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, Marco Davids (Private) via ipv6-wg wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Is there anyone in this group that would dare to speculate on the sudden drop
> in IPv6 adoption for my country, the Netherlands on this URL?

https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NL doesn't show equivalent drop.

Last I heard presentation about how APNIC measures this, it's through
Google ads served to web browsers, so that sounds like similar method to
what google might be using.

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Re: [ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the Netherlands?

2023-10-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson via ipv6-wg 

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, Marco Davids (Private) via ipv6-wg wrote:


Hello,

Is there anyone in this group that would dare to speculate on the sudden drop 
in IPv6 adoption for my country, the Netherlands on this URL?


https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/NL doesn't show equivalent drop.

Last I heard presentation about how APNIC measures this, it's through 
Google ads served to web browsers, so that sounds like similar method to 
what google might be using.


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[ipv6-wg] Why did the Google IPv6 statistics dropped for the Netherlands?

2023-10-10 Thread Marco Davids (Private) via ipv6-wg 

Hello,

Is there anyone in this group that would dare to speculate on the sudden 
drop in IPv6 adoption for my country, the Netherlands on this URL?


https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html#tab=per-country-ipv6-adoption

The drop is best shown here:

https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/project.php


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