Re: [isabelle-dev] jedit Replace Find

2012-11-19 Thread Makarius

On Sun, 18 Nov 2012, Tobias Nipkow wrote:


Am 16/11/2012 14:47, schrieb Makarius:

On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Tobias Nipkow wrote:

This is what you should not do: search and replace a string 
selectively that occurs many times in a theory. I did this twice (the 
second time to see if it was repeatable), using Replace  Find, and 
after about 50 replacements, jedit went all funny and screwed up the 
window manager on my mac. Once I managed to log out (and back in), the 
window manager was fine again.


Did you ever see this incident with Mac OS X again?


Yes, I just retried and the beahviour is unchanged (it may have take a 
bit longer to provoke it). Open Wellfounded.thy and replace wf by 
something, that does it.


This way I managed to reproduce the problem after some rounds of clicking, 
using Snow Leopard both with the native Mac OS X and Nimbus look  
feel. Mountain Lion appears to work, at least I did not see anything bad 
after trying the same 4-5 times longer than on Snow Leopard.


So it might be just bad luck of Java 7 on Snow Leopard.  Oracle says it 
does nothing against it nor for it.  So if Java 7 happens to work on what 
Apple considers legacy already, it is mere luck.



Makarius

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Re: [isabelle-dev] jedit Replace Find

2012-11-18 Thread Tobias Nipkow
Am 16/11/2012 14:47, schrieb Makarius:
 On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Tobias Nipkow wrote:
 
 This is what you should not do: search and replace a string selectively that
 occurs many times in a theory. I did this twice (the second time to see if it
 was repeatable), using Replace  Find, and after about 50 replacements, jedit
 went all funny and screwed up the window manager on my mac. Once I managed to
 log out (and back in), the window manager was fine again.
 
 Did you ever see this incident with Mac OS X again?

Yes, I just retried and the beahviour is unchanged (it may have take a bit
longer to provoke it). Open Wellfounded.thy and replace wf by something, that
does it.

Tobias

 
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Re: [isabelle-dev] jedit Replace Find

2012-11-16 Thread Makarius

On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Tobias Nipkow wrote:

This is what you should not do: search and replace a string selectively 
that occurs many times in a theory. I did this twice (the second time to 
see if it was repeatable), using Replace  Find, and after about 50 
replacements, jedit went all funny and screwed up the window manager on 
my mac. Once I managed to log out (and back in), the window manager was 
fine again.


Did you ever see this incident with Mac OS X again?


Makarius
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Re: [isabelle-dev] jedit Replace Find

2012-10-05 Thread Makarius

On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Tobias Nipkow wrote:


For example 03bc7afe8814


There is certainly not a general problem of jedit and JVM on Mac OS that covers
all versions of the past and future.  Funny things on Mac OS have happened
before, but were sorted out at some point, by looking very closely which version
of what was used of what component.


Actually, what is your Mac OS version?

The Mac Pro in my office runs Snow Leopard most of the time, while my 
MacBook is on Mountain Lion already.  I am not testing Lion much.



There are two sources of problems with Java/jEdit on Mac OS to be 
anticipated for the coming months:


  (1) Special cases in jEdit to accomodate former Apple Java 1.6
  now work against Oracle Java 1.7.  I've already removed some old
  key handler workaround to make normal COMMAND-C/X/V work without
  further ado on Java 1.7.

  (2) Java 1.7 is officially supported by Oracle only for Lion and
  Mountain Lion, but usually happens to work on Snow Leopard as
  well.  They don't make plans against it, but they don't support it
  specifically.

In the testing phase of Java 1.7, Oracle had a version for Snow Leopard 
that was based on a certain update/patch for Apple's Java 1.6.  Thus my 
local machine might now look slightly different to official Java 1.7 and 
have fewer problems in that respect.



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Re: [isabelle-dev] jedit Replace Find

2012-10-02 Thread Makarius

On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Tobias Nipkow wrote:

This is what you should not do: search and replace a string selectively 
that occurs many times in a theory. I did this twice (the second time to 
see if it was repeatable), using Replace  Find, and after about 50 
replacements, jedit went all funny and screwed up the window manager on 
my mac. Once I managed to log out (and back in), the window manager was 
fine again.


Can you give your current Isabelle changeset id?  Not just as a habit on 
the isabelle-dev mailing list, but to make any sense for such a report.


There is certainly not a general problem of jedit and JVM on Mac OS that 
covers all versions of the past and future.  Funny things on Mac OS have 
happened before, but were sorted out at some point, by looking very 
closely which version of what was used of what component.



Makarius

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Re: [isabelle-dev] jedit Replace Find

2012-10-02 Thread Tobias Nipkow
For example 03bc7afe8814

Tobias

Am 02/10/2012 20:11, schrieb Makarius:
 On Tue, 2 Oct 2012, Tobias Nipkow wrote:
 
 This is what you should not do: search and replace a string selectively that
 occurs many times in a theory. I did this twice (the second time to see if it
 was repeatable), using Replace  Find, and after about 50 replacements, jedit
 went all funny and screwed up the window manager on my mac. Once I managed to
 log out (and back in), the window manager was fine again.
 
 Can you give your current Isabelle changeset id?  Not just as a habit on the
 isabelle-dev mailing list, but to make any sense for such a report.
 
 There is certainly not a general problem of jedit and JVM on Mac OS that 
 covers
 all versions of the past and future.  Funny things on Mac OS have happened
 before, but were sorted out at some point, by looking very closely which 
 version
 of what was used of what component.
 
 
 Makarius
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