Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
What you just described is called tortious interference or interference with contractual relations. Calling up someone's client and telling them their integrator did something wrong or bad by using the older, more liberally licensed version of iTextSharp can constitute civil malfeasance under the law if you induce the client to cancel any existing contract, back out of work, or discontinue a business relationship that otherwise would have remained intact. This is a tort under common law and suit can be brought against you to hold you liable for any damages the integrator incurred because of your interference. I sincerely hope iText have discontinued this practice, as it is not only illegal, but immoral. -- View this message in context: http://itext-general.2136553.n4.nabble.com/Use-of-iTextSharp-dll-4-1-6-tp4659543p4660716.html Sent from the iText - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
codemeister2 wrote What you just described is called tortious interference or interference with contractual relations... just in this case is merely more than a year ago... -- View this message in context: http://itext-general.2136553.n4.nabble.com/Use-of-iTextSharp-dll-4-1-6-tp4659543p4660718.html Sent from the iText - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
On 2/5/2015 17:02 PM, codemeister2 wrote: What you just described is called tortious interference or interference with contractual relations. Calling up someone's client and telling them their integrator did something wrong or bad by using the older, more liberally licensed version of iTextSharp can constitute civil malfeasance under the law if you induce the client to cancel any existing contract, back out of work, or discontinue a business relationship that otherwise would have remained intact. This is a tort under common law and suit can be brought against you to hold you liable for any damages the integrator incurred because of your interference. I sincerely hope iText have discontinued this practice, as it is not only illegal, but immoral. We prefer working WITH integrators, not AGAINST integrators. Watch this testimony from an integrator to find out what we mean by this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzF8E4h7Evo Many integrators have already signed up with us to be a reseller in the sense that they get a reduction when they use iText in many different projects. Unfortunately, we also know of some integrators who don't want to work with us. For reasons unknown, they introduce obsolete, unsupported, unofficial iText versions in projects of their customers. Because of this, their customers' projects would never survive a due diligence if ever a due diligence process was necessary. See http://stackoverflow.com/a/25698526/1622493 to find out why not. What integrator cheats a customer by introducing obsolete software into his code base? I'm sure you'll agree that such behavior is immoral and even raises legal issues. -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
On 2/5/2015 17:59 PM, mkl wrote: just in this case is merely more than a year ago... And the situation that is described, where the customer stopped working with the integrator, was a situation where the integrator had introduced the AGPL version of iText in a situation that either required having a license, or required that all the software written for his customer was published as AGPL. The integrator failed to inform his customer of these two options and the customer didn't appreciate that (for very good reasons). -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming. The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/ ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
On 12/12/2013 11:25 AM, Anita wrote: We planning to use iTextSharp-4.1.6 DLL. We are not indenting to modify any code. We will need to reference the dll. In the site https://github.com/itextsharper/iTextSharp-4.1.6 it is mentioned, this is The MPL / LGPLv2 version of the iTextSharp library for posterity. Also in wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IText it is mentioned Versions of iText through 4.1.6/4.2.0 were released under the MPL and LGPL licenses, which allowed them to be used in closed-source software projects Please help me with this usage validity. Please start by reading http://itextpdf.com/salesfaq You'll notice that there are legal as well as technical problems with versions of iText(Sharp) predating version 5. Some people have asked us: can't we fix those issues so that we can use iText(Sharp) for free? Please read http://lowagie.com/why5 and ask yourself: are you going to participate to ISO to know more about the standard? See http://itextpdf.com/events/ISO/NY2013 Finally, you refer to a version of iTextSharp published on Github by somebody with the (Trademark-infringing) nickname iTextSharper. This version is NO endorsed by the iText Group. How do you know this version doesn't contain any features/functionality that is different from what's inside the official version? Who are you going to turn to for help if something is wrong with that version? -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
Thanks for the quick response.Yes i got your viewpoint.But if the application is referencing the dll with version 4.1.6.0 then we can still continue using the same right even after new release? if somebody is happy with the old version and don't feel need to upgrade it to newer version can still use 4.1.6.0 version under the MPL and LGPL licenses, which allowed them to be used in closed-source software projects.Please correct me if i am wrong here. -- View this message in context: http://itext-general.2136553.n4.nabble.com/Use-of-iTextSharp-dll-4-1-6-tp4659543p4659546.html Sent from the iText - General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.-- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
On 12/12/2013 12:39 PM, TestUser wrote: if somebody is happy with the old version and don't feel need to upgrade it to newer version can still use 4.1.6.0 version under the MPL and LGPL licenses, which allowed them to be used in closed-source software projects. It depends. Do you have customers? If so, your customer may feel disrespected if you sell him software that uses a version that is obsolete and no longer endorsed. For instance: on occasion, the iText Group contacts companies that use PDFs created with the old version, explaining the benefits of upgrading. In some cases, these companies didn't know they were using iText; iText was introduced by an integrator who didn't tell them about the fact that an obsolete version was used. In at least one case, this led to the situation where a company stopped all cooperation with one integrator in favor of a new cooperation with another integrator from iText's whitelist. Are you a start-up? If so, you may be looking for an investor. However, before funding or acquiring a company, a VC or a potential buyer will do a due diligence. As soon as they discover that you've knowingly introduced an obsolete version of iText, you'll risk that they're no longer interested. Quite often, we get inquiries from companies in the context of such a due diligence. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
Re: [iText-questions] Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6
But if the application is referencing the dll with version 4.1.6.0 then we can still continue using the same right even after new release? if somebody is happy with the old version and don't feel need to upgrade it to newer version can still use 4.1.6.0 version under the MPL and LGPL licenses, which allowed them to be used in closed-source software projects. Please correct me if i am wrong here. From a pure license perspective: If you comply with MPL/LGPL and use version 4.1.6 (or 4.2.0) of course you can continue to use it (even if a later version of that lib has a different license). That lib will for ever have that license and nothing can change that. You can not retroactivly change a libs license... From a technical/feature perspective: Bruno already covered it (and yourself by stating if somebody is happy with the old version and don't feel need to upgrade) -- View this message in context: Re: Use of iTextSharp dll 4.1.6http://itext-general.2136553.n4.nabble.com/Use-of-iTextSharp-dll-4-1-6-tp4659543p4659546.html Sent from the iText - General mailing list archivehttp://itext-general.2136553.n4.nabble.com/at Nabble.com. -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a clear picture of how application performance affects their revenue. With AppDynamics, you get 100% visibility into your Java,.NET, PHP application. Start your 15-day FREE TRIAL of AppDynamics Pro! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=84349831iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk___ iText-questions mailing list iText-questions@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/itext-questions iText(R) is a registered trademark of 1T3XT BVBA. Many questions posted to this list can (and will) be answered with a reference to the iText book: http://www.itextpdf.com/book/ Please check the keywords list before you ask for examples: http://itextpdf.com/themes/keywords.php
