Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-23 Thread Cody Amen
The Jesuit mind is always justifying itself and trying to seem like there is 
popularity and hype around there ultimate disgraceful mislead.

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> On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:26 PM, Cody Amen  wrote:
> 
> Hey man dont advertise or opinion. Lucene is just fine the way it is. Your 
> just idolating some Jesuit opinion to try and hurt people and disinformation.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Cody Amen  wrote:
>> 
>> As oppossed to like i want to find everything less than < 6.00
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:05 AM, Michael Wechner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Adrien
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much for your feedback as well!
>>> 
>>> I just replaced the StringField by KeywordField :-)
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Michael
>>> 
> Am 20.10.23 um 14:13 schrieb Adrien Grand:
 FYI there is also KeywordField, which combines StringField and 
 SortedSetDocValuesField. It supports filtering, sorting, faceting and 
 retrieval. It's my go-to field for string values.
 
 Le ven. 20 oct. 2023, 12:20, Michael McCandless 
  a écrit :
 
  There are some differences.
 
  StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you
  can do
  efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.
 
  FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
  (maybe?)),
  but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
  facet
  counts or simple aggregations at search time.
 
  FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
  points/levels of your hierarchy.
 
  Mike McCandless
 
  http://blog.mikemccandless.com
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner
  
  wrote:
 
> Hi
> 
> I have found the following simple Facet Example
> 
> 
> 
  
 https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
> 
> whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
> StringField, e.g.
> 
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
> 
> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
> 
> which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this,
  e.g.
> 
> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
> 
> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
> 
> ?
> 
> IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the
  FacetField
> approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
> Or do I misunderstand this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-23 Thread Cody Amen
Hey man dont advertise or opinion. Lucene is just fine the way it is. Your just 
idolating some Jesuit opinion to try and hurt people and disinformation.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2023, at 2:25 PM, Cody Amen  wrote:
> 
> As oppossed to like i want to find everything less than < 6.00
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:05 AM, Michael Wechner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Adrien
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your feedback as well!
>> 
>> I just replaced the StringField by KeywordField :-)
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
 Am 20.10.23 um 14:13 schrieb Adrien Grand:
>>> FYI there is also KeywordField, which combines StringField and 
>>> SortedSetDocValuesField. It supports filtering, sorting, faceting and 
>>> retrieval. It's my go-to field for string values.
>>> 
>>> Le ven. 20 oct. 2023, 12:20, Michael McCandless  
>>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>>   There are some differences.
>>> 
>>>   StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you
>>>   can do
>>>   efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.
>>> 
>>>   FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
>>>   (maybe?)),
>>>   but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
>>>   facet
>>>   counts or simple aggregations at search time.
>>> 
>>>   FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
>>>   points/levels of your hierarchy.
>>> 
>>>   Mike McCandless
>>> 
>>>   http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner
>>>   
>>>   wrote:
>>> 
 Hi
 
 I have found the following simple Facet Example
 
 
 
>>>   
>>> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
 
 whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
 StringField, e.g.
 
 doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
 doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
 doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
 doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
 
 doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
 doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
 
 which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this,
>>>   e.g.
 
 doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
 doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
 doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
 doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
 
 doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
 doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
 
 ?
 
 IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the
>>>   FacetField
 approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
 Or do I misunderstand this?
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-23 Thread Cody Amen
As oppossed to like i want to find everything less than < 6.00

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:05 AM, Michael Wechner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adrien
> 
> Thank you very much for your feedback as well!
> 
> I just replaced the StringField by KeywordField :-)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michael
> 
>> Am 20.10.23 um 14:13 schrieb Adrien Grand:
>> FYI there is also KeywordField, which combines StringField and 
>> SortedSetDocValuesField. It supports filtering, sorting, faceting and 
>> retrieval. It's my go-to field for string values.
>> 
>> Le ven. 20 oct. 2023, 12:20, Michael McCandless  
>> a écrit :
>> 
>>There are some differences.
>> 
>>StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you
>>can do
>>efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.
>> 
>>FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
>>(maybe?)),
>>but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
>>facet
>>counts or simple aggregations at search time.
>> 
>>FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
>>points/levels of your hierarchy.
>> 
>>Mike McCandless
>> 
>>http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>> 
>> 
>>On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner
>>
>>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have found the following simple Facet Example
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
>>>
>>> whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
>>> StringField, e.g.
>>>
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
>>>
>>> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
>>> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
>>>
>>> which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this,
>>e.g.
>>>
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
>>>
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the
>>FacetField
>>> approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
>>> Or do I misunderstand this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-23 Thread Cody Amen
Yo, a facet can be booleon or coordinate or currency,,, so maybe all your 
facets are the currency and then your fields would be an integer. And then you 
could say... i just want yen, or pesos or whatever

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> On Oct 20, 2023, at 7:05 AM, Michael Wechner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Adrien
> 
> Thank you very much for your feedback as well!
> 
> I just replaced the StringField by KeywordField :-)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Michael
> 
>> Am 20.10.23 um 14:13 schrieb Adrien Grand:
>> FYI there is also KeywordField, which combines StringField and 
>> SortedSetDocValuesField. It supports filtering, sorting, faceting and 
>> retrieval. It's my go-to field for string values.
>> 
>> Le ven. 20 oct. 2023, 12:20, Michael McCandless  
>> a écrit :
>> 
>>There are some differences.
>> 
>>StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you
>>can do
>>efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.
>> 
>>FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
>>(maybe?)),
>>but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
>>facet
>>counts or simple aggregations at search time.
>> 
>>FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
>>points/levels of your hierarchy.
>> 
>>Mike McCandless
>> 
>>http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>> 
>> 
>>On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner
>>
>>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have found the following simple Facet Example
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
>>>
>>> whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
>>> StringField, e.g.
>>>
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
>>> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
>>>
>>> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
>>> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
>>>
>>> which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this,
>>e.g.
>>>
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
>>>
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
>>> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the
>>FacetField
>>> approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
>>> Or do I misunderstand this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-23 Thread Michael Wechner

Hi Greg

Thank you very much for your additional information, really very much 
appreciated!


Yes, generally speaking I think Lucene has many great features, which 
unfortunately are not so obvious for various reasons.


Documentation could of course always be better, but I guess it is also 
because many people do not use Lucene itself, but
rather use Solr, OpenSearch, Elasticsearch, etc. and do not have to know 
what Lucene itself is offering and therefore there are
not so many people asking for these things and therefore there is not 
really an incentive to improve the documentation.


In the python world there is a huge hype re RAG / RAG-Fusion and there 
are many people writing posts and documentation, see for example


https://medium.com/@murtuza753/using-llama-2-0-faiss-and-langchain-for-question-answering-on-your-own-data-682241488476

I do not mean to say Lucene should or has to jump on this bandwagon, but 
I would argue there is definitely an evolution in search algorithms
and I think it would be nice if more people would know what Lucene has 
to offer and it would be more transparent where Lucene is heading.


But then again, it might be only me not being familiar enough with these 
things :-)


Thanks

Michael





Am 23.10.23 um 21:09 schrieb Greg Miller:

Hey Michael-

You've gotten a lot of great information here already. I'll point you to
one more implementation as well: StringValueFacetCounts. This
implementation lets you do faceting over arbitrary "string-like" doc value
fields (SORTED and SORTED_SET). So if you already have a field of this type
you're using for other purposes, and you want to do faceting over it, you
can do it with this implementation.

The faceting-specific fields (there's a taxonomy-based approach and a
non-taxonomy-based approach, both with pros/cons) are also available, which
is what you've referenced here so far (and what others have pointed you
to). These are more "managed" fields with faceting in mind.

A high-level difference here is that faceting-specific fields tend to index
all the facet fields into a single doc values field in the index, which can
make faceting more efficient. StringValueFacetCounts can be less efficient
for faceting (if you have many different fields you want to individually
facet) but could be more flexible for you if you already have these fields
in your index for other purposes and don't want to duplicate the data into
these facet-specific fields.

Not sure if these details are helpful for you or not. If any of this is a
bit unclear, let me know and I'll try to describe things better or answer
specific questions. Honestly, we probably have too many ways to do the same
thing in the faceting module, and maybe our documentation could be a bit
more helpful.

Cheers,
-Greg

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:54 PM Michael Wechner 
wrote:


thanks very much for this additional information, Marc!

Am 20.10.23 um 20:30 schrieb Marc D'Mello:

Just following up on Mike's comment:



It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support


arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.


Yeah it was fixed a year or two ago, SortedSetDocValuesFacetField

supports

hierarchical faceting, I think you just need to enable it in the
FacetsConfig. One thing to keep in mind is even though SSDV faceting
doesn't require a taxonomy index, it still requires a
SortedSetDocValuesReaderState to be maintained, which can be a little bit
expensive to create, but only needs to be done once. This benchmark code
<

https://github.com/mikemccand/luceneutil/blob/master/src/main/perf/facets/BenchmarkFacets.java

serves as a pretty basic example of SSDV/hierarchical SSDV faceting.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Wechner <

michael.wech...@wyona.com>

wrote:


cool, thank you very much!

Michael



Am 20.10.23 um 15:44 schrieb Michael McCandless:

You can use either the "doc values" implementation for facets
(SortedSetDocValuesFacetField), or the "taxonomy" implementation
(FacetField, in which case, yes, you need to create a TaxonomyWriter).

It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:03 AM Michael Wechner <

michael.wech...@wyona.com>

wrote:


Hi Mike

Thanks for your feedback!

IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to
"connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter

FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new

DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);

indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));

right?

Thanks

Michael




Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:

There are some differences.

StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can

do

efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to

retrieve.

FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing

(maybe?)),

but in 

Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-23 Thread Cody Amen
Not all of your fields might be strings

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 23, 2023, at 1:10 PM, Greg Miller  wrote:
> 
> Hey Michael-
> 
> You've gotten a lot of great information here already. I'll point you to
> one more implementation as well: StringValueFacetCounts. This
> implementation lets you do faceting over arbitrary "string-like" doc value
> fields (SORTED and SORTED_SET). So if you already have a field of this type
> you're using for other purposes, and you want to do faceting over it, you
> can do it with this implementation.
> 
> The faceting-specific fields (there's a taxonomy-based approach and a
> non-taxonomy-based approach, both with pros/cons) are also available, which
> is what you've referenced here so far (and what others have pointed you
> to). These are more "managed" fields with faceting in mind.
> 
> A high-level difference here is that faceting-specific fields tend to index
> all the facet fields into a single doc values field in the index, which can
> make faceting more efficient. StringValueFacetCounts can be less efficient
> for faceting (if you have many different fields you want to individually
> facet) but could be more flexible for you if you already have these fields
> in your index for other purposes and don't want to duplicate the data into
> these facet-specific fields.
> 
> Not sure if these details are helpful for you or not. If any of this is a
> bit unclear, let me know and I'll try to describe things better or answer
> specific questions. Honestly, we probably have too many ways to do the same
> thing in the faceting module, and maybe our documentation could be a bit
> more helpful.
> 
> Cheers,
> -Greg
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:54 PM Michael Wechner 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> thanks very much for this additional information, Marc!
>> 
>>> Am 20.10.23 um 20:30 schrieb Marc D'Mello:
>>> Just following up on Mike's comment:
>>> 
>>> 
 It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
 
>>> arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yeah it was fixed a year or two ago, SortedSetDocValuesFacetField
>> supports
>>> hierarchical faceting, I think you just need to enable it in the
>>> FacetsConfig. One thing to keep in mind is even though SSDV faceting
>>> doesn't require a taxonomy index, it still requires a
>>> SortedSetDocValuesReaderState to be maintained, which can be a little bit
>>> expensive to create, but only needs to be done once. This benchmark code
>>> <
>> https://github.com/mikemccand/luceneutil/blob/master/src/main/perf/facets/BenchmarkFacets.java
>>> 
>>> serves as a pretty basic example of SSDV/hierarchical SSDV faceting.
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Wechner <
>> michael.wech...@wyona.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 cool, thank you very much!
 
 Michael
 
 
 
 Am 20.10.23 um 15:44 schrieb Michael McCandless:
> You can use either the "doc values" implementation for facets
> (SortedSetDocValuesFacetField), or the "taxonomy" implementation
> (FacetField, in which case, yes, you need to create a TaxonomyWriter).
> 
> It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
> arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.
> 
> Mike McCandless
> 
> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:03 AM Michael Wechner <
 michael.wech...@wyona.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Mike
>> 
>> Thanks for your feedback!
>> 
>> IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to
>> "connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter
>> 
>> FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
>> DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new
 DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);
>> indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));
>> 
>> right?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:
>>> There are some differences.
>>> 
>>> StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can
>> do
>>> efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to
>> retrieve.
>>> 
>>> FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
>> (maybe?)),
>>> but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
 facet
>>> counts or simple aggregations at search time.
>>> 
>>> FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by
>> different
>>> points/levels of your hierarchy.
>>> 
>>> Mike McCandless
>>> 
>>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner <
>> michael.wech...@wyona.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi
 
 I have found the following simple Facet Example
 
 
 
 
>> 

Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-23 Thread Greg Miller
Hey Michael-

You've gotten a lot of great information here already. I'll point you to
one more implementation as well: StringValueFacetCounts. This
implementation lets you do faceting over arbitrary "string-like" doc value
fields (SORTED and SORTED_SET). So if you already have a field of this type
you're using for other purposes, and you want to do faceting over it, you
can do it with this implementation.

The faceting-specific fields (there's a taxonomy-based approach and a
non-taxonomy-based approach, both with pros/cons) are also available, which
is what you've referenced here so far (and what others have pointed you
to). These are more "managed" fields with faceting in mind.

A high-level difference here is that faceting-specific fields tend to index
all the facet fields into a single doc values field in the index, which can
make faceting more efficient. StringValueFacetCounts can be less efficient
for faceting (if you have many different fields you want to individually
facet) but could be more flexible for you if you already have these fields
in your index for other purposes and don't want to duplicate the data into
these facet-specific fields.

Not sure if these details are helpful for you or not. If any of this is a
bit unclear, let me know and I'll try to describe things better or answer
specific questions. Honestly, we probably have too many ways to do the same
thing in the faceting module, and maybe our documentation could be a bit
more helpful.

Cheers,
-Greg

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 2:54 PM Michael Wechner 
wrote:

> thanks very much for this additional information, Marc!
>
> Am 20.10.23 um 20:30 schrieb Marc D'Mello:
> > Just following up on Mike's comment:
> >
> >
> >> It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
> >>
> > arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.
> >
> >
> > Yeah it was fixed a year or two ago, SortedSetDocValuesFacetField
> supports
> > hierarchical faceting, I think you just need to enable it in the
> > FacetsConfig. One thing to keep in mind is even though SSDV faceting
> > doesn't require a taxonomy index, it still requires a
> > SortedSetDocValuesReaderState to be maintained, which can be a little bit
> > expensive to create, but only needs to be done once. This benchmark code
> > <
> https://github.com/mikemccand/luceneutil/blob/master/src/main/perf/facets/BenchmarkFacets.java
> >
> > serves as a pretty basic example of SSDV/hierarchical SSDV faceting.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Wechner <
> michael.wech...@wyona.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> cool, thank you very much!
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 20.10.23 um 15:44 schrieb Michael McCandless:
> >>> You can use either the "doc values" implementation for facets
> >>> (SortedSetDocValuesFacetField), or the "taxonomy" implementation
> >>> (FacetField, in which case, yes, you need to create a TaxonomyWriter).
> >>>
> >>> It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
> >>> arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.
> >>>
> >>> Mike McCandless
> >>>
> >>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:03 AM Michael Wechner <
> >> michael.wech...@wyona.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi Mike
> 
>  Thanks for your feedback!
> 
>  IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to
>  "connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter
> 
>  FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
>  DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new
> >> DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);
>  indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));
> 
>  right?
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:
> > There are some differences.
> >
> > StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can
> do
> > efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to
> retrieve.
> >
> > FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
>  (maybe?)),
> > but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
> >> facet
> > counts or simple aggregations at search time.
> >
> > FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by
> different
> > points/levels of your hierarchy.
> >
> > Mike McCandless
> >
> > http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner <
>  michael.wech...@wyona.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I have found the following simple Facet Example
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
> >> whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
> >> StringField, e.g.
> >>
> >> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
> >> doc1.add(new 

Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Michael Wechner

thanks very much for this additional information, Marc!

Am 20.10.23 um 20:30 schrieb Marc D'Mello:

Just following up on Mike's comment:



It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support


arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.


Yeah it was fixed a year or two ago, SortedSetDocValuesFacetField supports
hierarchical faceting, I think you just need to enable it in the
FacetsConfig. One thing to keep in mind is even though SSDV faceting
doesn't require a taxonomy index, it still requires a
SortedSetDocValuesReaderState to be maintained, which can be a little bit
expensive to create, but only needs to be done once. This benchmark code

serves as a pretty basic example of SSDV/hierarchical SSDV faceting.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Wechner 
wrote:


cool, thank you very much!

Michael



Am 20.10.23 um 15:44 schrieb Michael McCandless:

You can use either the "doc values" implementation for facets
(SortedSetDocValuesFacetField), or the "taxonomy" implementation
(FacetField, in which case, yes, you need to create a TaxonomyWriter).

It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:03 AM Michael Wechner <

michael.wech...@wyona.com>

wrote:


Hi Mike

Thanks for your feedback!

IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to
"connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter

FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new

DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);

indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));

right?

Thanks

Michael




Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:

There are some differences.

StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can do
efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.

FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing

(maybe?)),

but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute

facet

counts or simple aggregations at search time.

FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
points/levels of your hierarchy.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner <

michael.wech...@wyona.com>

wrote:


Hi

I have found the following simple Facet Example




https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java

whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
StringField, e.g.

doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))

doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));

which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this, e.g.

doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");

doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");

?

IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the FacetField
approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
Or do I misunderstand this?

Thanks

Michael



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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Marc D'Mello
Just following up on Mike's comment:


> It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
>
arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.


Yeah it was fixed a year or two ago, SortedSetDocValuesFacetField supports
hierarchical faceting, I think you just need to enable it in the
FacetsConfig. One thing to keep in mind is even though SSDV faceting
doesn't require a taxonomy index, it still requires a
SortedSetDocValuesReaderState to be maintained, which can be a little bit
expensive to create, but only needs to be done once. This benchmark code

serves as a pretty basic example of SSDV/hierarchical SSDV faceting.

On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 7:09 AM Michael Wechner 
wrote:

> cool, thank you very much!
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Am 20.10.23 um 15:44 schrieb Michael McCandless:
> > You can use either the "doc values" implementation for facets
> > (SortedSetDocValuesFacetField), or the "taxonomy" implementation
> > (FacetField, in which case, yes, you need to create a TaxonomyWriter).
> >
> > It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
> > arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.
> >
> > Mike McCandless
> >
> > http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:03 AM Michael Wechner <
> michael.wech...@wyona.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mike
> >>
> >> Thanks for your feedback!
> >>
> >> IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to
> >> "connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter
> >>
> >> FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
> >> DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new
> DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);
> >> indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));
> >>
> >> right?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:
> >>> There are some differences.
> >>>
> >>> StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can do
> >>> efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.
> >>>
> >>> FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
> >> (maybe?)),
> >>> but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
> facet
> >>> counts or simple aggregations at search time.
> >>>
> >>> FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
> >>> points/levels of your hierarchy.
> >>>
> >>> Mike McCandless
> >>>
> >>> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner <
> >> michael.wech...@wyona.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi
> 
>  I have found the following simple Facet Example
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
>  whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
>  StringField, e.g.
> 
>  doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
>  doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
>  doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
>  doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
> 
>  doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
>  doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
> 
>  which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this, e.g.
> 
>  doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
>  doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
>  doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
>  doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
> 
>  doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
>  doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
> 
>  ?
> 
>  IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the FacetField
>  approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
>  Or do I misunderstand this?
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  Michael
> 
> 
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Michael Wechner

cool, thank you very much!

Michael



Am 20.10.23 um 15:44 schrieb Michael McCandless:

You can use either the "doc values" implementation for facets
(SortedSetDocValuesFacetField), or the "taxonomy" implementation
(FacetField, in which case, yes, you need to create a TaxonomyWriter).

It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:03 AM Michael Wechner 
wrote:


Hi Mike

Thanks for your feedback!

IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to
"connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter

FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);
indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));

right?

Thanks

Michael




Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:

There are some differences.

StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can do
efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.

FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing

(maybe?)),

but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute facet
counts or simple aggregations at search time.

FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
points/levels of your hierarchy.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner <

michael.wech...@wyona.com>

wrote:


Hi

I have found the following simple Facet Example




https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java

whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
StringField, e.g.

doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))

doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));

which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this, e.g.

doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");

doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");

?

IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the FacetField
approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
Or do I misunderstand this?

Thanks

Michael



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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Michael McCandless
You can use either the "doc values" implementation for facets
(SortedSetDocValuesFacetField), or the "taxonomy" implementation
(FacetField, in which case, yes, you need to create a TaxonomyWriter).

It used to be that the "doc values" based faceting did not support
arbitrary hierarchy, but I think that was fixed at some point.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 9:03 AM Michael Wechner 
wrote:

> Hi Mike
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
>
> IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to
> "connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter
>
> FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
> DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);
> indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));
>
> right?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:
> > There are some differences.
> >
> > StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can do
> > efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.
> >
> > FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
> (maybe?)),
> > but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute facet
> > counts or simple aggregations at search time.
> >
> > FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
> > points/levels of your hierarchy.
> >
> > Mike McCandless
> >
> > http://blog.mikemccandless.com
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner <
> michael.wech...@wyona.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I have found the following simple Facet Example
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
> >>
> >> whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
> >> StringField, e.g.
> >>
> >> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
> >> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
> >> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
> >> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
> >>
> >> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
> >> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
> >>
> >> which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this, e.g.
> >>
> >> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
> >> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
> >> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
> >> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
> >>
> >> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
> >> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >> IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the FacetField
> >> approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
> >> Or do I misunderstand this?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Michael Wechner

Hi Adrien

Thank you very much for your feedback as well!

I just replaced the StringField by KeywordField :-)

Thanks

Michael

Am 20.10.23 um 14:13 schrieb Adrien Grand:
FYI there is also KeywordField, which combines StringField and 
SortedSetDocValuesField. It supports filtering, sorting, faceting and 
retrieval. It's my go-to field for string values.


Le ven. 20 oct. 2023, 12:20, Michael McCandless 
 a écrit :


There are some differences.

StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you
can do
efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.

FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing
(maybe?)),
but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute
facet
counts or simple aggregations at search time.

FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
points/levels of your hierarchy.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner

wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have found the following simple Facet Example
>
>
>

https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
>
> whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
> StringField, e.g.
>
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
>
> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
>
> which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this,
e.g.
>
> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
>
> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
>
> ?
>
> IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the
FacetField
> approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
> Or do I misunderstand this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Michael Wechner

Hi Mike

Thanks for your feedback!

IIUC in order to have the actual advantages of Facets one has to 
"connect" it with a TaxonomyWriter


FacetsConfig config = new FacetsConfig();
DirectoryTaxonomyWriter taxoWriter = new DirectoryTaxonomyWriter(taxoDir);
indexWriter.addDocument(config.build(taxoWriter, doc));

right?

Thanks

Michael




Am 20.10.23 um 12:19 schrieb Michael McCandless:

There are some differences.

StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can do
efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.

FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing (maybe?)),
but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute facet
counts or simple aggregations at search time.

FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
points/levels of your hierarchy.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner 
wrote:


Hi

I have found the following simple Facet Example


https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java

whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
StringField, e.g.

doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))

doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));

which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this, e.g.

doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");

doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");

?

IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the FacetField
approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
Or do I misunderstand this?

Thanks

Michael



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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Adrien Grand
FYI there is also KeywordField, which combines StringField and
SortedSetDocValuesField. It supports filtering, sorting, faceting and
retrieval. It's my go-to field for string values.

Le ven. 20 oct. 2023, 12:20, Michael McCandless 
a écrit :

> There are some differences.
>
> StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can do
> efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.
>
> FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing (maybe?)),
> but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute facet
> counts or simple aggregations at search time.
>
> FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
> points/levels of your hierarchy.
>
> Mike McCandless
>
> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I have found the following simple Facet Example
> >
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
> >
> > whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
> > StringField, e.g.
> >
> > doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
> > doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
> > doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
> > doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
> >
> > doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
> > doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
> >
> > which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this, e.g.
> >
> > doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
> > doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
> > doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
> > doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
> >
> > doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
> > doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
> >
> > ?
> >
> > IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the FacetField
> > approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
> > Or do I misunderstand this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
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Re: When to use StringField and when to use FacetField for categorization?

2023-10-20 Thread Michael McCandless
There are some differences.

StringField is indexed into the inverted index (postings) so you can do
efficient filtering.  You can also store in stored fields to retrieve.

FacetField does everything StringField does (filtering, storing (maybe?)),
but in addition it stores data for faceting.  I.e. you can compute facet
counts or simple aggregations at search time.

FacetField is also hierarchical: you can filter and facet by different
points/levels of your hierarchy.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Fri, Oct 20, 2023 at 5:43 AM Michael Wechner 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I have found the following simple Facet Example
>
>
> https://github.com/apache/lucene/blob/main/lucene/demo/src/java/org/apache/lucene/demo/facet/SimpleFacetsExample.java
>
> whereas for a simple categorization of documents I currently use
> StringField, e.g.
>
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "book"));
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "quantum_physics"));
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Neumann"))
> doc1.add(new StringField("category", "Wheeler"))
>
> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "magazine"));
> doc2.add(new StringField("category", "astro_physics"));
>
> which works well, but would it be better to use Facets for this, e.g.
>
> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "book"));
> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "quantum");
> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Neumann");
> doc1.add(new FacetField("author", "Wheeler");
>
> doc1.add(new FacetField("media-type", "magazine"));
> doc1.add(new FacetField("topic", "physics", "astro");
>
> ?
>
> IIUC the StringField approach is more general, whereas the FacetField
> approach allows to do a more specific categorization / search.
> Or do I misunderstand this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
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