date:20080724

We can end this thread now because Rick has already given that guy the boot, 
so he is no longer on here at all.
David Ferrin
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- Original Message - 
From: Chrissy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 hm, is that not the point when joing any list, that it has traffic?
 And in any list with computer issues you will have all kinds of ppl some
 with more skills than others. that is what those discussions are for in 
 the
 first place. that people who know more about a topic can assist and help 
 the
 ones just starting out.
 Take a chill pill and spell check.
 take care chrissy


 - Original Message - 
 From: Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 well no offence but this is a really high traffic list and i'm getting 
 RSI
 from hitting the delete key.
 maybe they should have a jaws users with no bloody common sence list?
 would save me and my delete key a lot of hastle.
 but failing that, i'm leeving if i can work out how.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 shame on you for wanting to leave?

 - Original Message - 
 From: Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:55 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 how do i get off this list? i unsubscribed twice and it's ignoring me.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


I guess to each his own method of installing. I just thought I was
missin'
 some key info here,lol

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Because they're lazy and don't want to grab the cd, when they could
 get
 it
 with a few keypresses! lol! Joking, of course.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


I really would like to know why you suggested to download it off Fs 
if
one
 had the cd available, am I missing something obvious here??

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Then use it for the initial install and then check for any updates.
 David Ferrin
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Now why would I do that since I have the cd replacement sitting
 here?

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 That sounds like a plan unless you go and download the full
 version
 from
 Freedom Scientific directly.
 David Ferrin
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:34 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


I was wondering do I have to install Jaws 9 from the cd first
before
I
 install the update for this version?

 Thanks,

 Patricia


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop

This is a good message, but the subject line needs a little work. 
Congratulations on the new lap top.
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From: Andrew Head [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jaws users list JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:20 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop

 Hi all,
 A few weeks ago, I was given a new laptop for my birthday. I have 2 
 laptops,
 one for school and the new one.
 the school one (which I am using now) runs xp professional, and office 
 2003.
 The new laptop runs a trial version of office 2007 and windows vista home
 premium. I have loaded my schools copy of jaws on the computer and it acts
 as a temporary demo until I buy my own copy.
 I am trying to decide whether or not to switch back to XP and if possible,
 office 2003. My family have windows xp pro on a cd, so that part is easy,
 just not sure if we have a copy of office 2003 as well.
 I have also downloaded jaws basic training material on office 2007 and
 vista.
 I am just wondering if people who use vista out here would tell me their
 experiences please. the same with office 2007. I feel very lost on the
 computer at the moment.
 also, for some strange reason, the keystroke alt F4 doesn't always work,
 which is obviously really annoying! especially when I have to shut down 
 the
 computer quickly before I loose speech at the end of the demo time with
 jaws.

 any help and information people can provide will be greatly appreciated. 
 you
 can write to me off list to save traffic if you prefer.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop

2008-07-24 Thread David Finley

Hi, Andrew.

Dave here.

Personally, my expirences with Windows Vista have been absolutely horrid, 
mostly with program incompatibility issues, and hardware just not working 
with it.  It did not like JAWS of any version, and for the month I had it, 
it was a non stop headache of one problem after another, including hardware 
crashes, program crashes, and a total inability to use my computer at all.

I finally got fed up with it, and had my rehab officer send my machine back 
to Dell, and had XP SP3 put back on it. I just got it back a few weeks ago, 
and have had no problems at all since. And since my machine is a Dell Vostro 
1500 with 2 GB of ram, a Intel Dual core processor, and a 145 GB hard drive, 
that was originally desinged to handle the rigors of Vista, XP SP3  runs on 
it like a top.

Imho, I would drop Vista like a hot potato, and go back to XP.

--
From: Andrew Head [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:20 AM
To: Jaws users list JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop

 Hi all,
 A few weeks ago, I was given a new laptop for my birthday. I have 2 
 laptops,
 one for school and the new one.
 the school one (which I am using now) runs xp professional, and office 
 2003.
 The new laptop runs a trial version of office 2007 and windows vista home
 premium. I have loaded my schools copy of jaws on the computer and it acts
 as a temporary demo until I buy my own copy.
 I am trying to decide whether or not to switch back to XP and if possible,
 office 2003. My family have windows xp pro on a cd, so that part is easy,
 just not sure if we have a copy of office 2003 as well.
 I have also downloaded jaws basic training material on office 2007 and
 vista.
 I am just wondering if people who use vista out here would tell me their
 experiences please. the same with office 2007. I feel very lost on the
 computer at the moment.
 also, for some strange reason, the keystroke alt F4 doesn't always work,
 which is obviously really annoying! especially when I have to shut down 
 the
 computer quickly before I loose speech at the end of the demo time with
 jaws.

 any help and information people can provide will be greatly appreciated. 
 you
 can write to me off list to save traffic if you prefer.
 to write to me off list, send email to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 kind regards,
 from Andrew


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[JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

I'm using a laptop with Vista, Office 2007 and JAWS 9
I also use a desktop with XP, Office 2007 and JAWS 9

On the laptop I have noticed an occasional problem with the Alt F4
combination not working. It's a little irritating, but There are other
ways around it that are quite quick. Shutting down the computer can be
done with the Windows Key to open the main menu, then pressing U to get
to the shut down menu.

Vista and Office 2007 have some significant changes, and if you are new
to them they can be rather frustrating.
Remember that many of the key strokes you used in previous versions of
Office still work in 2007.
Alt O and then F brings you to the Font menu.
Alt T and then S opens the spell checker.

I stayed with XP on my desk top because of familiarity, but i have come
to really like Office 2007.
I recommend that those who are new to Office 2007 take some time, when
they don't have to get something done and explore.
The menus are different, and you just have to learn a few new ways of
getting to things.
Alt P brings you to the Page menu and then you can tab through the
various options there.
As you do, take note of the actions you use, and record them on a
separate cheat sheet that you can go back to quickly for reference.
Eventually you will learn the key strokes and you won't need the cheat
sheet as much.
The menu's on the top of the screen have different names. But if you go
to the Page menu, for example, you can arrow across to the other menus,
learn their names and tab through the options under them
The Home menu, for example, contains the old Edit menu items. There is a
Mailing Tab where you will find the envelope and label options, instead
of under the old Tool menu.
I think Office 2007 is doable for us since Microsoft has made virtually
everything accessible for us.
Blessings,
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[JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

I can understand that you might want to drop Vista if you have had that
many problems, but not all of us have those kind of issues with Vista.
It's a new OS and It's not surprising that some of us have issues and
that we run into glitches.
But I wouldn't throw out Vista because of minor problems, and I think I
heard that is where this original thread started.
Vista requires some time to learn, as does Office 2007, but unless Vista
gets scrapped, we are all going to have to deal with it in the years
ahead.
So my recommendation is that we make a distinction between major problems
and the minor glitches,
Distinguish between problems that make Vista useless and those that need
to patiently follow the learning curve.
Blessings,
Tom
 
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Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:13:52 -0700
From: David Finley 
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop
To: 
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Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original 
 
Hi, Andrew. 
 
Dave here. 
 
Personally, my expirences with Windows Vista have been absolutely horrid,

mostly with program incompatibility issues, and hardware just not working

with it.  It did not like JAWS of any version, and for the month I had
it, 
it was a non stop headache of one problem after another, including
hardware 
crashes, program crashes, and a total inability to use my computer at
all. 
 
I finally got fed up with it, and had my rehab officer send my machine
back 
to Dell, and had XP SP3 put back on it. I just got it back a few weeks
ago, 
and have had no problems at all since. And since my machine is a Dell
Vostro 
1500 with 2 GB of ram, a Intel Dual core processor, and a 145 GB hard
drive, 
that was originally desinged to handle the rigors of Vista, XP SP3  runs
on 
it like a top. 
 
Imho, I would drop Vista like a hot potato, and go back to XP. 
 

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[JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

David,
I'm sorry that you had all the problems you did with Vista.  If I were in
your shoes, I would have made the same switch.
It's puzzling, isn't it, that Vista can work well for some users, and be
the pits for others?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

2008-07-24 Thread Denny Huff

Tom,

I totally agree with you.  I have been using Vista for over a year now and I
love it!
There were some minor issues at first, but once the manufacturers of some
hardware products provided the drivers for Vista, it works great.  I love
the way Vista automatically does a lot of the work for you especially in
recognizing networks and the installation of hardware and software.  It has
become a great operating system, but this is only my opinion.


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of First CRC Tom
Vos
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 9:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

I can understand that you might want to drop Vista if you have had that many
problems, but not all of us have those kind of issues with Vista.
It's a new OS and It's not surprising that some of us have issues and that
we run into glitches.
But I wouldn't throw out Vista because of minor problems, and I think I
heard that is where this original thread started.
Vista requires some time to learn, as does Office 2007, but unless Vista
gets scrapped, we are all going to have to deal with it in the years ahead.
So my recommendation is that we make a distinction between major problems
and the minor glitches, Distinguish between problems that make Vista useless
and those that need to patiently follow the learning curve.
Blessings,
Tom
 
Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:13:52 -0700
From: David Finley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop
To: 
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original 
 
Hi, Andrew. 
 
Dave here. 
 
Personally, my expirences with Windows Vista have been absolutely horrid,

mostly with program incompatibility issues, and hardware just not working

with it.  It did not like JAWS of any version, and for the month I had it,
it was a non stop headache of one problem after another, including hardware
crashes, program crashes, and a total inability to use my computer at all. 
 
I finally got fed up with it, and had my rehab officer send my machine back
to Dell, and had XP SP3 put back on it. I just got it back a few weeks ago,
and have had no problems at all since. And since my machine is a Dell Vostro
1500 with 2 GB of ram, a Intel Dual core processor, and a 145 GB hard drive,
that was originally desinged to handle the rigors of Vista, XP SP3  runs on
it like a top. 
 
Imho, I would drop Vista like a hot potato, and go back to XP. 
 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws

2008-07-24 Thread Maria Campbell

I didn't think that happened to the big moderators.
Grin.


Sunny Day
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my faintheartedness to Your boldness,
my fear to Your faith.
Then nothing can stop me.


- Original Message - 
From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 And to get my attention after I posted this message the Jaws Gods crashed 
 my
 system to show their displeasure at my speaking badly of jaws.

 Rick
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 You're fortunate then.  I have had instances of  jaws crashing and messing
 up the keyboard intercept and the sound to where no other screen reader
 would work.  Doesn't happen a lot but it does happen.  Only recourse here 
 is
 a reboot.

 Rick
 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 nah, that don't happen...
 well not for me knock knock I'm knocking on my desk here...

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 It won't necessarily work either in some cases if Jaws clobbers things
 good.

 Rick

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 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 oh really, hmmm. I thought Fs always recommended to have an extra older
 version in the event something happened to cause one of them to stop
 working?

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 Personal choice, currently I have version 9 and that's all.
 David Ferrin
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:41 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 How many versions should one keep on one's computer of Jaws and
 should/should not??

 Currently, I have only version 8. I just removed the Jaws 7.01. Now 
 I'll
 install the jaws 9 and then the current update for it only because of
 that
 AVG 8 otherwise I would stay put as I'm content with jaws 8..

 Thanks,

 Patricia


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question

2008-07-24 Thread Hannah Day

HI

I not sure if this problem still persists but if it does with the latest 
jaws here i addvise you to uninstall and get avast  hope that helps



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 Hi all.
 When I installed AVG 8, jaws now does not run at start up even though it 
 is checked to run..
 Is anyone else having this problem?
 And is there a way to fix it/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop

2008-07-24 Thread Rick Harmon

I've ran Vista here on 2 computers for over a year now and must say I've not 
had hardly any problems with Vista. Your case is rare.  I'm sorry that you 
had such a bad time with Vista.

Rick
- Original Message - 
From: David Finley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop

 Hi, Andrew.

 Dave here.

 Personally, my expirences with Windows Vista have been absolutely horrid,
 mostly with program incompatibility issues, and hardware just not working
 with it.  It did not like JAWS of any version, and for the month I had it,
 it was a non stop headache of one problem after another, including 
 hardware
 crashes, program crashes, and a total inability to use my computer at all.

 I finally got fed up with it, and had my rehab officer send my machine 
 back
 to Dell, and had XP SP3 put back on it. I just got it back a few weeks 
 ago,
 and have had no problems at all since. And since my machine is a Dell 
 Vostro
 1500 with 2 GB of ram, a Intel Dual core processor, and a 145 GB hard 
 drive,
 that was originally desinged to handle the rigors of Vista, XP SP3  runs 
 on
 it like a top.

 Imho, I would drop Vista like a hot potato, and go back to XP.

 --
 From: Andrew Head [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:20 AM
 To: Jaws users list JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] I have a new laptop

 Hi all,
 A few weeks ago, I was given a new laptop for my birthday. I have 2
 laptops,
 one for school and the new one.
 the school one (which I am using now) runs xp professional, and office
 2003.
 The new laptop runs a trial version of office 2007 and windows vista home
 premium. I have loaded my schools copy of jaws on the computer and it 
 acts
 as a temporary demo until I buy my own copy.
 I am trying to decide whether or not to switch back to XP and if 
 possible,
 office 2003. My family have windows xp pro on a cd, so that part is easy,
 just not sure if we have a copy of office 2003 as well.
 I have also downloaded jaws basic training material on office 2007 and
 vista.
 I am just wondering if people who use vista out here would tell me their
 experiences please. the same with office 2007. I feel very lost on the
 computer at the moment.
 also, for some strange reason, the keystroke alt F4 doesn't always work,
 which is obviously really annoying! especially when I have to shut down
 the
 computer quickly before I loose speech at the end of the demo time with
 jaws.

 any help and information people can provide will be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

2008-07-24 Thread Rick Harmon

As I said this is extremely rare to happen.  I'd say more likely your 
machine wasn't all that Vista ready as Dell claimed it to be.

Rick
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

 The list of minor glitches I had with Vista (On a brand new machine)

 Constant JAWS 9.0 installition failure. Program would install, but not 
 boot
 up after install. Gave up after at least 10 attempts.

 External hardware failures too numberous to mention here, such as not
 reconizing external drives, modems, my pac-mate, memory sticks and so on.
 CD/DVD drive failures, both internal and external, all on a brand new
 machine. Replaced existing copy of Vista several times.  Same malfunctions
 persisted with replacement copies.

 All of this on a brand spanking new dual core powerhouse.  Finally gave 
 up,
 and reverted back to XP SP3. All afornentioned problens went away, and did
 not return.

 So for now, I'm sticking with XP.

 --
 From: First CRC Tom Vos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: [JAWS-Users] RE I have a new laptop

 I can understand that you might want to drop Vista if you have had that
 many problems, but not all of us have those kind of issues with Vista.
 It's a new OS and It's not surprising that some of us have issues and
 that we run into glitches.
 But I wouldn't throw out Vista because of minor problems, and I think I
 heard that is where this original thread started.
 Vista requires some time to learn, as does Office 2007, but unless Vista
 gets scrapped, we are all going to have to deal with it in the years
 ahead.
 So my recommendation is that we make a distinction between major problems
 and the minor glitches,
 Distinguish between problems that make Vista useless and those that need
 to patiently follow the learning curve.
 Blessings,
 Tom

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 Hi, Andrew.

 Dave here.

 Personally, my expirences with Windows Vista have been absolutely horrid,

 mostly with program incompatibility issues, and hardware just not working

 with it.  It did not like JAWS of any version, and for the month I had
 it,
 it was a non stop headache of one problem after another, including
 hardware
 crashes, program crashes, and a total inability to use my computer at
 all.

 I finally got fed up with it, and had my rehab officer send my machine
 back
 to Dell, and had XP SP3 put back on it. I just got it back a few weeks
 ago,
 and have had no problems at all since. And since my machine is a Dell
 Vostro
 1500 with 2 GB of ram, a Intel Dual core processor, and a 145 GB hard
 drive,
 that was originally desinged to handle the rigors of Vista, XP SP3  runs
 on
 it like a top.

 Imho, I would drop Vista like a hot potato, and go back to XP.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Aloud

2008-07-24 Thread Lennie Rinaldi

Hi John,

Thanks so very much for your detailed answer. It is most helpful. 
Funny that the software was originally written for sighted people, 
but it is terrific for us blind folks.

Lennie

At 10:42 PM 7/23/2008, you wrote:
Lenny, there are 2 basic commands for making Text Aloud read a document.
But first, you have to display the document on the screen.  You can do that
by copying the document to your clipboard and then pasting it into the text
field on Text Aloud's primary screen.
  You can also call up a file by using the standard file management commands
available under the Alt F  menu.

READ A DOCUMENT, CONTROL F3
STOP READING, CONTROL F8:


You will need Jaws to navigate the menus Lenny, especially at first.  You
have to choose your default voice, set the reading speed and so on.
Once you have everything set up, use Insert F4 to turn Jaws off.  Then, use
Control F3 to begin reading.
The Jaws cursor is very helpful in navigating through the On Screen options
such as reading tempo and so on.  Once you are familiar with Text Aloud, you
can use some of the hotkeys which are built in.  There are controls which
will adjust the speed and volume of the reading on the fly.  They are all in
a document which is part of the Jaws Support system.
Believe it or not Lenny, this thing wasn't designed for the blind.  It was
created as a study aid for sighted people who needed to read their documents
while doing something else like driving.
Can you imagine  riding in your car and listening to a pleasant voice
reading your own work back to you?
That, to me at least, is incredible.

Learning to use this tool takes some doing Lenny.  There is a lot of help
right in the Text Aloud Help file.  To get an idea of some of the other
controls, press the Alt  key and move to the Voice option.  Then down arrow
and listen to what there is to offer.
Once you have become familiar with Text Aloud, you could even use the Sleep
Mode in Jaws and turn it off as soon as Text Aloud is opened.  Lenny, I
absolutely do not recommend this procedure.  There is simply too much in
Text Aloud which doesn't speak without a screen reader.
I hope this helps.

John Justice
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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Aloud


  Hi John,
 
  Thanks for your input on Text aloud. Your information has helped me
  greatly.
 
  One question though. How do you get around the problem of both Jaws
  and Text Aloud speaking simultaneously? That is the one thing that I
  was concerned about.
 
  Again, thanks for your help.
 
  Lennie
 
  At 03:04 PM 7/20/2008, you wrote:
 Lenny.  John Justice here.
 I use Text Aloud with ATT  voices all of the time.  My favorite is
 Crystal
 16.  When you choose the voice to read the document,  Text Aloud will take
 you through the choices in all of your SAPIoptions.  You can get
 everything from Microsoft Mary and Mike right up to the latest ATT
 entries as long as they are loaded correctly in your system and Text Aloud
 can find them.
 Some voices use SAPI  4 in lieu of SAPI  5 but not many.
 
 In my opinion, based on personal experience, Text Aloud is one of the most
 effective and useful programs I have ever worked with.  As for involvement
 with Jaws, you can get a situation where Text Aloud and Jaws will read the
 same document simultaneously.  But that can easily be corrected.
 
 John Justice
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 Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 2:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Text Aloud
 
 
   Hi Annette,
  
   I want to use Text Aloud to create MP3 from a Word document. I would
   not use it to take the place of Jaws.
  
   I created a document that I wanted to record with GoldWave using a
   microphone, but I suspect that the quality of the recording would be
   poor.
  
   I hope that explains why I am interested in Text Aloud.
  
   As David and others pointed out, he have used it for several years
   with Sapi 5 voices. I am wondering why ATT voices would not be
   better than Sapi 5? I have heard sample of ATT voices and in my
   opinion, I thought that they sounded more realistic.
  
   David, any comments on ATT voices?
  
   Thanks for all for replying. I appreciat your help.
  
   Lennie
  
   At 10:00 AM 7/20/2008, you wrote:
  Is there a feature in Text Aloud that is not in JAWS?  Why are you
  looking
  at using the 2 programs at the same time.
  
  In my experience with some other text to speech programs that are not
  intended for use by a blind user, JAWS and the ATT voices did not play
  well
  together.
  
  Annette
  
  
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  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Text Aloud
  
  Hello all,
  
  Does anyone know if Text Aloud

Re: [JAWS-Users] GoldWave question

2008-07-24 Thread Lennie Rinaldi

Hi Rachel,

As was mentioned, you can set up the default to save your recording 
in MP3 format.

Personally, when I do a recording, particularly a large file, I save 
it as a WAV file. The reason for this is that GoldWave can be 
accessed and saved quicker in this format.

If you save the recording in MP3, and you need to do some editing, 
the retrieval has to convert the file to WAV first and then convert 
it back to MP3 when saving it.

When I have the finished product, then I will convert it to MP3 and 
delete the WAV file.

It is a matter of personal choice. HTH,

Lennie
At 10:57 PM 7/23/2008, you wrote:
So does GoldWave records wave files as it comes from the tape and then I
have to convert in MP3? Or is there a way to make the file be MP3 as it is
grabbing the sound from the tape?

Thanks, and sorry for the ignorance  in case it is a obvious answer!
Rachel

Thanks,
Rachel.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Audio grabber or a software that does the same.


  Hi Rachel,
 
  As David pointed out, GoldWave is a very friendly software to use to
  record tape and LP. It is more accessible when you use Jaws scripts
  with it. The scripts can be downloaded from the Jaws Users script
  page. The URL is below:
 
  http://www.jaws-users.com/JAWS/scripts/
 
  There are very good tutorial in using GoldWave by Rick Harmon. You
  can visit his web site at:
 
  http://www.blind-geek-zone.net/
 
  The only trick to recording tapes and LPs is setting the proper
  volume level without causing distortion.
 
  HTH,
 
  Lennie
 
  At 11:44 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote:
 Hello Listers,
 
 I was trying to use audio grabber in order to digitize some of my
 tapes and LP through my in line on my sound card, and I saw in the
 archives of this list about audio grabber, but it said I had to buy
 it. However, I could not find how to buy the product,  Has anyone
 used it or know another product that would convert immediately to
 MP3 as it records and fully accessible with Jaws?
 Thanks for any pointers,
 Rachel
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws

lol mine was running 98 second edition. I also had a laptop that I just sold 
not to long ago for about $2, that's probably all it's worth lol. It had 
41mb ram, a 1.97gb hard disk, win98FE, and a jaws demo. It only had 26mb 
free when I sold it.


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 sounds like my old Gateway with win/98. This one now sometimes is so quite 
 I
 have to open the door and listen to see if it's running..

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 Ah, I used 3.7 once, at school, it was the latest they had (although I
 think
 fs had released jaws 5.) I actually started out with 4.0 on a terrible,
 just
 about to die pc that you could hear from another room, and the hard drive
 would spin up very loudly. But back then I knew nothing about computers
 so...


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 wow. I started with jaws 3.7.

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:49 PM
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 Hi,

 It doesn't matter how many you have, you could have every version from
 3.0
 or whatever the first windows version was and jaws 9 would still work
 great.
 On my old pc I still have jaws 4.51 demo, it was once fully licensed,
 but
 someone installed windows xp pro over win98...
 gur'r'hr'hr'hr'hrrurh'r'rh'hrrhlrlrlbbrlrblrbrlb!

 HTH.
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 Yeh I know that, I will have the same as well as the 9 update. After
 that
 who knows..

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 Patricia, from what others have posted in the past, you don't have to
 keep
 any as long as you keep shared components.  I still have 8 on my
 computer
 as
 well as v. 9.  It doesn't hurt anything.  marilyn


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws

lol.


- Original Message - 
From: kk. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


I actually don't know how I did that. It kind of just appeared like in
 outlook express I keep getting error messages but there's no error.So what
 gremlins have jaws got eh?kk.
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 Hey, cool! How did you do that??? And, wisperring, I'm thinking of
 scrppping
 jaws and just using NVDA, so the jaws gods can't hurt me,
 hahahahhahahahahah!


 - Original Message - 
 From: kk. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 Yes we have to be nice to jaws don't we? could you tell me why I've got
 two
 different voices on my computer? when I'm typing I've got an American
 telling me what I've written, but when I read the email back, it's a
 British
 voice.  Well well well we did fight side by side in the war didn't
 we?hehehehehehehehe.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Harmon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:49 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 And to get my attention after I posted this message the Jaws Gods
 crashed
 my
 system to show their displeasure at my speaking badly of jaws.

 Rick
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 You're fortunate then.  I have had instances of  jaws crashing and
 messing
 up the keyboard intercept and the sound to where no other screen reader
 would work.  Doesn't happen a lot but it does happen.  Only recourse
 here
 is
 a reboot.

 Rick
 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 nah, that don't happen...
 well not for me knock knock I'm knocking on my desk here...

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 It won't necessarily work either in some cases if Jaws clobbers things
 good.

 Rick

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 oh really, hmmm. I thought Fs always recommended to have an extra 
 older
 version in the event something happened to cause one of them to stop
 working?

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 Personal choice, currently I have version 9 and that's all.
 David Ferrin
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:41 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Multiple Versions of Jaws


 How many versions should one keep on one's computer of Jaws and
 should/should not??

 Currently, I have only version 8. I just removed the Jaws 7.01. Now
 I'll
 install the jaws 9 and then the current update for it only because 
 of
 that
 AVG 8 otherwise I would stay put as I'm content with jaws 8..

 Thanks,

 Patricia


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[JAWS-Users] RE Vista Malfunctions

I wonder if Vista will become the OS of the future.
Was it Windows ME that was a flop?
As with many things in life, time will tell if Vista survives and becomes
widely adopted in the business worl.
Blessings,
Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve

There are several ways to get off this wonderful list, but I'm not sure why 
you'd want to do that. Send an email to 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe in the subject. Or, 
go to jaws-users.com, click the link for info and form for the list, enter 
your email address in the last field, and hit enter. You should see a field 
for your password, if you don't know it click remind me and enter the 
password it emails you, then login. There should be an unsubscribe option 
there, there's also an option to suspend mail delivery if your going on 
vacation, or want to keep your subscription for later.

HTH!
- Original Message - 
From: Badger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 how do i get off this list? i unsubscribed twice and it's ignoring me.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


I guess to each his own method of installing. I just thought I was missin'
 some key info here,lol

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Because they're lazy and don't want to grab the cd, when they could get
 it
 with a few keypresses! lol! Joking, of course.


 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


I really would like to know why you suggested to download it off Fs if
one
 had the cd available, am I missing something obvious here??

 - Original Message - 
 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Then use it for the initial install and then check for any updates.
 David Ferrin
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 From: Patricia Dunbar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Now why would I do that since I have the cd replacement sitting here?

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 That sounds like a plan unless you go and download the full version
 from
 Freedom Scientific directly.
 David Ferrin
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 2:34 PM
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I was wondering do I have to install Jaws 9 from the cd first before
I
 install the update for this version?

 Thanks,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve

Yeah, crying face.


- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 We can end this thread now because Rick has already given that guy the 
 boot,
 so he is no longer on here at all.
 David Ferrin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: Chrissy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 hm, is that not the point when joing any list, that it has traffic?
 And in any list with computer issues you will have all kinds of ppl some
 with more skills than others. that is what those discussions are for in
 the
 first place. that people who know more about a topic can assist and help
 the
 ones just starting out.
 Take a chill pill and spell check.
 take care chrissy


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 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 4:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i leeve


 well no offence but this is a really high traffic list and i'm getting
 RSI
 from hitting the delete key.
 maybe they should have a jaws users with no bloody common sence list?
 would save me and my delete key a lot of hastle.
 but failing that, i'm leeving if i can work out how.


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 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:00 AM
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 shame on you for wanting to leave?

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:55 PM
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 how do i get off this list? i unsubscribed twice and it's ignoring me.

 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 2:51 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


I guess to each his own method of installing. I just thought I was
missin'
 some key info here,lol

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Because they're lazy and don't want to grab the cd, when they could
 get
 it
 with a few keypresses! lol! Joking, of course.


 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


I really would like to know why you suggested to download it off Fs
if
one
 had the cd available, am I missing something obvious here??

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 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 Then use it for the initial install and then check for any 
 updates.
 David Ferrin
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 Now why would I do that since I have the cd replacement sitting
 here?

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 1:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 9 Update


 That sounds like a plan unless you go and download the full
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 from
 Freedom Scientific directly.
 David Ferrin
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I was wondering do I have to install Jaws 9 from the cd first
before
I
 install the update for this version?

 Thanks,

 Patricia


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question

Hi,

If it's the internet security version, maybe the firewall is blocking it? 
Grab a sighted friend and see if you have a firewall dialog.

HTH. I used to have the trial of internet security 8 on my old desktop.


- Original Message - 
From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws question


 Hi all.
 When I installed AVG 8, jaws now does not run at start up even though it 
 is checked to run..
 Is anyone else having this problem?
 And is there a way to fix it/
 Christy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

Yep.
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

Yeah it has great antispyware, link scanner and some other things. But the 
link scanner only works on search results in the free version.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Is AVG 8 (free version) basically the same as the 7.5 was or does it 
 contain
 anti spyware etc

 Al

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 Oh well, can't think of anything else then. Sorry.

 --
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 ah figured.. nope I won't change things.
 Besies Avast  I heard some horrible thing about it.

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 Hi, with the latest build of JAWS 9 yes. If not, give Avast a try.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

Hi,

free.grisoft.com.

HTH!
- Original Message - 
From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:00 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi all.
 Where can I get the free edition for AVG 8?
 I have seen it when the notify dialog had come up but no where to download
 it.
 Perhaps I've missed it?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 Hi,

 Open the AVG user interface, which you can get to by pressing enter on 
 the
 icon in the system tray. For AVG 8, go to tools, advanced settings. You
 should be in a tree view, go down until you here schedules and hit right
 arrow, then down arrow. I think there's a scan schedule option. Now tab
 and
 select your time. Note: you can not have AVG scan every, say, 4 hours or
 so,
 this is a pay thing.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David La Caille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 hi all.
 i would like some help with AVG.
 when i turn on my computer AVG go in to skan mode.
 i doe want that to happen, i would like to skan whenb i want to .
 how can i turn this off?
 thanks.

 David
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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

2008-07-24 Thread kk.

Hi can someone actually tell me how long we are going to have to get rid of 
windows xp and go on to Vista? Iam just wondering because when microsoft 
stop supporting xp then I'll be in trouble yes?kk.
- Original Message - 
From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi,

 free.grisoft.com.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi all.
 Where can I get the free edition for AVG 8?
 I have seen it when the notify dialog had come up but no where to 
 download
 it.
 Perhaps I've missed it?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 Hi,

 Open the AVG user interface, which you can get to by pressing enter on
 the
 icon in the system tray. For AVG 8, go to tools, advanced settings. You
 should be in a tree view, go down until you here schedules and hit right
 arrow, then down arrow. I think there's a scan schedule option. Now tab
 and
 select your time. Note: you can not have AVG scan every, say, 4 hours or
 so,
 this is a pay thing.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David La Caille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 hi all.
 i would like some help with AVG.
 when i turn on my computer AVG go in to skan mode.
 i doe want that to happen, i would like to skan whenb i want to .
 how can i turn this off?
 thanks.

 David
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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

According to Smart Computing for June 2008 Microsoft will stop supporting XP 
in 2009. Personally this is news of the unwelcome kind.
David Ferrin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: kk. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi can someone actually tell me how long we are going to have to get rid 
 of
 windows xp and go on to Vista? Iam just wondering because when microsoft
 stop supporting xp then I'll be in trouble yes?kk.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi,

 free.grisoft.com.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi all.
 Where can I get the free edition for AVG 8?
 I have seen it when the notify dialog had come up but no where to
 download
 it.
 Perhaps I've missed it?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 Hi,

 Open the AVG user interface, which you can get to by pressing enter on
 the
 icon in the system tray. For AVG 8, go to tools, advanced settings. You
 should be in a tree view, go down until you here schedules and hit 
 right
 arrow, then down arrow. I think there's a scan schedule option. Now tab
 and
 select your time. Note: you can not have AVG scan every, say, 4 hours 
 or
 so,
 this is a pay thing.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David La Caille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 hi all.
 i would like some help with AVG.
 when i turn on my computer AVG go in to skan mode.
 i doe want that to happen, i would like to skan whenb i want to .
 how can i turn this off?
 thanks.

 David
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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

2008-07-24 Thread Maria Campbell

Most unwelcome indeed.


Sunny Day
Maria Campbell
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O God, help me to link my littleness to Your greatness,
my faintheartedness to Your boldness,
my fear to Your faith.
Then nothing can stop me.


- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 According to Smart Computing for June 2008 Microsoft will stop supporting 
 XP
 in 2009. Personally this is news of the unwelcome kind.
 David Ferrin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: kk. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi can someone actually tell me how long we are going to have to get rid
 of
 windows xp and go on to Vista? Iam just wondering because when microsoft
 stop supporting xp then I'll be in trouble yes?kk.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi,

 free.grisoft.com.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi all.
 Where can I get the free edition for AVG 8?
 I have seen it when the notify dialog had come up but no where to
 download
 it.
 Perhaps I've missed it?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 Hi,

 Open the AVG user interface, which you can get to by pressing enter on
 the
 icon in the system tray. For AVG 8, go to tools, advanced settings. 
 You
 should be in a tree view, go down until you here schedules and hit
 right
 arrow, then down arrow. I think there's a scan schedule option. Now 
 tab
 and
 select your time. Note: you can not have AVG scan every, say, 4 hours
 or
 so,
 this is a pay thing.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David La Caille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 hi all.
 i would like some help with AVG.
 when i turn on my computer AVG go in to skan mode.
 i doe want that to happen, i would like to skan whenb i want to .
 how can i turn this off?
 thanks.

 David
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Skype: thetruestar
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[JAWS-Users] networking issues have been resolved

For the longest time I just couldn't get my hoe network to work, these systems 
just wouldn't speak to each other. Then a week or so ago I got them to play 
nice but then Web Drive went south. I am proud to say this morning everything 
is working as advertised and all systems are playing nice with each other. It's 
time for a doughnut or something like that, it just feels so good when the 
impossible gets to be the possible. I can FTP up to the server just fine while 
at the same time share my printer along with files back and forth locally. This 
was a brain buster for some reason for this humble personage. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

2008-07-24 Thread aiden gardiner

David, that only applies to the support at the microsoft sight, 
support.microsoft.com. they're supporting auto updates until 2014.

Aiden
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 According to Smart Computing for June 2008 Microsoft will stop supporting 
 XP
 in 2009. Personally this is news of the unwelcome kind.
 David Ferrin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: kk. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi can someone actually tell me how long we are going to have to get rid
 of
 windows xp and go on to Vista? Iam just wondering because when microsoft
 stop supporting xp then I'll be in trouble yes?kk.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi,

 free.grisoft.com.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi all.
 Where can I get the free edition for AVG 8?
 I have seen it when the notify dialog had come up but no where to
 download
 it.
 Perhaps I've missed it?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 Hi,

 Open the AVG user interface, which you can get to by pressing enter on
 the
 icon in the system tray. For AVG 8, go to tools, advanced settings. 
 You
 should be in a tree view, go down until you here schedules and hit
 right
 arrow, then down arrow. I think there's a scan schedule option. Now 
 tab
 and
 select your time. Note: you can not have AVG scan every, say, 4 hours
 or
 so,
 this is a pay thing.

 HTH!
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 From: David La Caille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 hi all.
 i would like some help with AVG.
 when i turn on my computer AVG go in to skan mode.
 i doe want that to happen, i would like to skan whenb i want to .
 how can i turn this off?
 thanks.

 David
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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

2008-07-24 Thread kk.

Oh well that's good. she sighs with relief.kk.
- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Sounds wonderful to me for sure.
 David Ferrin
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 - Original Message - 
 From: aiden gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 David, that only applies to the support at the microsoft sight,
 support.microsoft.com. they're supporting auto updates until 2014.

 Aiden
 - Original Message - 
 From: David Ferrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 According to Smart Computing for June 2008 Microsoft will stop 
 supporting
 XP
 in 2009. Personally this is news of the unwelcome kind.
 David Ferrin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: kk. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi can someone actually tell me how long we are going to have to get 
 rid
 of
 windows xp and go on to Vista? Iam just wondering because when 
 microsoft
 stop supporting xp then I'll be in trouble yes?kk.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi,

 free.grisoft.com.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi all.
 Where can I get the free edition for AVG 8?
 I have seen it when the notify dialog had come up but no where to
 download
 it.
 Perhaps I've missed it?
 Thanks.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Derek Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 Hi,

 Open the AVG user interface, which you can get to by pressing enter
 on
 the
 icon in the system tray. For AVG 8, go to tools, advanced settings.
 You
 should be in a tree view, go down until you here schedules and hit
 right
 arrow, then down arrow. I think there's a scan schedule option. Now
 tab
 and
 select your time. Note: you can not have AVG scan every, say, 4 
 hours
 or
 so,
 this is a pay thing.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
 From: David La Caille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 4:55 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 hi all.
 i would like some help with AVG.
 when i turn on my computer AVG go in to skan mode.
 i doe want that to happen, i would like to skan whenb i want to .
 how can i turn this off?
 thanks.

 David
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[JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

Hi all.
I am wondering this.
Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
I know Monky term works fine.
But firstly I can't find it.
So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without setting up 
scripts?
Also:
I am having a problem.
I have used gmud32 on this machine.
And I've unchecked everything.
But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
How do I  turn that all off if any?
Thanks.
I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

2008-07-24 Thread aiden gardiner

christy,

If you've got either msn or skype, I can send you monkey term, along with 
the speech libraries to go with it. My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and my 
skype is littleg93.

Aiden
- original Message - 
From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

 Hi all.
 I am wondering this.
 Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
 I know Monky term works fine.
 But firstly I can't find it.
 So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without 
 setting up scripts?
 Also:
 I am having a problem.
 I have used gmud32 on this machine.
 And I've unchecked everything.
 But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
 How do I  turn that all off if any?
 Thanks.
 I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

Hi there.
I was going ot tell you I've added you to messenger but I see that you have 
come on..

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From: aiden gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

 christy,

 If you've got either msn or skype, I can send you monkey term, along with
 the speech libraries to go with it. My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 
 my
 skype is littleg93.

 Aiden
 - original Message - 
 From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:01 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

 Hi all.
 I am wondering this.
 Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
 I know Monky term works fine.
 But firstly I can't find it.
 So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without
 setting up scripts?
 Also:
 I am having a problem.
 I have used gmud32 on this machine.
 And I've unchecked everything.
 But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
 How do I  turn that all off if any?
 Thanks.
 I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

2008-07-24 Thread Hannah Day

hi there if you would like another friend you can have me if you want 
regards hannah


--

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msn messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients


 Hi there.
 I was going ot tell you I've added you to messenger but I see that you 
 have
 come on..

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 From: aiden gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients


 christy,

 If you've got either msn or skype, I can send you monkey term, along with
 the speech libraries to go with it. My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
 my
 skype is littleg93.

 Aiden
 - original Message - 
 From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:01 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients


 Hi all.
 I am wondering this.
 Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
 I know Monky term works fine.
 But firstly I can't find it.
 So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without
 setting up scripts?
 Also:
 I am having a problem.
 I have used gmud32 on this machine.
 And I've unchecked everything.
 But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
 How do I  turn that all off if any?
 Thanks.
 I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

Hi,

What about vipmud from gmagames.com? The free version is cool, but there's a 
paid version also for more advanced users, I think it's pretty cheap.

HTH!
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To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

 Hi all.
 I am wondering this.
 Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
 I know Monky term works fine.
 But firstly I can't find it.
 So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without 
 setting up scripts?
 Also:
 I am having a problem.
 I have used gmud32 on this machine.
 And I've unchecked everything.
 But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
 How do I  turn that all off if any?
 Thanks.
 I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

2008-07-24 Thread Missy Hoppe

Hi! I was going to suggest gmud. There are scripts available that make it 
work like a dream. I have them zipped somewhere, and could probably send 
them if you can't find them. If you uncheck everything and make sure that 
local echo is disabled, gmud should be working great.
Missy
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From: Christy Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:01 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

Hi all.
I am wondering this.
Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
I know Monky term works fine.
But firstly I can't find it.
So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without setting 
up scripts?
Also:
I am having a problem.
I have used gmud32 on this machine.
And I've unchecked everything.
But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
How do I  turn that all off if any?
Thanks.
I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

sigh I've unchecked the gmud thing.
Unchecked echo and it does not work,

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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

 Hi! I was going to suggest gmud. There are scripts available that make it
 work like a dream. I have them zipped somewhere, and could probably send
 them if you can't find them. If you uncheck everything and make sure that
 local echo is disabled, gmud should be working great.
 Missy
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 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:01 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

 Hi all.
 I am wondering this.
 Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
 I know Monky term works fine.
 But firstly I can't find it.
 So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without 
 setting
 up scripts?
 Also:
 I am having a problem.
 I have used gmud32 on this machine.
 And I've unchecked everything.
 But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
 How do I  turn that all off if any?
 Thanks.
 I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.

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[JAWS-Users] Hi there.

Hi there.
I tried to find Avast download, but the stupid site does not make it at all 
accessible to get the download. Can anyone please help me find it? Or does 
anyone know of the site where the download is? 
Thanks,
christy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients

2008-07-24 Thread kk.

Hi there. Just wondering about this AVG again.  with the older version it 
used to scan the computer at around eight in the morning our time, so does 
this latest AVG do the same? I can't hear it scanning if it does, and I 
don't remember being asked what time for it to scann, or something like 
that.  Hope I haven't confused you, but have totally confused 
myself.hehehe.kk.
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Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients


 Hi,

 What about vipmud from gmagames.com? The free version is cool, but there's 
 a
 paid version also for more advanced users, I think it's pretty cheap.

 HTH!
 - Original Message - 
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 To: Jaws Users List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 3:01 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question about mud clients


 Hi all.
 I am wondering this.
 Is there any mud clients that work with jfw well?
 I know Monky term works fine.
 But firstly I can't find it.
 So can anyone tell me which mud client works well with jaws without
 setting up scripts?
 Also:
 I am having a problem.
 I have used gmud32 on this machine.
 And I've unchecked everything.
 But it still speaks words when I am typing with it.
 How do I  turn that all off if any?
 Thanks.
 I've tried to uncheck echo... but still no luck.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hi there.

hi there.
Can you please send me a link to the page please?

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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Hi there.


I believe that the direct download link for Avast is on the programs page 
at
 this very moment.
 David Ferrin
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Hi there.
 I tried to find Avast download, but the stupid site does not make it at
 all accessible to get the download. Can anyone please help me find it? Or
 does anyone know of the site where the download is?
 Thanks,
christy


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[JAWS-Users] One more Avast question

Hi all.
Sorry to bother all with this. But I heard to uninstall the Avast program you 
need a special program and need help with sighted assistance is this true?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins

I'm really surprised at this as they are still providing support for Win 2K
Pro, or at least the last I knew they were.

thanks
Al

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Most unwelcome indeed.


Sunny Day
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O God, help me to link my littleness to Your greatness,
my faintheartedness to Your boldness,
my fear to Your faith.
Then nothing can stop me.


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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 According to Smart Computing for June 2008 Microsoft will stop supporting
 XP
 in 2009. Personally this is news of the unwelcome kind.
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 Hi can someone actually tell me how long we are going to have to get rid
 of
 windows xp and go on to Vista? Iam just wondering because when microsoft
 stop supporting xp then I'll be in trouble yes?kk.
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 Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 4:25 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi,

 free.grisoft.com.

 HTH!
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:00 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] AVG 8


 Hi all.
 Where can I get the free edition for AVG 8?
 I have seen it when the notify dialog had come up but no where to
 download
 it.
 Perhaps I've missed it?
 Thanks.

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 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 2:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] need help with AVG.


 Hi,

 Open the AVG user interface, which you can get to by pressing enter on
 the
 icon in the system tray. For AVG 8, go to tools, advanced settings.
 You
 should be in a tree view, go down until you here schedules and hit
 right
 arrow, then down arrow. I think there's a scan schedule option. Now
 tab
 and
 select your time. Note: you can not have AVG scan every, say, 4 hours
 or
 so,
 this is a pay thing.

 HTH!
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 hi all.
 i would like some help with AVG.
 when i turn on my computer AVG go in to skan mode.
 i doe want that to happen, i would like to skan whenb i want to .
 how can i turn this off?
 thanks.

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[JAWS-Users] Feedback on free spellcheckers

2008-07-24 Thread Mike Barbara

Hi Everyone,

A friend, who is very new with using Jaws is in need of a free spellchecker 
that will be easy to navigate and simple to understand.  I personally have 
not ever used a free spellchecker so I am asking for the advice of you 
fellow listers on which would be a good spellchecker for her to download. 
She is running XP, Word 2007, Jaws 9.0.2169, and Outlook Express.  Your 
opinions, advice, and direction will be greatly and deeply appreciated. 
Thank you all very much.

Mike
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[JAWS-Users] Opening attachments

2008-07-24 Thread Alan Terrie Robbins

I'm using JAWS 9 (latest update), Win XP Pro and MS Office 2000.  With both
AVG 7.5 professional (paid version) and AVG 8 free when I go to open
attachments in Outlook 2000 (using the method Shift F10 then cursor down to
view attachments) I get an error and they won't open.  This did not happen
with AVG 7.5 Free.  I know it is AVG because I can open them fine when I
uninstall AVG.  I have to save the  attachments to the desktop or another
location and then go there and open them.  Anyone else experiencing this or
know a setting I can check or uncheck to correct this annoying situation?

thanks
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Feedback on free spellcheckers

2008-07-24 Thread RJ

Have your friend go to this web site. I have used this spell checker on a 
friend's computer and it works as well as Word 2000 with O E.
RJ

http://www.snapfiles.com/download/dlspelloe.html
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Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Feedback on free spellcheckers


 Hi Everyone,

 A friend, who is very new with using Jaws is in need of a free 
 spellchecker
 that will be easy to navigate and simple to understand.  I personally have
 not ever used a free spellchecker so I am asking for the advice of you
 fellow listers on which would be a good spellchecker for her to download.
 She is running XP, Word 2007, Jaws 9.0.2169, and Outlook Express.  Your
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 Thank you all very much.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments

2008-07-24 Thread Patricia Dunbar

Maybe because you have 2 versions of AVG and they are conflicting?

- Original Message - 
From: Alan  Terrie Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jaws-Users-List jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 7:54 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Opening attachments


 I'm using JAWS 9 (latest update), Win XP Pro and MS Office 2000.  With 
 both
 AVG 7.5 professional (paid version) and AVG 8 free when I go to open
 attachments in Outlook 2000 (using the method Shift F10 then cursor down 
 to
 view attachments) I get an error and they won't open.  This did not happen
 with AVG 7.5 Free.  I know it is AVG because I can open them fine when I
 uninstall AVG.  I have to save the  attachments to the desktop or another
 location and then go there and open them.  Anyone else experiencing this 
 or
 know a setting I can check or uncheck to correct this annoying situation?

 thanks
 Al


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Feedback on free spellcheckers