[JAWS-Users] windows mail question
?i have a account in windows mail. want to add a second account. so how do i do that, and how to switch to different accounts. any ideas. marvin. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0
OK folks I give up so far as finding where this program is hiding the little window that pops up when somebody is trying to get me to add them in to my contact list. I have found it in the past by sheer luck I might add in at least a couple of cases. If somebody out there is in possession of the formula or the secret handshake please send it my way. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0
hi David. in the skype maine window press tab untill you hear contact botton. then hit enter or space. then it will open a menu. press down arrow till you hear request from new contact. then it would show all the name that is wanna add you to his/ her contact... hope that's help. Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2010年11月8日 星期一，David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 寫道﹕ 寄件人: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 主題: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 日期: 2010年11月8日,星期一,下午10:45 OK folks I give up so far as finding where this program is hiding the little window that pops up when somebody is trying to get me to add them in to my contact list. I have found it in the past by sheer luck I might add in at least a couple of cases. If somebody out there is in possession of the formula or the secret handshake please send it my way. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0
I find no contact button. I find an add a contact button. Which when I inter or hit space bar on it. Just brings up the traditional add contact stuff, skype user name, email address, so on so forth. If I've missed it... - Original Message - From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 09:55 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 hi David. in the skype maine window press tab untill you hear contact botton. then hit enter or space. then it will open a menu. press down arrow till you hear request from new contact. then it would show all the name that is wanna add you to his/ her contact... hope that's help. Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2010年11月8日 星期一，David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 寫道﹕ 寄件人: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 主題: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 日期: 2010年11月8日,星期一,下午10:45 OK folks I give up so far as finding where this program is hiding the little window that pops up when somebody is trying to get me to add them in to my contact list. I have found it in the past by sheer luck I might add in at least a couple of cases. If somebody out there is in possession of the formula or the secret handshake please send it my way. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0
I will certainly give it a try. Skype 3.8 had such a nice interface at least in my opinion for what it's worth. Thanks Ming for giving me a place to start. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 I find no contact button. I find an add a contact button. Which when I inter or hit space bar on it. Just brings up the traditional add contact stuff, skype user name, email address, so on so forth. If I've missed it... - Original Message - From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 09:55 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 hi David. in the skype maine window press tab untill you hear contact botton. then hit enter or space. then it will open a menu. press down arrow till you hear request from new contact. then it would show all the name that is wanna add you to his/ her contact... hope that's help. Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2010年11月8日 星期一，David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 寫道﹕ 寄件人: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 主題: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 日期: 2010年11月8日,星期一,下午10:45 OK folks I give up so far as finding where this program is hiding the little window that pops up when somebody is trying to get me to add them in to my contact list. I have found it in the past by sheer luck I might add in at least a couple of cases. If somebody out there is in possession of the formula or the secret handshake please send it my way. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
I also have a fairly high end machine, with Windows 7, 64 bit, with a quad core processor, and have none of these problems you have mentioned. Are you sure it isn't with your settings, or available ram? I don't have any lag times, in fact, it's probably the most responsive version to date. I can't replicate any of the problems you mentioned. Try playing with your ram settings, and also check what programs you have running at startup, maybe that has something to do with the problems you're experiencing. Good luck, Melissa Melissa Riley jamand...@izoom.net riley...@umn.edu -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Saylien Brown Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0
it ok... hope that's help... Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2010年11月8日 星期一，David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com 寫道﹕ 寄件人: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com 主題: Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 日期: 2010年11月8日,星期一,下午10:26 I will certainly give it a try. Skype 3.8 had such a nice interface at least in my opinion for what it's worth. Thanks Ming for giving me a place to start. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Sean Paul newsandtraf...@hotmail To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 I find no contact button. I find an add a contact button. Which when I inter or hit space bar on it. Just brings up the traditional add contact stuff, skype user name, email address, so on so forth. If I've missed it... - Original Message - From: Ming chungchim...@yahoo.com.hk To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 09:55 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 hi David. in the skype maine window press tab untill you hear contact botton. then hit enter or space. then it will open a menu. press down arrow till you hear request from new contact. then it would show all the name that is wanna add you to his/ her contact... hope that's help. Ming tel: 6421 9950 msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2010年11月8日 星期一，David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 寫道﹕ 寄件人: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com 主題: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 日期: 2010年11月8日,星期一,下午10:45 OK folks I give up so far as finding where this program is hiding the little window that pops up when somebody is trying to get me to add them in to my contact list. I have found it in the past by sheer luck I might add in at least a couple of cases. If somebody out there is in possession of the formula or the secret handshake please send it my way. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11
I am wanting to use 2 sound cards with my laptop and would like to have jaws go through my dm-520 voice recorder and everything else through the system speakers to separate jaws from music playing. how can this be done? thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11
I'm afraid we can'p help you until you tell us what version of Jaws you're running. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11
ooops, i am using jaws 11. sorry about that. Legend has it that on Monday 11/8/2010 10:17 AM, Scorpio Forever said: I'm afraid we can'p help you until you tell us what version of Jaws you're running. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0
hey David Ferrin give me your skype contact so i can talk to you. i need your help. my skype name is mr_Bengal - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:45 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Skype 5.0 OK folks I give up so far as finding where this program is hiding the little window that pops up when somebody is trying to get me to add them in to my contact list. I have found it in the past by sheer luck I might add in at least a couple of cases. If somebody out there is in possession of the formula or the secret handshake please send it my way. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
well, i think they need to remove the research-it feature and work on the program itself. there are planty of search engines on the internet without having that added to jaws. Legend has it that on Monday 11/8/2010 10:20 AM, Patrick said: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Hi there, I know exactly how you feel but how odd it is that the same program works so differently for users. I would have said jaws 12 is much better than 11. You would of thought that by now Jaws would do just about anything but everyone keeps updating everything and it messes us all up, progress I guess, keeps people in work some would say. Graham -Original Message- From: Saylien Brown Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
I experienced this same problem with JAWS 12 and wrote to the tech support of FS and received the following suggestion, which has helped. Dear Becky Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support. Try taking the steps below and see if the issue persist. 1. Activate the run dialog Windows key+r 2. Type in: iexplore -extoff And hit enter When Internet Explore comes up, see if the issue still persist. - Original Message - From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Get this off the list and take it to them directly. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Patrick patrickford...@msn.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11
Check out the utilities menu and look under sound cards, it's quite easy believe me. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11 ooops, i am using jaws 11. sorry about that. Legend has it that on Monday 11/8/2010 10:17 AM, Scorpio Forever said: I'm afraid we can'p help you until you tell us what version of Jaws you're running. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Thanks for that tidbit, helps a lot! Heather For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11
thanks will check that out. Legend has it that on Monday 11/8/2010 10:27 AM, David Ferrin said: Check out the utilities menu and look under sound cards, it's quite easy believe me. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] how to use 2 sound cards with jaws 11 ooops, i am using jaws 11. sorry about that. Legend has it that on Monday 11/8/2010 10:17 AM, Scorpio Forever said: I'm afraid we can'p help you until you tell us what version of Jaws you're running. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JAWS12 is good!
JAWS12, in my view, is one of the best releases in recent times. better - much better - than JAWS11, even on Windows XP. there's some sluggishness on some pages in Internet Explorer 8; but that was how it was in 11 too. I like the Settings Center. (If you've ever had to explain to others how to use the Configuration manager, well, it is simpler to explain this, and - who knows - people might be empowered to do more for themselves with the Settings Center. And, as for the Virtual Ribbon, yes, it is possible to uncheck it and (if required) use the standard Ribbons instead. Improved Flash recognition, is something I've noticed in just the few days since I installed version 12. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws activation?
You might call FS. I recently did a whole system re-install and it changed the locking code for my version of Jaws. They changed it while I was on the phone and giving it a couple of minutes to work through the system, it activated for me. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kliph Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 10:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws activation? Hello, I have successfully installed more ram in to my computer. But as you know once you do this Jaws asks you to reactivate, I have no problem doing this. Only thing is, once I do it, and jaws says it has been successfully completed, it still comes back 40 minutes later, or after I restart the computer saying that I need to still activate. What's the solution for this problem? Do I have to completely uninstall Jaws and start over? Or is this a driver issue? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Thanks Becky for sharing this tip. But it is not a permanent solution to the problem. It simply disables all add-ons running in Internet Explorer (Including Flash.) This makes many of the sites I visit useless for they use Macromedia Flash to display their content. The first beta of JAWS 12 worked the best in my opinion. Wish there was some way I could re-install it, without the recent updates that messed it up. At 11:25 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: I experienced this same problem with JAWS 12 and wrote to the tech support of FS and received the following suggestion, which has helped. Dear Becky Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support. Try taking the steps below and see if the issue persist. 1. Activate the run dialog Windows key+r 2. Type in: iexplore -extoff And hit enter When Internet Explore comes up, see if the issue still persist. - Original Message - From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ. Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC. I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this time around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart. At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Melissa, your theory would make since, but my system works perfectly with all releases of version 11. Everything I mentioned goes away when I switched back to using it. It is definitely something extra they did to the Virtual Buffer, the way v 12 interfaces with the video card... something. Problems only happen when using Internet Explorer 8 it seems. I have 4 GB of RAM installed, and am running Windows 7 home premium. This PC is quite capable of handling even the most memory intensive applications, except for JAWS v12. At 10:44 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: I also have a fairly high end machine, with Windows 7, 64 bit, with a quad core processor, and have none of these problems you have mentioned. Are you sure it isn't with your settings, or available ram? I don't have any lag times, in fact, it's probably the most responsive version to date. I can't replicate any of the problems you mentioned. Try playing with your ram settings, and also check what programs you have running at startup, maybe that has something to do with the problems you're experiencing. Good luck, Melissa Melissa Riley jamand...@izoom.net riley...@umn.edu -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Saylien Brown Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JAWS 12 and edit fields
I'm wondering whether anyone else has experienced this with JAWS 12: When I want to type in an edit field on the Internet--I'm using IE 8, it makes the sound to indicate that forms mode is on, but after I type my text, I find that the cursor is not focused anywhere near the text field I thought I was in. I mean, it will be way down the page on a heading or a link. I go back to the edit field and try again, only to have the same thing happen. Sometimes it takes three or four tries before the cursor is actually in the edit field and I can type something there. Also, if I am editing text, modifying a search, etc, sometimes the cursor will jump, while I'm typing, to the end of the line. I have no indication that it has done so until the search turns up nothing and when I check what I wrote, it's all mixed up. For example, let's say I do a search for dog food and I want to modify it to Eukanuba Breed Specific dog food. My search may end up reading something like Eukanuba Breed dog food Specific. I know it isn't me. I have been using JAWS and the Internet for over 10 years and have never experienced anything like this before. Is this happening to anyone else using JAWS 12? Thanks for any feedback, Deannes For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] question
I'm using win7-64bit ult, jaws 12 64-bit and word 2010. I've got an assignment where I must read thru a word document and highlight specific words as if I was using a highlight pen. I can achieve this by going into the menu home, font, highlight, then select my desired color. Then as I read thru the document I can use ctrl-shift-right arrow to select the word or words to be highlighted then I can press ctrl-alt-h to highlight it. Using the tools listed above this works properly. This is my question. Once I get the proper words highlighted: How can I get jaws to identify the highlighted words as I read thru the document? I'm not referring to insert-5 which reads the highlight color once I've positioned the cursor. I need to have jaws identify the words during regularly reading. Thanx, John For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Well then stop using it and see how far you get with your computer. Either way I don't care just get this off my list. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Patrick patrickford...@msn.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! I'm speaking only on version 12 - whatever blessings have come or will come are another story - yes, FS is in the business of making money - and that is fine , however I believe there are some releases that are shoved out onto us and we'll just take anything because we need it ...itit's easy: here it is: they make money off of blind people - big money - do you really think that these releases are worth the money you just shelled out? Of course they are not. The government buys 88 percent of these programs so the price is based on that. I'm not being hard - I'm being too soft - it's ridiculous what we pay for these programs. They should be shamed of themselves. She brings me good things. -- 'From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ. Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC. I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this time around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart. At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows mail question
open windows mail; 1, alt+t=tools, 2, a=accounts; 3, now, tab to add, press spacebar, or, just press alt+a; you will land on, email; just tab next, enter. now, just go through the various screens, adding the account information. once your account has been created, when you create new message, ctrl+n, your in the to field, just shift tab and arrow to the account you wish to email from, now continue with your message, adding in the correct information, as in, address to, subject, and so on. hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 6:00 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows mail question ?i have a account in windows mail. want to add a second account. so how do i do that, and how to switch to different accounts. any ideas. marvin. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Good afternoon listers, just to add to this discussion... I called fs support to discuss the problems with vs2010 and jfw. The person I spoke with said that it didn't work reliably and that he hoped it would someday. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! I'm speaking only on version 12 - whatever blessings have come or will come are another story - yes, FS is in the business of making money - and that is fine , however I believe there are some releases that are shoved out onto us and we'll just take anything because we need it ...itit's easy: here it is: they make money off of blind people - big money - do you really think that these releases are worth the money you just shelled out? Of course they are not. The government buys 88 percent of these programs so the price is based on that. I'm not being hard - I'm being too soft - it's ridiculous what we pay for these programs. They should be shamed of themselves. She brings me good things. -- 'From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ. Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC. I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this time around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart. At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ ECKE RANCH Providing Integrity, Innovation, Grower Solutions for 3 Generations! This communication (including any attachments) may contain
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
this is enough, like the mod said, if you have issued with FS, take it off list, and quit cluttering the list with this nonsense. - Original Message - From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good afternoon listers, just to add to this discussion... I called fs support to discuss the problems with vs2010 and jfw. The person I spoke with said that it didn't work reliably and that he hoped it would someday. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! I'm speaking only on version 12 - whatever blessings have come or will come are another story - yes, FS is in the business of making money - and that is fine , however I believe there are some releases that are shoved out onto us and we'll just take anything because we need it ...itit's easy: here it is: they make money off of blind people - big money - do you really think that these releases are worth the money you just shelled out? Of course they are not. The government buys 88 percent of these programs so the price is based on that. I'm not being hard - I'm being too soft - it's ridiculous what we pay for these programs. They should be shamed of themselves. She brings me good things. -- 'From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ. Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC. I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this time around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart. At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
I haven't called time out for a long time but today is the day. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Rick Watson rwat...@eckeranch.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good afternoon listers, just to add to this discussion... I called fs support to discuss the problems with vs2010 and jfw. The person I spoke with said that it didn't work reliably and that he hoped it would someday. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! I'm speaking only on version 12 - whatever blessings have come or will come are another story - yes, FS is in the business of making money - and that is fine , however I believe there are some releases that are shoved out onto us and we'll just take anything because we need it ...itit's easy: here it is: they make money off of blind people - big money - do you really think that these releases are worth the money you just shelled out? Of course they are not. The government buys 88 percent of these programs so the price is based on that. I'm not being hard - I'm being too soft - it's ridiculous what we pay for these programs. They should be shamed of themselves. She brings me good things. -- 'From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ. Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC. I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this time around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart. At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
[JAWS-Users] memo to the list
Now that we have had a bit of a cooling off period I hope that the flaming and complaining is done. If it continues then the next step is to start removing people until all of the complainers are let's say gone. I don't like being a hard case about such things but I absolutely will not manage a list that condones such activities. Now let's get back down to business please folks. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
I disagreem I have found the 'Research It feature quite useful. A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! well, i think they need to remove the research-it feature and work on the program itself. there are planty of search engines on the internet without having that added to jaws. Legend has it that on Monday 11/8/2010 10:20 AM, Patrick said: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
My theory in this issue is this: if you are happy with the current version you are using, then stick with it. I haven't upgraded yet because I am happy with what I am using Jaws 11 for. Let's get this off the list. Wayne A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones. - Original Message - From: Patrick patrickford...@msn.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! I'm speaking only on version 12 - whatever blessings have come or will come are another story - yes, FS is in the business of making money - and that is fine , however I believe there are some releases that are shoved out onto us and we'll just take anything because we need it ...itit's easy: here it is: they make money off of blind people - big money - do you really think that these releases are worth the money you just shelled out? Of course they are not. The government buys 88 percent of these programs so the price is based on that. I'm not being hard - I'm being too soft - it's ridiculous what we pay for these programs. They should be shamed of themselves. She brings me good things. -- 'From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Patrick, think you're being a little hard on HJ. Yes, I'm quite upset with the 12 release, but JAWS has been a blessen in my eyes in accessing the Internet and doing work on my PC. I don't believe HJ would release any product simply to make a buck. They really try their best to keep up with changes to Windows, browsers and other en-user applications. Just think they did too much to JAWS this time around. They will get it together. I thoroughly believe that in my heart. At 11:20 AM 11/8/2010, you wrote: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS!
Obviously I failed to make my point clear enough regarding this subject line. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Wayne Scott waynedsc...@cableone.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! I disagreem I have found the 'Research It feature quite useful. A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones. - Original Message - From: northstar1...@att.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! well, i think they need to remove the research-it feature and work on the program itself. there are planty of search engines on the internet without having that added to jaws. Legend has it that on Monday 11/8/2010 10:20 AM, Patrick said: Wow, I agree. This is the worst. I think they put out this build just to get some cash flow - it was put out before its time. Basically, it is a rip off. They should be ashamed of themselves for rippping us off. Come on FS! Get it together. She brings me good things. -- From: Saylien Brown say...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:38 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sorry, but I need to rant about v12 of JAWS! Good morning, I've been a supporter of JAWS since version 2.x. Always have stayed up-to-date on my SMA. Never have I been totally dismayed with a major update until version 12.x. This has got to be the worst release of JAWS I've ever tried. First graphics it use to read as so, it now recognizes them as buttons. Quite irritating when you use quick navigation keys to jump to certain elements of a web page to read it faster. And it is quite the memory hog! JAWS 12.x crashes so much on my high-end Windows 7 machine, I've gone back to using 11.x. Think it has something to do with the Virtual Ribbon or new fangled Config manager, who knows. Anycase, it is very irritating to be reading a web page, only to have it go silent for 3 minutes, and then JAWS comes back. Sorry HJ, but I hate v12 of JAWS and have gone back to using v11.x perminantly. It's more stable and doesn't crash every 5 minutes. Wish you allowed us to switch the config manager back to the old one. Do away with using this new Virtual Ribbon. Give us a choice to switch them on and off. If I get booted for expressing my feelings on this list, so be it. Never done this before, until now. Feel better getting this off my chest. Thanks for listening. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5601 (20101108) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] memo to the list
Have I made my point yet people or not? Drop the offensive subject lines and the negative posts or we're going to do is start picking email addresses off of list messages and simply start removing members until all of the complainers are gone. If you don't like the way we run things on here nobody is forcing you to stay. We do this as a hobby and nothing says we're required to continue. Just in case some of the more dense might not be completely sure I am not a happy camper right now. If I wake up tomorrow and find any further offensive messages those people will not post again, now nobody should be in doubt at all. Rick and Bob you guys know the drill who ever posts an offensive message is gone. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] what has google done?
I just went to google and jaws is so unresponsive I can't use it, anyone else having this issue? Troy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] what has google done?
Is the forms mode not working? If so, then yes. It's acting like tabbed browsing is on. Many blocked people are very powerful creative personalities who have been made to feel guilty about their own strengths gifts. --Julia Cameron - Original Message - From: Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com To: jaws list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:08 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] what has google done? I just went to google and jaws is so unresponsive I can't use it, anyone else having this issue? Troy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] memo to the list
Hi David, I totally agree with you, this inflammatory business should be stopped and those who are involved, you know who you are, please, please, please stop this immediately! David has put this list up as a hobbie, not a place for people to complain about products such as JAWS, flaming FS here is not the place to do it, if you have any complaints about their products, they should contact FS directly, not on this list! That's my 2 sence worth. END, OF, DESCUSSION! - Original Message - From: David Ferrin d...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 8:26 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo to the list Have I made my point yet people or not? Drop the offensive subject lines and the negative posts or we're going to do is start picking email addresses off of list messages and simply start removing members until all of the complainers are gone. If you don't like the way we run things on here nobody is forcing you to stay. We do this as a hobby and nothing says we're required to continue. Just in case some of the more dense might not be completely sure I am not a happy camper right now. If I wake up tomorrow and find any further offensive messages those people will not post again, now nobody should be in doubt at all. Rick and Bob you guys know the drill who ever posts an offensive message is gone. David Ferrin Most people don't know what they're doing and a lot of them are really good at it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] what has google done?
H, I have no problems! I use this link:http://labs.google.com/accessible/. God luck! Heather For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] what has google done?
No problem here. RJ - Original Message - From: Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com To: jaws list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:08 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] what has google done? I just went to google and jaws is so unresponsive I can't use it, anyone else having this issue? Troy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] question
Hello John, The highlighting should be recognized if you use the colors scheme. Use Alt+JAWS key+S to bring up the list of schemes. Press C until you find the colors scheme choice and press enter key. The highlight color should be found when using Say All and when using arrow keys to navigate and read. You can also use Word 2010's find command to find every instance of the highlighting in the document. 1. Press CTRL+F to bring up the find dialog box. 2. Use tab key to the search split button and press enter key. 3. Tab to the advanced find button and press enter key. 4. Tab to the more button and press enter key. 5. Use two shift+tab keystrokes from the find page tab. JAWS will recognize both controls as find and replace toolbar. Press enter key on the control that is two shift+tabs from the find page tab. 6. Press up arrow once from the font choice to the highlight choice and press enter key. 7. Press Alt+F to activate the find next button. 8. Press escape key to read the first result. 9. Use CTRL+page down to move down through the document to subsequent results or CTRL+page up command to move to previous results in the document. When focus moves to the results in the document, the highlighted result will be selected so you can use shift key with JAWS key and down arrow to read selected text, which should be the highlighted text. Take care. Brian Lee brianl...@charter.net -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John W. Carty Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:33 AM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' Subject: [JAWS-Users] question I'm using win7-64bit ult, jaws 12 64-bit and word 2010. I've got an assignment where I must read thru a word document and highlight specific words as if I was using a highlight pen. I can achieve this by going into the menu home, font, highlight, then select my desired color. Then as I read thru the document I can use ctrl-shift-right arrow to select the word or words to be highlighted then I can press ctrl-alt-h to highlight it. Using the tools listed above this works properly. This is my question. Once I get the proper words highlighted: How can I get jaws to identify the highlighted words as I read thru the document? I'm not referring to insert-5 which reads the highlight color once I've positioned the cursor. I need to have jaws identify the words during regularly reading. Thanx, John For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] what has google done?
Google is fine on this end! Wayne A merry heart does good like medicine, but a broken spirit dries the bones. - Original Message - From: Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com To: jaws list jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:08 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] what has google done? I just went to google and jaws is so unresponsive I can't use it, anyone else having this issue? Troy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
