[JAWS-Users] Tradeoffs with Abby FineReader from Kurzweil 1000

[Cristóbal]

Hello list,

I have Kurzweil 1000 and am considering switching to Abby FineReader for my
desktop OCR needs. I’ve never really got use to the K1000 commands or
interface and a lot of the extras that K1000 offers simply aren’t of
interest to me. Included calculator, calendar, database look up, etc.

Like everyone else on these lists I imagine, my main interest is OCR
accuracy which from my understanding shouldn’t be a problem since K1000 and
OpenBook use the FineReader OCR engine anyway.

As a Jaws user, I am also interested to know of any possible issues or
drawbacks/compromises one might encounter when using Abby FineReader as
opposed to K1000.

Between my iPhone with a ScanStand and the Jaws OCR feature I find myself
using or needing a standalone desktop solution less and less, but for those
times I do need one or wish to use for more involved scans, I’d like to be
able to use something where I don’t have to remember a completely different
set of other commands and settings like in K1000.

I am using JFW 18 on both Windows 10 and 7 computers.

Any feedback would be appreciated. 

Thanks,

Cristobal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi GS,

I would recommend that you use MWB 2.2.1.  It is much more accessible than 
3.0.  At least with 2.2.1 you could get definite answers versus maybes.  You 
can check out the various versions from the website below:

www.malwarebytes.org

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: gs
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws


The touch cursor and the JAWSCursor are not really comparable as their
functions are different. We are reaching a crisis with regard to
accessibility of modern apps.

There are many parts of most of these apps that are simply not workable.
Maybe I'm just missing something after having used the Mac OS for the past
three years. I have just returned entirely to Windows and am finding it very
challenging to discover apps that will do what I need them to do while
remaining accessible enough to use with any modicum of efficiency.

I am about to try Malware Bytes to see whether the touch cursor will
suffice.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

Hi Gene,

No I have not, damn didn't even think about it!  LOL  Anyways, I've already
uninstalled & went back to MWB 2.2, but will using the Touch Cursor allow me

to fill in the necessary edit fields to schedule scans & access all settings

checkboxes?  Thanks for the reminder & your input.  A very happy New Year to

all!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws


Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
> settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.
>
> In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7
> Pro
> & Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for
> the
> various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
> A
> very happy New Year to all!
> Take care.
> Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox

[gs]

May have to just do it the old-fashioned way:

Move to the Address Bar with Alt + D or F6 and press Control + C to copy the
address to the clipboard.

Press Windows + M to minimize all apps and go to the Desktop.

Press Control + Space to deselect the selected item.

Press the Context menu key (Shift + F10) to get the context menu.

Choose New/Shortcut and paste the URI, press Next, and give it a meaningful
name.

Press Finish.
 
Maybe there is an easier way from Firefox but if so I haven't taken the time
to figure it out.

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Behalf Of Jim Pursley
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox

How do I create a desktop shortcut for a web site with Firefox v50? 
Running Win7, JAWS 17 latest.  Help indicates only mouse maneuver.

-- 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

[Adrian Spratt]

Miriam,

When you followed the IE11 method, did you put focus next to one of your 
favorites before pressing the applications key? In the past, my failure to set 
the focus this way caused the operation not to work as advertised.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 9:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

It was going to I E and then to My Favorites, and then to  the applications key 
and moving to sort by.

Miriam
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 7:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

Miriam, 

I think three sets of instructions were posted. Maybe if you can say which set 
you followed, someone could help. For example, was it the online method, going 
directly to IE, or were you working with one of the off-line suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

On my Win7 computer with I E 11, somehow, when I followed the directions that 
someone gave the other day for sorting in alphabetical order, I ended up with 
some websites listed 2 on a line. I can't delete one without deleting the 
other. I also see that I have all sorts of repititions. How can I delete or 
move the second website on a line? 

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[gs]

The touch cursor and the JAWSCursor are not really comparable as their
functions are different. We are reaching a crisis with regard to
accessibility of modern apps.

There are many parts of most of these apps that are simply not workable.
Maybe I'm just missing something after having used the Mac OS for the past
three years. I have just returned entirely to Windows and am finding it very
challenging to discover apps that will do what I need them to do while
remaining accessible enough to use with any modicum of efficiency.

I am about to try Malware Bytes to see whether the touch cursor will
suffice.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

Hi Gene,

No I have not, damn didn't even think about it!  LOL  Anyways, I've already 
uninstalled & went back to MWB 2.2, but will using the Touch Cursor allow me

to fill in the necessary edit fields to schedule scans & access all settings

checkboxes?  Thanks for the reminder & your input.  A very happy New Year to

all!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws


Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
> settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.
>
> In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7 
> Pro
> & Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for 
> the
> various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho. 
> A
> very happy New Year to all!
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Pintourist

[Annette Carr]

I have not been successful with using it.  I am a member of 2 list for blind
crafters and this topic has come up a few times and last it was discussed no
one had found it accessible.

HTH,
Annette


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 3:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Pintourist

Hi group,

Is Pintourist useable by someone using Jaws or is it pretty much all
photographs? Just wanting to know if I should try to use it or not.

Thanks and happy 2017,
Norma


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Re: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

[Miriam Vieni]

It was going to I E and then to My Favorites, and then to  
 the applications key and moving to sort by.

Miriam
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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 7:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

Miriam, 

I think three sets of instructions were posted. Maybe if you can say which
set you followed, someone could help. For example, was it the online method,
going directly to IE, or were you working with one of the off-line
suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

On my Win7 computer with I E 11, somehow, when I followed the directions
that someone gave the other day for sorting in alphabetical order, I ended
up with some websites listed 2 on a line. I can't delete one without
deleting the other. I also see that I have all sorts of repititions. How can
I delete or move the second website on a line? 

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

[Adrian Spratt]

Miriam, 

I think three sets of instructions were posted. Maybe if you can say which set 
you followed, someone could help. For example, was it the online method, going 
directly to IE, or were you working with one of the off-line suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] My Favorites

On my Win7 computer with I E 11, somehow, when I followed the directions that 
someone gave the other day for sorting in alphabetical order, I ended up with 
some websites listed 2 on a line. I can't delete one without deleting the 
other. I also see that I have all sorts of repititions. How can I delete or 
move the second website on a line? 

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Gene Warner]

You are probably right. Although I started using JAWS at version 15, I 
didn't discover the touch cursor until version 17. I had to learn JAWS 
on my own because the only available training wasn't a structured 
course. The instructor simply asked you what you wanted to learn. I am 
guessing he was too lazy to develop a properly structured course. I 
found out later that nobody attends his class longer than one session.


I could go on about the disaster that the local rehabilitation center 
is, but I won't bore you.


Cheers!



On 1/1/2017 3:49 PM, Subash wrote:

Happy New Year Gene.
Just a quick fyi, the touch cursor, I think, JAWS 15 and later.

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 1:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

Hi!

This is for the desktop keyboard layout using the insert as the JAWS key
and with num lock turned off.

To turn on the touch cursor, press insert plus shift plus the num pad + key
To browse the current window's objects, press the left or right arrow keys.
To browse the same type of objects as the object you are currently on,
press the up or down arrow keys
To give the object you are currently on the focus and to activate it,
press the space bar.
To exit the touch cursor, press the num pad + key twice rapidly. If you
forget and only press it once, it won't do anything but remind you to
press it twice to exit the touch cursor.

That's pretty much it, your control options are pretty limited while
using the touch cursor. Plus I do not know in what version of JAWS the
touch cursor was introduced. If you are using a version of JAWS earlier
than 17, your version  may not have the touch cursor feature.

If I were so inclined, I'd use the new mouse echo feature in JAWS 18 to
try to use version 3.0. But I'm not, version 1.75 from the jaws-users
web site's programs page suits me just fine.

Cheers!


On 1/1/2017 8:50 AM, Dacia Cole wrote:

How do you enable the touch cursor?

On 1/1/17, Gene Warner  wrote:

Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to
change
settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.

In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7
Pro
& Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for
the
various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy
moocho.
A
very happy New Year to all!
Take care.
Mike
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[JAWS-Users] My Favorites

[Miriam Vieni]

On my Win7 computer with I E 11, somehow, when I followed the directions
that someone gave the other day for sorting in alphabetical order, I ended
up with some websites listed 2 on a line. I can't delete one without
deleting the other. I also see that I have all sorts of repititions. How can
I delete or move the second website on a line? 

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Subash]

Happy New Year Gene.
Just a quick fyi, the touch cursor, I think, JAWS 15 and later.

-Original Message- 
From: Gene Warner

Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 1:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

Hi!

This is for the desktop keyboard layout using the insert as the JAWS key
and with num lock turned off.

To turn on the touch cursor, press insert plus shift plus the num pad + key
To browse the current window's objects, press the left or right arrow keys.
To browse the same type of objects as the object you are currently on,
press the up or down arrow keys
To give the object you are currently on the focus and to activate it,
press the space bar.
To exit the touch cursor, press the num pad + key twice rapidly. If you
forget and only press it once, it won't do anything but remind you to
press it twice to exit the touch cursor.

That's pretty much it, your control options are pretty limited while
using the touch cursor. Plus I do not know in what version of JAWS the
touch cursor was introduced. If you are using a version of JAWS earlier
than 17, your version  may not have the touch cursor feature.

If I were so inclined, I'd use the new mouse echo feature in JAWS 18 to
try to use version 3.0. But I'm not, version 1.75 from the jaws-users
web site's programs page suits me just fine.

Cheers!


On 1/1/2017 8:50 AM, Dacia Cole wrote:

How do you enable the touch cursor?

On 1/1/17, Gene Warner  wrote:

Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.

In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7
Pro
& Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for
the
various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy 
moocho.

A
very happy New Year to all!
Take care.
Mike
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[JAWS-Users] Pintourist

[The Iowa Gal]

Hi group,

Is Pintourist useable by someone using Jaws or is it pretty much all
photographs? Just wanting to know if I should try to use it or not.

Thanks and happy 2017,
Norma


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene,

Okay I see that you're runningMWB 1.75, & that can be navigated without the 
touch cursor with no problems, but versions 2.2 & 3.0 are totally different 
animals.  If you would like steps to navigate 1.75 let me know if your're 
running the free or pro version.  With the free version you can't schedule a 
scan, but you can set it to keep the definitions up to date without allowing 
the program to update.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws


Hi!

This is for the desktop keyboard layout using the insert as the JAWS key
and with num lock turned off.

To turn on the touch cursor, press insert plus shift plus the num pad + key
To browse the current window's objects, press the left or right arrow keys.
To browse the same type of objects as the object you are currently on,
press the up or down arrow keys
To give the object you are currently on the focus and to activate it,
press the space bar.
To exit the touch cursor, press the num pad + key twice rapidly. If you
forget and only press it once, it won't do anything but remind you to
press it twice to exit the touch cursor.

That's pretty much it, your control options are pretty limited while
using the touch cursor. Plus I do not know in what version of JAWS the
touch cursor was introduced. If you are using a version of JAWS earlier
than 17, your version  may not have the touch cursor feature.

If I were so inclined, I'd use the new mouse echo feature in JAWS 18 to
try to use version 3.0. But I'm not, version 1.75 from the jaws-users
web site's programs page suits me just fine.

Cheers!


On 1/1/2017 8:50 AM, Dacia Cole wrote:
> How do you enable the touch cursor?
>
> On 1/1/17, Gene Warner  wrote:
>> Hi Mike!
>>
>> Have you tried the touch cursor?
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
>>> settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.
>>>
>>> In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7
>>> Pro
>>> & Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for
>>> the
>>> various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy 
>>> moocho.
>>> A
>>> very happy New Year to all!
>>> Take care.
>>> Mike
>>> Sent from my iBarstool.
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>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] gold wave recordings

[Paul]

Converting mono to stereo was a trick often done in the early 1960's.  
Here's a quick n' dirty method.



1.  Always make a safety copy of the sound file.  Mark it clearly as an 
archive, or "safety dub."



2.  With the sound open in Goldwave, create a new sound (CTRL+N) and 
specify a stereo soundfile.


3.  Copy the original sound to the clipboard.

4.  In the new sound you just created, use the combination Ctrl+shift+R 
to select the right channel.


5.  Mix the mono file into the blank right channel of your new sound.

6.  Repeat the process with the laft channel of the new sound, mut set 
the start point for mixing the mono track into the stereo sound at about 
0.02 seconds.  This slight delay will give an illusion of a stereo 
sound.  You can also then use Stereo Reverb under the Effects, Echo menu 
to add some depth.  Inverting one of the two channels in the new sound 
can also add to the illusion.



Good luck.. Let me know how it works for you.


Paul





On 12/31/2016 5:27 PM, Kevin wrote:

John

ok it's ok, I increased the volume using dynamics I think that was the 
problem because I made a copy and increased the volume in the volume 
heading it's fine now.

one thing is it possible to convert a mono recording to stereo?

-Original Message- From: john_Justice
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] gold wave recordings

Kevin,
That effect is sometimes called "wave distortion".  It can be caused by
several factors and so I'm going to recommend that you try a few 
things to

isolate the issue and eliminate other causes of that distortion.
1. To make sure that the distortion isn't being caused by your computer's
sound card, plug in a set of headphones and then try experimenting 
with the

volume.

If you have a digital recorder such as Olympus, try transferring the 
file to

the recorder.  Then play it on there.  If the wave distortion doesn't
continue, then it's your sound card or amplifier.

There are many features available in Gold Wave which can change the way a
sound is heard by passing it through various filters.  First, make a 
copy of

the file.
Then, try filtering the sound using the Gold Wave  features.

Finally, a distortion like that might be a part of the original recording
but isn't as noticeable at lower volumes.  It is a given fact that 
when you

add more power to an output, you add more headroom giving the signal a
chance to distort.
Good luck.

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

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Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] goldwave recordings

does anyone know if it is possible to fix a goldwave recording. my
recording is of a poem and it sounds fine when the volume is low, but 
if I

increase the volume the speech of the poem gets like bubbly.  it actually
sounds bubbly.
using jaws 18.0.2118 and windows 10 16 07 latest build.
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Gene Warner]

Hi Mike!

A correction to my email about accessing the touch cursor, you don't 
need the JAWS key. So to enter the touch cursor, just press shift plus 
the num pad + key.


To fill in fields, browse to the field you want to fill, then press 
space to give it the focus, then exit the touch cursor, fill in the 
field, then reenter the touch cursor to continue navigating the program.


Not sure if this same technique will work for other controls like spin 
boxes or drop down lists.


Good luck!



On 1/1/2017 9:44 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Gene,

No I have not, damn didn't even think about it!  LOL  Anyways, I've already
uninstalled & went back to MWB 2.2, but will using the Touch Cursor allow me
to fill in the necessary edit fields to schedule scans & access all settings
checkboxes?  Thanks for the reminder & your input.  A very happy New Year to
all!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws


Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.

In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7
Pro
& Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for
the
various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
A
very happy New Year to all!
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Gene Warner]

Hi!

This is for the desktop keyboard layout using the insert as the JAWS key 
and with num lock turned off.


To turn on the touch cursor, press insert plus shift plus the num pad + key
To browse the current window's objects, press the left or right arrow keys.
To browse the same type of objects as the object you are currently on, 
press the up or down arrow keys
To give the object you are currently on the focus and to activate it, 
press the space bar.
To exit the touch cursor, press the num pad + key twice rapidly. If you 
forget and only press it once, it won't do anything but remind you to 
press it twice to exit the touch cursor.


That's pretty much it, your control options are pretty limited while 
using the touch cursor. Plus I do not know in what version of JAWS the 
touch cursor was introduced. If you are using a version of JAWS earlier 
than 17, your version  may not have the touch cursor feature.


If I were so inclined, I'd use the new mouse echo feature in JAWS 18 to 
try to use version 3.0. But I'm not, version 1.75 from the jaws-users 
web site's programs page suits me just fine.


Cheers!


On 1/1/2017 8:50 AM, Dacia Cole wrote:

How do you enable the touch cursor?

On 1/1/17, Gene Warner  wrote:

Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.

In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7
Pro
& Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for
the
various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
A
very happy New Year to all!
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi Gene,

No I have not, damn didn't even think about it!  LOL  Anyways, I've already 
uninstalled & went back to MWB 2.2, but will using the Touch Cursor allow me 
to fill in the necessary edit fields to schedule scans & access all settings 
checkboxes?  Thanks for the reminder & your input.  A very happy New Year to 
all!
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Gene Warner
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2017 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws


Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
> settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.
>
> In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7 
> Pro
> & Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for 
> the
> various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho. 
> A
> very happy New Year to all!
> Take care.
> Mike
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi Dacia,

Here are some notes I've collected:
 Original Message
From: Londa Peterson
I have found that I can navigate malwarebytes with the touch cursor. This
even works in Windows 7. In fact, I find that the touch cursor works better
than the JAWS cursor most of the time these days. Sometimes I think I even
get access to more content than I ever did with the JAWS cursor. Give it a
try.
Londa

From: Maria Campbell
Touch cursor in Windows 7?  Where to find it?  How to access it?
Sunny Day
Maria Campbell

From: Londa Peterson
Press shift with the PC cursor command. Press the PC cursor twice to turn it
off. The gestures won't work in Windows 7 of course, but the keyboard
commands will. If you go into JAWS help and search for touch cursor, you
should find a list of the keyboard commands. If you can't find it, I'll post
a copy if necessary.
Londa

From: Dave Carlson
Shift+NumPad Enter will activate touch cursor. Pressing NumPad Enter twice
quickly will return to PC cursor. Haven't experimented yet with it, but it
does come up in Windows 7.
Dave Carlson

From: Dave Carlson
Oops. Should have been NumPad Plus, not NumPad Enter. Sorry.
Dave Carlson

From: Dave Carlson
Here's more information, cut from the JAWS Keyboard Help pages:

Using the Touch Cursor
Certain applications, especially many of the modern-style apps found in
Windows 8, do not always work as expected with JAWS when navigating with the
standard cursors such as the PC and Virtual PC cursors. Activating the new
Touch Cursor enables you to use the ARROW keys on your computer's keyboard,
or the controls on your braille display, to navigate through the actual
objects in an application similar to using gestures on the touch screen of a
tablet. Application objects include everything from menu bars, toolbars, and
progress bars, to form controls, regions, links, etc. Press SHIFT+NUM PAD
PLUS, or SHIFT+CAPS LOCK+SEMICOLON if using the laptop keyboard layout, to
activate the Touch Cursor. To turn it off, activate one of the other
cursors, like the JAWS or PC Cursor. Pressing the PC Cursor command (NUM PAD
PLUS) will cause JAWS to say "Touch Cursor" and the Touch Cursor will remain
active. If Tutor Messages are enabled, JAWS will also speak the message
"Double tap to activate PC cursor". Press the PC Cursor command twice
quickly to turn off the Touch Cursor and activate the PC Cursor.

The Touch Cursor is enabled by default in certain Windows 8 applications to
improve navigation. These apps include News, Weather, and Store. Whenever
you move focus to one of these apps, the Touch Cursor is automatically
activated. To automatically enable the Touch Cursor in another application,
press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings while focused in the application where
you want to use the Touch Cursor, expand the Touch Cursor Options group, and
then select Automatic Activation. You must do this for every application
where you want to have JAWS automatically turn on the Touch Cursor.

Navigating With the Touch Cursor
To move to the next or previous object on the screen, press RIGHT or LEFT
ARROW. You can also use TAB or SHIFT+TAB.

To move by a specific object type, press UP or DOWN ARROW. By default, the
UP and DOWN ARROWS will move by regions, or by groups if you are on the
Windows 8 Start Screen. To change what object type these commands move by,
press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN to cycle through the available types using the
navigation rotor.

For example, if you want the UP or DOWN ARROW keys to move by headings,
press PAGE UP or PAGE DOWN until you hear "headings. Now, pressing UP or
DOWN ARROW will move to the next or previous heading.

Press CTRL+HOME to move to the first object and press CTRL+END to move to
the last object. To announce the current object, press INSERT+UP ARROW. To
perform a Say All, which will cause the Touch Cursor to move through the
application and speak each object, press INSERT+DOWN ARROW.

As you navigate using the ARROW keys, the system focus does not follow the
Touch Cursor. This allows you to freely navigate through objects without
changing the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer. Pressing SPACEBAR
or ENTER on the current object will move focus to that object and perform
the appropriate action. For instance, opening a menu, selecting a check box,
or activating a button or link. In addition, a rectangle will be displayed
around the currently selected object to visually indicate the location of
the Touch cursor for sighted users.

To quickly move the Touch Cursor to the object that currently has focus,
press INSERT+NUM PAD PLUS, or CAPS LOCK+APOSTROPHE if using the laptop
keyboard layout. JAWS will route the Touch Cursor to the currently selected
object and announce it. The Touch Cursor will remain active after performing
this command.

To determine what object types will be announced as you navigate with the
Touch Cursor, press INSERT+V to open Quick Settings, expand the Touch Cursor
Options group, then move to Configure Types. This group lists 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Gene Warner]

Hi Mike!

Have you tried the touch cursor?

Cheers!




On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,

I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.

In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7 Pro
& Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for the
various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.  A
very happy New Year to all!
Take care.
Mike
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Dacia Cole]

How do you enable the touch cursor?

On 1/1/17, Gene Warner  wrote:
> Hi Mike!
>
> Have you tried the touch cursor?
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
>
> On 1/1/2017 7:18 AM, Mike B. wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change
>> settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.
>>
>> In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7
>> Pro
>> & Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for
>> the
>> various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
>> A
>> very happy New Year to all!
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox

[Jim Pursley]

Hey, Mike  Fluing over the cukoo's nest is no fun!  As Christopher Robin 
may have said, Get wellson.


Backson with a solution to the dt icon when I get around to making FF my 
default browser.  The hang up is the vastly different way FF handles 
bookmarkes over IE's favorites.


Happy All Year!

On 1/1/2017 2:10 AM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Again Jim,

Damn, what an idiot!  LOL  Excuse my last reply!  I misread your last post,
but anyways I've been fighting the flu, & have a hard time concentrating.
You as well as all list members & your loved ones, have the very happiest of
New Years!
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox


Thanks Mike.  I'll give it a shot.  It also occurred to me to create the
desktop icon with IE and switch the default browser to FF so that
clicking on it brings up the FF version, which for this one site is
preferable to IE.

Keep on truckin'

Jim

On 12/31/2016 10:29 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Jim,

The only way I was able to create a website desktop shortcut was doing the
following:
1. With the website of choice open press, Control + S, to open the save
dialogue.
2. Tab 1 time into a list of save options, & arrow up / down to the option
you want.
3. Tab to the save button & press enter, or press, Alt + S.
This will save a shortcut to the folder, or wherever your saved downloads
go
to by default.  Now copy it or cut it from the downloads location, & paste
it to your desktop.
I'm not going to swear that the steps above will work every time because
they sure as hell didn't for me!  LOL  But, other than saving as a
Bookmark
& copy / pasting this was the best I could do.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Jim Pursley
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 5:47 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Create desktop shortcut with Firefox


How do I create a desktop shortcut for a web site with Firefox v50?
Running Win7, JAWS 17 latest.  Help indicates only mouse maneuver.



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[JAWS-Users] Malwarebytes 3.0 & Navigating With Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

I just installed MWB 3.0, but I can't activate any of the tabs to change 
settings, schedule a scan, select which type of scan to run.

In short I can't seem to get to any of the settings.  Running Windows 7 Pro 
& Jaws 16 latest.  How do I activate the tabs to change to settings for the 
various tabs?  All help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.  A 
very happy New Year to all!
Take care.
Mike
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