[JAWS-Users] question about ebay.

[michaeel's mail]

Hi guys i just had to leave feed back for a seller.
And when i was going through the options like the item and so on jaws would not 
say if i had selected the button is this normal.
I had to go back to window eyes witch did read if i had selected the buttons.
Cheers Michael.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

[net bat66]

try deleteing your browseing history.  and cookies. this too will erase 
passwords you saved.

try loading firefox in safe mode.
hold down the shift key then click on the firefox desktop icon.
then run in safe mode.
this will run with none of the add ons running. but will not erase anything.
if you set it back to where it was first installed it will erase everything. 
bookmarks, saved passwords, browseing history, firefox colors etc.

so do this as a last resort.

-Original Message- 
From: Jared Rimer

Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:23 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

Usually this happens with an extension or something with firefox itself.
 I've been on youtube a little bit and no issues.  I would try a reboot
to see if its a memory thing.   Are you running the latest firefox, and
how many tabs are open?  Could be a memory issue if there are a lot of
tabs open.

On 6/4/2017 18:11, Judy Jones wrote:

This is coming up quite a few times, and the page is able to be recovered
very quickly, but this is happening more than I care to deal with.  The main
sites I get on are Youtube, Amazon, Facebook, the NFB site, rusc.com, to
name a few.  These aren't little-known sites with issues.  Oh, yes,
Bookshare and BARD as well.


Judy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

[Jared Rimer]

Usually this happens with an extension or something with firefox itself. 
 I've been on youtube a little bit and no issues.  I would try a reboot 
to see if its a memory thing.   Are you running the latest firefox, and 
how many tabs are open?  Could be a memory issue if there are a lot of 
tabs open.


On 6/4/2017 18:11, Judy Jones wrote:

This is coming up quite a few times, and the page is able to be recovered
very quickly, but this is happening more than I care to deal with.  The main
sites I get on are Youtube, Amazon, Facebook, the NFB site, rusc.com, to
name a few.  These aren't little-known sites with issues.  Oh, yes,
Bookshare and BARD as well.

  


Judy

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

[Jared Rimer]

I've not had any problem looking at Tom either, and i have mine set to 
echo keys too.  I've been thinking on why it would be an issue, and i'm 
on 7 64 bit.


On 6/4/2017 17:14, Mike B. wrote:

Hi Danny,

I'm running Windows 7, Pro 64 bit, Jaws 16, & Vocalizer Tom high premium.  I
just installed this vocalizer Tom voice this afternoon, & when changing the
typing echo using, Insert + 2, all typing echo options work as they are
supposed to in all applications.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Danny
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo


I am using vocalizer Tom and have set it both from the settings manager for
default and from using the insert _ 2 keys to cycle through the options.  In
doing some futher testing I find that if I set it to characters I get
nothing when I type, if I set it to characters and words I do not get
characters but do get words, and if I set it to words only I get the words
when I hit space.  It appears that only the character settings are not
working for some reason, sounds kind of strange.

Danny

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

Danny, just in case, where are you making this setting? With JAWS key+2 on
the number row?

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Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

I am a new JAWS user and have the following problem.

I have echo set to characters or change it to characters and words and get
no echo when typing in JAWS, however, when I backspace it echo's the
characters deleted.  Any ideas on what may be happening?

 Danny
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Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

[Judy Jones]

Thank you so much!



Judy
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- Original Message -
From: Kevin  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

>
>
> I went into the security tab and unchecked the remember passwords and now 
> firefox no longer asks if I wanna save passwords
> 
> but I found an article that said alt+you is yes I want to save the password
> alt+not is no I don't want to save it
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Judy Jones
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:08 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.
> 
> Here here!  And any other alerts it asks you.  How do you access those?
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Audiobookfan
> Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:08 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.
> 
> I, too, want to know the answer to this question. For example, Firefox asks
> me if I want to save a password, but I cannot figure out where to answer
> that question. I'm running the latest Firefox with JAWS 18 under Windows 10.
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On 6/3/2017 7:35 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> You know when you want to download something or access the information
> bar with Internet Explorer using Alt-N?  How do you access this in
> FireFox?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Judy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] A Firefox Question.

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Kevin. I can't figure out how to get into the Firefox security tab. Can 
you explain? I have v. 53.0.3.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

I went into the security tab and unchecked the remember passwords and now 
firefox no longer asks if I wanna save passwords

but I found an article that said alt+y is yes I want to save the password
alt+n is no I don't want to save it

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

Here here!  And any other alerts it asks you.  How do you access those?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

I, too, want to know the answer to this question. For example, Firefox asks me 
if I want to save a password, but I cannot figure out where to answer that 
question. I'm running the latest Firefox with JAWS 18 under Windows 10.

Jeff


On 6/3/2017 7:35 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> You know when you want to download something or access the information 
> bar with Internet Explorer using Alt-N?  How do you access this in
FireFox?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Judy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

[Kevin]

can I suggest to submit firefox feedback, it's in the firefox help  press 
alt key to get the menu bar, arrow to help then arrow down to feedback


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 7:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

This is happening to me also, to a degree that is becoming much less
acceptable.

And, it is the reason that I am seriously considering dropping Firefox, and
moving to Chrome as my main internet browser.

Obviously, the latest versions of Firefox are becoming less and less stable,
which to me represents a significant backward step.

I just don't have the desire or inclination to deal with these sorts of
issues, which seem to relate to software design flaws more than anything
else.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

This is coming up quite a few times, and the page is able to be recovered
very quickly, but this is happening more than I care to deal with.  The main
sites I get on are Youtube, Amazon, Facebook, the NFB site, rusc.com, to
name a few.  These aren't little-known sites with issues.  Oh, yes,
Bookshare and BARD as well.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

[Kevin]

I went into the security tab and unchecked the remember passwords and now 
firefox no longer asks if I wanna save passwords


but I found an article that said alt+y is yes I want to save the password
alt+n is no I don't want to save it

-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

Here here!  And any other alerts it asks you.  How do you access those?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

I, too, want to know the answer to this question. For example, Firefox asks
me if I want to save a password, but I cannot figure out where to answer
that question. I'm running the latest Firefox with JAWS 18 under Windows 10.

Jeff


On 6/3/2017 7:35 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello Everyone,

You know when you want to download something or access the information
bar with Internet Explorer using Alt-N?  How do you access this in

FireFox?


Thanks.

Judy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

[Judy Jones]

I will be totally happy if I can trust Google Chrome to see everything that
is on the web page.  My glaring example is m.facebook.com where the events
link that takes you to upcoming events, birthdays, and creating events is
totally missing.  If anyone has an answer to this one, they will be the
Google Chrome hero of the day hahahhaaha!

Thanks to all.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

This is happening to me also, to a degree that is becoming much less
acceptable.

And, it is the reason that I am seriously considering dropping Firefox, and
moving to Chrome as my main internet browser.

Obviously, the latest versions of Firefox are becoming less and less stable,
which to me represents a significant backward step.

I just don't have the desire or inclination to deal with these sorts of
issues, which seem to relate to software design flaws more than anything
else.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

This is coming up quite a few times, and the page is able to be recovered
very quickly, but this is happening more than I care to deal with.  The main
sites I get on are Youtube, Amazon, Facebook, the NFB site, rusc.com, to
name a few.  These aren't little-known sites with issues.  Oh, yes,
Bookshare and BARD as well.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

[Tom Behler]

This is happening to me also, to a degree that is becoming much less
acceptable.

And, it is the reason that I am seriously considering dropping Firefox, and
moving to Chrome as my main internet browser.

Obviously, the latest versions of Firefox are becoming less and less stable,
which to me represents a significant backward step.

I just don't have the desire or inclination to deal with these sorts of
issues, which seem to relate to software design flaws more than anything
else.

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

This is coming up quite a few times, and the page is able to be recovered
very quickly, but this is happening more than I care to deal with.  The main
sites I get on are Youtube, Amazon, Facebook, the NFB site, rusc.com, to
name a few.  These aren't little-known sites with issues.  Oh, yes,
Bookshare and BARD as well.

 

Judy

 

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[JAWS-Users] FireFox Crash Reporter.

[Judy Jones]

This is coming up quite a few times, and the page is able to be recovered
very quickly, but this is happening more than I care to deal with.  The main
sites I get on are Youtube, Amazon, Facebook, the NFB site, rusc.com, to
name a few.  These aren't little-known sites with issues.  Oh, yes,
Bookshare and BARD as well.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

[Judy Jones]

Here here!  And any other alerts it asks you.  How do you access those?

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.

I, too, want to know the answer to this question. For example, Firefox asks
me if I want to save a password, but I cannot figure out where to answer
that question. I'm running the latest Firefox with JAWS 18 under Windows 10.

Jeff


On 6/3/2017 7:35 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> You know when you want to download something or access the information 
> bar with Internet Explorer using Alt-N?  How do you access this in
FireFox?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Judy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Judy Jones]

I still did not get my question answered about the Events Link.  I cannot
find it when using Google Chrome.  I also use m.facebook.com.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

That didn't work neither did shift enter or using the links list.  Keep the
ideas coming I will try all of them.

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Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

I wonder if moving cursor to the middle of the word "share" would do it, or
using the links list, as suggested in an earlier post.



Judy
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- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:23 pm
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

>
>
> Hi, when on 
> 
> m.facebook.com
> 
> you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Judy Jones]

I thought this was related to Google Chrome.

Judy


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Behalf Of regilman
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Let's be sure to start a new message when asking a new question. Thanks, Bob
Moderator

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Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Hi, when on 

m.facebook.com

you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[Judy Jones]

Thanks

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Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:14 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

You don't necessarily need to be in the middle of the word, just go past the
first character.  Hope this helps.

On 6/4/2017 15:51, Judy Jones wrote:
> I used the links list feature I use all the time in a web page, but 
> had not thought about using it in the e-mail, no-brainer hahahaha, and 
> it worked.  I will also remember to arrow to the middle of the word to
try.
> 
> Thanks loads.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Jared Rimer
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 4:29 PM
> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.
> 
> If it detects it as a link, it should work, or move your cursor from 
> within the word and try to press enter.  Let us know if it works.
> 
> On 6/4/2017 07:56, Judy Jones wrote:
>> Hmm!  There is no http address, but the word Verify, and Jaws 
>> announces it as a link.  I didn't think of the links list in that 
>> context, but wonder if it won't throw me back into the info bar again.
> Will try it, thanks.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of David Whitehead
>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.
>>
>> Hello;
>> Well, one way to open the link is;
>> First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the 
>> address, now press enter, The second way is, to use the keystroke,
>> insert+f7 to bring up a list of links.
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>
>>  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is 
>> suggestive, but what they conceal is vital.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
>> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.
>>
>> Hello, Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a 
>> message, but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to 
>> me at work one time, but I was able to find the option to open the 
>> link by
> right-clicking.
>> Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.
>>
>>
>>
>> Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Dennis Long]

That didn't work neither did shift enter or using the links list.  Keep the
ideas coming I will try all of them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

I wonder if moving cursor to the middle of the word "share" would do it, or
using the links list, as suggested in an earlier post.



Judy
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- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:23 pm
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

>
>
> Hi, when on 
> 
> m.facebook.com
> 
> you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?
> 
>  
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

[Mike B.]

Hi Danny,

I'm running Windows 7, Pro 64 bit, Jaws 16, & Vocalizer Tom high premium.  I 
just installed this vocalizer Tom voice this afternoon, & when changing the 
typing echo using, Insert + 2, all typing echo options work as they are 
supposed to in all applications.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Danny
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo


I am using vocalizer Tom and have set it both from the settings manager for
default and from using the insert _ 2 keys to cycle through the options.  In
doing some futher testing I find that if I set it to characters I get
nothing when I type, if I set it to characters and words I do not get
characters but do get words, and if I set it to words only I get the words
when I hit space.  It appears that only the character settings are not
working for some reason, sounds kind of strange.

Danny

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

Danny, just in case, where are you making this setting? With JAWS key+2 on
the number row?

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

I am a new JAWS user and have the following problem.

I have echo set to characters or change it to characters and words and get
no echo when typing in JAWS, however, when I backspace it echo's the
characters deleted.  Any ideas on what may be happening?

Danny
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Flor Lynch]

Hello.
I am now typing using character echo with a Vocalizer Expressive voice 
(Moira), and it's working as it should: very zippy in fact.



-Original Message- 
From: Judy Jones

Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 1:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

I wonder if moving cursor to the middle of the word "share" would do it, or 
using the links list, as suggested in an earlier post.




Judy
sent from the U2 Mini

- Original Message -

From: Dennis Long  

To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC:
Date: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:23 pm
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem




Hi, when on

m.facebook.com

you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Flor Lynch]

Try Shift Plus enter. No guarantees it'll do anything though. 

-Original Message- 
From: regilman 
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 12:49 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem 


Let's be sure to start a new message when asking a new question. Thanks,
Bob
Moderator

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Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Hi, when on 


m.facebook.com

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[JAWS-Users] problem with Google Chrome and m.facebook.com

[Dennis Long]

I'm changing the subject as it was similar to another subject with Chrome.

Hi, when on 

m.facebook.com

you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Dennis Long]

I did start a new message.

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Behalf Of regilman
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Let's be sure to start a new message when asking a new question. Thanks, Bob
Moderator

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Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Hi, when on 

m.facebook.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Judy Jones]

I wonder if moving cursor to the middle of the word "share" would do it, or 
using the links list, as suggested in an earlier post.



Judy
sent from the U2 Mini

- Original Message -
From: Dennis Long  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC: 
Date: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:23 pm
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

>
>
> Hi, when on 
> 
> m.facebook.com
> 
> you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[regilman]

Let's be sure to start a new message when asking a new question. Thanks,
Bob
Moderator

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Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 7:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Hi, when on 

m.facebook.com

you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

[Danny]

I am using vocalizer Tom and have set it both from the settings manager for 
default and from using the insert _ 2 keys to cycle through the options.  In 
doing some futher testing I find that if I set it to characters I get 
nothing when I type, if I set it to characters and words I do not get 
characters but do get words, and if I set it to words only I get the words 
when I hit space.  It appears that only the character settings are not 
working for some reason, sounds kind of strange.


Danny

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

Danny, just in case, where are you making this setting? With JAWS key+2 on 
the number row?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Danny

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with character echo

I am a new JAWS user and have the following problem.

I have echo set to characters or change it to characters and words and get 
no echo when typing in JAWS, however, when I backspace it echo's the 
characters deleted.  Any ideas on what may be happening?


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[JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Dennis Long]

Hi, when on 

m.facebook.com

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[Jared Rimer]

You don't necessarily need to be in the middle of the word, just go past 
the first character.  Hope this helps.


On 6/4/2017 15:51, Judy Jones wrote:

I used the links list feature I use all the time in a web page, but had not
thought about using it in the e-mail, no-brainer hahahaha, and it worked.  I
will also remember to arrow to the middle of the word to try.

Thanks loads.

Judy


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Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 4:29 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

If it detects it as a link, it should work, or move your cursor from within
the word and try to press enter.  Let us know if it works.

On 6/4/2017 07:56, Judy Jones wrote:

Hmm!  There is no http address, but the word Verify, and Jaws
announces it as a link.  I didn't think of the links list in that
context, but wonder if it won't throw me back into the info bar again.

Will try it, thanks.


Judy


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On Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello;
Well, one way to open the link is;
First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the
address, now press enter, The second way is, to use the keystroke,
insert+f7 to bring up a list of links.
Hope this helps.


 Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive,
but what they conceal is vital.

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On Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello, Everyone,

   


What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a
message, but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to
me at work one time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by

right-clicking.

Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.

   


Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.

   


Judy

   


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[Judy Jones]

I used the links list feature I use all the time in a web page, but had not
thought about using it in the e-mail, no-brainer hahahaha, and it worked.  I
will also remember to arrow to the middle of the word to try.

Thanks loads.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 4:29 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

If it detects it as a link, it should work, or move your cursor from within
the word and try to press enter.  Let us know if it works.

On 6/4/2017 07:56, Judy Jones wrote:
> Hmm!  There is no http address, but the word Verify, and Jaws 
> announces it as a link.  I didn't think of the links list in that 
> context, but wonder if it won't throw me back into the info bar again.
Will try it, thanks.
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of David Whitehead
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.
> 
> Hello;
> Well, one way to open the link is;
> First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the 
> address, now press enter, The second way is, to use the keystroke, 
> insert+f7 to bring up a list of links.
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
> Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, 
> but what they conceal is vital.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Judy Jones
> Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.
> 
> Hello, Everyone,
> 
>   
> 
> What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a 
> message, but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to 
> me at work one time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by
right-clicking.
> Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.
> 
>   
> 
> Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.
> 
>   
> 
> Judy
> 
>   
> 
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> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[Jared Rimer]

If it detects it as a link, it should work, or move your cursor from 
within the word and try to press enter.  Let us know if it works.


On 6/4/2017 07:56, Judy Jones wrote:

Hmm!  There is no http address, but the word Verify, and Jaws announces
it as a link.  I didn't think of the links list in that context, but wonder
if it won't throw me back into the info bar again.  Will try it, thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello;
Well, one way to open the link is;
First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the
address, now press enter, The second way is, to use the keystroke, insert+f7
to bring up a list of links.
Hope this helps.


Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello, Everyone,

  


What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a message,
but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to me at work one
time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by right-clicking.
Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.

  


Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.

  


Judy

  


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Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

[Jared Rimer]

Hello Steve,

I want to get away from MSE because it doesn't seem to pick up anything, 
even if I don't download anything.  Once it picked up a file as temp 
files and said it was something, but most of the time it says nothing. 
I'm on windows 7 64 bit, and was looking for something else.  I've used 
Trend Micro's house call tool which does scanning and updating of its 
engine through the download, but it seems to be only doing one drive. 
MSE does my whole machine, but I was curious if there was something else 
out there besides MSE that would be more reliable.  I haven't made any 
changes yet, someone said I aught to install it and see, but now i'm not 
sure.  Its sad that nobody is accessible anymore, I do practice good web 
habits, have read up and listen to security podcasts, and I am careful, 
but with the threats today, something is always needed and was looking 
for something that would be a bit better than my experience lately with 
MSE.  Thanks for your thoughts.


On 6/4/2017 09:07, Steve wrote:
Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender 
a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows 
before Windows 10.  Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to 
periodically run a double-check on your system along with practicing 
good web habits i.e. avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and 
opening unknown email attachments or links.


I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible.  You 
may need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if 
you haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use 
that to initiate a scan.  But, at least the results are viewable and 
since it isn't always running, you don't need to try to configure it to 
play nice with certain sites or programs.  That's why I prefer Windows 
Defender.


Steve
- Original Message - From: "Tom Fairhurst" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question


I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read 
anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can 
read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these 
would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I 
too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA 
did a little better, but it was not perfect.


-Original Message- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

OK,

I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended
to me.  Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws?

On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote:

The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/
I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible.
That's at least 10 years or so ago.
But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven.
But I highly recommend sophos.
https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu 

m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos 

they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection 
from
them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like 
the

UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for
home, so you should try them.


regards
Thomas N. Chan

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it.  Do
you have a link?

On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote:


Hello,

I am using Panda, the free version of Panda.

In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of 
JAWS

and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use
the tab to go from option to option.

I wish you success.

Aran

-Original Message- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus.  
Part of

the page says:

The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to
use the EICAR test file.

The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European
Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and
Computer Antivirus Research Organization.

To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a
blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:"

The URL to the full post is at:

https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki 


ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter


for your review.  When i went to send the original message intending to
keep things 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome and the tool bar

[Judy Jones]

Okay, now, regarding Facebook.  When I want to check upcoming events,
FireFox and IE show that link, Google Chrome does not.  Do I need to tweak
settings in any way so that events link will show?

Thanks.

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Greg Wocher
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 3:31 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome and the tool bar

Hello,
To get to the tool bar in Chrome use the F6 key. You might have to hit it a
couple of times. F6 will cycle you from the web page to the address bar and
the other tool bars if there are any. You can also try activating the touch
cursor in JAWS and finding the tool bar that way.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On Jun 4, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Judy  wrote:
> 
> Hi, when I open up Google chrome and try to get to the tool bar usint 
> alt and t or alt and x it doesn't bring up anything. How do you get to 
> the tool bar in Chrome?  Judy & Libby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome and the tool bar

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
To get to the tool bar in Chrome use the F6 key. You might have to hit it a 
couple of times. F6 will cycle you from the web page to the address bar and the 
other tool bars if there are any. You can also try activating the touch cursor 
in JAWS and finding the tool bar that way.

Regards,
Greg Wocher
> On Jun 4, 2017, at 4:05 PM, Judy  wrote:
> 
> Hi, when I open up Google chrome and try to get to the tool bar usint alt
> and t or alt and x it doesn't bring up anything. How do you get to the tool
> bar in Chrome?  Judy & Libby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Judy Jones]

Here here!  Some things were broken in Jaws 17.  I had Jaws 16 at work for a
long time and it served me well.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kenny
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

Press the [f6] key until you're placed in the Address bar field. 
[Tab] once and you should be placed in the Toolbar. Then you simply use the
left and right arrow keys to navigate to each toolbar entry and hit [Enter]
or [Spacebar] to activate it.

At 06:01 PM 5/25/2017, you wrote:
>Hi
>
>Yeah, I'm finding out that most people that aren't using the latest 
>version of JAWS are using version 16, which is encouraging.
>
>I use Windows 7 because I hated the Metro interface Microsoft tried to 
>force on us in Windows 8, and because I believe Microsoft is over 
>reaching their authority with some of the changes they made in Windows 
>10. It's my Computer damn it! And nobody but me has the right to tell 
>me what software runs on it! When they restore the user's ability to 
>decide which updates get installed on their computers, among other 
>things, then I'll consider Windows 10.
>
>I used to have Office XP which I really liked, but gave it to my dad 
>and got Office 2007 because I could get it for $10 through my employer. 
>If I could have, I'd have gotten 2003 to avoid the ribbons.
>
>So far JAWS 16 is proving to be quite stable, however the dictionary 
>manager still keeps crashing when it is first run, I was hoping that 
>that was a version 17 and 18 problem that would go away with the switch 
>to 16, oh well.
>
>I found out that it gets pricey if you let your SMA lapse, so for $5 a 
>month, I'll keep it current even if I don't use those newer versions of
JAWS.
>
>Later...
>
>
>
>
>On 5/25/2017 4:52 PM, John M. wrote:
>>Hi Gene,
>>
>>I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found 
>>that some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my 
>>opinion, version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After 
>>the upgrade, I had nothing but problems. After several months of 
>>struggling, I eventually installed version 16 and that is what I am 
>>still using today. I tried version 18 for a short while, but it was 
>>still not as stable and reliable as version 16. I am using Windows 7 
>>also. One more thing...I still use Office 2003, because I just like it 
>>a lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003 was terrible.
>>
>>I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because 
>>you can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version 
>>of Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or 
>>hardware, doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. 
>>I rely on my computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my 
>>clients. I demand that my core software is extremely stable and 
>>reliable. I have Jaws SMAs through version 20. I don't know if I will 
>>actually switch to those versions. Time will tell.
>>
>>Best,
>>John
>>
>>
>>- Original Message - From: "Gene Warner" 
>>
>>To: "JAWS Users" 
>>Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
>>Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16
>>
>>
>>>Hi everyone!
>>>
>>>Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to 
>>>switch from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.
>>>
>>>As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the 
>>>Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had 
>>>with it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with 
>>>the addition of the very useful command search function.
>>>
>>>Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the 
>>>engine. From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was 
>>>running into another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came 
>>>out wasn't much better.
>>>
>>>So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently 
>>>recalcitrant version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version
>>>16 to see how it compares to version 18. If it works as well as my 
>>>memory of it recalls, I will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and 
>>>consider not maintaining my SMA anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction 
>>>with versions 17 and 18, it seems like most of the enhancements are 
>>>for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows 7 system which I have 
>>>no plans to upgrade. If things do change for the better in the 
>>>future, I can always reestablish a new SMA.
>>>
>>>I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has 
>>>already preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>Later...
>>>
>>>For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>>http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16

[Kenny]

Press the [f6] key until you're placed in the Address bar field. 
[Tab] once and you should be placed in the Toolbar. Then you simply 
use the left and right arrow keys to navigate to each toolbar entry 
and hit [Enter] or [Spacebar] to activate it.


At 06:01 PM 5/25/2017, you wrote:

Hi

Yeah, I'm finding out that most people that aren't using the latest 
version of JAWS are using version 16, which is encouraging.


I use Windows 7 because I hated the Metro interface Microsoft tried 
to force on us in Windows 8, and because I believe Microsoft is over 
reaching their authority with some of the changes they made in 
Windows 10. It's my Computer damn it! And nobody but me has the 
right to tell me what software runs on it! When they restore the 
user's ability to decide which updates get installed on their 
computers, among other things, then I'll consider Windows 10.


I used to have Office XP which I really liked, but gave it to my dad 
and got Office 2007 because I could get it for $10 through my 
employer. If I could have, I'd have gotten 2003 to avoid the ribbons.


So far JAWS 16 is proving to be quite stable, however the dictionary 
manager still keeps crashing when it is first run, I was hoping that 
that was a version 17 and 18 problem that would go away with the 
switch to 16, oh well.


I found out that it gets pricey if you let your SMA lapse, so for $5 
a month, I'll keep it current even if I don't use those newer versions of JAWS.


Later...




On 5/25/2017 4:52 PM, John M. wrote:

Hi Gene,

I have been using Jaws since version 5. Over the years, I have found
that some versions of Jaws are very good and others are junk. In my
opinion, version 17 is junk. I had upgraded from Jaws 15 to 17. After
the upgrade, I had nothing but problems. After several months of
struggling, I eventually installed version 16 and that is what I am
still using today. I tried version 18 for a short while, but it was
still not as stable and reliable as version 16. I am using Windows 7
also. One more thing...I still use Office 2003, because I just like it a
lot. Jaws version 17 support for Office 2003 was terrible.

I always go back to a saying that I have used for years--"Just because
you can doesn't mean you should.". Just because there is a new version
of Windows or Office or Jaws or any other piece of software or hardware,
doesn't mean you have to rush to install it or purchase it. I rely on my
computer on a daily basis to do my job and service my clients. I demand
that my core software is extremely stable and reliable. I have Jaws SMAs
through version 20. I don't know if I will actually switch to those
versions. Time will tell.

Best,
John


- Original Message - From: "Gene Warner" 
To: "JAWS Users" 
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:25 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Downgrading to JAWS 16



Hi everyone!

Back in 2013, when I was finally declared legally blind and had to
switch from Zoom Text to JAWS, JAWS was at version 15.

As I recall, other than having to learn it on my own because the
Lighthouse here is a bad joke, there were few, if any problems I had
with it, it just worked. JAWS 16 was pretty much the same but with the
addition of the very useful command search function.

Then came JAWS 17 with the apparent almost complete rewrite of the
engine. From there it seemed like every time I turned around I was
running into another misfunction of JAWS. Version 18, when it came out
wasn't much better.

So, after long thought, as well as fighting an apparently
recalcitrant version of JAWS, I've finally decided to install version
16 to see how it compares to version 18. If it works as well as my
memory of it recalls, I will eventually uninstall JAWS 18, and
consider not maintaining my SMA anymore. Besides my dissatisfaction
with versions 17 and 18, it seems like most of the enhancements are
for Windows 10 and have no effect on my Windows 7 system which I have
no plans to upgrade. If things do change for the better in the future,
I can always reestablish a new SMA.

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this idea or has
already preceded me in downgrading back to version 16.

Thanks!

Later...

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome and the tool bar

[Judy Jones]

And - What am I supposed to find on this page?

Judy


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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 2:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Chrome and the tool bar

Hi, when I open up Google chrome and try to get to the tool bar usint alt
and t or alt and x it doesn't bring up anything. How do you get to the tool
bar in Chrome?  Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] Chrome and the tool bar

[Judy]

Hi, when I open up Google chrome and try to get to the tool bar usint alt
and t or alt and x it doesn't bring up anything. How do you get to the tool
bar in Chrome?  Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.

[Judy Jones]

Hi, Rick,

I did look through the key commands, but not seeing any that addressmost of
my questions below.  

Judy

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.

Hi Judy,
While in Chrome, press the Jaws key + H for a list of helpful keystrokes.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.


Here are Google Chrome questions I have come up with so far.

1.  When in an address bar, with Internet Explorer, I was able to press F6
to get back into the main page.  How does one do this with Google Chrome?

2.  I also have found that for instance on Amazon, that some checkboxes and
combo boxes don't appear as such, and I cannot makeappropriate choices that
I can see offered in internet explorer.

3.  On Youtube, for instance, I could jump by headings or buttons, as the
need arose, but don't seem to navigate as easily with Google Chrome.

4.  On facebook, for instance, I do not find an events option when I want to
check birthdays or other upcoming events.  I could always see the link for
that on my FB home page with Internet Explorer.

The reason I would like to switch to Chrome is that I find it to work much
faster.  I have Internet Explorer 11, and it seems to get hung up with Jaws
sometimes when trying to open a web site.  I am using Jaws 18, I saw the
same behavior in Jaws 17, and at times I would actually lose Jaws and would
have to reload it.

I'm sure I'll come up with more questions as they arise.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.

[Judy Jones]

Will try that, thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.

Hi Judy,
While in Chrome, press the Jaws key + H for a list of helpful keystrokes.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.


Here are Google Chrome questions I have come up with so far.

1.  When in an address bar, with Internet Explorer, I was able to press F6
to get back into the main page.  How does one do this with Google Chrome?

2.  I also have found that for instance on Amazon, that some checkboxes and
combo boxes don't appear as such, and I cannot makeappropriate choices that
I can see offered in internet explorer.

3.  On Youtube, for instance, I could jump by headings or buttons, as the
need arose, but don't seem to navigate as easily with Google Chrome.

4.  On facebook, for instance, I do not find an events option when I want to
check birthdays or other upcoming events.  I could always see the link for
that on my FB home page with Internet Explorer.

The reason I would like to switch to Chrome is that I find it to work much
faster.  I have Internet Explorer 11, and it seems to get hung up with Jaws
sometimes when trying to open a web site.  I am using Jaws 18, I saw the
same behavior in Jaws 17, and at times I would actually lose Jaws and would
have to reload it.

I'm sure I'll come up with more questions as they arise.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[Judy Jones]

I tried your idea.  No, there is not an address at that link, just labeled
with the word, Verify, but I pulled up the links list just like you said and
was able to get to the page, so thanks very much, it worked.

Judy


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello; well, my point was,
If you arrow in the message, and you hear a link;

Example, www.myplace.com
Just use the right arrow key to move inside the link, and then press enter.
I normally go past the www. And to the first letter and press enter.
Are you 100% there's a link within the message?
Maybe there's some kind of graphic within the link.
Where it says, link click here!

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hmm!  There is no http address, but the word Verify, and Jaws announces
it as a link.  I didn't think of the links list in that context, but wonder
if it won't throw me back into the info bar again.  Will try it, thanks.

Judy


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Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello;
Well, one way to open the link is;
First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the
address, now press enter, The second way is, to use the keystroke, insert+f7
to bring up a list of links.
Hope this helps.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello, Everyone,

 

What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a message,
but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to me at work one
time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by right-clicking.
Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.

 

Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

[Jim Flusche]

OK, that explains it, Yes, you must use num pad insert+J, to open the Jaws 
options page. But if you have that insert key turned off, then now I see what 
you mean. Smiles.

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Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 1:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

i have tried it both ways. grin.
right now i am useing laptop layout and in the system tray.
my keys that open the context menu are the jaws capslock, shift, and control.
the insert key works if i tell jaws to use the insert key in the settings 
center.
i forgot i have to turn this off because i have a program just checking that 
uses the insert key for most of its shortcut keys and can not be changed.
that is why the insert j keys don't work.
thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Are you running Jaws from the system tray? Pressing Insert+J, will open the 
Jaws page. The reasons I run Jaws from the system tray are, takes the Jaws 
window out of the way when doing a ALT+Tab, also in windows 10, when you press 
windows key+M, you have to press it twice to go to the desktop.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

with me  and the laptop layout insert jay or capslock j doesn't do anything.
i have to click on the jaws desktop icon  or my shortcut keys control alt j to 
bring up that context menu.

Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Hi Jaws users list, In my continued effort to do my part in helping all the 
users of window eyes learn how to use Jaws 18, please read below.
How to access and use the Jaws help topics system.
Most of this material was taken directly from the Jaws help system of the Jaws
18 version, provided by the VFO group.
I take no credit for this material, I am only using this as a learning tool, to 
teach new Jaws users how to use Jaws.

If you are using Jaws to run from the system tray like I recommend.
Press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options window.
*Tip, if you are not running Jaws from the system tray, press ALT+Tab, 
highlight the Jaws window, press ALT+F, to bring up the same menu.
Press the letter H, opens the help section of the Jaws window.
Down arrow to, Jaws help topics, press Enter.
*Tip, press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options page, press the letter H, followed 
by the letter J, to directly open the Jaws help topics page.
You will hear:
JAWS 18 Help, Contents page, Tree view
Introduction book open, 9 items
This is a simple tree view of Jaws help books.
Press the Right arrow key to open any category, press the left arrow key to 
close any open category.
Press Enter followed by the F6 key, to open that section of the Jaws help 
system.
For example.
After pressing the Insert+J, to open the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter H, to go to the Help section of the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter J, you will be directly taken to, the Jaws help 
topics page.
After you press the down arrow key to, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing the F6 key, you will see the following page in the Jaws help 
HTML system:
*Tip, remember HTML, means that you can press H, for headings, press the Tab 
key to jump by links, press Insert+F7, to display a Jaws links list, and so on.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors, and pressing the F6 key, press
Control+Home, to go to the top of the page, down arrow through the page, 
Control+you
will hear.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.
These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked 
with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through options 
in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.
As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press.
If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights 
the currently selected object.
The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a 
different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice 
quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other 
applications.
It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot 

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

[net bat66]

i have tried it both ways. grin.
right now i am useing laptop layout and in the system tray.
my keys that open the context menu are the jaws capslock, shift, and control.
the insert key works if i tell jaws to use the insert key in the settings 
center.
i forgot i have to turn this off because i have a program just checking that 
uses the insert key for most of its shortcut keys and can not be changed.

that is why the insert j keys don't work.
thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Are you running Jaws from the system tray? Pressing Insert+J, will open the 
Jaws page. The reasons I run Jaws from the system tray are, takes the Jaws 
window out of the way when doing a ALT+Tab, also in windows 10, when you press 
windows key+M, you have to press it twice to go to the desktop.




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of net bat66

Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

with me  and the laptop layout insert jay or capslock j doesn't do anything.
i have to click on the jaws desktop icon  or my shortcut keys control alt j to 
bring up that context menu.


Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Hi Jaws users list, In my continued effort to do my part in helping all the 
users of window eyes learn how to use Jaws 18, please read below.

How to access and use the Jaws help topics system.
Most of this material was taken directly from the Jaws help system of the Jaws
18 version, provided by the VFO group.
I take no credit for this material, I am only using this as a learning tool, to 
teach new Jaws users how to use Jaws.


If you are using Jaws to run from the system tray like I recommend.
Press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options window.
*Tip, if you are not running Jaws from the system tray, press ALT+Tab, 
highlight the Jaws window, press ALT+F, to bring up the same menu.

Press the letter H, opens the help section of the Jaws window.
Down arrow to, Jaws help topics, press Enter.
*Tip, press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options page, press the letter H, followed 
by the letter J, to directly open the Jaws help topics page.

You will hear:
JAWS 18 Help, Contents page, Tree view
Introduction book open, 9 items
This is a simple tree view of Jaws help books.
Press the Right arrow key to open any category, press the left arrow key to 
close any open category.
Press Enter followed by the F6 key, to open that section of the Jaws help 
system.

For example.
After pressing the Insert+J, to open the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter H, to go to the Help section of the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter J, you will be directly taken to, the Jaws help 
topics page.

After you press the down arrow key to, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing the F6 key, you will see the following page in the Jaws help 
HTML system:
*Tip, remember HTML, means that you can press H, for headings, press the Tab 
key to jump by links, press Insert+F7, to display a Jaws links list, and so on.

After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors, and pressing the F6 key, press
Control+Home, to go to the top of the page, down arrow through the page,
Control+you
will hear.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.
These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked 
with Windows cursors.


The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through options 
in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.

As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press.
If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights 
the currently selected object.
The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a 
different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice 
quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.


The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other 
applications.
It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar 
information.
The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you 
therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond 
the scope of the PC Cursor.

To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing the 
position of the PC Cursor or 

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

[Rick Justice]

In Windows 10, pressing Windows + D, should put you on the Desktop every 
time.
Windows + M hasn't worked well since Windows 8.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

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From: "Jim Flusche" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system


Are you running Jaws from the system tray? Pressing Insert+J, will open the 
Jaws page. The reasons I run Jaws from the system tray are, takes the Jaws 
window out of the way when doing a ALT+Tab, also in windows 10, when you 
press windows key+M, you have to press it twice to go to the desktop.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

with me  and the laptop layout insert jay or capslock j doesn't do anything.
i have to click on the jaws desktop icon  or my shortcut keys control alt j 
to bring up that context menu.

Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Hi Jaws users list, In my continued effort to do my part in helping all the 
users of window eyes learn how to use Jaws 18, please read below.
How to access and use the Jaws help topics system.
Most of this material was taken directly from the Jaws help system of the 
Jaws
18 version, provided by the VFO group.
I take no credit for this material, I am only using this as a learning tool, 
to teach new Jaws users how to use Jaws.

If you are using Jaws to run from the system tray like I recommend.
Press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options window.
*Tip, if you are not running Jaws from the system tray, press ALT+Tab, 
highlight the Jaws window, press ALT+F, to bring up the same menu.
Press the letter H, opens the help section of the Jaws window.
Down arrow to, Jaws help topics, press Enter.
*Tip, press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options page, press the letter H, 
followed by the letter J, to directly open the Jaws help topics page.
You will hear:
JAWS 18 Help, Contents page, Tree view
Introduction book open, 9 items
This is a simple tree view of Jaws help books.
Press the Right arrow key to open any category, press the left arrow key to 
close any open category.
Press Enter followed by the F6 key, to open that section of the Jaws help 
system.
For example.
After pressing the Insert+J, to open the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter H, to go to the Help section of the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter J, you will be directly taken to, the Jaws help 
topics page.
After you press the down arrow key to, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing the F6 key, you will see the following page in the Jaws help 
HTML system:
*Tip, remember HTML, means that you can press H, for headings, press the Tab 
key to jump by links, press Insert+F7, to display a Jaws links list, and so 
on.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors, and pressing the F6 key, press
Control+Home, to go to the top of the page, down arrow through the page,
Control+you
will hear.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.
These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly 
linked with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through 
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.
As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you 
press.
If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor 
highlights the currently selected object.
The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a 
different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice 
quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other 
applications.
It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar 
information.
The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you 
therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond 
the scope of the PC Cursor.
To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing 
the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.
You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move 
to with the PC Cursor.
You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the 
information 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.

[Rick Justice]

Hi Judy,
While in Chrome, press the Jaws key + H for a list of helpful keystrokes.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.


Here are Google Chrome questions I have come up with so far.

1.  When in an address bar, with Internet Explorer, I was able to press F6
to get back into the main page.  How does one do this with Google Chrome?

2.  I also have found that for instance on Amazon, that some checkboxes and
combo boxes don't appear as such, and I cannot makeappropriate choices that
I can see offered in internet explorer.

3.  On Youtube, for instance, I could jump by headings or buttons, as the
need arose, but don't seem to navigate as easily with Google Chrome.

4.  On facebook, for instance, I do not find an events option when I want to
check birthdays or other upcoming events.  I could always see the link for
that on my FB home page with Internet Explorer.

The reason I would like to switch to Chrome is that I find it to work much
faster.  I have Internet Explorer 11, and it seems to get hung up with Jaws
sometimes when trying to open a web site.  I am using Jaws 18, I saw the
same behavior in Jaws 17, and at times I would actually lose Jaws and would
have to reload it.

I'm sure I'll come up with more questions as they arise.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Judy



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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

[Jim Flusche]

Are you running Jaws from the system tray? Pressing Insert+J, will open the 
Jaws page. The reasons I run Jaws from the system tray are, takes the Jaws 
window out of the way when doing a ALT+Tab, also in windows 10, when you press 
windows key+M, you have to press it twice to go to the desktop.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of net bat66
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

with me  and the laptop layout insert jay or capslock j doesn't do anything.
i have to click on the jaws desktop icon  or my shortcut keys control alt j to 
bring up that context menu.

Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Hi Jaws users list, In my continued effort to do my part in helping all the 
users of window eyes learn how to use Jaws 18, please read below.
How to access and use the Jaws help topics system.
Most of this material was taken directly from the Jaws help system of the Jaws
18 version, provided by the VFO group.
I take no credit for this material, I am only using this as a learning tool, to 
teach new Jaws users how to use Jaws.

If you are using Jaws to run from the system tray like I recommend.
Press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options window.
*Tip, if you are not running Jaws from the system tray, press ALT+Tab, 
highlight the Jaws window, press ALT+F, to bring up the same menu.
Press the letter H, opens the help section of the Jaws window.
Down arrow to, Jaws help topics, press Enter.
*Tip, press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options page, press the letter H, followed 
by the letter J, to directly open the Jaws help topics page.
You will hear:
JAWS 18 Help, Contents page, Tree view
Introduction book open, 9 items
This is a simple tree view of Jaws help books.
Press the Right arrow key to open any category, press the left arrow key to 
close any open category.
Press Enter followed by the F6 key, to open that section of the Jaws help 
system.
For example.
After pressing the Insert+J, to open the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter H, to go to the Help section of the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter J, you will be directly taken to, the Jaws help 
topics page.
After you press the down arrow key to, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing the F6 key, you will see the following page in the Jaws help 
HTML system:
*Tip, remember HTML, means that you can press H, for headings, press the Tab 
key to jump by links, press Insert+F7, to display a Jaws links list, and so on.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors, and pressing the F6 key, press
Control+Home, to go to the top of the page, down arrow through the page, 
Control+you
will hear.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.
These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly linked 
with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through options 
in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.
As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you press.
If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor highlights 
the currently selected object.
The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a 
different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice 
quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other 
applications.
It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar 
information.
The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you 
therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond 
the scope of the PC Cursor.
To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing the 
position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.
You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move to 
with the PC Cursor.
You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the 
information currently available on the screen.
To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a touch 
screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.
*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.
To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to 
perform various gestures 

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

[net bat66]

with me  and the laptop layout insert jay or capslock j doesn't do anything.
i have to click on the jaws desktop icon  or my shortcut keys control alt j to 
bring up that context menu.


Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Hi Jaws users list, In my continued effort to do my part in helping all the
users of window eyes learn how to use Jaws 18, please read below.
How to access and use the Jaws help topics system.
Most of this material was taken directly from the Jaws help system of the
Jaws
18 version, provided by the VFO group.
I take no credit for this material, I am only using this as a learning tool,
to teach new Jaws users how to use Jaws.

If you are using Jaws to run from the system tray like I recommend.
Press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options window.
*Tip, if you are not running Jaws from the system tray, press ALT+Tab,
highlight the Jaws window, press ALT+F, to bring up the same menu.
Press the letter H, opens the help section of the Jaws window.
Down arrow to, Jaws help topics, press Enter.
*Tip, press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options page, press the letter H,
followed by the letter J, to directly open the Jaws help topics page.
You will hear:
JAWS 18 Help, Contents page, Tree view
Introduction book open, 9 items
This is a simple tree view of Jaws help books.
Press the Right arrow key to open any category, press the left arrow key to
close any open category.
Press Enter followed by the F6 key, to open that section of the Jaws help
system.
For example.
After pressing the Insert+J, to open the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter H, to go to the Help section of the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter J, you will be directly taken to, the Jaws help
topics page.
After you press the down arrow key to, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing the F6 key, you will see the following page in the Jaws help
HTML system:
*Tip, remember HTML, means that you can press H, for headings, press the Tab
key to jump by links, press Insert+F7, to display a Jaws links list, and so
on.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors, and pressing the F6 key, press
Control+Home, to go to the top of the page, down arrow through the page,
Control+you
will hear.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.
These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly
linked with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.
As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you
press.
If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor
highlights the currently selected object.
The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a
different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice
quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other
applications.
It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar
information.
The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you
therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond
the scope of the PC Cursor.
To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing
the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.
You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move
to with the PC Cursor.
You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the
information currently available on the screen.
To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

The Touch Cursor enables you to navigate the Windows environment using a
touch screen, found on many tablet computers running Windows 8 or later.
*Tip, you do not need to have a touch screen to use the Jaws touch cursor.
To control JAWS from a touch screen, you will use one or more fingers to
perform various gestures directly on the screen, such as tapping, flicking,
and swiping.
When activated from the keyboard, you can use keystrokes to simulate touch
screen gestures to move through the objects in an application to access
information that is not readily accessible using the JAWS or PC Cursor.
The Touch Cursor is always available when navigating using a touch screen.
To activate the Touch Cursor from the keyboard, press SHIFT+NUM PAD PLUS.
Tip, to change from using the touch cursor back to the PC cursor, press the
num pad plus, twice quickly to change back to the regular PC cursor.


The Virtual PC 

Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

[Steve]

Sophos isn't real accessible; you're best bet is to use Windows Defender 
a.k.a. Microsoft Security Essentials in earlier versions of Windows before 
Windows 10.  Then, as a backup, use an off-line scanner to periodically run 
a double-check on your system along with practicing good web habits i.e. 
avoiding peer-to-peer sites, the dark web, and opening unknown email 
attachments or links.


I use the Sophos Virus Removal tool, which is pretty accessible.  You may 
need to use the Jaws Convenient OCR to update the scanning engine if you 
haven't used it in the past month, and you might have to also use that to 
initiate a scan.  But, at least the results are viewable and since it isn't 
always running, you don't need to try to configure it to play nice with 
certain sites or programs.  That's why I prefer Windows Defender.


Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Fairhurst" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question


I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read 
anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is 
a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either 
require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like 
serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little 
better, but it was not perfect.


-Original Message- 
From: Jared Rimer

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

OK,

I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended
to me.  Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws?

On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote:

The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/
I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible.
That's at least 10 years or so ago.
But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven.
But I highly recommend sophos.
https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu
m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos
they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection 
from

them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the
UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for
home, so you should try them.


regards
Thomas N. Chan

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it.  Do
you have a link?

On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote:


Hello,

I am using Panda, the free version of Panda.

In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS
and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use
the tab to go from option to option.

I wish you success.

Aran

-Original Message- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus.  Part of
the page says:

The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to
use the EICAR test file.

The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European
Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and
Computer Antivirus Research Organization.

To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a
blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:"

The URL to the full post is at:


https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki
ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter


for your review.  When i went to send the original message intending to
keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it
worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below.  A bit
concerning.



I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it.

I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it
would pick up the file.   I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my
drives.  I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I
found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file
I had up.  MSE never picked it up.  Now that I'm a Jaws user, what
antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws?

I've got Windows 7, 64 bit.  I don't think MSE is doing the trick
anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got
flagged for review.  It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i
knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is
working and picks them up.





--
Jared Rimer
This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal
coorespondence.  E-mail 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[David Whitehead]

Hello; well, my point was,
If you arrow in the message, and you hear a link;

Example, www.myplace.com
Just use the right arrow key to move inside the link, and then press enter.
I normally go past the www. And to the first letter and press enter.
Are you 100% there's a link within the message?
Maybe there's some kind of graphic within the link.
Where it says, link click here!

       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 10:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hmm!  There is no http address, but the word Verify, and Jaws announces
it as a link.  I didn't think of the links list in that context, but wonder
if it won't throw me back into the info bar again.  Will try it, thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello;
Well, one way to open the link is;
First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the
address, now press enter, The second way is, to use the keystroke, insert+f7
to bring up a list of links.
Hope this helps.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello, Everyone,

 

What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a message,
but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to me at work one
time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by right-clicking.
Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.

 

Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

[Janie Degenshein]

Also I do not have it in the system tray and to get to this I do
insert j and f1
HTH

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 5:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

OK, not used to using Jaws outside of the system tray, thanks for adding 
this tip.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 5:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

if jaws is not in the system tray all you have to do is alt tab to open the 
jaws screen and press f1 to do the same thing.
i can not put jaws in the system tray as a standard user because i can not 
unhide the icons. what i change as a administrator will not apply to the 
standard user account either.


-Original Message-
From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 1:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to access and use the Jaws help topics system

Hi Jaws users list, In my continued effort to do my part in helping all the 
users of window eyes learn how to use Jaws 18, please read below.
How to access and use the Jaws help topics system.
Most of this material was taken directly from the Jaws help system of the 
Jaws
18 version, provided by the VFO group.
I take no credit for this material, I am only using this as a learning tool, 
to teach new Jaws users how to use Jaws.

If you are using Jaws to run from the system tray like I recommend.
Press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options window.
*Tip, if you are not running Jaws from the system tray, press ALT+Tab, 
highlight the Jaws window, press ALT+F, to bring up the same menu.
Press the letter H, opens the help section of the Jaws window.
Down arrow to, Jaws help topics, press Enter.
*Tip, press Insert+J, opens the Jaws options page, press the letter H, 
followed by the letter J, to directly open the Jaws help topics page.
You will hear:
JAWS 18 Help, Contents page, Tree view
Introduction book open, 9 items
This is a simple tree view of Jaws help books.
Press the Right arrow key to open any category, press the left arrow key to 
close any open category.
Press Enter followed by the F6 key, to open that section of the Jaws help 
system.
For example.
After pressing the Insert+J, to open the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter H, to go to the Help section of the Jaws window.
After pressing the letter J, you will be directly taken to, the Jaws help 
topics page.
After you press the down arrow key to, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors.
After pressing the F6 key, you will see the following page in the Jaws help 
HTML system:
*Tip, remember HTML, means that you can press H, for headings, press the Tab 
key to jump by links, press Insert+F7, to display a Jaws links list, and so 
on.
After pressing enter on, About JAWS Cursors, and pressing the F6 key, press
Control+Home, to go to the top of the page, down arrow through the page,
Control+you
will hear.

About JAWS Cursors
Navigating through Windows with JAWS is accomplished with cursors.
These cursors determine the focus of JAWS speech and are often directly 
linked with Windows cursors.

The PC Cursor - Follows Keystrokes

This cursor is linked to the keyboard functions of Windows and applications.
This is the cursor that is used when typing information, moving through 
options in dialog boxes, and selecting options or icons.
As you type information, the PC Cursor follows along with each key you 
press.
If you are making a selection in a menu or dialog box, the PC Cursor 
highlights the currently selected object.
The PC Cursor is activated by default when JAWS starts. If you are using a 
different cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS returns you to the PC Cursor.
*Tip, If you are using the Jaws touch cursor, pressing NUM PAD PLUS twice 
quickly returns you to the PC Cursor.

The JAWS Cursor - Follows Mouse Pointer

The JAWS Cursor is linked to mouse pointer functions in Windows and other 
applications.
It is used to read information the PC Cursor cannot read, such as toolbar 
information.
The mouse follows along with the JAWS Cursor when it is moved, and you 
therefore have access to information in an application window that is beyond 
the scope of the PC Cursor.
To activate the JAWS Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS.

The Invisible Cursor - Explore Without Moving Focus

The Invisible Cursor allows you to move around the screen without changing 
the position of the PC Cursor or mouse pointer.
You can use this cursor to read text and access options that you cannot move 
to with the PC Cursor.
You can also use the Invisible Cursor to provide a quick overview of the 
information currently available on the screen.
To activate the Invisible Cursor, press NUM PAD MINUS twice quickly.

The Touch Cursor - Object Navigation

The Touch 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[Judy Jones]

Hmm!  There is no http address, but the word Verify, and Jaws announces
it as a link.  I didn't think of the links list in that context, but wonder
if it won't throw me back into the info bar again.  Will try it, thanks.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 8:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello;
Well, one way to open the link is;
First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the
address, now press enter, The second way is, to use the keystroke, insert+f7
to bring up a list of links.
Hope this helps.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello, Everyone,

 

What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a message,
but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to me at work one
time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by right-clicking.
Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.

 

Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.

[Judy Jones]

Here are Google Chrome questions I have come up with so far.

1.  When in an address bar, with Internet Explorer, I was able to press F6
to get back into the main page.  How does one do this with Google Chrome?

2.  I also have found that for instance on Amazon, that some checkboxes and
combo boxes don't appear as such, and I cannot makeappropriate choices that
I can see offered in internet explorer.

3.  On Youtube, for instance, I could jump by headings or buttons, as the
need arose, but don't seem to navigate as easily with Google Chrome.

4.  On facebook, for instance, I do not find an events option when I want to
check birthdays or other upcoming events.  I could always see the link for
that on my FB home page with Internet Explorer.

The reason I would like to switch to Chrome is that I find it to work much
faster.  I have Internet Explorer 11, and it seems to get hung up with Jaws
sometimes when trying to open a web site.  I am using Jaws 18, I saw the
same behavior in Jaws 17, and at times I would actually lose Jaws and would
have to reload it.

I'm sure I'll come up with more questions as they arise.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
Well, one way to open the link is;
First navigate to the link, http, now move your right arrow into the
address, now press enter,
The second way is, to use the keystroke, insert+f7 to bring up a list of
links.
Hope this helps.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 9:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

Hello, Everyone,

 

What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a message,
but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to me at work one
time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by right-clicking.
Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.

 

Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.

 

Judy

 

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[JAWS-Users] Junk folder-Jaws-users Group, Might want to check

[Geno Stone]

I keep forgetting to post. I have seen no one mention. So, Might not be a
big issue. Yet, here, 2016 Microsoft Outlook Office Complete and E-mail,
using Jaws 18 latest.
Sometimes David F., Sir, your group mail goes to my Junk folder, sometimes
one or two and sometimes several. So, What I do is use the application key
on each high-lighted e-mail, go down to Junk mail, thinking it is called and
enter, this puts a list up and I go to  not junk. Enter there and it will
give me the Third screen of Jaws user.. This is checked as a safe group to
receive from. I uncheck and then check a couple of times, making sure when
unchecking it twice, it is checked. Then tab once more and again check and
uncheck and check and then Ok and they disappear to the in-box. 
Then Outlook will remember for a while and like after a week of smooth
running, Today two more popped up. So if anyone is not receiving mail from
your group, this might be the issue. Gene/Geno, Portland, ME.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of claudette macon
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] free email clients and jaws

 I'm getting tired of a few things with yahoo mail, and looking for a free
email client. can anyone tell me anything about em client or opera mail used
with jaws 17, and vista? 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk Synthesizer was: Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

I'll forward your message to Access Solutions.  They are now in the process 
of working on the tripletalk usb issue.  They also make the dectalk usb.



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[JAWS-Users] Trouble opening a link in an Outlook message.

[Judy Jones]

Hello, Everyone,

 

What is the work-around when you try to open a link from within a message,
but are thrown into the information area?  This happened to me at work one
time, but I was able to find the option to open the link by right-clicking.
Now, this option does not exist on the home computer I am using.

 

Your collective wisdom is appreciated, thanks.

 

Judy

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Ken Chernack]

Hi
I use the control home technique to get to the top of the email text.
Why?
IMHO, it is not totally in the reader's control to start at the top since
the sender, based on how they end the email, has the control.
If the sender just ends the email at the bottom, I have found that that
position is what I inherit as the reader.
If the sender ends the their email by going back to the top of it before
sending it, then you start at the top.

This logic works most of the time, but since the reader does not control the
sender's client, it turns out to be a crap shoot, thus
The control home behavior is constant and works to get you starting to read
at the top of the email.

My 2 cents.
Ken

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Yes, and that is what I do, smiles.
I just thought there is something that I could do to make it read from the
top.
Patti

Patty,

Using outlook 365 2016 with windows 10 creaters update build 1703 15063 and
jfw 18 latest build can conferm tat this happens though it does not happen
with every message.  I can not tell when it does, but most of the time it
will do it.  I just go to the top of the message with ctrl home and start
reading and all is well other wize.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] free email clients and jaws

[David Whitehead]

Hello;
You may also consider;

Windows live mail, a standalone outlook express,
Thunderbird,
There's 3 possibilities.


       Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] free email clients and jaws

Hi Claudette,

For a very Jaws friendly free email option take a look at:

https://www.gmx.com/

It can be a little tricky to get started if you want a POP3 account, but it 
can be done.  I don't have an IMAP account with GMX, but if I recall there's

no problems with setting this type of an account up.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: claudette macon
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 3:07 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] free email clients and jaws


I'm getting tired of a few things with yahoo mail, and looking for a free 
email client. can anyone tell me anything about em client or opera mail used

with jaws 17, and vista?

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[JAWS-Users] jaws and Google chrome problem

[Dennis Long]

Hi, when on 

m.facebook.com

you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] free email clients and jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi Claudette,

For a very Jaws friendly free email option take a look at:

https://www.gmx.com/

It can be a little tricky to get started if you want a POP3 account, but it 
can be done.  I don't have an IMAP account with GMX, but if I recall there's 
no problems with setting this type of an account up.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: claudette macon
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 3:07 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] free email clients and jaws


I'm getting tired of a few things with yahoo mail, and looking for a free 
email client. can anyone tell me anything about em client or opera mail used 
with jaws 17, and vista?

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[JAWS-Users] free email clients and jaws

[claudette macon]

 I'm getting tired of a few things with yahoo mail, and looking for a free 
email client. can anyone tell me anything about em client or opera mail used 
with jaws 17, and vista? 

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