Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon and accessibility

[Panagiotis Antonopoulos]

Hi Judy/all,
Because I sent something similar to our group, I do not know if your
reference concerned my posting (a male in that case), but I never received a
reply and I have still problems with Amazon, being unable to access my
account from my new Lenovo computer, because they need verification, and the
purported code sent to my email address just never reaches me so that I can
continue. I also wrote to their helpdesk and received no reply so far. So, I
am really puzzled as it only happens with Amazon.
Greetings from Greece,
Takis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

Hi, did the person who had trouble with changing her account on amazon able
to do that? I have3n't heard anything since I sent my reply in and just
wondered. Also, is anyone who uses IE 11 been having more trouble lately
using it with Jaws on websites in general? I have notided this in the last
week or so. Thanks. Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

[Holger Fiallo]

Using IE 11 and jaws 2018. I am having issues with IE. Closing tabs, IE 
freezing and more. Using IE 11, W10 and jaws 2018.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 12:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

Yes ie 11 and jaws is terrible now you can't alt tab away and go back and
use it.

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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

Hi, did the person who had trouble with changing her account on amazon able
to do that? I have3n't heard anything since I sent my reply in and just
wondered. Also, is anyone who uses IE 11 been having more trouble lately
using it with Jaws on websites in general? I have notided this in the last
week or so. Thanks. Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

[Dennis Long]

Yes ie 11 and jaws is terrible now you can't alt tab away and go back and
use it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

Hi, did the person who had trouble with changing her account on amazon able
to do that? I have3n't heard anything since I sent my reply in and just
wondered. Also, is anyone who uses IE 11 been having more trouble lately
using it with Jaws on websites in general? I have notided this in the last
week or so. Thanks. Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility

[Judy]

Hi, did the person who had trouble with changing her account on amazon able
to do that? I have3n't heard anything since I sent my reply in and just
wondered. Also, is anyone who uses IE 11 been having more trouble lately
using it with Jaws on websites in general? I have notided this in the last
week or so. Thanks. Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws

[Dang Manh Cuong]

Hi Mike
Thank you for the grate tips.
Cuong

Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
Tel: +8428 7302-4488
E-mail: vanph...@trungtamsaomai.org; congn...@trungtamsaomai.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws



Hi Cuong,

I don't run Thunderbird, but I saved this note just in case.

From: adam morris
Column presentation
Go to the message list.

go to the very top of it with the home key.

enable touch cursor,

now go left until you hear select columns to display... button.

Press enter. This opens the menu allowing you to check and uncheck 
columns.


If you want to rearrange the columns, go left past that button and you'll
find the header items like subject and the like. Find the one you want to
move,

press the keystroke to lock mouse button, with laptop layout that would be
shift caps lock num row 8. then left or right to the colum you'd like to
place

this before and press the mouse lock toggle again. Note that the columns 
are
read in the same order regardless of their actual position when using 
touch


cursor. You'll have to try to move it, then go back to pc cursor and
navigate the list of messages to see if you did it. If it fails, try
dragging other

columns around the one want to move instead and see if that works. It's a
bit messy but can be done with a little time and a big dose of patients.

Once you have a folder set up, you may want to assign that folder's column
view settings to all folders, this is available in that button that says
choose

which columns to display near the bottom says something like apply to
folder, you can apply it to your entire email account that way if you want
to.

Adam

- Original Message - 
From: Dang Manh Cuong

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws


To all listers
Can we ordering the column in the message list such as makes the read 
status

stand before the corresponding etc using Jaws? I Saw this feature in NVDA,
and like this so much, but don't know how to do in Jaws.
Using windows 10 pro 64 bit, Jaws 18.0, and the latest version of Mozilla
Thunderbird.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

Dang Manh Cuong
The Assistive technology specialist
Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
Tel: +8428 7302-4488
E-mail: vanph...@trungtamsaomai.org; congn...@trungtamsaomai.org
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org 
Mobile

/ Zalo: +84 902-572-300
E-mail: dangmanhcu...@gmail.com; cu...@trungtamsaomai.org
Skype name: dangmanhcuong
facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
Twitter: @ManhCuongTech

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi Matthew,

The desktop command for doing what?

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: matthew dyer
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws


What is the desktop command for doing this please?  Would this be shift 
numpad start or what?  Thanks.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws

Hi Cuong,

I don't run Thunderbird, but I saved this note just in case.

From: adam morris
Column presentation
Go to the message list.

go to the very top of it with the home key.

enable touch cursor,

now go left until you hear select columns to display... button.

Press enter. This opens the menu allowing you to check and uncheck columns.

If you want to rearrange the columns, go left past that button and you'll 
find the header items like subject and the like. Find the one you want to 
move,

press the keystroke to lock mouse button, with laptop layout that would be 
shift caps lock num row 8. then left or right to the colum you'd like to 
place

this before and press the mouse lock toggle again. Note that the columns are 
read in the same order regardless of their actual position when using touch

cursor. You'll have to try to move it, then go back to pc cursor and 
navigate the list of messages to see if you did it. If it fails, try 
dragging other

columns around the one want to move instead and see if that works. It's a 
bit messy but can be done with a little time and a big dose of patients.

Once you have a folder set up, you may want to assign that folder's column 
view settings to all folders, this is available in that button that says 
choose

which columns to display near the bottom says something like apply to 
folder, you can apply it to your entire email account that way if you want 
to.

Adam

- Original Message -
From: Dang Manh Cuong
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws


To all listers
Can we ordering the column in the message list such as makes the read status
stand before the corresponding etc using Jaws? I Saw this feature in NVDA,
and like this so much, but don't know how to do in Jaws.
Using windows 10 pro 64 bit, Jaws 18.0, and the latest version of Mozilla
Thunderbird.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: vanph...@trungtamsaomai.org; congn...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org  Mobile
/ Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcu...@gmail.com; cu...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
 facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech

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[JAWS-Users] little memo for everybody

[David Ferrin]

I just wanted to remind everybody that when contacting the list moderators the 
most efficient manner is to use:

jaws-users-list-ow...@jaws-users.com

The above address will reach all of us where as if you write to me or one of 
the other guys who say for example happens to be on vacation and I know that 
sounds far out there as nobody would want to take a break from their respective 
computers, but let’s just say if it did happen that way. Your request might not 
receive an answer in a timely manner. 

Other than that little glitch things have been running quite smoothly around 
here for an extended period of time. Which goes to the lists’ longevity, 12 and 
a half years already. Now if you have a reason to contact one of us privately 
or don’t mind the possibility of waiting for a reply then go for it. 

OK I have rambled on long enough and remember go Penguins.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws

[matthew dyer]

What is the desktop command for doing this please?  Would this be shift numpad 
start or what?  Thanks.

Matthew



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws

Hi Cuong,

I don't run Thunderbird, but I saved this note just in case.

From: adam morris
Column presentation
Go to the message list.

go to the very top of it with the home key.

enable touch cursor,

now go left until you hear select columns to display... button.

Press enter. This opens the menu allowing you to check and uncheck columns.

If you want to rearrange the columns, go left past that button and you'll find 
the header items like subject and the like. Find the one you want to move,

press the keystroke to lock mouse button, with laptop layout that would be 
shift caps lock num row 8. then left or right to the colum you'd like to place

this before and press the mouse lock toggle again. Note that the columns are 
read in the same order regardless of their actual position when using touch

cursor. You'll have to try to move it, then go back to pc cursor and navigate 
the list of messages to see if you did it. If it fails, try dragging other

columns around the one want to move instead and see if that works. It's a bit 
messy but can be done with a little time and a big dose of patients.

Once you have a folder set up, you may want to assign that folder's column view 
settings to all folders, this is available in that button that says choose

which columns to display near the bottom says something like apply to folder, 
you can apply it to your entire email account that way if you want to.

Adam

- Original Message -
From: Dang Manh Cuong
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws


To all listers
Can we ordering the column in the message list such as makes the read status 
stand before the corresponding etc using Jaws? I Saw this feature in NVDA, 
and like this so much, but don't know how to do in Jaws.
Using windows 10 pro 64 bit, Jaws 18.0, and the latest version of Mozilla 
Thunderbird.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: vanph...@trungtamsaomai.org; congn...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org  Mobile 
/ Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcu...@gmail.com; cu...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
 facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
 Twitter: @ManhCuongTech

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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

[David Moore]

I would use Narrator instead.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: T. Civitello
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

OK! I have the JAWS 16.0.4474   in my download folder. I assume it would not 
be a good idea to have Jaws 18 running when I install 16?  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 
ispresent

Hi!
JAWS 16.4350
Will work, earlier than that, a different driver is used.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 
ispresent

Because of the shared files, I'd be nervous about installing an earlier 
version than the one on your system. Also, FS/VFO made a substantial change 
to JAWS that I believe began with version 17. If I were you, I'd ask VFO 
tech support.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
T. Civitello
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:17 PM
To: Jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is 
present

Are there any problems in installing Jaws version 16 if Jaws 2018 is already 
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[JAWS-Users] Remote JAWS

[wayne smith]

Hello all, I am using JAWS 17 on one of my laptops. Lately it sometimes
opens with the announcement, "Remote Jaws" I close it and it returns to JAWS
for home use. The other day I had a blank screen that said nothing when I
pressed insert-T so I closed it with alt F4 at which point I heard the
announcement, terminating tandem connection. Any idea of what might be going
on?

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting text that Jaws cannot get to

[Cher Bosch]

I think what you are looking for is JAWS key + ALT +W to virtualize the
window. Then you can copy and paste if desired. 

Cher


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Behalf Of Glenn At Home
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 1:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting text that Jaws cannot get to

Hi,
I am using Excel, and usually I press control + F2 twice quickly, and I can
copy the formula that comes up.
Only now I can only read the okay button, like it is in one of those message
boxes that we cannot get to.
If I do an insert + B, it reads the window, I just cannot copy the formula
as I usually do.
What is the command for making a non editable window copyable?
I know there is such a command, for copying messages that we normally cannot
copy.
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[JAWS-Users] Touch screen keyboard with JAWS

[Paul Mugambi]

Hello Listers,
has anyone used the touch screen keyboard?
any lister can share the  experience.
I  would like to know how to go about it!

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[JAWS-Users] Touch Cursor & Windows Settings

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

When navigating Settings using the Touch Cursor in Windows 10 Jaws will 
read, On, Off, or Thumb.  What is the , Thumb, setting used for?  Thanks 
much.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws

[Mike B.]

Hi Cuong,

I don't run Thunderbird, but I saved this note just in case.

From: adam morris
Column presentation
Go to the message list.

go to the very top of it with the home key.

enable touch cursor,

now go left until you hear select columns to display... button.

Press enter. This opens the menu allowing you to check and uncheck columns.

If you want to rearrange the columns, go left past that button and you'll 
find the header items like subject and the like. Find the one you want to 
move,

press the keystroke to lock mouse button, with laptop layout that would be 
shift caps lock num row 8. then left or right to the colum you'd like to 
place

this before and press the mouse lock toggle again. Note that the columns are 
read in the same order regardless of their actual position when using touch

cursor. You'll have to try to move it, then go back to pc cursor and 
navigate the list of messages to see if you did it. If it fails, try 
dragging other

columns around the one want to move instead and see if that works. It's a 
bit messy but can be done with a little time and a big dose of patients.

Once you have a folder set up, you may want to assign that folder's column 
view settings to all folders, this is available in that button that says 
choose

which columns to display near the bottom says something like apply to 
folder, you can apply it to your entire email account that way if you want 
to.

Adam

- Original Message - 
From: Dang Manh Cuong
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws


To all listers
Can we ordering the column in the message list such as makes the read status 
stand before the corresponding etc using Jaws? I Saw this feature in NVDA, 
and like this so much, but don't know how to do in Jaws.
Using windows 10 pro 64 bit, Jaws 18.0, and the latest version of Mozilla 
Thunderbird.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: vanph...@trungtamsaomai.org; congn...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org  Mobile 
/ Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcu...@gmail.com; cu...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
 facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
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[JAWS-Users] Reorder message column in thunderbird using Jaws

[Dang Manh Cuong]

To all listers
Can we ordering the column in the message list such as makes the read status 
stand before the corresponding etc using Jaws? I Saw this feature in NVDA, and 
like this so much, but don't know how to do in Jaws.
Using windows 10 pro 64 bit, Jaws 18.0, and the latest version of Mozilla 
Thunderbird.
Any help would be appreciated.
Cuong

Dang Manh Cuong
 The Assistive technology specialist
 Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
52/22 Huynh Thien Loc St., Hoa Thanh ward, Tan Phu dist., HCM, Vietnam.
 Tel: +8428 7302-4488
 E-mail: vanph...@trungtamsaomai.org; congn...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saomaicenterfortheblind
 Website: http://www.trungtamsaomai.org; http://www.saomaicenter.org  Mobile / 
Zalo: +84 902-572-300
 E-mail: dangmanhcu...@gmail.com; cu...@trungtamsaomai.org
 Skype name: dangmanhcuong
 facebook: http://facebook.com/dangmanhcuong
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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is present

[T. Civitello]

OK! I have the JAWS 16.0.4474   in my download folder. I assume it would not 
be a good idea to have Jaws 18 running when I install 16?  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 
ispresent


Hi!
JAWS 16.4350
Will work, earlier than that, a different driver is used.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 
ispresent


Because of the shared files, I'd be nervous about installing an earlier 
version than the one on your system. Also, FS/VFO made a substantial change 
to JAWS that I believe began with version 17. If I were you, I'd ask VFO 
tech support.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
T. Civitello

Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:17 PM
To: Jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is 
present


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages; correction

[Justin Williams]

The one you posted brings up the list, and allows you to name permanent
place markers.

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages;
correction

I'm really sorry to drag this out, but I just realized I posted the wrong
key combo for a temporary placemarker in a browser: It's control-Windows
key-k.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:49 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Thanks, Justin, but the "find" alternative would be too much of a
distraction. Such tasks need to be as automatic as possible.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

The place mmarkerseems like a good work around, also remembering a key word,
any word in that area, or a short sequence, and using the find feature,
control f, could laos be used.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use
it. Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven
items of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous
versions of JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on
transferring each item to a Word file. This is already a tedious process
that requires concentration. Your idea will help, but it's still an extra
precaution I shouldn't need to take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker
in a browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you
set a new one or close the window. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you
have to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from
a webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left
off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and
spoken to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS
quick settings that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make
these changes when using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my
day switching between versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else
experiencing this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

[Justin Williams]

Agreed, but that's a secondary option, if you've got to do something else.
With place markers, I've noticed that sometimes, they don't hold, though I'd
try the place marker first.  Going to start using them at work more, thanks
for the reminder. 


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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Thanks, Justin, but the "find" alternative would be too much of a
distraction. Such tasks need to be as automatic as possible.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

The place mmarkerseems like a good work around, also remembering a key word,
any word in that area, or a short sequence, and using the find feature,
control f, could laos be used.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use
it. Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven
items of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous
versions of JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on
transferring each item to a Word file. This is already a tedious process
that requires concentration. Your idea will help, but it's still an extra
precaution I shouldn't need to take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker
in a browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you
set a new one or close the window. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you
have to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from
a webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left
off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and
spoken to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS
quick settings that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make
these changes when using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my
day switching between versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else
experiencing this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages; correction

[Adrian Spratt]

I'm really sorry to drag this out, but I just realized I posted the wrong key 
combo for a temporary placemarker in a browser: It's control-Windows key-k.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:49 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' 
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

Thanks, Justin, but the "find" alternative would be too much of a distraction. 
Such tasks need to be as automatic as possible.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

The place mmarkerseems like a good work around, also remembering a key word, 
any word in that area, or a short sequence, and using the find feature, control 
f, could laos be used.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use it. 
Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven items 
of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous versions of 
JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on transferring each item 
to a Word file. This is already a tedious process that requires concentration. 
Your idea will help, but it's still an extra precaution I shouldn't need to 
take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker in a 
browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you set a 
new one or close the window. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you have 
to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from a 
webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and spoken 
to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS quick settings 
that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make these changes when 
using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my day switching between 
versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else experiencing 
this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Justin, but the "find" alternative would be too much of a distraction. 
Such tasks need to be as automatic as possible.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Justin Williams
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

The place mmarkerseems like a good work around, also remembering a key word, 
any word in that area, or a short sequence, and using the find feature, control 
f, could laos be used.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use it. 
Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven items 
of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous versions of 
JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on transferring each item 
to a Word file. This is already a tedious process that requires concentration. 
Your idea will help, but it's still an extra precaution I shouldn't need to 
take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker in a 
browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you set a 
new one or close the window. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you have 
to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from a 
webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and spoken 
to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS quick settings 
that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make these changes when 
using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my day switching between 
versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else experiencing 
this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

[Justin Williams]

The place mmarkerseems like a good work around, also remembering a key word,
any word in that area, or a short sequence, and using the find feature,
control f, could laos be used.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use
it. Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven
items of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous
versions of JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on
transferring each item to a Word file. This is already a tedious process
that requires concentration. Your idea will help, but it's still an extra
precaution I shouldn't need to take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker
in a browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you
set a new one or close the window. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you
have to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from
a webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left
off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and
spoken to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS
quick settings that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make
these changes when using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my
day switching between versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else
experiencing this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

[Adrian Spratt]

Thanks, Patti, you've given me a very constructive workaround, and I'll use it. 
Still, it's an extra step and a distraction. Let's say I'm copying seven items 
of information from different parts of a webpage. With previous versions of 
JAWS, I could rely on focus staying where I'd left it on transferring each item 
to a Word file. This is already a tedious process that requires concentration. 
Your idea will help, but it's still an extra precaution I shouldn't need to 
take based on earlier versions of JAWS. 

Note for anyone following this thread. You can set a temporary placemarker in a 
browser with control-shift-k. As I recall, it is replaced each time you set a 
new one or close the window. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 9:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you have 
to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from a 
webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and spoken 
to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS quick settings 
that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make these changes when 
using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my day switching between 
versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else experiencing 
this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some webpages

[patti]

How about using place markers, so when you go back to that page, all you
have to do is press the letter K.
Patti

I'm referring to the situation where I'm taking information bit by bit from
a webpage. I need to be able to go back to that page and resume where I left
off. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
patti
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 7:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 won't keep focus with IE in some
webpages

 What I do is make sure my curser is in the upper left hand side at the top.
Patti

Hi. We've had an earlier thread on this subject. I've also written and
spoken to VFO about it, but all they told me was to change certain JAWS
quick settings that I want to keep for other purposes. I don't need to make
these changes when using earlier versions of JAWS, which means I spend my
day switching between versions.

I've just written again to VFO tech support. I'd urge anyone else
experiencing this problem to do the same because it's a significant flaw.
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

[David Moore]

Hi!
JAWS 16.4350
Will work, earlier than that, a different driver is used.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 10:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 ispresent

Because of the shared files, I'd be nervous about installing an earlier version 
than the one on your system. Also, FS/VFO made a substantial change to JAWS 
that I believe began with version 17. If I were you, I'd ask VFO tech support. 

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Civitello
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:17 PM
To: Jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing Jaws version 16 when version 2018 is present

Are there any problems in installing Jaws version 16 if Jaws 2018 is already 
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