Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell notebook

[gary-melconian]

Yes I know that .also look at the hp envy and spectur line up for those are 
reasonably priced ones with good performance.i have a few aroudn the house.  
Also have a MSI gaming laptop but that one will be around or more then the 
thinkpad.  

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Of Valiant8086
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell 
notebook

Hi.


They're kind of expensive though, but I just got a Lenovo Think Pad t480s. It's 
been pretty painless so far. My only complaint is that 14 inch computers are a 
little too big for me, I prefer 13 o3 11 or something like that, so I don't 
need to move my hands as far to hit the delete key and the like. And the palm 
rest on this thing digs into my wrists. But, it's a good performer, seems very 
sturdy and although I did have to make some modifications, one of which 
required the sharp keys utility, I got the keyboard to be everything I need.


The speakers are lousy with the enhancements turned off, which is needed as 
with the enhancements on it pops and clicks like all the other computers do 
with enhancements on that I know anything about.


Battery life is pretty good, under very light load it'll get around 16 hours, 
if you're not using it I think it'll get more than 20 hours. If you're doing 
something a little arduous the life can drop quite a bit, 5 hours while 
coppying 60 gb across my network for instance.


But, this is a pretty involved computer purchase, I customized it on Lenovo's 
website and ordered it directly. There are parts of the Lenovo website that are 
pretty hard to use.


That said, you can get some of these on Amazon. I'm kind of thinking I would 
recommend a think pad, now that I know what I do about the customizability of 
the keyboard function keys and how to change them into function keys and the 
like. You can change the function buttons to be function buttons by default, 
without the fn key, and you can  swap ctrl and FN to get control to be on the 
bottom left like other windows computers do, without needing the bios, although 
you can do it in the bios too.


Lenovo Flex 4 seems like a nice system. I've seen a couple of them. May want to 
avoid Lenovo Yoga 920, Yoga 720, they scrapped the context menu applications 
key for some strange reason.


Dell xps13 2 in 1, or dell xps13 not 2 in 1 (9370) are both very nice systems 
if you're going for dell, although they have the dell wave max audio joy.



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
"We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 5/16/2018 7:17 PM, John R. Vaughn wrote:
> List, have a Toshiba 5500 series laptop moving toward end of its life.
>
> Anyone purchased a current Toshiba or Dell laptop that works well with 
> Jaws and is not a touch screen computer?
>
> How about any other newer purchased laptops?
>
> Thank you for any thoughts.
>
> John
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry

[Mike B.]

Howdy Jerry,

Do you have Fast Start enabled?  If this is enabled then when you shut your 
computer down it doesn't really shut down, but it goes into a hibernated 
state that allows the computer to wake-up & install updates, run security 
scans, & whatever the Widows 10 system is supposed to do in this state. 
These tasks are all scheduled and designed to do their thing when your 
computer is not being used.  But, if Fast Start is disabled it can't do 
these scheduled tasks.  So, in your case if Fast Start is not turned on in 
can't wake-up to install the updates and you would have to do them manually. 
If you have Fast Start enabled and the updates aren't being installed there 
might be an error code message somewhere which explains why. if you do a 
search using the error code number as your search criteria.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 5:48 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry


Evening all.

Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I have a confusing problem.

When I go to shut down my laptop, I close all open programs with the 
exception of JAWS. After returning to the desktop, I use the ALT F4 command, 
and I get an option for updating and shutting down. But after pressing this 
option, my laptop goes ahead and shuts down. So, the next time I start my 
device, and shut it down for the day, I still get this option. I go into the 
Windows notifications, and it states there is an update that was not able to 
be completed. Any suggestions/advice on this problem? Thanks in advance for 
any help.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell notebook

[Valiant8086]

Hi.

The keyboard is reasonably sturdy on the xps13 9370. It lacks a context 
key like most dell computers, but fortunately, fn+right alt or perhaps 
fn+right control work to do that. The downer is the xps13 9370 doesn't 
have any type A USB ports. It comes with one adapter to use in your type 
C USB port to be able to connect type A devices but, that's the main 
thing that kept me away aside from the wave max audio terrors I've 
already been fighting with on other dell systems. And I checked it on 
the xps13 in the store by the way, it still uses too much processor even 
on that bad ass computer.



The xps13 2 in 1 is a fanless laptop using the core i7 7y77 or 74 can't 
remember which processor, super duper low voltage, 8 wats I believe. 
It's fanless, and the screen folds all the way back, just like Lenovo's 
yoga's and dell's inspiron 13 2 in 1's do. It also has a nice rubbery 
texture on the top that would make it extra nice to use, but it's 
slippery aluminum on the underneith just like mac books, that's a 
negative. The performance on that system is decent. I played with it 
enough to gather than it would run reasonably well for things I would do 
with a computer. I read on notebookcheck though that it does get hot all 
over, being fanless as it is.



I believe you can't really buy Toshiba computers in store anymore, 
mostly just online.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 5/16/2018 8:05 PM, Greg Washington wrote:

How is the keyboard?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Sadam Ahmed
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 6:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell
notebook

The Dell XPS 13 is a great laptop.



On 17/05/2018 9:17 AM, John R. Vaughn wrote:

List, have a Toshiba 5500 series laptop moving toward end of its life.

Anyone purchased a current Toshiba or Dell laptop that works well with

Jaws

and is not a touch screen computer?

How about any other newer purchased laptops?

Thank you for any thoughts.

John

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Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell notebook

[Valiant8086]

Hi.


They're kind of expensive though, but I just got a Lenovo Think Pad 
t480s. It's been pretty painless so far. My only complaint is that 14 
inch computers are a little too big for me, I prefer 13 o3 11 or 
something like that, so I don't need to move my hands as far to hit the 
delete key and the like. And the palm rest on this thing digs into my 
wrists. But, it's a good performer, seems very sturdy and although I did 
have to make some modifications, one of which required the sharp keys 
utility, I got the keyboard to be everything I need.



The speakers are lousy with the enhancements turned off, which is needed 
as with the enhancements on it pops and clicks like all the other 
computers do with enhancements on that I know anything about.



Battery life is pretty good, under very light load it'll get around 16 
hours, if you're not using it I think it'll get more than 20 hours. If 
you're doing something a little arduous the life can drop quite a bit, 5 
hours while coppying 60 gb across my network for instance.



But, this is a pretty involved computer purchase, I customized it on 
Lenovo's website and ordered it directly. There are parts of the Lenovo 
website that are pretty hard to use.



That said, you can get some of these on Amazon. I'm kind of thinking I 
would recommend a think pad, now that I know what I do about the 
customizability of the keyboard function keys and how to change them 
into function keys and the like. You can change the function buttons to 
be function buttons by default, without the fn key, and you can  swap 
ctrl and FN to get control to be on the bottom left like other windows 
computers do, without needing the bios, although you can do it in the 
bios too.



Lenovo Flex 4 seems like a nice system. I've seen a couple of them. May 
want to avoid Lenovo Yoga 920, Yoga 720, they scrapped the context menu 
applications key for some strange reason.



Dell xps13 2 in 1, or dell xps13 not 2 in 1 (9370) are both very nice 
systems if you're going for dell, although they have the dell wave max 
audio joy.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We 
make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com;



On 5/16/2018 7:17 PM, John R. Vaughn wrote:

List, have a Toshiba 5500 series laptop moving toward end of its life.

Anyone purchased a current Toshiba or Dell laptop that works well with Jaws
and is not a touch screen computer?

How about any other newer purchased laptops?

Thank you for any thoughts.

John

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry

[amcarr1]

See if you get a different result by doing:

Control+Alt+Delete
Use up or down arrow to navigate to Power and press enter.
Down arrow to update and shutdown.

If all else fails, call Microsoft disability support.

HTH,
Annette


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Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 8:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry

Evening all.

Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I have a confusing problem.

When I go to shut down my laptop, I close all open programs with the
exception of JAWS. After returning to the desktop, I use the ALT F4 command,
and I get an option for updating and shutting down. But after pressing this
option, my laptop goes ahead and shuts down. So, the next time I start my
device, and shut it down for the day, I still get this option. I go into the
Windows notifications, and it states there is an update that was not able to
be completed. Any suggestions/advice on this problem? Thanks in advance for
any help.

Jerry
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[JAWS-Users] Windows Updates Inquiry

[jyandt.martin]

Evening all.

Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I have a confusing problem.

When I go to shut down my laptop, I close all open programs with the exception 
of JAWS. After returning to the desktop, I use the ALT F4 command, and I get an 
option for updating and shutting down. But after pressing this option, my 
laptop goes ahead and shuts down. So, the next time I start my device, and shut 
it down for the day, I still get this option. I go into the Windows 
notifications, and it states there is an update that was not able to be 
completed. Any suggestions/advice on this problem? Thanks in advance for any 
help.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

[Dennis Long]

Is zoom accessible?

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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 2:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Thanks

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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

You can do this with zoom. The only issue I really have is that the chat box
won't automatically speak text input by the other person. But you can also
chat via audio. There are keyboard commands for everything. Go to
http://www.zoom.us and download the client.



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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: May 24, 2018 9:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Hello all- I need to have a  business call and the other party wants to see
what is on my screen. She is asking me to set up a video chat.  I have never
attempted this before so can somebody tell me if it is possible? I am using
Windows 7 64bit and JAWS 15. I have JAWS 17 on another machine if that would
make a difference.

 

Thanks,

 

Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] downloading kindle books to the pc library through kindle pc and jaws

[KellyFord]

Are you using the Sync button from the library, that is the full
listofKindle books,not within any one book?

Kelly



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Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 1:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] downloading kindle books to the pc library through
kindle pc and jaws

Hi Kelly/all,
It simply says "syncing" for just a few seconds, but it seems only to work
towards getting the last page read on a book. It does not download the new
content for some reason.
Take care,
Takis

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] downloading kindle books to the pc library through
kindle pc and jaws

Hi,

What happens if you use the Sync option in the Kindle software?  That is how
I get new content to my computer.

Kelly

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Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] downloading kindle books to the pc library through
kindle pc and jaws

Hi all,

As I am trying to explore kindle a bit further, using kindle for pc as
opposed to other forms, I find it impossible to get a fresh purchase, which
appears on my kindle library, be delivered to the pc itself. If I go to
"your kindle content" or "manage content and devices", I can trace the
purchased title, but buttons such as deliver, delete etc, as well as select,
seem entirely inactive when using jaws and they seem checked to the effect
they are not available, while the select does not even appear as a button.
Only if I press "select all" these buttons except for the individual select,
become usable, however the only choice is "deliver all", which again, when
pressed does not appear to do the job. Jaws simply says "deliver all link
button". My computer tech in Athens, who saw kindle through team viewer,
believes there is a problem of accessibility, but before accepting this, I
thought of asking if anyone among our group knows something more, has found
a solution, or can simply inform me definitively that I am trying to do
something which has an accessibility issue.

Kindest regards
and thanks,

Takis

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Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and outlook 2016

[Miriam Vieni]

I'm having the same problem, reading messages formatted as tables. If I
start at the top and press the jaws key and numpad 2, usually Jaws will read
everything, but not always. And periodically, various messages cause Outlook
to close. Also Jaws regularly does a disappearing act, something I can't
predict. It just makes using the computer very tedious.

Miriam 

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Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 10:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and
outlook 2016

I also have Outlook 2016 and just installed the latest release of JAWS 18,
and I don't have this problem. Until you find a fix, an alternative is JAWS
key+tab. 

For the record, I continue to have problems reading any messages formatted
as tables.

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Gary Lee
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] lost reading of status line with jaws 2018 and outlook
2016

just upgraded to latest jaws 2018.

now insert-pgdn which used to read status line at bottom of inbox screen now
reads the "search inbox" line at the top of the screen.
Like it is in another window, and can't be moved.
tried unrestricting the jaws cursor, then doing a jaws to pc, no joy.

any ideas would be helpful.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

[wayne smith]

Thanks

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 12:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

You can do this with zoom. The only issue I really have is that the chat box
won't automatically speak text input by the other person. But you can also
chat via audio. There are keyboard commands for everything. Go to
http://www.zoom.us and download the client.



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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: May 24, 2018 9:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Video Chat?

Hello all- I need to have a  business call and the other party wants to see
what is on my screen. She is asking me to set up a video chat.  I have never
attempted this before so can somebody tell me if it is possible? I am using
Windows 7 64bit and JAWS 15. I have JAWS 17 on another machine if that would
make a difference.

 

Thanks,

 

Wayne

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[JAWS-Users] Another Excel 13 Inquiry

[jyandt.martin]

Afternoon all.

Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop, I was wanting to know 
something regarding Excel 13.

I know that, when in Excel 13, if you place your cursor in a cell directly 
below a series of cells with numeric data, you can press the ALT and Equals 
keys to get the sum of those cells; after confirming the cell information. Now, 
here is the question. Can anyone tell me of a similar operation/keyboard 
commands for performing multiplication, division and subtraction? I am looking 
for a shorter way to perform these operations than the ones utilizing the 
slash, asterisk and dash symbols. Thanks in advance.

Jerry

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Maxamizing in IE no longer crashing (was) RE: Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Hi Cher,

Thanks for the update.  Are you using JAWS 18 or 2018?  I was still seeing this 
behavior as late as last week, but I have been switching between 18 and 2018 
and now can't remember which one I was in when it crashed.

Thanks again.

Pam

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Cher Bosch [oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 3:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Maxamizing in IE no longer crashing (was) RE: Internet 
Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Follow-up for Pam-

With the latest IE11 and the May update for JFW, I can now maximize the
window without IE crashing. When we had this conversation a few months ago,
IE was crashing when I tried to maximize at least frequently, and possibly
always.

Cher



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Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Cher,

Are you running ZoomText by any chance?

I have narrowed this down to appearing to be a ZoomText issue.  If I close
ZoomText, I can maximize or minimize windows in IE 11 without any issues.

Pam



From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi Cher,

I have noticed issues with maximizing the window if I am in IE 11 also.  For
me, it takes me to my default home page for IE 11.  Is that what happens to
you when you maximize?

I am running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 on Windows 7.

Pam



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Cher Bosch [oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
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> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
>
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[JAWS-Users] Maxamizing in IE no longer crashing (was) RE: Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Cher Bosch]

Follow-up for Pam-

With the latest IE11 and the May update for JFW, I can now maximize the
window without IE crashing. When we had this conversation a few months ago,
IE was crashing when I tried to maximize at least frequently, and possibly
always.

Cher



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Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2018 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Cher,

Are you running ZoomText by any chance?

I have narrowed this down to appearing to be a ZoomText issue.  If I close
ZoomText, I can maximize or minimize windows in IE 11 without any issues.

Pam



From: Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi Cher,

I have noticed issues with maximizing the window if I am in IE 11 also.  For
me, it takes me to my default home page for IE 11.  Is that what happens to
you when you maximize?

I am running JAWS 18 and ZoomText 11 on Windows 7.

Pam



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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

I can download with IE without the problems you mentioned, but if I maximize
the page it closes the program every time!

Cher



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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 4:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE
support.

Andy

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From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


>I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't
>associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem
>was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.
>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through
> saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left
> off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back
> on to the web page, has anyone come across this before?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I copied the quote from a Microsoft page that had nothing to do with JAWS.
The sighted person said the text message did not appear at all.--" There is
just a quick blink on the Taskbar".  Presumably if the text is not there,
JAWS can not read it.  Smile.   The person answering had no suggestions for
correcting this in Windows 10 home edition, , nor any idea as to what had
changed.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 12:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

Hi,
There is an active discussion on Win10 (groups.io) forum where people wrote
about various avenues it may occur. So far, the top two possibilities are
either:
1. Notification announcement is turned off in JAWS.
2. A specific Win32 host process isn't running.

As a follow-up, someone posted instructions on restoring help balloons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 6:10 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

I Googled the problem.  There were solutions posted for Windows 10 Pro but
not for the Home version.  But I found this interesting.  It's not JAWS
fault, since it seems there is no message displayed.

Someone wrote:

I'm glad I found this thread... I am having a similar issue...

 

When "Safely Removing" using the Icon on the lower right of the Taskbar, the
Safe Removal confirmation message no longer appears...

 

There is just a quick blink on the Taskbar... Checking ThisPC afterwards
shows the drive in question has been removed...

Maybe Microsoft will fix this in a later update.

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

[JM Casey]

Whoa, Fernando, this is great. Cheers and thanks for posting this. Thankfully I 
have Group Policy Editor on my machine and have used it to make some good 
tweaks before. Think I'll give this a go since I don't really like the "toast" 
notifications either. Who comes up with these silly names, anyway? Lol


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: May 26, 2018 9:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi Mike and all,

If the confirmation message appears on the screen but JAWS is not saying it, 
perhaps it's helpful to know that in Windows 10 balloons was replaced with 
toasts, which like notifications in the Action Center are handled by the 
ShellExperienceHost process, too unstable like most UWP apps and areas, 
unfortunately increasing.
JAWS 17 and newer have a verbosity setting concerning Windows 10 notifications, 
but it is not as accurate as balloon reading, which was being developed since 
Windows XP.
If you have Windows 10 Pro, there's a group policy which allow to use balloons 
instead of new toast notifications.
Press WINDOWS+R, type the following and then press ENTER:
gpedit.msc
In the three view go to User Configuration, Administrative Templates, Start 
Menu and Taskbar.
When you reach Start Menu and Taskbar, tab to the list view.
In the list view, find the following policy:
Disable showing balloon notifications as toasts

Press ENTER to open properties of this policy, tab to the group of radio 
buttons and change from Not Configured to Enabled, and press OK or ENTER.
When finished, restart the computer for this change to take effect.

By the way, File Explorer and other system and third-party apps which 
previously shown balloons will do that exactly as in prior Windows versions, 
including JAWS ability to simulate a left mouse click.

Hope it helps!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:49 PM
To: Jaws-Users List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe To Remove Hardware Message

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Pro Version 1803 (OS Build 17134.81) with Jaws 16 thru
J2018 latest.  Whenever I want to eject / remove an external harddrive I click 
on the system tray icon, choose the device, and press enter on it, but Jaws 
doesn't report the following:


Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be safely 
removed from the computer.

Can anyone tell me how to get Jaws to report the message above?  Or, what 
setting is supposed to be activated to report the message above?  All help will 
be greatly appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

[joseph.lee22590]

Hi,
There is an active discussion on Win10 (groups.io) forum where people wrote
about various avenues it may occur. So far, the top two possibilities are
either:
1. Notification announcement is turned off in JAWS.
2. A specific Win32 host process isn't running.

As a follow-up, someone posted instructions on restoring help balloons.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Rebecca Lineberger
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 6:10 AM
To: jaws user's list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

I Googled the problem.  There were solutions posted for Windows 10 Pro but
not for the Home version.  But I found this interesting.  It's not JAWS
fault, since it seems there is no message displayed.

Someone wrote:

I'm glad I found this thread... I am having a similar issue...

 

When "Safely Removing" using the Icon on the lower right of the Taskbar, the
Safe Removal confirmation message no longer appears...

 

There is just a quick blink on the Taskbar... Checking ThisPC afterwards
shows the drive in question has been removed...

Maybe Microsoft will fix this in a later update.

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

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[JAWS-Users] correction-RE: How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my list

[John R Vaughn]

List, one correction.  When you shift tab to the list of mail folders with
the shift tab, what is reported is the number of unread messages.  All other
info below is as reported.John

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in
my list

All,
I am running latest jaws, windows 10 and outlook 2010.

While in the messages list of my "in box", if I do a "shift tab" which takes
you to the list of your various mailboxes and then quickly tab back to the
message list, jaws will report the number of the message you are on and the
total number of messages. But this is not spoken until the entire displayed
headers are read.
Also, when you do the shift tab to the navigation list, jaws will report the
number of messages in the folder.
John



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 9:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in
my list

In older versions of Jaws and e-mail clients,
a simple say line command would get that info.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in 
my list


Al, I'm confident there isn't such a keystroke, which would be very useful. 
With Outlook, including 2010, you're not even told what number email you're 
at as you go down the list, a feature Outlook Express had, or has. That's my

only regret about giving up OE.

However, your mention of a word search makes me wonder which type of search 
you're doing. If you just type a word into the initial search field, you're 
searching only subject lines. The way I search for all words, whether in the

subject line or the message field, is the following:

Control-shift-f to commence the search.
Tab once
Down arrow once
Shift-tab once.
Now type your search term, then press enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Al Sorrentino
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my 
list

Hi everyone,



I am using Outlook 2010

Windows 7 and JAWS 13



In my Outlook inbox I have about 650 e-mails that have already been read.
Sometimes I need to go back to a certain e-mail for references and it takes 
too long to find it in my list.  Is there a certain keystroke that I can use

to find out what number that e-mail is in my list?  The reason why I am 
asking is because sometimes I would like to go to that particular e-mail and

I do not want to go down that entire list to find out the one that I am 
looking for.  Sometimes when I do a search for a particular word in the 
e-mail that I am looking for, it does not appear, but I do know that it is 
on my list.



Any help will be greatly appreciated.



Al Sorrentino



alsorrent...@verizon.net





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Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my list

[John R Vaughn]

All,
I am running latest jaws, windows 10 and outlook 2010.

While in the messages list of my "in box", if I do a "shift tab" which takes
you to the list of your various mailboxes and then quickly tab back to the
message list, jaws will report the number of the message you are on and the
total number of messages. But this is not spoken until the entire displayed
headers are read.
Also, when you do the shift tab to the navigation list, jaws will report the
number of messages in the folder.
John



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 9:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in
my list

In older versions of Jaws and e-mail clients,
a simple say line command would get that info.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in 
my list


Al, I'm confident there isn't such a keystroke, which would be very useful. 
With Outlook, including 2010, you're not even told what number email you're 
at as you go down the list, a feature Outlook Express had, or has. That's my

only regret about giving up OE.

However, your mention of a word search makes me wonder which type of search 
you're doing. If you just type a word into the initial search field, you're 
searching only subject lines. The way I search for all words, whether in the

subject line or the message field, is the following:

Control-shift-f to commence the search.
Tab once
Down arrow once
Shift-tab once.
Now type your search term, then press enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Al Sorrentino
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How can I find out what # a certain e-mail is in my 
list

Hi everyone,



I am using Outlook 2010

Windows 7 and JAWS 13



In my Outlook inbox I have about 650 e-mails that have already been read.
Sometimes I need to go back to a certain e-mail for references and it takes 
too long to find it in my list.  Is there a certain keystroke that I can use

to find out what number that e-mail is in my list?  The reason why I am 
asking is because sometimes I would like to go to that particular e-mail and

I do not want to go down that entire list to find out the one that I am 
looking for.  Sometimes when I do a search for a particular word in the 
e-mail that I am looking for, it does not appear, but I do know that it is 
on my list.



Any help will be greatly appreciated.



Al Sorrentino



alsorrent...@verizon.net





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[JAWS-Users] Safely Remove Hardware, Followup

[Rebecca Lineberger]

I Googled the problem.  There were solutions posted for Windows 10 Pro but
not for the Home version.  But I found this interesting.  It's not JAWS
fault, since it seems there is no message displayed.

Someone wrote:

I'm glad I found this thread... I am having a similar issue...

 

When "Safely Removing" using the Icon on the lower right of the Taskbar, the
Safe Removal confirmation message no longer appears...

 

There is just a quick blink on the Taskbar... Checking ThisPC afterwards
shows the drive in question has been removed...

Maybe Microsoft will fix this in a later update.

Rebecca

 

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] downloading kindle books to the pc library through kindle pc and jaws

[Panagiotis Antonopoulos]

Hi Kelly/all,
It simply says "syncing" for just a few seconds, but it seems only to work
towards getting the last page read on a book. It does not download the new
content for some reason.
Take care,
Takis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of KellyFord
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2018 3:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] downloading kindle books to the pc library through
kindle pc and jaws

Hi,

What happens if you use the Sync option in the Kindle software?  That is how
I get new content to my computer.

Kelly

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Panagiotis Antonopoulos
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2018 8:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] downloading kindle books to the pc library through
kindle pc and jaws

Hi all,

As I am trying to explore kindle a bit further, using kindle for pc as
opposed to other forms, I find it impossible to get a fresh purchase, which
appears on my kindle library, be delivered to the pc itself. If I go to
"your kindle content" or "manage content and devices", I can trace the
purchased title, but buttons such as deliver, delete etc, as well as select,
seem entirely inactive when using jaws and they seem checked to the effect
they are not available, while the select does not even appear as a button.
Only if I press "select all" these buttons except for the individual select,
become usable, however the only choice is "deliver all", which again, when
pressed does not appear to do the job. Jaws simply says "deliver all link
button". My computer tech in Athens, who saw kindle through team viewer,
believes there is a problem of accessibility, but before accepting this, I
thought of asking if anyone among our group knows something more, has found
a solution, or can simply inform me definitively that I am trying to do
something which has an accessibility issue.

Kindest regards
and thanks,

Takis

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