Re: [JAWS-Users] no jaws key problem solved

[Robin]

Rick I got the problem fixed.
I deleted the C:\Users\Robin\AppData\Roaming\freedom 
scientific\jaws\2018\Settings\enu\internet explorer.JCF
so everything is back to normal, jaws has created a new internet explorer.JCF
cheers robin.
Hi Robin,
Have you tried unloading and then re-loading Jaws?
or rebooting the computer?

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"


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From: "Robin" <bob@ntlworld.com>
To: "jaws list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] no jaws key


it's strange in the latest update when i use internet explorer there is
nojaws curser key, and other jaws commands,   for some reason like
before.
any ideas 
many thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] no jaws key

[Robin]

Rick I have tried everythingeven rolling back my
computer.
it works ok in google crome.
it's just in internet explorer no sound feed back.
maybe it's something i have done.
i notice  they have interduced  a windoweyes feature into jaws!, insert
escape.
cheers robin.
Hi Robin,
Have you tried unloading and then re-loading Jaws?
or rebooting the computer?

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"


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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 6:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] no jaws key


it's strange in the latest update when i use internet explorer there is
nojaws curser key, and other jaws commands,   for some reason like
before.
any ideas 
many thanks.
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[JAWS-Users] no jaws key

[Robin]

it's strange in the latest update when i use internet explorer there is
nojaws curser key, and other jaws commands,   for some reason like
before.
any ideas 
many thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say something else

[Robin]

mike thanks for that, the  space after the star in the application dictionary,
done the trick.
the home budget program i have is an old version which work very well. 
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Hi Robin,

I have been experimenting with the, *, dictionary tweak, & Jaws only 
reported UnReconciled when typing a password if I tweaked the Default JDF 
dictionary manager, but not when I tweaked the Word JDF dictionary manager. 
The Word JDF dictionary manager was my experimental application.

But, if I changed the tweak to,* , a star then a space, in the default JDF 
dictionary manager, then used a space after the star in the Word application 
JDF dictionary then everything worked as it should all the way around.

What I'm trying to say is if you want the,*, to say, UnReconciled in a home 
budgit, then add a space after the star in the application dictionary, but 
then you'll also have to put a star then a space in front of any entry in 
the application as well.

If I've totally confused you by now, just let the list know what application 
you want to use, & I'll type up a set of steps that'll get it done for you.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: David Ferrin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 12:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say 
something else


The reason for that is the system substitutes your password for a series of
stars.

It should be a small price in the long run.

-Original Message- 
From: Robin
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 10:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say
something else

Mike that works which I want, the only thing is when I open the program,
when i am typing in the password it is saying UnReconciled.
I am sure there is a way of fixing that!
Cheers Robin.
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Hi Robin,

To edit the dictionary you're wanting, try the following:
1. Open the application you want to work with, & press, Insert / Jaws key +
D, to open that application's dictionary manager.
2. You should be on the, Add... button, so press the spacebar to open.
Press your backspace key a couple of times to make sure any text that might
be here is deleted.
3. Type the, * , star symbol.  Now I'm assuming you're meaning the star
symbol you get by typing, Shift + 8, on the number row above the main
keyboard.
4. Tab to, Replacement Word, press the spacebar to open, enter the
replacement text, UnReconciled in a home budgit.
5. Tab to, Okay, press enter, press, Control + S, to save, & Alt +F4, to
close.
If this doesn't work let us know what happened.  Using the above steps it
worked on my Windows 7 Pro computer.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

----- Original Message - 
From: Robin
To: jaws list
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say
something else


I just want the star simble to say UnReconciled in a home budgit which I
use.
Many thanks robin.
Can anyone help.
When I Choose Customize Punctuation it says
This setting is only available in the Default/All Applications
Is there anyway you can do  it just for one program.
I just want to change one individual punctuation  to say something in one
application not every program.
Many thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say something else

[Robin]

Mike that works which I want, the only thing is when I open the program,
when i am typing in the password it is saying UnReconciled.
I am sure there is a way of fixing that!
Cheers Robin.
-   --
Hi Robin,

To edit the dictionary you're wanting, try the following:
1. Open the application you want to work with, & press, Insert / Jaws key + 
D, to open that application's dictionary manager.
2. You should be on the, Add... button, so press the spacebar to open. 
Press your backspace key a couple of times to make sure any text that might 
be here is deleted.
3. Type the, * , star symbol.  Now I'm assuming you're meaning the star 
symbol you get by typing, Shift + 8, on the number row above the main 
keyboard.
4. Tab to, Replacement Word, press the spacebar to open, enter the 
replacement text, UnReconciled in a home budgit.
5. Tab to, Okay, press enter, press, Control + S, to save, & Alt +F4, to 
close.
If this doesn't work let us know what happened.  Using the above steps it 
worked on my Windows 7 Pro computer.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.

- Original Message - 
From: Robin
To: jaws list
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2018 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say 
something else


I just want the star simble to say UnReconciled in a home budgit which I
use.
Many thanks robin.
Can anyone help.
When I Choose Customize Punctuation it says
This setting is only available in the Default/All Applications
Is there anyway you can do  it just for one program.
I just want to change one individual punctuation  to say something in one 
application not every program.
Many thanks.
Cheers Robin.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say something else

[Robin]

I just want the star simble to say UnReconciled in a home budgit which I
use.
Many thanks robin.
Can anyone help.
When I Choose Customize Punctuation it says  
This setting is only available in the Default/All Applications 
Is there anyway you can do  it just for one program.
I just want to change one individual punctuation  to say something in one 
application not every program.
Many thanks.
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[JAWS-Users] I wont to chane the star Punctuation to say something else

[Robin]

Can anyone help.
When I Choose Customize Punctuation it says  
This setting is only available in the Default/All Applications 
Is there anyway you can do  it just for one program.
I just want to change one individual punctuation  to say something in one 
application not every program.
Many thanks.
Cheers Robin.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] frames andspelling

[Robin]

Many thanks brian and others.
I was a long time windoweyes user , and find jaws much harder to
setup with that you could have made it spell the window.
I havn't tried the script writing in jaws yet.
many thanks.
Cheers Robin.
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For a JAWS frame I think the only way would be to write a script and use the
Run Script or Run ScriptEvent option.  If you go into the frame options in
the frame manager and go where you can add actions to your frame there is no
built-in script for spelling the contents of the frame, at least not that I
can tell.  However, there is an option to run an associated script.

Take care.  

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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Behalf Of Robin
Sent: February 26, 2018 1:27 AM
To: jaws list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] frames andspelling

is there any way of making a frame spell the contence.
many thankks.
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[JAWS-Users] frames andspelling

[Robin]

is there any way of making a frame spell the contence.
many thankks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] new to jaws

[Robin]

Mike many thanks for that got things sortedd.   
it will save me from going mad!!
I find jaws very bloted after window-eyes.
Cheers Robin..
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Hi Robin,

Read through the steps below first before doing anything to give you an idea 
of what you're going to be doing.

Note: The apostrophy  & dollar sign are only examples.

You can change how Jaws speaks the apostrophy in the Settings Centter
default all applications by doing the following.  If you only want to change
the punctuation settings in a particular application just open the Settings
Center while in the particular application by pressing Insert + 6, on the
number row above the main keyboard to open the Settings Center for that 
particular application:

1. Press Insert + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard to open the 
Settings Center, & press, Control, shift, + D, to open default all
applications.
2. Arrow down to, Punctuation closed & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to customize punctuation & press the spacebar to open.  Don't
press enter here, if you press enter instad of the spacebar, the Settings
Center will close.
4.A. When making changes in the customize punctuation list, if you do not 
want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

4.B. After you pressed the spacebar on customize punctuation, you are now in 
a list of punctuation marks.  Arrow down the list and when
you have the punctuation mark you want to change highlighted, tab 1 time to
the radio buttons that I mentioned earlier.
5. Keeping in mind what I mentioned earlier about these choices working
backwards, select the box in this list, in your case not wanting any
apostrophy's spoken, choose the all button.
6. Now, if you want to make a change to another punctuation mark, shift tab
back to the list and highlight a different punctuation mark, tab back to the
radio buttons and select the box you prefer.
7. After you are done making your changes tab to okay and press the
spacebar.
8. Tab to apply, press the spacebar, tab to okay, press the spacebar to save
your changes & close the Settings Center.

Now, I hope that you are not as confused as I am after typing all of this.
LOL  Hope this has helped.


- Original Message - 
From: Robin
To: jaws list
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] new to jaws


how do i silence the simble . bullet.
mmany thanks.
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[JAWS-Users] new to jaws

[Robin]

how do i silence the simble • bullet.
mmany thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
How do you get it to stay in edit mode all the time? I didn't know it could 
and always manually switch mine to such every session. It's neat to know of 
this thanks in advance.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 8:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Since I always have it in edit mode it did slip my mind that space bar would
launch a scan in read only mode, thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: cheez

Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Thanks, Dave, I was going to mention f4 is to scan.

Vince

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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook


Either f4 or spacebar to launch a scan. However if you have Openbook in 
edit

mode, then only f4 will launch a scan. The default Openbook voice is very
similar to eloquence, so likely that is what you are hearing.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 07:59
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook


I believe David the head honcho of this list said press F4.
I really don't know, just ever since I installed it Elequis has been
speaking.  maybe OpenBook has the Elequis voice !

-Original Message- 
From: cheez

Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 5:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook

Eh, Kevin, how does one do that?


Vince

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Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 5:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] openbook



you can set OpenBook to use jaws speech instead of OpenBook speech!  it's
always been like that since OpenBook 8!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It's what worked for me here whether it does or doesn't force the 
announcement of said message it does put the safely remove hardware option 
in the system tray which makes many feel better even if some argue you don't 
need to use it any longer.  I always do just to be safe.
Note there can also be more than one windows explorer entry so someone might 
have to activate or deactivate each to see what it might or might not cause 
to appear or disappear. But since these are toggles that's easy enough to 
do.

Take good care.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 11:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Hi,
I hate to be a barer of bad news but I have Windows Explorer turned off and
both my computers announce  that I can safely remove hardware. So I am just
guessing that this instructions on how to turn that command on in W10 is not
the answer for how to turn it on. I am running Jaws 018 and W10 the
latest.
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 6:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

I admit this is good information that I needed as well. I have been
preoccupied as of late and not paying attention to this stuff as much as I
should.

-Original Message-
From: Pam
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 9:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Thanks for the instructions.  Much appreciated.

Pam Mahuika
Otago
NEW ZEALAND


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, 31 December 2017 10:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Hi Pam,

1. Windows key + I, for Settings.
2. Navigate to, Personlization, press enter.
3. Navigate to, Taskbar, press enter.
4. Tab several times to,Select which icons appear on the Taskbar link, press
enter.
5. Tab through these icons, & what you want to check / turn on, is Windows
Explorer to have the Safe to Remove option show in the system tray.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Pam
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove


Hi I don't have the answer to your query  but I would like to know how to
have the safe to remove show up in the system tray.  Am using win10 Creators
and jfw17.

Pam Mahuika
Otago
NEW ZEALAND

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, 31 December 2017 9:10 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Not Announcing Safe To Remove

Hi All,

Running Widows 10 Creator & J16 thru J2018.  When I want to remove an
external drive using the Safe to Remove option from the system tray Jaws
does not,

Safe To Remove Hardware: The 'USB Mass Storage Device' device can now be
safely removed from the computer.

when I press enter on the drive I want to disconnect.  How can I get Jaws to
announce the above message in Widows 10?  I've been through Sounds in the
control panel, but couldn't find it there, but did I overlook it?  All help
will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much, & a happy New Year to all.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I know it confused me at first I wasn't sure if it meant it'd speak updates 
to drop box itself or whether it meant it was checking for updates to the 
scripts themselves. I'm glad it helped and a joyous Christmas and holiday 
season to all as well.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 8:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

Hi Robin,

You nailed it!  I've played with different configurations of settings so
many times in the Speak Dropbox configuration window, but the 1 thing I
never turned off / unchecked was the, Automatically Speak Dropbox Status,
option.  I always thought this option was the option that would tell me if
Dropbox was up to date  or not.  Well, turning this option off has seemed to
solve the excessive updating chattering problem!  Thank you very much for
your reply.  Merry Christmas to you, yours, & everyone else!
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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- Original Message - 
From: Robin Frost

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox


Hi,
That's speak drop box checking for updates to itself I believe and if my
understanding is correct in its own dialog that is speak drop box's you can
set that to off.
Its tray icon should get you to its preferences dialog.
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:33 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, J16 thru J2018, & Dropbox.  Jaws keeps reporting that
Dropbox is checking for an update.  How can I stop this update reporting
crap?  I don't know if it's the Speak Dropbox program responsible for this,
or if it's the Dropbox program & it's entries in the Task Scheduler?!  Any
help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much, & a very Merry Christmas to
all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
That's speak drop box checking for updates to itself I believe and if my 
understanding is correct in its own dialog that is speak drop box's you can 
set that to off.

Its tray icon should get you to its preferences dialog.
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 9:33 AM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Speak Dropbox

Hi All,

Running Windows 7 Pro, J16 thru J2018, & Dropbox.  Jaws keeps reporting that
Dropbox is checking for an update.  How can I stop this update reporting
crap?  I don't know if it's the Speak Dropbox program responsible for this,
or if it's the Dropbox program & it's entries in the Task Scheduler?!  Any
help will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks much, & a very Merry Christmas to
all.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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[JAWS-Users] Reading Categories in Outlook 2013

[East, Robin]

Hi Folks,

Using latest JAWS 18, MS Office Outlook 2013 on Win 10 machine

how can one  make JAWS 18 read the category name if the order of the columns 
show as follows: from, categories, subject, received, size.
Is there a way to make JAWS read them in this order as they are presented on 
the screen?

Robin East

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[JAWS-Users] Excel 2013 and JAWS 18 Dropdown menu

[East, Robin]

In Excel 2013 how does one now open a dropdown menu?
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[JAWS-Users] JAWS & Fix It

[Robin]

To Whom It May Concern:

Can someone, who is Knowledgeable as it pertains to The Steps 
associated with Fixingg JAWS, Please provide me with The Steps?


I need The Steps to Fix My Copies of JAWS (JAWS14) & JAWS (JAWS15) on 
My Windows7 PC. My JAWS14 & JAWS15 became Corrupt when I accidently 
UpDated My JAWS16 WithOut activating JAWS16 & I was using JAWS14 at 
the Time of the UpDate.


Your assistance is Very Much & Greatly appreciated!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm reporting in to say I'm here too and read you loud and clear good buddy. 
sorry couldn’t resist. Here's hoping it lasts (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

David, was this with all G-mail users, or just some of them.

I'm using G-mail for the Jaws Users list, but I still received your message,
which leads me to assume that I'm still on the list.

Can you confirm?

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] memo for the group

We have been hit in the past by email providers bouncing messages from this
domain, but today ranks as the worst in our history. We lost 162 members
today just under 25% of our total subscribers. Almost all of them were using
GMail with a couple of other ISPs thrown in for good measure.

We have never had a problem with GMail before but they sure made up for it
this morning.

If anybody has contact with one of the people who have been removed ask them
to contact GMail if they can and ask this domain be placed on their white
list or whatever they happen to call it.

A few more days like this and there won’t be much of a point in going on.

I remember as a little boy my dad saying you can’t fight city hall. In this
case you can’t fight being black listed.
David Ferrin
Life is what happens after you have already made other plans.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with another ISP

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not with that ISP but Google gave me this and I thought it might help 
those who are:

Robin
How to get your emails white-listed by SBC Global / AT - Quora
https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-get-your-emails-white-listed-by-SBC-Global-AT-T

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with another ISP

If anybody knows any list members on

sbcglobal.net

please contact them to get this domain put on some sort of safe senders list 
or the like. I just received around 12 bouncing notices from that domain and 
a couple from bell south.


This domain generates a lot of email as you all know and so it does not take 
much to end up on a Spam list for the lack of a better term.

David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] How to make your default windo Maximized every time you open an application

[East, Robin]

Folks, I received this from a co-worker and it works so very well.
If anyone finds that this does not work please notify me.
To make your windo maximized every time

- Open the IE 11 (or any other application window) and size the window to your 
liking (in our case we want it maximized
Windows up arrow or alt + spacebar +x
Check to ensure by using JAWS + F10
arrow down to your application and it should say `maximized`
Then tap escape
- Now press ALT + spacebar (this will open up the System menu),
then arrow down until you hear `Close`
-, Press CTRL + Enter to close the program
- This will set the IE window (or any other selected application window) to 
open at the maximized setting every time.
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Speaking strictly for myself during the most recent two crippling shutdowns 
this method failed as something in the jfw hang caused me to not be able to 
impact the cursor by using keyboard commands thus even if I got into the 
shutdown menu I could not by any means known to man machine or beast move 
the cursor off of shutdown nor could I invoke the shutdown that supposedly 
had focus. It is a sad sorry state of affairs when it afflicts one and I 
never saw it before the most recent build of jfw 18.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mauricio Molina

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 8:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Tom,

Another way to shut down or restart your computer when JAWS crashes is by
pressing Windows Key+X, followed by the letter U. At this point, pressing
the letter R will restart the computer and pressing the letter U will shut
your computer down. I am not saying it is a better way, just another way,
and it is always good to have a backup.

Mauricio

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 11:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Jim:

I will also try this method, the next time I experience the Jaws crash.

Thanks for sharing!

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down.
Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to
shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what
I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps.
Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is
really not nice at all.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the
problem and are working on it.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my
Windows 7 laptop.

It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word
document.

Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does
the Windows run command.

Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.

Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.

Thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Gracious me waiting two to three minutes if it crashes multiple times in a 
day adds up and sure takes a bite out of one's productivity.  I do wish 
someone at VFO could get to the root cause of this please and thank you.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: DGH

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Jaws crashes on me 2 or 3 times a day but I have never needed to do a hard 
shut down.  I can just wait, which may be 2 or 3 minutes and Jaws will start 
up again.  I do notice that Jaws appears in the sys tray more than once 
after it restarts.  Using Jaws 18, Windows 7 and MS Office 2013.  I also 
notice that Jaws shuts down most often whenever I am using an MS Office 
product.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2017 12:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi,
Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I 
said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still 
couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection 
successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 
second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety.
I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you 
seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail 
then?

Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam.
Thanks bunches again.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down.
Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to 
shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what 
I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps.

Smiles.


Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in 
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when 
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further 
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech 
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you 
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It 
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so 
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it 
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is 
really not nice at all.

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit 
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the 
problem and are working on it.


Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my 
Windows 7 laptop.


It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word 
document.


Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does 
the Windows run command.


Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is 
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.


Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing 
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to 
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and wind

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Really? Oh this is very interesting thank you I'll surely try it for as I 
said getting to the shut down menu other ways though successful I still 
couldn’t arrow up or down off of shut down to make another selection 
successfully. I've seen many crashes from which jfw recovers after a 30 
second or so wait but this is a crash of a different panic inducing variety. 
I'll let you know if this works should I encounter it again. So have you 
seen such crashes as these where the normal means of resurrecting jfw fail 
then?
Pin head don't know about that especially if this delivers me from a jam. 
Thanks bunches again.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Robin, the next time that happens, instead of doing a hard shut down. 
Press Control+ALT+Delete, in a few seconds Jaws should speak, up arrow to 
shut down, press enter, down arrow to the restart, press enter. This is what 
I have done in the past to avoid a hard shut down. I hope this helps. 
Smiles.



Your humble pinhead!
Owner of the W-10 and Jaws Yahoo group! Smiles.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2017 12:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in 
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when 
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further 
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech 
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you 
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It 
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so 
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it 
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is 
really not nice at all.

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit 
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the 
problem and are working on it.


Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Behler

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my 
Windows 7 laptop.


It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word 
document.


Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does 
the Windows run command.


Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is 
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.


Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing 
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to 
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.


Thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

[Robin Frost]

Hi Tom and all,
I can absolutely corroborate tom's experience. It's happened to me twice in 
the past week using the most recent build of jfw 18 and Windows 10; and when 
it does none of the usual methods for resurrecting jfw work at all. further 
even if one can get NVDA or Narrator running while you have speech 
navigation is hampered to such a degree that even in the shut down menu you 
can't get cursor off shut down and onto restart no matter what you do.  It 
is bad, very bad indeed. the only way out is a hard shutdown which I so 
loathe doing. I haven't been able to pin down a cause for what brings it 
about so I can't make it happen at will but when it happens as I said it is 
really not nice at all.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 2:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Thanks, Miriam.

At least I know it's not just me, and I'm not alone.

Tom Behler


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 1:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I called FS about this problem because I noticed it also on my 64 bit
windows 7 computer after getting Jaws 18. They said they know about the
problem and are working on it.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

I have noticed the Jaws crashing issue here as well, using Jaws 18 on my
Windows 7 laptop.

It seems to happen occasionally when I am exiting out of a Microsoft Word
document.

Exiting out of, and then re-starting Jaws does not seem to help, nor does
the Windows run command.

Very disconcerting, since the only way I seem to be able to get Jaws back is
to do a hard shutdown of the computer, followed by a re-boot.

Definitely not good.

Dr.  tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Ferguson
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2017 8:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS crashing

Hi all.

Recently, whilst using JAWS at work, the program has been crashing
unpredictably.  Is anyone aware of an issue which could be causing this to
happen?  I am currently using JAWS 18.0.2530 and windows 10.

Thanks,

Adam.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
It can be found here.
https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui
and sites it works with
https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/supportedsites.html
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Merv Keck

Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 1:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] YouTube to MP3

YouTube BLG is accessible with Jaws. I don't have a link for it but it works
very well. It does not have all the options that the one you mentioned has
but it does a very good job. It even does playlists without a premium
subscription.
Hope that helps.
Merv


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 12:37 PM
To: JAWS Users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Youtube to MP3

Hi everyone!

Does anyone know of an accessible Youtube to MP3 convertor? The one I just
looked at had an installer that was loaded down with third party programs
with opt out options that weren't accessible, so I canceled the install.
That one was from DVD Video Soft.

Another one that I looked at from Free Make wasn't accessible.

I used to use Youtube to MP3 convertor.org but for the past several months,
all it does is throw up a message about maintenance and to try again in an
hour or so.

It doesn't have to be free, though that would be nice.

Thanks!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up a Gmail Account

[East, Robin]

Hi, I to am looking how to put a gmail account into Outlook Using Outlook 2010 
and JAWS 18 on 64 bit machine.
I do not want to forward my gmail to another mail client but want to access my 
gmail via Outlook.
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of N K Shackelford
Sent: November 16, 2016 2:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] setting up a Gmail Account

When you are on your Gmail web page, there are forwarding instructions that
are pretty straight forward, and I did mine from that. Had no problem.

Nance


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Pam Mahuika
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] setting up a Gmail Account

Hi I am using Outlook 2010, jfw17 and windows 7 and I would like to put my
Gmail account into Outlook.  I have an xtra account in Outlook but
eventually want to move all my emails over to Gmail so would also like to
know how to toggle from one account to the next until such time that I've
changed all mail.

Easy step by step instructions would be appreciated.

Pam Mahuika
South Dunedin
Otago
New Zealand
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Live Mail Irratation

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I have no answer for the problem but can verify experiencing it as well and 
suspect that since support for the program from Microsoft will be ending in 
early 2017 it might only get worse over time.
That's why I've begun using Microsoft Outlook and I'm sure fans of other 
programs will chime in as well with their favorites. While it's true that as 
long as one has an installer for the program and can get it up and running 
it will remain usable this highlights one of the problems that comes with 
continued use of such programs which won't continue to evolve to integrate 
into newer operating systems or to handle newer protocols or security 
concerns.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Teresa Arroyo Llosa

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Live Mail Irratation

I am having that problem too. A temperamental program.

Teresa Arroyoo Llosa

-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 3:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Live Mail Irratation

Hello. Can anyone tell me how to correct a problem with Windows Live Mail?
Periodically, when I arrow up and down the Inbox list, my mail program will
tell me that the server has terminated the connection. And it is for a
variety of reasons that are not true i.e., moments of activity. Thanks in
advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] cannot install jaws 18/getting error message

[East, Robin]

I went from 16 to 18 with no issue. I used the download executable file and ran 
it from my temp folder and ran as admin. 
robin
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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of joanne
Sent: November 8, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] cannot install jaws 18/getting error message

I am unable to complete the installation of jaws 18.  I downloaded it from the 
FS site, and it will get to the please wait page with all the clicks.  But 
after awhile it says it could not be installed.  I am using windows 7 home.  
Should I put 17 in first?  I have 16 but hadn't installed 17 on this computer.  

I appreciate any assistance.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to navigate tables and columns in ms word 2013

[East, Robin]

Pending on the JAWS version have you tried going into table mode, when in the 
table, to do an insert + T spacebar then tap T for tables. Then you can just 
use the arrow keys.
Robin

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-Original Message-
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Of Mr. Ed
Sent: November 8, 2016 8:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to navigate tables and columns in ms word 2013

Hi Jerry,
What I do is when I am in the table I hold down the ctrl+Alt and keep them
held down then use your arrow keys to move around the table.
Mr. Ed 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 7:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to navigate tables and columns in ms word 2013

Morning. Can anyone give me some instruction as to how to navigate tables
and columns in MS Word 2013, Windows 10? Many Thanks.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is JAWS18.0.1835 alpha or beta build?

[East, Robin]

Actually, I have an SMA for two more versions and no update was showing. I 
downloaded the JAWS 18 and launched the executable file. 

robin

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Subash
Sent: November 1, 2016 11:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is JAWS18.0.1835 alpha or beta build?

Hi Prateek, the update under the JAWS help will only show you updates 
available if you have JAWS SMA available or if there is an update to that 
version of JAWS, i.e JAWS 17.

-Original Message- 
From: Humberto Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 1:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is JAWS18.0.1835 alpha or beta build?

Hello Prateek:
JAWS 18 is no longer in Beta, it came out last Thursday.

Humberto



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of timappl...@shaw.ca
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2016 12:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is JAWS18.0.1835 alpha or beta build?

Hi there, the latest build is the full release of the product. I'm enjoying
using JAWS 18.

I hope this helps.

-Original Message- 
From: Dujari, Prateek
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Is JAWS18.0.1835 alpha or beta build?

Hello gang.
On two of my Windows PC's, checking for updates under the help menu in
JAWS17 tells me no update is available. However going to the JAWS screen
reader page of Freedom Scientific, I find JAWS18.0.1835 is ready to download

and install.
Is this still a beta3 version or the released alpha build?
Prateek

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and itunes support

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I've seen nothing in writing that would indicate such and would find such an 
assertion suspect in the highest degree as it doesn't seem like it's serve 
its maker's purpose to even state such a thing if indeed they even had.

Just my two cents no one asked for.
Speaking of JFW and iTunes I made Apple Accessibility aware of a bug whereby 
when syncing something like music or ringtones if you choose sync selected 
tracks or tones screen readers are unable to read the resulting list view 
from which you can check your selections.  If others are so inclined feel 
free to join in drawing Apple's attention to it in hopes it can be fixed as 
they acknowledge it's their issue not one lain at the feet of screen 
readers.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Josh Kennedy

Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and itunes support

hey someone emailed me saying jaws is dropping support for itunes in
jaws18 and beyond? is this true or will jaws continue to work with
itunes for years to come?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 16 07 narrator manual

[Robin]

I'm NOT Sure, but Are you QuitePossibly Referrin'To This User'sGuide, 
I Posted a While Ago. Here ItIs Again.


URL:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22798/windows-10-narrator-get-started

At 04:00 PM 9/3/2016, you wrote:
I saw on here someone posted microsoft put together a users manual 
for the upgraded narrator does anyone have that link?

Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

[East, Robin]

Thank you. Much appreciated.
Robin

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of James Flusche
Sent: August 19, 2016 10:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

You can only use narrator at this time with the Edge browser.


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Behalf Of East, Robin
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 10:09 AM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

Is Microsoft Edge to be used at all at this time either with JAWS 16 or 17?
Or, do we stick with IE until further notice?
robin

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[JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge and JAWS 16

[East, Robin]

Is Microsoft Edge to be used at all at this time either with JAWS 16 or 17? Or, 
do we stick with IE until further notice?
robin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] customizing W-10 with Jaws, anniversary update

[East, Robin]

Very much appreciated!!

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of James Flusche
Sent: August 11, 2016 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] customizing W-10 with Jaws, anniversary update

Hi Jaws users list, this is my updated section of my W-10 and Jaws, complete 
guide for the anniversary update to W-10. Please read and let me know what you 
all think about the guide. This helps me to determine if I am helping you all 
learn about W-10.

Section, Customizing Windows 10 with Jaws.

Customizing w-10 with Jaws.

Overview.
Each section starts with***.
1. Reinstalling Jaws 17.
2. Setting default programs in w-10.
3. Changing your folder options, now called File Explorer Options, in w-10.
4. How to Turn off the background apps in w-10.
5. How to change how Windows updates are delivered.
6. Live Tile Region, now called, pinns view list box.
7. The All Apps region, now called, apps view list box, of the Start button 
area.
8. How to put the, This PC, Icon on the Desktop.
9. How to put a shortcut to your user folders, on the Desktop.
10. Making Program shortcut Icons, on your Desktop.
11. How to put a shortcut, for iE on your Desktop or Taskbar.
12. Using a Pin to log-in to w-10.
13. How to Verify your Microsoft Account in Windows 10, I think this is correct.
14. Miscellaneous.
15. Making your W-10 desktop look like W-7.
16. The Notification area and the Notification Chevron button.

1. ***Reinstalling Jaws 17.
1. The first thing you may want to do on your Windows 10 computer is, Download 
the latest version of Jaws 17 to your Download folder.
2. If you upgraded to w-10 from w-7 or w-8.1, you should for best performance, 
uninstall Jaws, you can keep shared components and shared settings, so, 
uninstall Jaws 17.
3. You then can use Narrator, press Windows key+Enter, to turn Narrator on/off, 
to go to your download folder where a downloaded copy of Jaws 17 should be 
already downloaded.
4. Now, install Jaws 17, Freshly on to your new w-10 computer.
5. This has proven to increase the performance of Jaws on w-10, especially, in 
the Start button area, and in the Settings area of w-10.
6. Redo your Jaws shortcut keystroke, Control+ALT+J.
7. Redo your Jaws setting to make sure, that it is set to come on at the 
log-onscreen.
For whatever reason these two settings are not saved, all other Jaws settings 
are preserved.
8. If you are using Open book, you should do a fresh reinstall of this program 
as well as, any other screen reading programs, on your w-10 computer.


2. ***Setting default programs in w-10.
1. windows key+I, Opens the settings area, search edit box.
Tab one time, You are in a horizontal list of 9 items, use your right and left 
arrow keys to move across the items.
2. Right arrow to System, press enter, tab one time, down arrow to default apps 
and press enter.
3. Tab across this window, look for the internet browser which by default is 
Microsoft edge.
4. Press the spacebar on the edge, tab to IE 11, press the spacebar, this will 
set IE as your default browser.
Do the same thing with all the different default programs, for example, email 
clients.
5. Tab to, say, WLM email client default, press the spacebar on it, tab to say, 
Outlook 2016, and press the spacebar, to set Outlook 2016 as your default email 
client, .


3. ***Changing your File Explorer Options:
The "Old folder Options" is now called, File Explorer Options.
So for an easier way of finding it, do the following.
1. Press the Windows key or Press enter on the Start button.
2. Start typing, file explorer options.
3. Press down and up arrow, look for File Explorer Options, Control Panel, 
press enter.
4. By default, on the general tab the first item is set to Quick Access.
Down arrow one time to change it to, This PC if that is what you wish, I like 
the quick access setting better.
Tab to, browse folders, open each folder in the same window, radio button 
checked.
Tab again to, Click items as follows double click to open an item single click 
to select, radio button checked.
Tab again to, Privacy show recently used files in quick access, check-box, mine 
is unchecked, press the spacebar to change.
Tab again to, Privacy show frequently used folders in quick access check-box, 
mine is unchecked.
Tab again to, Privacy clear button, this will clear the privacy tabs.
Tab again to, Restore defaults button, this will reset all file explorer 
settings to the default settings.
Press Control+Tab, to go to th

Re: [JAWS-Users] narrator in w 10

[Robin]

I HOPE this Helps you & Is what You're LookingFor

Simply Copy TheFollowing URL into 
YourBrowser (InternetBrowser) of YourChoice


Microsoft'sNarrator Guide

URL:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/22798/windows-10-narrator-get-started

At 12:54 PM 8/12/2016, you wrote:
The narrator in w 10 is supposed to be much 
improved. Microsoft said that when the w 10 
anniversary was released they would put out a 
new updated user manual for narrator. I looked 
but I can’t find it. Can anyone tell me where it is?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] OneNote Scripts

[East, Robin]

I thank you

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Of Mario
Sent: August 10, 2016 4:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OneNote Scripts

you can take a look at OneNoteBlind scripts. go to the main site at 
doitblind.com and follow the link to OneNoteBlind. don't know if they 
really help because I hear that OneNote is very dificult to script for JAWS.



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Sent: Wednesday, Aug 10, 2016 5:43 PM EST
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OneNote Scripts

Folks are there any scripts out there  that will make OneNote accessible?
Robin

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[JAWS-Users] OneNote Scripts

[East, Robin]

Folks are there any scripts out there  that will make OneNote accessible?
Robin

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Force JAWS to use Single-user License instead of Network License

[East, Robin]

Under Utilities in JAWS find "re-initialize authorization". This should force 
JAWS to find the single license information.
Robin East

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Brian Prewitt
Sent: June 16, 2016 7:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Force JAWS to use Single-user License instead of Network 
License

Hi List,

 

Does anyone know how I can force JAWS to use the single-user serial number
on a laptop instead of the network serial number that we have?  JAWS goes
into 40-minute mode when one of my users is off of our network.  Even though
he has a single-user license installed on his machine.

 

Your help is greatly appreciated,

 

Brian

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[JAWS-Users] VFO has purchased AI Square

[East, Robin]

Since Freedom is part of this VFO the new company is AI Square, Freedom, and 
Optelec...
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with PDF document

[East, Robin]

Can you do a control + a to highlight everything then do a copy then paste it 
to notepad, word, or to an email?
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicki
Sent: May 12, 2016 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with PDF document

The problem is not that I cannot read it. The document reads fine online. 
The problem is that I want to save it for later.

I have always been able to download them and do my bank statements at a 
later date, not online. I am looking for a way to save the PDF.


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From: "East, Robin" <robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca>
To: "JAWS" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with PDF document


>I may be way behind on any of your emails so pardon me if this was already 
>mentioned or tried. With JAWS 17 have you tried the OCR which should pull 
>the text to a virtual screen. Then copy and paste?
>
> When opening up document and you get document empty try:
> Only JAWS version 16 and up
> Insert + spacebar
> Then tap O for OCR
> Then tap D for document
>
> Robin
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Vicki
> Sent: May 12, 2016 3:06 PM
> To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with PDF document
>
> Is there a setting that will allow the menus or tools to show up with JAWS 
> 14 or 17 so that a document can be saved?
>
> I can no longer download my bank statements, but I can get them to appear 
> on the screen with tools which include an option to save the document. 
> Neither JAWS version is seeing the tools.
>
> There are no menus and the JAWS curser is not showing any options either.
>
> The context menu appears blank.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
>
> "And with us too, don't we have to wash each other's feet day after day? 
> But what does this mean? That all of us must help one another. Sometimes I 
> am angry with someone or other . . . but . . . let it go, let it go, and 
> if he or she asks you a favor, do it."
>
> Pope Francis
> Homily at the Mass of the Last Supper, 28 March 2013
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with PDF document

[East, Robin]

I may be way behind on any of your emails so pardon me if this was already 
mentioned or tried. With JAWS 17 have you tried the OCR which should pull the 
text to a virtual screen. Then copy and paste?

When opening up document and you get document empty try:
Only JAWS version 16 and up
Insert + spacebar
Then tap O for OCR
Then tap D for document

Robin
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Vicki
Sent: May 12, 2016 3:06 PM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem with PDF document

Is there a setting that will allow the menus or tools to show up with JAWS 14 
or 17 so that a document can be saved?

I can no longer download my bank statements, but I can get them to appear on 
the screen with tools which include an option to save the document. Neither 
JAWS version is seeing the tools.

There are no menus and the JAWS curser is not showing any options either.

The context menu appears blank.

Thanks.

Vicki

"And with us too, don't we have to wash each other's feet day after day? But 
what does this mean? That all of us must help one another. Sometimes I am angry 
with someone or other . . . but . . . let it go, let it go, and if he or she 
asks you a favor, do it."

Pope Francis 
Homily at the Mass of the Last Supper, 28 March 2013
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Java (JDK) installation

[East, Robin]

The switch... Did you go to start search for ease of access then Use computer 
without a display here arrow down and make sure the Java access bridge is 
checked if not check it and tab to "ok" Then give it a go
Robin

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Of Jason White
Sent: May 11, 2016 6:15 PM
To: Jaws-Users <Jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessibility of Java (JDK) installation

While installing Java (JDK 8) under Windows 10, I discovered that JAWS was
unable to read the dialogues of the installation software.

A colleague helped me to complete the installation. I then invoked the
"jabswitch -enable" command as noted in the Java accessibility documentation,
which is supposed to enable the Java Access Bridge. After dooing so however,
the Java Control Panel (presumably a Java application that is included in the
Java package) was still not accessible with JAWS.

The machine is running JAWS 17.

Have others encountered this problem? Is there a known fix? I need to run at
least one Java application, although it may not be using the Java SWING
components and thus it may be accessible anyway - I'll probably have an
opportunity to find out tomorrow.
It's actually the Cisco WebEx Meeting application, which I want to use for
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ARIA and JAWS

[East, Robin]

Hi, thank you for this. I am not certain if this will work for ARIA but will 
play with it. I thank you. 
Robin


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: March 30, 2016 9:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ARIA and JAWS

Hi, Robin.

To address your last questions first, you can create a new profile in the JAWS 
Voices dialogs that retains what you already have but that adds features. For 
example, in a given profile, you can select a specific "person" for certain 
tasks, such as one for the PC cursor and another for the JAWS cursor. You can 
also select the rate at which that person speaks. 

I think the easiest way to get what you want is to start from your existing 
default and tab through the Voice Adjustment dialog options. You'll see the 
ones I mention. In this case, choose a "person" to speak the voice you want to 
verbalize messages and select the rate. Then when you arrive at "save," 
consider giving the resulting profile a new name. this way you don't lose your 
settings in the old profile but can test how the new settings sound with the 
new profile. 

As for re-hearing messages, one technique that often works is to press the 
numpad's left mouse button twice quickly. When you mention "history," are you 
referring to the JAWS layered command for the last several (one hundred?) 
verbalizations? If not, try it. I've found it rarely works for me. It's amazing 
how much stuff gets said in a very short time.

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Of East, Robin
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2016 10:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] ARIA and JAWS

Folks, in an ARIA event when a message is spoken via ARIA it is unexpected. So, 
is there a JAWS key to repeat that ARIA message other than going through 
"history" to get it?

Is there a theme or way to change the voice and rate of that voice so it is 
different than that  we use for regular JAWS use? It would be helpful if we can 
have the ARIA message come up with a voice and rate of speed of our choosing 
that would be different then the default JAWS boice we are using.

If these are not part of the JAWS package can it be something Freedom can 
consider in future upgrades?
Robin East
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[JAWS-Users] ARIA and JAWS

[East, Robin]

Folks, in an ARIA event when a message is spoken via ARIA it is unexpected. So, 
is there a JAWS key to repeat that ARIA message other than going through 
"history" to get it?

Is there a theme or way to change the voice and rate of that voice so it is 
different than that  we use for regular JAWS use? It would be helpful if we can 
have the ARIA message come up with a voice and rate of speed of our choosing 
that would be different then the default JAWS boice we are using.

If these are not part of the JAWS package can it be something Freedom can 
consider in future upgrades?
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I don't think it's a Windows 10 issue. I just upgraded iTunes using the 
latest build of both Windows 10 and JFW 17 by navigating to the help menu 
initiating check for updates, closing iTunes and following the prompts win 
the apple software updater with no issues at all.  Everything verbalized as 
it always did and iTunes is now up to date.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

Thanks George,
Maybe a w-10 problem.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 1:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

I have JAWS 17 and Windows 7 and updated iTunes yesterday with no problems.



“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 10:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] iTunes 12.3.317 has been released today

Good afternoon, Jaws users list.
For all the iTunes users.
iTunes 12.3.317 is out today.
Funny thing when I opened my iTunes today, it told me that there was an
update.
I tried like usual using Jaws 17, to go through the iTunes update normally
in which I have no issues doing to update iTunes.
Today however it failed twice.
So, I went to ninite.com and downloaded and ran it from there with no
issues.
This seems to be my week with facing all kinds of issues.LOL.
Yesterday, I added some audio files to my OneDrive group download page.
Microsoft wanted me to use the groove music app to play them from OneDrive.
That was fine.
But they had a stupid ad trying to get me to buy it for all my devices.
They had a get started button, but know way to decline the dumb thing.
I had to recreate my OneDrive shared folders on my desktop giving them a
slightly different name.
I then copied all the tutorials from the old folders to the new ones.
I stopped sharing the old folders and deleted them.
I put the new OneDrive folders in sink with my computer.
I got a share a OneDrive link for both folders individually.
I then had to switch to Jaws 16 to make changes to my Yahoo group settings,
Jaws 17 still will not work doing this task.
Both my OneDrive group download pages are working correctly now.
Seems like Microsoft is trying to integrate all their programs together.
This is a challenge all by itself, we don’t need all the ads to complicate
things even more.
Are any of you who are using Jaws 17 to update iTunes having any problems?
Thanks for listening.
Now time for more coffee.


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reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
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balanced with wealth.
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God sits.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem solved but new problem arises JAWS & NVDA simoltaniously

[East, Robin]

Once you re-start JAWS have you tried an insert plus Control plus Escape? This 
should re-initialize the scripts.
robin

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Of Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: March 7, 2016 1:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem solved but new problem arises JAWS & NVDA 
simoltaniously

Hi guys, so in solving one problem another one arose. I would like to pick
your brains with this one.
Jaws is running.
I press insert spacebar s and jaws announces speech off.
I press control alt n and NVDA starts.
I turn off speech on NVDA using insert s, NVDA announces speech mode off.
I press the pass through command for NVDA wich is insert f2.
Then I press insert spacebar s and jaws announces speech on.
Fantastic I figured this one out but things can never be easy a new problem
arises.
I can't at this point use my up and down arrow keys to read in a word
document or email jaws absolutely says nothing.  If I try arrowing up and
down on the desk top jaws reads everything on my desktop as usual.
Any ideas how to solve this one?
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not sure perhaps others will chime in who'd know better than do I 
currently.

I'll choose to defer to others as I wouldn't want to misinform.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

Robin, what about reviewing the detected potential threats. is it
possible to arrow thru the items and choose what you want to do with it.
or at least, use the JAWS cursor to review the list, if anything is
found? right now, with 2014's UI, JAWS doesn't find any items listed
even though there 2 items that are reported as being quarantined. and I
don't know how to display or interact with them.

On 2/9/2016 2:28 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
I'm running it and it seems to be quite usable over-all.  sometimes to
get to the different viewing tabs for different sets of controls you use
your arrow keys to get to them. Once a friend told me that I found it
quite easy with which to work in tandem with Jaws.

I hope this helps.
Robin

-Original Message- From: Mario
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

I'm still using VIPRE Internet Security 2014 because of the
inaccessibility of 2015, but now that 2016 is current, I want to know
how accessible it's interface is with JAWS 16? I'm thinking of upgrading
because I am thinking while the interface to 2014 is mostly accessible,
eventually the workings of 2016 won't be compatible with the interface
of 2014. and the 2016 interface most likely offers improved
functions/features and accessibility to VIS's scanning workings, such as
reading the scan results in a separate window  and any detected
threats/items and choosing to quarantine/delete such items, and other
functions/features.

any suggestions/recommendations? the rep I chatted with yesterday told
me that the 2016 UI is not screen reader friendly and that I should
refrain from upgrading, but I don't buy that. what do you guys/gals who
use it or not think?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm running it and it seems to be quite usable over-all.  sometimes to get 
to the different viewing tabs for different sets of controls you use your 
arrow keys to get to them. Once a friend told me that I found it quite easy 
with which to work in tandem with Jaws.


I hope this helps.
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: Mario

Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2016 10:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE 2016 revisited

I'm still using VIPRE Internet Security 2014 because of the
inaccessibility of 2015, but now that 2016 is current, I want to know
how accessible it's interface is with JAWS 16? I'm thinking of upgrading
because I am thinking while the interface to 2014 is mostly accessible,
eventually the workings of 2016 won't be compatible with the interface
of 2014. and the 2016 interface most likely offers improved
functions/features and accessibility to VIS's scanning workings, such as
reading the scan results in a separate window  and any detected
threats/items and choosing to quarantine/delete such items, and other
functions/features.

any suggestions/recommendations? the rep I chatted with yesterday told
me that the 2016 UI is not screen reader friendly and that I should
refrain from upgrading, but I don't buy that. what do you guys/gals who
use it or not think?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

[East, Robin]

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I find this "pause" usually occurs when I run a JAVA application
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Robbins
Sent: February 5, 2016 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Jim,

A top troubleshooter at FS called me about this issue prior to going on 
vacation. They are aware of the issue and know it is somehow related to JAWS. 
The trick is trying to figure out why so many folks are having issues, but not 
everyone. Again, they want folks to report the issue so they can better 
diagnose the problem.

Best,
Al

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Jim
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 2:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Yes, usually three or four windows opened up at the same time.
However, this still happens sometimes with only two windows opened up.
I have tried everything I can think of to correct the issue, with no luck.
So, the more of us testing this issue, the better.
I think it is something in the Jaws program, I could be wrong.
Above my pay grade!
Any help is appreciated with this issue.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 7:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Do you guys keep a large amount of windows open at the same time? Honestly on 
this windows 10 system which is the only one I have so far all is as steady as 
a rock. Just wondering if we could track this issue down by comparing notes.

-Original Message-
From: Neil Towery
Sent: Thursday, February 4, 2016 3:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

I get the pauses on Windows 10 and Windows 7, with either JAWS 16 or 17. I 
notified fFS, but got a generic reply. After that, I figured it was my 
computers.
Neil


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 12:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Hi George,
Thanks for confirming with me and with a lot of people on my group who are 
having this same issue.
I wanted to see if it was exclusively with w-10 and Jaws 17 or with other 
versions of Windows and Jaws 17.
So, you have answered my question, thanks.
The more of us who let F S Support know about this issue the better.
Again, this is an intermittent Jaws 17 lockup issue, hard to produce when you 
want to show someone at F S Support.






Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: George Martinez CPA
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Jim,
I am not in Windows 10 but Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and Office 365.
I have experienced the 10 second or more silence in JAWS 17.  I at first 
assumed it was due to having both MAGic and JAWS in the same machine which, of 
course, run perfectly together.
However, I am seeing some instances on this list of the instances of JAWS going 
silent.
I just switched to JAWS 16 and updated to the 16.0.4468 update.
So far I believe it is executing more quickly but time will tell if it 
eliminates the pauses.  More later.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net






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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 8:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] More testing of Jaws 17

Good morning Jaws Users group.
Last night I was doing research and other things.
So, I started out using the latest Jaws 16, and then switched to using the 
latest Jaws 17.
Let me know if any of you have noticed the following intermittent lockup o

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 question

[East, Robin]

Unclassified / Non classifié

Hi, instead of right clicking use the applications key and go to "properties".

robin

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Of Naomi Bolter
Sent: January 18, 2016 10:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 15 question

Hi everyone,

I've been made an admin on a work related distribution list in ms 2010 but I 
cannot modify the list as I am unable to click on it with jaws.

I was told to open a new message and right click on the contact list I've 
entered into the to field.

Does anyone know if there is another way?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 755 (PA)

[East, Robin]

Unclassified / Non classifié

Thank you. I did so and still on this particular machine it did not work.
Robin

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Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 13, 2016 12:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Robin,
Restart Outlook after making the changes. 
Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist
Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada
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Of East, Robin
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 12:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Unclassified / Non classifié

Thank you for this clarification. I have asked for and received "admin rights" 
to make these changes. I have made them no difference still an issue. However, 
a co-worker also made the changes and success. So now I am pondering...
robin

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Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Robin,
This is dependent on the Windows 7 settings, not the Office 2010 settings.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada 
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Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Protected A / Protégé A

Unfortunately, the install package for our Microsoft Office only has Canadian 
English or French Canadian so I cannot change the "language" to US English.

Thank you for this solution though.
robin

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Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755

Robin,
Go to Control Panel, Open the Region & Language settings, change the date 
format to English US and Voil'a. JAWS acts nice with the Outlook 2010 calendar. 
It is the only solution so far.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada

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Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 
755

Unclassified / Non classifié
Folks, I am still having issues with the Outlook Calendar where the current day 
of appointments is readable but as you move to the next day or the previous day 
the information moves on the screen and if you are sighted you see the next day 
or previous day appointments. However, JAWS is stuck on the current day. Total 
loss of focus.

A number of folks including technical Help at Freedom tell me this is fixable 
in the United States. As of today I have no way to correct this for folks in 
Canada.

If you have a solution can you put it to the list or send it to me privately.

The Calendar works well with JAWS 12 but not JAWS 16 and JAWS 17.

Anyone have a step by step solution to fix this issue?

I am using JAWS 16 last build Windows 7, and Microsoft Outlook 2010. I have 
also checked this using JAWS 17 latest build and results are the same.

Thank you
Robin east
Canada revenue Agency

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 755 (PA)

[East, Robin]

Unclassified / Non classifié

Thank you for this clarification. I have asked for and received "admin rights" 
to make these changes. I have made them no difference still an issue. However, 
a co-worker also made the changes and success. So now I am pondering...
robin

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Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

Robin,
This is dependent on the Windows 7 settings, not the Office 2010 settings.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist
Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada
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Of East, Robin
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755 (PA)

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Unfortunately, the install package for our Microsoft Office only has Canadian 
English or French Canadian so I cannot change the "language" to US English.

Thank you for this solution though.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Castonguay, Guy (SSC/SPC)
Sent: January 7, 2016 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using 
Win 755

Robin,
Go to Control Panel, Open the Region & Language settings, change the date 
format to English US and Voil'a. JAWS acts nice with the Outlook 2010 calendar. 
It is the only solution so far.

Mes respects - Regards
Guy Castonguay

Spécialiste en Technologie de remplacement de la vue - Vision Replacement 
Technology Specialist Services Partagés Canada - Shared Services Canada

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 16 and JAWS 17 with Outlook 2010 Calendar using Win 
755

Unclassified / Non classifié
Folks, I am still having issues with the Outlook Calendar where the current day 
of appointments is readable but as you move to the next day or the previous day 
the information moves on the screen and if you are sighted you see the next day 
or previous day appointments. However, JAWS is stuck on the current day. Total 
loss of focus.

A number of folks including technical Help at Freedom tell me this is fixable 
in the United States. As of today I have no way to correct this for folks in 
Canada.

If you have a solution can you put it to the list or send it to me privately.

The Calendar works well with JAWS 12 but not JAWS 16 and JAWS 17.

Anyone have a step by step solution to fix this issue?

I am using JAWS 16 last build Windows 7, and Microsoft Outlook 2010. I have 
also checked this using JAWS 17 latest build and results are the same.

Thank you
Robin east
Canada revenue Agency

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating a desktop link for a particular web site

[East, Robin]

Unclassified / Non classifié

Okay, I am using JAWS 16, and internet Explorer11

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Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: January 7, 2016 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating a desktop link for a particular web site

When I go to the site and press the applications key, I don't have an
option for creating a shortcut.

K

On 1/7/16, East, Robin <robin.e...@cra-arc.gc.ca> wrote:
> Unclassified / Non classifié
>
> Hi, when you are on the web site press your application key.
>
> Then arrow down to create a short cut...
>
> Hit enter. Then you have an option as to where the shortcut should be
> created choose desktop.
> This should work.
> robin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Kimber Gardner
> Sent: January 7, 2016 9:59 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating a desktop link for a particular web site
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've done this successfully before, but can't remember how so any help
> will be appreciated.
>
> I want to place a shortcut to a web site on my windows 7 desktop.
> Would someone list the steps for me. The only instructions I've found
> on my own require a lot of clicking and dragging which is problematic.
> Also I know I didn't have to do that the last time.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Kimber
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of Kangaroo. 

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a 
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one 
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just 200 
grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows Hello 
fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor 
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz. 
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which you 
can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more storage. 

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use", 
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use 
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 3.5 
to male MicroUSB 

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10. 
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac 
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be testing 
it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and usb keyboard 
and headset as well as without the docking station using Bluetooth keyboard and 
Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems to be what I was looking 
for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI to connect to screen or 
IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen using the HDMI port.  
However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack) thus the use of the micro 
USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a keyboard. Voice commands will 
be of interest using Microsoft's answer to Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for simple 
applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit may become 
very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.

 

robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic, 
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

I had to get sighted help. Used the HDMI and wifi. 
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 9:31 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

How did you get JAWS on the thing initially?

-Original Message- 
From: East, Robin
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 10:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Here is some info for those that did not google it:
InFocus, an American electronics company has announced the launch of 
Kangaroo.

Size: 124mm length, 80.5mm width, and 12.9mm girth, is roughly the size of a 
smartphone. It comes with a removable base unit, which has an HDMI port, one 
USB 2.0 port, one USB 3.0 port, and a DC power port. The device weighs just 
200 grams (without adapter and power cord), and even features a Windows 
Hello fingerprint sensor

it is powered by a quad-core Intel 'Cherrytrail' Atom x5-Z8500 processor 
clocked at 1.44GHz, with a Burst frequency of 2.24GHz.
Other features include 2GB of LPDDR3 RAM, and a 32GB of eMMC storage, which 
you can expand via microSDXC card (up to 128GB) should you need more 
storage.

The battery is suggested to last four hours under "casual use",
the portable PC also has a Micro-USB port for charging. I think one can use 
this port for a headset if your headset is adapted with an adapter  female 
3.5 to male MicroUSB

the Kangaroo runs Windows 10.
The mini-PC features Wi-Fi 802.11ac
and Bluetooth 4.0 wireless connectivity.

About a hundred US dollars or 144Canadian including shipping and taxes.

I have put JAWS 17 on this and it seems to be pretty peppy. I will be 
testing it more this weekend to see how it works with docking station and 
usb keyboard and headset as well as without the docking station using 
Bluetooth keyboard and Bluetooth headset. Curious I am and so far it seems 
to be what I was looking for. There is no screen so one has to use the HDMI 
to connect to screen or IPad. Voice comes through when connected to screen 
using the HDMI port.  However, I just need speakers ( no headphone jack) 
thus the use of the micro USB port for wired headset may be useful)  and a 
keyboard. Voice commands will be of interest using Microsoft's answer to 
Apples SIRI.

Most important is how jaws will work in this small unit. I suspect for 
simple applications all will be fine but if one opens up to much then unit 
may become very sluggish due to the limited 2 gig of RAM.



robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

I've only been monitoring this thread enough to make sure it is on topic,
but I must admit it has got my attention.

So it is some sort of full fledged tablet that can run JAWS, interesting.

-Original Message- 
From: Greg Wocher
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hello,
This little computer only costs $99.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

On 12/30/2015 8:41 PM, TheHangMan wrote:
>   Hi,
> So, how much does this little puppy cost???
>
> Thanks,
> Jorge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Wocher
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17
>
> Hello,
> This rruns a full fledged version of Windows10. It is not running the
> mobile version. I listened to the Windows Weekly podcast and Leo
> actually had this hooked up to an iPad Pro for the monitor. It is a
> really nifty little device. It is a full fledged PC you can carry in
> your poket.
>
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
>
> On 12/30/2015 8:07 AM, Robin wrote:
>> Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the
>> Lumia1520?
>>
>> Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON
>> Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or OS
>> of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
>> At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>>> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6
>>> or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>>> Robin East
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
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>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

>From what I have read one should be able to use Bluetooth headset and keyboard 
>without the docking station.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of valiant8086
Sent: December 31, 2015 8:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi.

If you have any, try pairing your bluetooth headphones or speaker to it 
and a bluetooth keyboard, and see if you can disconnect it from its dock 
and still be able to operate it.

Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
On 12/30/2015 7:55 AM, East, Robin wrote:
> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or 
> IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
> Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Just so you know HP will be able to walk you through it with sighted 
assistance but they won't be able to make bios changes remotely if that was 
what you were thinking.  Hope that helps.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 8:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new Laptop

Thanks to all that have given advice on this matter.
The shift f10 does not work, adding the fn key to it does not work either.
The f keys are working in action mode so I will be either going into the
bios or just calling HP support and have them take care of it because I also
need to know how to shut off the mouse pad.
Thanks again to all and Happy New Year.
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to
get it to do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls
ActionKey mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


"A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a
masochist and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message -
From: Kurt Miller
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[Robin]

Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the 
Lumia1520?


Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON 
Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or 
OS of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?

At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 
or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.

Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

Windows 10 home edition
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin
Sent: December 30, 2015 7:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Is this QuitePossibly Microsoft's Lumia950 & Lumia950XL? Or is it the 
Lumia1520?

Does this LittleLittle PC operate ON 
Microsofot'sWindows10-Windows10Mobile?If not, Which MobileOS and/or 
OS of Microsoft's is it running (OperatingOn)?
At 04:55 AM 12/30/2015, you wrote:
>JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 
>or IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
>Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on newHPlaptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sorry to say that at the present officially no screen readers work in the 
bios area as no sound drivers load when booted into it.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 7:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on 
newHPlaptop


Hi,
I received an HP computer for Christmas. I have the same situation of not
having an applications key. First of all, shift + F10 does the same thing as
the application key. Next, will JAWS work in the bios, or does that require
sighted help? I would like to get my function keys working the way they are
supposed to as well. That is a pain having to press the FN key and the F4,
for example. If that will work with JAWS, I will go into the bios and do
that. Thanks and congrads on your new HP. I love HP computers. Have a great
one.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 1:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new
HPlaptop

Curt,

HP has re-mapped the function keys.
Usually, just to the right of the lefthand control-key is a Func key.  You
need
to press that in conjunction woith one of the functionkeys f1-f12 to get it
to
do the traditional function.  Otherwise, you are in what HP calls ActionKey
mode.

Generally, you can return the HP to function like normal:

This "amazing" technology is called "Action Keys Mode", and the good news is
that it is very easily turned off to get your laptop back to working the
standard way of having to press the fn key.

Steps to fix:
- Shut Down your computer completely. Don't put in Sleep or Hibernate
- Press Power button to start
- Immediately press F10 key a few times
- This will start the BIOS
- Go to 3rd page (System Configuration). Press right arrow key to go to next
page
- Select the "Action Keys Mode". Press ENTER. Select DISABLE
- Save and Exit


"A person cannot survive as a true Spartan fan unless he is a bit of a
masochist
and a very large optimist."

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Miller

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop


Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HPlaptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
it is accessed often by pressing f8 I believe it is while the pc is first 
starting up allowing someone with vision to choose how they'd like to boot 
the pc I.E. into system bios or safe mode or normal for instance.  I've been 
told by HP reps that it also can be found after pressing control alt and 
delete together.

I hope that helps.
If you have a pair of eyes handy you could try that or call when they're 
available and I'm sure that HP tech support could walk you through it. they 
do have a special accessibility department. Its number is:

877-656-7058
I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 12:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new 
HPlaptop


Wayne and Robin,
First, thanks for responding. Wayne, I do not have those extra keys on mine.
Robin, do you know where the bios is at so that I can get sighted help to
get this working?
Kurt

After blindness and a double organ transplant, you can say I am as resilient
as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP
laptop

Hi,
Sadly with HP's the only way to change that setting is to get someone with a
pair of eyes to walk through their instructions for changing that setting in
bios.  Other makes sometimes have the setting available under keyboard
settings in control panel or system but not HP sorry to say.
I wish I had better news but there you have it.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Miller
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop

Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



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as rubber, anything you throw at me I am going to bounce back from!



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[JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or IPhone 
6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

Hi, I had to to have sighted help as it took four hours for windows to update 
completely. Once done it was easy as as soon as you plugged it into the HDMI 
video you not only received video you had immediate sound. So to then run JAWS 
exe was easily done as once the exe was started the setup took over.

Hopeing to give this little unit a good testing this week and weekend.
robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of valiant8086
Sent: December 30, 2015 7:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Kangaroo computer and JAWS 17

Hi.

It shouldn't have much trouble with that, it does after all have typical 
tablet-like specs. Someone I know has one just a bit bigger than a USB 
flash drive that goes directly into the HDMI port, which he hasn't since 
he can't see the TV. The Cangaroo if I recall rightly is a pretty nice 
outfit that only just recently released. It has a dock I believe, does 
it deal fine with being removed from the dock while running and placed 
back on it again? Since if memory serves it has an internal battery, 
it'll keep on going while off the dock until you put it back again. I 
read that the out of box experience setup process for this device had 
been modified to work more like setting up a smart tv box would and thus 
is not typical windows setup. Is this so and if so, were you able to do 
it with Narrator even though?


Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable
On 12/30/2015 7:55 AM, East, Robin wrote:
> JAWS is now installed on this tiny computer (about size of I Phone 6 or 
> IPhone 6 plus. Fits in ones pocket. JAWS seems quite responsive.
> Robin East
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

[Robin Frost]

Hi sir,
I wasn't advocating for or against it one way or another.  I've run with it 
enabled and disabled at different times.

I don't have a horse in this race (smile).
I was just trying to clarify the point as one of the earlier posters made it 
seem as though one needed to turn off the use a password option in the mix 
with all of this and I didn't think that was correct. pardon my paraphrase 
of its actual control name. I wrote this on the fly and didn't stop long 
enough to get the exact wording.

I hope that makes more sense. Sorry for furthering confusion on the matter.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: jim

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 10:06 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Robin,
Again, there is no advantage to turning quick start off.
This is a benefit of using w-10.
For all practical purposes your computer is shut down, when choosing shut
down.
I have done this from the beginning every day when I am done using the
computer, I use shut down.
In the morning I just press the power button, in about 10 seconds or less,
my computer comes on with Jaws talking.
I then press the 4 digit pin, in a few seconds I am on the desktop.
So, I don't understand all the fuss about turning it off.
I am a big security minded person.
So, anything beyond my anti-virus, that helps protect my computer is
welcome.
Good luck, just my opinion.




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reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you
have to turn off requiring a password to disable this.  I didn't think you
needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate
erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that
as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set
to require one but I did disable fast startup myself.
thanks bunches for clarifying.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Al,
One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the
quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40
minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a
sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the
quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same
as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these
reasons. Have a great one, Al.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Kevin,

Why would someone want to disable this feature?

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

forgot to change subject line

press win key+x
from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab
to require a password on startup then press enter tab to
change settings that are currently unavailable press enter
tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow
down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start
this is a check box and it is checked by default press
spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes

-Original Message-
From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &
restore?

Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick
start?

On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote:

with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold

start.  the

computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick

start.  when

quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded

hence the

startup sound does not play.  this is why when you run

jaws in 40

minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the

computer

jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode

again you must

restart your computer.
there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I

will not

include this unless someone asks!

-Original Message- From: Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@

Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Sadly with HP's the only way to change that setting is to get someone with a 
pair of eyes to walk through their instructions for changing that setting in 
bios.  Other makes sometimes have the setting available under keyboard 
settings in control panel or system but not HP sorry to say.

I wish I had better news but there you have it.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 9:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting the applications key working on new HP laptop

Hi all,

Just purchased a new HP laptop with no applications key. I tried the
function key and the f10 for the applications but still nothing happened, in
fact nothing is happening. I want to change the way the function key works
anyway because it is easier to use JAWS when the function key is for the
volume and tracks and the f keys are for what they normally should be. Can
anyone give pointers as to why I can't get anything to happen with the f
keys?

Thanks for any help.

Kurt



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 Calendar day view

[East, Robin]

Thank you. We have had several exchanges with no avail so far.
But we will be persistent.
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Annette Carr
Sent: December 18, 2015 6:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 Calendar day view

I had this same problem with Outlook2010 and JAWS16 on my computer at work.
It took 3 calls to FS and finally hitting the jackpot with getting a FS
support tech that was willing to dive into the issue and try an hour's worth
or more of effort to resolve the issue.  I can't even begin to tell you all
that he did.  

Call FS.

HTH,
Annette



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of East, Robin
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 Calendar day view

Folks, I just updated to December JAWS 16 update. No change with the
calendar view. I cannot right or left arrow and get the next or previous day
events. Same using JAWS 17.

This works with JAWS 12 and Outlook 2010 but not with JAWS 16 or JAWS 17. We
have alerted Freedom  (John Carson) and they have not given any fixes to
date.

Anyone else having similar issues. This has been tried on several PC's now
in various locations. We are using Windows 7, JAWS 16 latest build, and
MSOffice 2010.

Robin East
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Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Forgive me for jumping in on this thread but Kevin's instructions say you 
have to turn off requiring a password to disable this.  I didn't think you 
needed to do that. can someone clarify as I wouldn't want to disseminate 
erroneous information but I truly didn't remember having to have done that 
as I'm still logging into windows with a pin and my machines are still set 
to require one but I did disable fast startup myself.

thanks bunches for clarifying.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 8:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Hi Al,
One reason is because if you are running a program in demo version, the
quick start will not set the timer back so you can use for another 40
minutes. Another reason, is the quick start is why people are not hearing a
sound when they shut their computer off or turn it back on. Also, the
quick start does not shut the computer totally down, so it is not the same
as a complete shut down. I do not like the quick start for all of these
reasons. Have a great one, Al.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Robbins

Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 7:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

Kevin,

Why would someone want to disable this feature?

Best,
Al

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 28, 2015 10:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] disable quick start in win 10

forgot to change subject line

press win key+x
from the context menu arrow to power options press enter tab
to require a password on startup then press enter tab to
change settings that are currently unavailable press enter
tab to require a password this menu are radio buttons arrow
down to don't require a password tab to enable quick start
this is a check box and it is checked by default press
spacebar to uncheck tab to ok tab to save changes

-Original Message-
From: Singing Sparrow
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &
restore?

Could you please tell us how to disable the windows 10 quick
start?

On 12/23/2015 2:27 PM, Kevin wrote:

with windows 10 you never start the computer from a cold

start.  the

computer is in hibernation mode which enables the quick

start.  when

quick starting the computer some drivers don't get loaded

hence the

startup sound does not play.  this is why when you run

jaws in 40

minute mode then shut down and the next time you start the

computer

jaws announces in order to use jaws in 40 minute mode

again you must

restart your computer.
there is a way to disable the windows 10 quick start but I

will not

include this unless someone asks!

-Original Message- From: Pinky
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &

restore?


Hi Neal,
If you are using W10 the only time my pc makes the windows

sound is on

restart. But from a cold start W10 does not make a sound.

Just to let

you know.
Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List

[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]

On Behalf Of Neil Towery
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 crashes; safe mode &

restore?


Hello Gang:

I have a windows 10 laptop that has been working fine for

almost two

months. Yesterday, right after jaws came up, I heard a

question

similar to:

"Hello, how do you like this picture. We will be sending

you more, et

cetra." Even though I do not sign in with a password, I

was able to

find the sign in button, and struck the space bar.

However, the

computer crashed. as in shut down. I thought it was

automatically

re-starting, for some unknown reason. Did a forced

re-start. Heard

similar info. Found sign in button.
Space bar. Computer shut down.

One of the times, I heard something about starting in the

locked mode.


Now, the computer starts normally, as it pertains to the

sound and

humming.
However, there is no sound. Not even the windows start up

sound. The

computer automatically shuts down in about a minute and

half, after I

press the start button.

Without sighted help how do I get it to start in safe

mode? Since

narrator has been so good in windows 10, will it allow me

to do a

system restore?

Sighted help might arrive, sometime tomorrow. But, I was

just

wondering if I could do it using jaws and narrator.

Thanks, and Merry Christmas. He is The Reason for the

season.


Neil



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[JAWS-Users] Outlook 2010 Calendar day view

[East, Robin]

Folks, I just updated to December JAWS 16 update. No change with the calendar 
view. I cannot right or left arrow and get the next or previous day events. 
Same using JAWS 17.

This works with JAWS 12 and Outlook 2010 but not with JAWS 16 or JAWS 17. We 
have alerted Freedom  (John Carson) and they have not given any fixes to date.

Anyone else having similar issues. This has been tried on several PC's now in 
various locations. We are using Windows 7, JAWS 16 latest build, and MSOffice 
2010.

Robin East
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[JAWS-Users] MSOffice Outlook 2010Scripts

[East, Robin]

I am usi8ng Windows 7 and Office 2010 With JAWS 16

Outlook does not follow the appointments. So in Day view and you right arrow to 
go from Current date of appointments to view next day appointments the right 
arrow works as if sighted you see the change. However, JAWS does not follow and 
you believe you are still on current day.

Anyone have scripts that have fixed this issue. This was reported to freedom 
but no result thus far.
Robin east

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MSOffice Outlook 2010Scripts

[East, Robin]

Thank you I will give this a go

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: December 15, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSOffice Outlook 2010Scripts

Hi,  you need to make a change in the date format under regional and language 
settings.  Short date m/d/  long format ,  dd, .  That should 
fix the problem.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSOffice Outlook 2010Scripts

I am usi8ng Windows 7 and Office 2010 With JAWS 16

Outlook does not follow the appointments. So in Day view and you right arrow to 
go from Current date of appointments to view next day appointments the right 
arrow works as if sighted you see the change. However, JAWS does not follow and 
you believe you are still on current day.

Anyone have scripts that have fixed this issue. This was reported to freedom 
but no result thus far.
Robin east

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Re: [JAWS-Users] MSOffice Outlook 2010Scripts

[East, Robin]

Tom, I tried this and it did not work. I tried on two PC's and still no go. Any 
other advice?
Jaws 16 and Office Outlook 2010

Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Bissett, Tom
Sent: December 15, 2015 2:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] MSOffice Outlook 2010Scripts

Hi,  you need to make a change in the date format under regional and language 
settings.  Short date m/d/  long format ,  dd, .  That should 
fix the problem.
Tom Bisset
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of East, Robin
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 3:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] MSOffice Outlook 2010Scripts

I am usi8ng Windows 7 and Office 2010 With JAWS 16

Outlook does not follow the appointments. So in Day view and you right arrow to 
go from Current date of appointments to view next day appointments the right 
arrow works as if sighted you see the change. However, JAWS does not follow and 
you believe you are still on current day.

Anyone have scripts that have fixed this issue. This was reported to freedom 
but no result thus far.
Robin east

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016, a temporary work around found

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Not sure if it'll change anything regarding JFW working any better but I'm 
sure glad to at least have a means of being able to interact with it while 
we wait.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Dave Carlson

Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 2:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog 
inMicrosoftoffice2016, a temporary work around found


Robin,

Good input, and thanks for the update.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer

- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Frost" <robin...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in
Microsoftoffice2016, a temporary work around found


Hi,
Perhaps it’s bad internet form to reply to one’s own post but I thought I
would as I’ve just discovered much to my great delight that while JFW 17
doesn’t read the to and from fields in the dialog for printing envelopes in
Microsoft Office 2016 Microsoft Narrator does perform flawlessly. So anyone
looking for a work-around in the meantime might be as happy as I am to
discover that Narrator is a help in this situation.
Here’s hoping that perhaps one day sooner rather than later JFW can be made
to work better in this dialog once again as it did in jfw and office
versions past.
I hope that helps someone.
Robin


From: Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016, a temporary work around found

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps it’s bad internet form to reply to one’s own post but I thought I would 
as I’ve just discovered much to my great delight that while JFW 17 doesn’t read 
the to and from fields in the dialog for printing envelopes in Microsoft Office 
2016 Microsoft Narrator does perform flawlessly. So anyone looking for a 
work-around in the meantime might be as happy as I am to discover that Narrator 
is a help in this situation.
Here’s hoping that perhaps one day sooner rather than later JFW can be made to 
work better in this dialog once again as it did in jfw and office versions 
past. 
I hope that helps someone.
Robin


From: Robin Frost 
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 4:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016 and 
I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t 
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this 
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in 
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Looks like i found a bug in JAWS.

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not sure I understand your message based on its current syntax.
However by me with number translation set to some and dollars checked it 
when seeing the value as you presented it is reading it at ten dollars and 
twenty five cents as it ought.

I hope that helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:16 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Looks like i found a bug in JAWS.

Hi to all.
I’musing the latest copy of jaws with win 10.
I’m playing a roleplaying game that envolves money.
I have dollars checked.
But even when I have for example.
$10.25.
The point two five.
Please let me know if he reads correctly for the rest of you as tne dollars 
and twenty five cents.

How can we fix thisanoying problem?
Thanks.above example read for the ten
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[JAWS-Users] FSOCR Executible File

[East, Robin]

Folks, I just found out today that the FSOCR executable file that you need for 
the "OCR" portion of JAWS is a different file for each version of JAWS. Only 
the "size" of the file changes. The name stays the same. So please ensure when 
you down load JAWS you also download the FSOCR file that goes with your JAWS 
version. For some reason Freedom Scientific is not changing the name or version 
number so the only way to tell is by the size of the executable file. And, no I 
do not know if the latest file of the same name is backward compatible with 
previous versions.


Maybe in the future they will address this.
Robin East
Adaptive Technology Program
Canada revenue Agency

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[JAWS-Users] Google'sSheets

[Robin]

Is JAWS either Friendly OR Accessible with Google'sSheets, which I 
presume is its Alternative to Microsoft'sPowerPoint? If so, can 
SomeOne ON ThisList provide me with various KeyStroke Commands and/or 
Resources to EfficientlyNavigateIt?


YourAssistance is GreatlyAppreciated!


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Begging your pardon I do not understand what you're asserting.  I don't use 
outlook as my email program. That which I was speaking about is happening 
inside of Microsoft Word when one is readying to print an addressed 
envelope. I hope that clarifies.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: TheHangMan

Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFWreading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


Hi,
I am using office 2013, J16 and I do not have that problem.I been trying to 
follow this tread.

Mines reads everything, Too field from, and reply.

I believe your problem is in your alt menu using outlook,
Give MSA a buzz,

Have a good day,
Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


That's a shame as it used to work flawlessly in version 2010 of office (sad
face).
Robin

-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft
office2016

I had noticed this issue in 2013 and when I was taking an FS webinar on Word
Dan Clark noted it to the class that JAWS did not read in the Adressee or
Return Address boxes and blamed it on Microsoft.
I use that function a good bit and it for sure is passed onto 2016.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better
in this instance than Jaws is.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start
again with the typo corrected FROWN
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft
office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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[JAWS-Users] Issues using Outlook and latest JAWS JAWS 16 build and JAWS 17

[East, Robin]

Folks in the calendar in Outlook one cannot get off the current date. So for 
example if you are looking at December 8 and move to December 9 the date still 
says December 8. So you really do not know what date you are looking at for 
appointments. The same for both JAWS 16 and JAWS 17.8

This using the latest Microsoft Exchange. Any help or ideas.

Using Office 2010 and Windows 7

Robin east
Canada revenue Agency
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Hot key to speak highlighted text?

[Robin]

As I recall, the KeyStroke to Announce what is Selected IS:

Shift+Insert+DownArrow
At 07:56 AM 12/8/2015, you wrote:

Hi Group.

Is there a JAWS hot key to have JAWS read text that I have highlighted?



Ed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen 
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just 
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better 
in this instance than Jaws is.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start 
again with the typo corrected FROWN

George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”


George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft 
office2016


Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016 
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t 
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this 
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in 
this dialog area?

thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

That's a shame as it used to work flawlessly in version 2010 of office (sad 
face).

Robin

-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 7:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading adialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


I had noticed this issue in 2013 and when I was taking an FS webinar on Word 
Dan Clark noted it to the class that JAWS did not read in the Adressee or 
Return Address boxes and blamed it on Microsoft.

I use that function a good bit and it for sure is passed onto 2016.
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for 
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”


George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Robin Frost

Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 4:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft 
office2016


Hi,
So are you saying that this is an issue with Microsoft's design not screen
reader functionality then?
As System Access performs flawlessly in this dialog currently. I'm just
curious then if it is a Microsoft short coming then why it is working better
in this instance than Jaws is.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: George Martinez CPA

Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 5:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog inMicrosoft
office2016

Robyn,
I am using Win 7 Pro, with JAWS 17, and Office 2016.
I have that issue and also had the same in 2013.
It is just the way Bill & his boys made those fields.
The only way to correct is highlight & delete it all & retype or just start
again with the typo corrected FROWN
George


“If I continue to do the same things I have always done and am believing for
change in my life… That is a form of “insanity!”

George A Martinez CPA, PC
12231 North 50th Avenue
Glendale, AZ 85304-2215
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589
Email george.martinez...@cox.net





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Robin Frost
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 2:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft
office2016

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016
and I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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[JAWS-Users] Query about JFW reading a dialog in Microsoft office2016

[Robin Frost]

Hi Everyone,
I’m running JFW version 17 under windows 10 in conjunction with office 2016 and 
I’m finding that in the print envelopes dialog in Microsoft Word JFW isn’t 
reading the to and from address areas at all. Can anyone else reproduce this 
behavior; or has anyone found any work arounds to improve the performance in 
this dialog area?
thanks in advance.
Robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] no attachment message in WLM

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I haven't found a setting that governs this and can report the same in most 
current version of windows live mail under windows 10 using JFW 17. Do join 
in the reporting fun and let Freedom Scientific perhaps it'll garner the 
poor mail client some needed attention (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 10:54 AM
To: Jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] no attachment message in WLM

Running Jaws V17.0.1214, Win 10 and WLM 12. If message has attachment jaws 
does not say “attachment.  Also have Jaws 17 on Win 7 pc and older version 
of WLM, 2007 I think. Attachment is identified there. Is there a setting 
that controls this?  Tom

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I agree it's working for me too here. And I'm not sure I understand the 
meaning of the dictionary doesn't work. I've instructed JFW to pronounce a 
word correctly when it didn't know how in the default dictionary and had no 
problem saving and maintaining the results. If this refers to something else 
I apologize in advance.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 8:53 AM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Phonetic spelling works correctly for me. Running Win 10 and latest Jaws.
Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:13 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

   Hi to all.
Has anyone else noticed the following with j 17 with win10?
1. the dictionary will not work.
2. When you tap your five key on the calculator keypad to do fanatic
spelling, it works in the following way.
You tap your five key on the first letter and it will spell fanatically for
you.
but right arrow to  the next letter.
That next letter is not fanatically spelled.
You have to tap your five key once again.
Any one know if we can fix these problems?
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Perhaps a clean uninstall and reinstall or at the very least a run of the 
installer file to repair might do the trick. Just a thought short of that 
perhaps a call to FS for help.
I wish you luck finding a solution it certainly sounds as though something 
is amiss there.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Hi back you Robin.
Everytime I bring up the dictionary I receive the following error message:
jdictionMFC application has stopped working a problem caused the program to
stopped working correctly.
Windows will close and notify you if a solution is avilible.
So, that is what I  am getting when I try to use thedictionary.
I did solve my fanatic spellingproblem though.
Any thoughts on why the dicitonary will not work?
Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Hi,
I agree it's working for me too here. And I'm not sure I understand the
meaning of the dictionary doesn't work. I've instructed JFW to pronounce a
word correctly when it didn't know how in the default dictionary and had no
problem saving and maintaining the results. If this refers to something else
I apologize in advance.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 8:53 AM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

Phonetic spelling works correctly for me. Running Win 10 and latest Jaws.
Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Ron Kolesar

Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 9:13 PM
To: JAWS Mailing List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Found two problems with jaws 17.;

   Hi to all.
Has anyone else noticed the following with j 17 with win10?
1. the dictionary will not work.
2. When you tap your five key on the calculator keypad to do fanatic
spelling, it works in the following way.
You tap your five key on the first letter and it will spell fanatically for
you.
but right arrow to  the next letter.
That next letter is not fanatically spelled.
You have to tap your five key once again.
Any one know if we can fix these problems?
Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3 converter

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
when last I looked which was last week it was right on the same page as the 
regular download just below it with the classic designation.
while the current non-classic version is more accessible than the one that 
preceded it you still can't access options which limits a lot of 
functionality so for now the classic version is still the best bet in my 
view. Note: once installed the classic version will sadly keep alerting you 
at each launch that there's an update but that doesn't pertain to itself.  I 
contacted them to see if they could make it so it only alerts users to 
updates for the classic version but have heard nothing back as of yet.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2015 12:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3 converter

does anyone know the link to download the version that is screen reader 
compatible
I downloaded before and it wasn’t compatible   I know dvdvideosoft offers a 
classic version but where can I download it?

Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I've noticed that when encountering some of these buttons or links sometimes 
turning off virtual cursor temporarily in jfw enables them to be executed.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Philip Hall

Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

Hi.
I have the same problem with my banking website.
I sometimes have to switch browsers, and sometimes I have to change screen
readers in the middle of what I am doing to click a button, or link.
I think the website is just poorly coded not taking accessibility into
account.

There is a lawyer in California that is an expert in getting many of these
sites to make their websites accessible.
She made Bank of America change their website to make it more accessible,
and she just made humana make their prescription labels accessible. She also
make CVS do the same thing.

Phil



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Behalf Of joanne
Sent: Friday, November 27, 2015 8:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] on some websites I can't activate buttons

On some websites I run across buttons I can't click on with space or enter.
I try routing cursors, turning off virtual cursor, left clicking, just about
everything I can think of but the keystroke won't work to get me to the next
page.  I see it a lot on banking sites and on submit or continue buttons.
Due to the configuration of some newer websites with maybe too many
graphics--just making a guess--is there just no way to be able to use
buttons and therefore the inability to complete tasks on these sites without
sighted help?  I truly hope there's an answer and that it's not impossible
to use these sites independently.

Thanks.

Joanne
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Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
With all due respect I can't speak authoritatively as I don't work for them 
but I can say that when I renewed just a few weeks ago I was specifically 
told that my SMA's were for versions 18 and 19 specifically. So I'd be 
careful not to assume that they can be used for any future version 
regardless of number. For if that were so people wouldn't have to pay for 
multiple upgrades in order to catch up if they were a few versions behind.

Just a thought.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike

Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2015 7:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

I  have seen nothing saying that one has to upgrade everytime that a new
version of Jaws is released. If you have
2 SMA's remaining, and you choose not to upgrade to 18, then you will still
have 2 SMA's when versions 19 and 20 are released. I just used my last SMA
to upgrade to 17, and I did renew my SMA's, but the FS salesperson did not
state that they were for Jaws 18 and 19, nor did the sales receipt that I
received via mail a few days later

Mike
mike@comcast.net


-Original Message- 
From: Neil Towery

Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 6:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

I will be very interested in what FS tells you. So, please put something in
your subject line about SMA and upgrades. I do not want to miss the answer.
Thanks. Neil


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 11:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

um, when I bought jaws 11 I FS gave me 3 SMAs and I did not use them until
15 came out.  I used one to authorize 15 then when 16 came out I used
another!  so I don't understand what your saying.  I'll contact FS to
confirm what you say!

-Original Message-
From: Londa Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

If you have one upgrade remaining, that's the sma. You have to use it for
17. If you try and use it for 18, you won't be authorized. It will know that
you've tried to skip, and it won't let you. I would encourage you to call FS
to verify what I'm saying to you. I just hate to see you waste a perfectly
good upgrade thinking that you can use it later when you can't.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

well when I go to my help menu in jaws it still says 1 remote upgrade
remaining.  I'm not sure if this is the SMA everyone speaks of, I don't even
know what a SMA is all I know is I can upgrade one more time!

-Original Message-
From: Londa Peterson
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

Hi Kevin,
Unfortunately,, as far as I know you can't save SMA's. If you don't install
17, you still can't get 18 if you only have one SMA left. You've simply
wasted your SMA by not installing 17. Unless FS has changed something
recently that is.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] november windows 10 update

the first major windows 10  update fixed the crashing that was happening
with jaws don’t ask how, but I am not experiencing jaws crashes anymore.
this is good because I won’t need to use a SMA to upgrade jaws, 16 latest is
good enough!
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws activating wrong link why?

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I can confirm this behavior.  It's happened a few times to me recently on 
Amazon.com.  I was on the your orders link. It verbalized your orders but 
somehow after entering on what verbalized as your orders I ended up on a 
page for sellers on amazon.  thank goodness for alt left arrow.  I could 
reproduce this at will so I think I can safely say it wasn't user error in 
this case.
As for its cause or solution such still escapes me but I can indeed confirm 
the behavior you report.
I know it isn't a solution but sometimes knowing that an anomaly isn't 
unique to you and your set up can bring a bit of solace.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 12:31 AM
To: 'jaws-users'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws activating wrong link why?

I'm not sure if it's after the windows 10 update, or after I made changes in
the quick setting which I don't remember what the changes were; however,
here is the skinny.



Let's say there are two links I am passing by, about and contact us.  I
click contact us and the about page opens.

The only way I can get the right link to launch is listing the links, tab to
move to link, then activate link.  That is to much just to read a page lol,
thoughts?

Windows 10, jaws 16 and IE 11.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to have JAWSrepeatits last/previous message?

[Robin]

I don't know if this KeyStrokeCommand is what you 
are Looking4, but  QuitePossibly


InsertKey + UpArrowKey
or
InsertKey + NumPad#5Key
or
InsertKey + NumPad#2Key
or
ALT + UpArrowKey

These various KeyStrokeCommands AsIUnderStandIt, 
Read the CurrentLine, CurrentSentence, or CurrentCharacter

At 09:46 AM 11/14/2015, you wrote:
Janie, Nope. Insert+Tab just reads the same 
current focus, and if there was a message spoken 
about anything else, Insert+Tab will not 
retrieve it. Only way with more recent versions 
of JAWS is with Insert+Spacebar, then the letter 
H to bring up a history of the last 50 things 
JAWS said. Dave Carlson Oregonian, woodworker, 
Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original 
Message - From: "Janie Degenshein" 
 To: 
 Sent: Saturday, 
November 14, 2015 07:35 AM Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users] Is there a way to have 
JAWSrepeatits last/previous message? That reads 
all but insert tab reads just what you last 
heard only woo hoo -Original Message- 
From: Jorge Rivas Sent: Saturday, November 14, 
2015 10:28 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Is there a way to have 
JAWS repeatits last/previous message? Hi, I been 
using insert plus B, Before this history stuff. 
Jorge -Original Message- From: 
JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of George Martinez CPA Sent: Saturday, 
November 14, 2015 10:19 AM To: 
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: 
[JAWS-Users] Is there a way to have JAWS repeat 
its last/previous message? JAWS key + space bar 
then type H for History “If I continue to do 
the same things I have always done and am 
believing for change in my life… That is a form 
oof “insanity!” George A Martinez CPA, PC 
12231 North 50th Avenue Glendale, AZ 85304-2215 
Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206.666.2589 Email 
george.martinez...@cox.net -Original 
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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On Behalf Of Tim Ford Sent: Saturday, November 
14, 2015 7:58 AM To: 
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: 
[JAWS-Users] Is there a way to have JAWS repeat 
its last/previous message? HI All, Is there a 
way to have JAWS repeat whatever it last 
said?  At times the JAWS message goes by without 
my recalling in detail what it said.  Is there 
any log of that and can it be accessed? Tim Ford 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I don't think it's going away just not being updated readily any more.  It's 
still available for download and install so at least for now it in its 
current form is available and will work.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

What? Do you mean that I am doing all of this work to learn WLM and all
ready it is going away? hmmm,,,I am always one step behind.  Thanks for your
help.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 5:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

wlm is at version 16 something which is 2012 don't expect it to be upgraded
because ms has a new email client which is not accessible with jaws.
all the info may be there in your messages but it may be in 2 line message
view.
here's how to change it so jaws can read it to change the view of your
message display in windows live mail press alt to bring up the ribbon menu
navigate to the view ribbon with the right arrow key when on the view ribbon
press the down arrow select a new view for your messages press enter you
will be presented with four message views select the third rule (show all
messages) tab to apply press spacebar when prompted select all folders press
enter choose the view ribbon again press down navigate by pressing the
leftor right  arrow key to the message drop down press enter press the down
arrow til you get to one line message view make sure one line message view
is checked if not press spacebar to check it the email messages should now
be displayed sender, subject, date ...
-Original Message-
From: LeDon
Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 1:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Sorry, I need to change the subject. When looking at my in box in WLM jaws
speaks only the subject of the emails in the in box. I would like for jaws
to tell me who the email is from, the subject, and the date the email was
sent.

My wife tells me that all that information is showing on the monitor. But
Jaws does not speak it. How do I get jaws to speak all of that information
when I am in the inbox?

One more thing, what is the latest revision of windows live mail? Thank you,





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi,

This onlky work with win 8 and higher.  If it is win 7 you would have to
press win u then ault n to get speech.

Matthew

On 11/7/2015 9:58 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Can't you skip the ease of access and just use the windows key enter
to fire up the windows narrator.
I know you said Alt n to fire up narraotr.
But windows key enter also will fire up narrator.
If we can fire up narrator, why go to the ease of access and then go
to narrator?
Can't we elimate the middle man and use just the narrator with a new
computer for the first time?
I hopefully will have a new computer myself here around thanks giving
and or Christmas.
So thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
cane paws down any day of the week."
-Original Message- From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi Wayne,
When you boot the computer, wait a minute or two, to allow the system
too load everything, then press the Windows key + the Letter U,  to
open the "Ease of Access Center".
Next, press Alt + the letter N, to start Narrator.
Be patient, Narrator may take a few seconds to start talking.
From this point, you should be able to navigate the pre-setup screens
using the tab key and arrow keys.
Once you have completed this process, Windows should load the desktop,
at which time you can install Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - From: "wayne smith"
<waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer


My current laptop is malfunctioning and I purchased a new HP laptop.
I chose one that uses Windows 7 because I have MS Office 2007 and
Outlook 2007 and they serve my needs.  I am charging the computer now.
When I turn it on for the first time it will have no speech capability
so I don't know if it will show instructions or updates on the screen.
I will load my JAWS
15 SMA
CD and run it.  Are there any traps or problems anybody has
experienced in starting their laptop for the first

Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not LeDon but as for the problem of jfw not reporting conversations as 
expanded or collapsed in live mail as efficiently as NVDA does I can say 
that maximizing the window sadly had no impact on that one.
thanks for your instructions to LeDon's issue as they were well composed 
concise and informative and were exactly what I couldn't remember so thanks 
for the save for us all (smiles).


Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 8:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Hi Ledon,

Another thing to check is to make sure the screen is maximized
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers, next year anyways!

- Original Message - 
From: Robin Frost

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer


Hi,
I wish I could remember what I did to fix that as I encountered that just
recently myself.  I did turn off the reading pane but I'm not sure if that
setting was what addressed it.
You could also check under view to see which columns are displaying.
On a related note I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered or could
reproduce an issue where jfw refused to announce the state of conversation
threads in windows live mail. I.E. whether they're expanded or collapsed.
I've seen this both in jfw 16 and 17 under windows 7 and 10 and no matter
what I do I can't get it to report this consistently.
NVDA however reports it flawlessly no labeling of graphics necessary. It
used to be that if you set graphics to all in live mail and labeled the
pertinent graphic it'd then verbalize but now even that isn't seeming to
work by me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks LeDon for letting
me dovetail on your question.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Sorry, I need to change the subject. When looking at my in box in WLM jaws
speaks only the subject of the emails in the in box. I would like for jaws
to tell me who the email is from, the subject, and the date the email was
sent.

My wife tells me that all that information is showing on the monitor. But
Jaws does not speak it. How do I get jaws to speak all of that information
when I am in the inbox?

One more thing, what is the latest revision of windows live mail? Thank you,





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi,

This onlky work with win 8 and higher.  If it is win 7 you would have to
press win u then ault n to get speech.

Matthew

On 11/7/2015 9:58 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Can't you skip the ease of access and just use the windows key enter
to fire up the windows narrator.
I know you said Alt n to fire up narraotr.
But windows key enter also will fire up narrator.
If we can fire up narrator, why go to the ease of access and then go
to narrator?
Can't we elimate the middle man and use just the narrator with a new
computer for the first time?
I hopefully will have a new computer myself here around thanks giving
and or Christmas.
So thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
cane paws down any day of the week."
-Original Message- From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi Wayne,
When you boot the computer, wait a minute or two, to allow the system
too load everything, then press the Windows key + the Letter U,  to
open the "Ease of Access Center".
Next, press Alt + the letter N, to start Narrator.
Be patient, Narrator may take a few seconds to start talking.
From this point, you should be able to navigate the pre-setup screens
using the tab key and arrow keys.
Once you have completed this process, Windows should load the desktop,
at which time you can install Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - From: "wayne smith"
<waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer


My current laptop is malfunctioning and I purchased a new HP laptop.
I chose one that uses Windows 7 because I have MS Office 2007 and
Outlook 2007 and they serve my needs.  I am charging the computer now.
When I turn it on for the first time it will have no speech capability
so I don't know if it will show instructions or updates on the screen.
I will load my JAWS
15 SMA
CD and run it.  Are there any traps or probl

Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I wish I could remember what I did to fix that as I encountered that just 
recently myself.  I did turn off the reading pane but I'm not sure if that 
setting was what addressed it.

You could also check under view to see which columns are displaying.
On a related note I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered or could 
reproduce an issue where jfw refused to announce the state of conversation 
threads in windows live mail. I.E. whether they're expanded or collapsed. 
I've seen this both in jfw 16 and 17 under windows 7 and 10 and no matter 
what I do I can't get it to report this consistently.
NVDA however reports it flawlessly no labeling of graphics necessary. It 
used to be that if you set graphics to all in live mail and labeled the 
pertinent graphic it'd then verbalize but now even that isn't seeming to 
work by me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks LeDon for letting 
me dovetail on your question.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 4:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM it was RE: JAWS and a new computer

Sorry, I need to change the subject. When looking at my in box in WLM jaws
speaks only the subject of the emails in the in box. I would like for jaws
to tell me who the email is from, the subject, and the date the email was
sent.

My wife tells me that all that information is showing on the monitor. But
Jaws does not speak it. How do I get jaws to speak all of that information
when I am in the inbox?

One more thing, what is the latest revision of windows live mail? Thank you,





-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Dyer
Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi,

This onlky work with win 8 and higher.  If it is win 7 you would have to
press win u then ault n to get speech.

Matthew

On 11/7/2015 9:58 PM, Ron Kolesar wrote:

Can't you skip the ease of access and just use the windows key enter
to fire up the windows narrator.
I know you said Alt n to fire up narraotr.
But windows key enter also will fire up narrator.
If we can fire up narrator, why go to the ease of access and then go
to narrator?
Can't we elimate the middle man and use just the narrator with a new
computer for the first time?
I hopefully will have a new computer myself here around thanks giving
and or Christmas.
So thanks.



Ron and current Leader Dog boz who states "that a service dog beats a
cane paws down any day of the week."
-Original Message- From: Rick Justice
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer

Hi Wayne,
When you boot the computer, wait a minute or two, to allow the system
too load everything, then press the Windows key + the Letter U,  to
open the "Ease of Access Center".
Next, press Alt + the letter N, to start Narrator.
Be patient, Narrator may take a few seconds to start talking.
From this point, you should be able to navigate the pre-setup screens
using the tab key and arrow keys.
Once you have completed this process, Windows should load the desktop,
at which time you can install Jaws.

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - From: "wayne smith"
<waynesoundsm...@earthlink.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:47 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and a new computer


My current laptop is malfunctioning and I purchased a new HP laptop.
I chose one that uses Windows 7 because I have MS Office 2007 and
Outlook 2007 and they serve my needs.  I am charging the computer now.
When I turn it on for the first time it will have no speech capability
so I don't know if it will show instructions or updates on the screen.
I will load my JAWS
15 SMA
CD and run it.  Are there any traps or problems anybody has
experienced in starting their laptop for the first time?  Would it be
a good idea to have sighted help for that initial start?

Any wisdom will be appreciated.



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
You are correct version 4.0 of this program has become inaccessible. However 
the older classic version can still be used with screen reader software. 
The maker of this program has been alerted to the problem and claim that 
forth coming program updates will remedy this break in accessibility.

the classic version can be located at:
quoting DVD VideoSoft from twitter:

"You may use the classic version for now"
 http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-to-MP3-Converter.htm 
It's the second button.


I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

I tried it when it opens jaws announces nothing, there is just a white 
window on my desktop.

switching to jaws cursor I get the same thing
I can’t tab or anything
I’m running windows 10 and jaws 16 latest
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Once the program's own installer launches after having started the process 
with revo close the window from the program itself leaving revo open and it 
should allow you to proceed.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

how do I uninstall the one I installed, I tried using revo and it just
stalled

-Original Message- 
From: Robin Frost

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 8:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

Hi,
You are correct version 4.0 of this program has become inaccessible. However
the older classic version can still be used with screen reader software.
The maker of this program has been alerted to the problem and claim that
forth coming program updates will remedy this break in accessibility.
the classic version can be located at:
quoting DVD VideoSoft from twitter:

"You may use the classic version for now"
 http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-YouTube-to-MP3-Converter.htm
It's the second button.

I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvdvideosoft free youtube to mp3

I tried it when it opens jaws announces nothing, there is just a white
window on my desktop.
switching to jaws cursor I get the same thing
I can’t tab or anything
I’m running windows 10 and jaws 16 latest
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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[JAWS-Users] Application, regions, Headings, lists

[East, Robin]

Folks, when first opening up a web page and JAWS tells me I have 1 application, 
several regions, several headings, and several links I know how to jump to the 
regions, links, and headings. However, is there a keystroke to jump to the 
application JAWS shows as being on a web page?
robin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] start up wizard restarts

[East, Robin]

I have had the same experience and thought it was normal if it was the first 
time that "user" logged on.
Robin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mario
Sent: September 10, 2015 8:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] start up wizard restarts

I'm having a problem where the JAWS startup wizard restarts every time I 
login as a different user in windows. is this normal? or what setting 
needs to be changed to stop this from happening?

I'm trying to set it up where a standard user is automatically logged 
in, but it's a little more involved, and  I don't know enough to pull 
this off. since this issue might be considered off topic (and I 
apologize if it is), I'd appreciate it if someone who knows about 
setting up multiple accounts, please email me off list? I have some 
questions; I really could use the help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS16 & Setting Both Characters - DeFaultSetting

[Robin]

Thanx it appears to have worked ... MuchAppreciated!
At 01:49 PM 9/6/2015, you wrote:

Hi Robin,

Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B. Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2, to open the, Jaws Manager, arrow down,
Settings Center, & press enter.
With the Settings Center open press, control, shift , + D, to open the
Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Users, & right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Typing Echo, & press the spacebar until you hear,
Characters & Words.  Pressing the spacebar rotates you through the 4
options.
4. Tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, press enter to save your
changes & close the Settings Center.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Robin
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 11:11 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS16 & Setting Both Characters -
DeFaultSetting


How do you Change TheDefaultSettings IN JAWS16 so it will Read
BothCharacters?

I already know how to do this using the Insert(JAWS) Key Plus (+)
Number2  OnTheQuerty KeyBoard, but I'm LookingFor TheOtherWay to
MakeIt Permanent

Thanx


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